Re: [PD] Latest Pd-extended experiences
hi. i stripped the zexy from the subject-line. David Powers wrote: Bad news: BUT - there are some SERIOUS problems with Gem, and the entire patch is now broken!!! I'm trying to understand more of the problems, but what I see right now, is something wrong with pix_buffer, and pix_freeframe, and something with the fonts, in particular. There's an error with rotateXYZ but I don't think that's important. Any suggestions??? This is on WinXp, pd-extended RC 1. let's have a look. Here is the output when I first load my patch: [tabdump] part of zexy-2.1 (compiled: Apr 14 2007) Copyright (l) 1999-2006 IOhannes m zmölnig, forum::für::umläute IEM expr, expr~, fexpr~ version 0.4 under GNU General Public License MAN::resetState entered GEM: loaded image: C:/vid/gem-vj/crab.jpg [tabset] part of zexy-2.1 (compiled: Apr 14 2007) Copyright (l) 1999-2006 IOhannes m zmölnig, forum::für::umläute IEM pix_film:: directshow support handle 0AAF0D98 filmQT created pix_film:: quicktime support handle 1AAF0F48 handle 212FCA98 handle 312FCB38 handle 412FCBD0 handle 512FCC70 handle 612FCD18 pix_buffer_read: couldn't find pix_buffer '1115-buff' [pix_buffer]: there is a minor annoyance, where [pix_buffer_read] (and [pix_buffer_write]) do a check for an existing [pix_buffer] at creation time (which is a bad time to check, since the corresponding [pix_buffer] might be yet non-existant). usually you can safely ignore this warning. (however, i was not able to detect any other problems from your error logs, which does not mean that there are none). GEM: loaded images: C:/vid/gem-vj/img/aliens1/ .jpg from 0 to 18 skipping 1 [urn] part of zexy-2.1 (compiled: Apr 14 2007) Copyright (l) 1999-2006 IOhannes m zmölnig, forum::für::umläute IEM img-loadhack ... couldn't create handle 012FE8F0 filmQT created handle 112FE9E8 handle 212FEAA0 handle 312FEB40 handle 412FEBD8 handle 512FEC78 handle 612FED20 pix_buffer_read: couldn't find pix_buffer '1121-buff' GEM: loaded images: C:/vid/gem-vj/img/mad/ .jpg from 0 to 13 skipping 1 trying to load C:/vid/gem-vj/freeframe/PeteSlide C:\\vid\\gem-vj\\freeframe\\PeteSlide: couldn't load error: GemException: couldn't load FreeFrame-plugin pix_freeframe freeframe/PeteSlide ... couldn't create just to make sure: you DO have a PeteSlide.dll in C:/vid/gem-vj/freeframe/? and Gem has been able to load this dll in previous incarnations? afaik, Gem for w32 is still just directly pulled from gem.iem.at (instead of compiled on the autobuild farm); this might still be a problem with compiler versions and the like... trying to load C:/vid/gem-vj/freeframe/PeteGaussianBlur C:\\vid\\gem-vj\\freeframe\\PeteGaussianBlur: couldn't load error: GemException: couldn't load FreeFrame-plugin pix_freeframe freeframe/PeteGaussianBlur ... couldn't create handle 012FC708 filmQT created handle 112FC800 handle 212FC8B8 handle 312FC958 handle 412FA350 handle 512FA3F0 handle 612FA498 pix_buffer_read: couldn't find pix_buffer '1141-buff' GEM: loaded images: C:/vid/gem-vj/img/fly/ .jpg from 0 to 14 skipping 1 GEM: loaded images: C:/vid/gem-vj/img/universe/ .jpg from 0 to 12 skipping 1 error: GEM: rotateXYZ: needs 0 or 3 arguments error: GEM: rotateXYZ: needs 0 or 3 arguments error: GEM: rotateXYZ: needs 0 or 3 arguments error: GEM: rotateXYZ: needs 0 or 3 arguments this has always been like this: [rotateXYZ] either needs no or exactly 3 arguments; try to find out why your patch gives another number of arguments to this object. [demultiplex] part of zexy-2.1 (compiled: Apr 14 2007) Copyright (l) 1999-2006 IOhannes m zmölnig, forum::für::umläute IEM error: GEMtext: unable to open font C:/vid/gem-vj/over/vera.ttf Gem's default font has changed from arial.ttf to vera.ttf for legal reasons. just copy your old C:/vid/gem-vj/over/arial.ttf to C:/vid/gem-vj/over/vera.ttf mfga.sdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] function-to-block dictionary in pd-extended [was: Re: PD i education]
Sounds great! I started to think about how it could be done. One simple start would be to include the list of objects according to function that is found in core-pd. However, I think it would be better to put in in the help menu rather than then right-clicking on the canvas. This would encourage newbies to use the standard pd blocks to start with. A general function-to-block dictionary is more complicated since there seems to be something like 1000 help files in the doc section... One possibility could be to put a text label in each help file, for example: ;;;pd-extended classification;;;category: audio;function: filter, subfunction: bandpass;;; This is just an example. It could be done in a number of ways e.g. just give keywords. The audio/control classification is of course already evident from the tilde sign.This could be complemented with a short one-liner: ;;;description: A 2-pole bandpass filter;;; Then this would be divided in thee tasks: 1. agree on the list of categories and functions 2. label the help files ( I guess that it would be easy for everyone to do in the CVS?) 3. Implement sorting according to function in the browser. (If the browser search the doc section a new lib would be included automatically.) The first step can be done on this list or in the pd doc group. The second step can easily be distributed. I could spend some time with it and I think I could mobilize more people at the department as well. The last step depends mostly on hans so it would be great to hear your opinion about it. /Anders marius schebella wrote: Three, I would like to help build such a database. marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I sometimes forget even the names of the objects that I have written, so I would use the dictionary for sure. So you are not alone in the desire for a dictionary, there is at least two of us ;) .hc On May 30, 2007, at 7:51 AM, Anders Friberg wrote: This is a quite extreme viewpoint. Translate that to language learning, for example a German learning English. It implies that using a dictionary from German to English is forbidden and the only available dictionary is from English to German. Then assume that the German guy have some basic understanding of the English language but forgot one word... This is exactly my own case. Maybe I am away from pd for a year (God forbid!). Then most of my fluency will fade away and a dictionary would be extremely helpful. I tend to remember functionality but not the exact block name. Am I alone? We also try to avoid any fancy stuff in the basic tutorials but we use pd-extended ourselfs and we provide ready-made patches using pd-extended that the students can interface to. /Anders -- - Anders Friberg Associate Professor Speech, Music and Hearing, KTH Lindstedtsvägen 24 S-100 44 Stockholm http://www.speech.kth.se/~andersfr/ work: +46 8 7907876 mobile: +46 70 7746287 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Try my Digital Waveguide Synthesis patches!
Hallo, Kim Taylor hat gesagt: // Kim Taylor wrote: I've found this board very useful while doing my university project, I thought I'd show you what I've done with Pd. Any feedback at all would be really useful at this stage in the project. It'd also be nice to get some comments from you Pd guru's on how I've put it together. Just had a quick look, impressive work you did there. More comments later, but there is one big technical problem for everyone not on Windows as you: Your abstractions are named with mixed upper/lowercase letters and in your patches you even use different spelling for the same patch sometimes, like [dline-term] and [dline-Term] while the actual object is called dline-TERM.pd. Pd *is* case-sensitive so you should decide what names to use. I would recommend to stick with all lowercase names. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Try my Digital Waveguide Synthesis patches!
Hallo, Kim Taylor hat gesagt: // Kim Taylor wrote: I've found this board very useful while doing my university project, I thought I'd show you what I've done with Pd. Any feedback at all would be really useful at this stage in the project. It'd also be nice to get some comments from you Pd guru's on how I've put it together. See attachment, or failing that http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~kt503/3yp/KimsWaveguides.zip Another thing: Something really strange is happening in excitation.pd: Opening it, even with -noloadbang, completely freaks out my Pd and makes it grind to a complete halt for like 20 seconds. The scollbar to the right is showing a huge patch area, but there doesn't seem to be anything outside the visible area. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Try my Digital Waveguide Synthesis patches!
Frank Barknecht wrote: See attachment, or failing that http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~kt503/3yp/KimsWaveguides.zip Another thing: Something really strange is happening in excitation.pd: Opening it, even with -noloadbang, completely freaks out my Pd and makes it grind to a complete halt for like 20 seconds. The scollbar to the right is showing a huge patch area, but there doesn't seem to be anything outside the visible area. it's the cnv object, that has a fontsize of something rather large...; if you disable/delete/fix this object, then the patch will open just normal. mfg.asdr IOhannes Ciao ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] gem based multi headed media player
hi, has anyone had any experience using (multiple) gem(s) to output several videos simultaneously on a multiheaded (linux) box? the questions that arise as we ponder this is how much CPU gets used to decode the video, how much to render, how much the graphics cards can take away effort from the CPU, what sort of idea of harddisks can make the data transfer more efficent, etc. any experiences? any suggestions? cheers, tim ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Call for Papers: FLOSS+Art
sorry for please -- FLOSS+Art Call for Papers Deadline: September 15th 2007 people.makeart is a new project by GOTO10. It is a repository of articles and lecture materials focused on the relationship between FLOSS (Free/Libre/Open Source Software) and digital arts, as well as a database of free digital art projects. The selected papers will be published on the people.makeart website and will be printed in the FLOSS+Art book, scheduled for spring 2008, using OpenMute's POD publishing service. GOTO10 is now accepting new, old and recycled papers on the following issues: - opening digital art's practice, code and culture - FLOSS communities VS. art collectives - digital art licensing, copying and distributing, using open content models - role of the artist in FLOSS development - influence of FLOSS on digital art practices - free software to produce art and the art of producing free software - economy of an open digital artwork - FLOSS as an embedded political message in digital art - paradox and limitations of open licenses for digital art - FLOSS as a way to quote and embed other artworks in a new one - digital artist as a FLOSS developer/user and vice-versa - definitions and manifestos for a free software art - branching and forking of an open digital artwork - opening digital art to ensure future maintainance and porting Submission Procedures: - Submit your final paper to pmafloss-at-goto10-dot-org no later than September 15th, 2007. Include the text FLOSS+Art followed by your paper's title in your e-mail subject line. - Submit as many papers as you want, one mail submission for each. - Accepted formats : plaintext, LaTeX, OpenDocument No other file format will be accepted. - The paper must be attached to the mail, do not send us links - The submitted paper must be written in English - Paper must be 1500 words minimum More information: http://people.makeart.goto10.org/ :* The FLOSS+Art POD publishing is a collaboration between GOTO10 and the Digital Research Unit of the University of Huddersfield, with commissions and contributions from various organisations and institutions. ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD-list Digest, Vol 27, Issue 15
Hi, I have installed pd-extended 0.38.4 on ubuntu feisty. When I tried to open it, it asked for several libraries. So I made several symbolic links to libraries it has asked for, and they appear to be working OK. But libvos3gcc3.so has got me stumped. When I try to open pd I get the following error message: /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui: error while loading shared libraries: libvos3gcc3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I have libvos3gcc3.so in /usr/lib/openoffice/program. I have tried: a/ making a symbolic link from /usr/local/lib/pd/bin to /usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvos3gcc3.so b/ copying libvos3gcc3.so to /usr/local/lib/pd/bin Neither worked! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone have any advice on what I can do here? Thankyou! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send PD-list mailing list submissions to pd-list@iem.at To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of PD-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Latest Pd-extended experiences (IOhannes m zmoelnig) 2. function-to-block dictionary in pd-extended [was: Re: PD i education] (Anders Friberg) 3. Re: Try my Digital Waveguide Synthesis patches! (Frank Barknecht) 4. Re: Try my Digital Waveguide Synthesis patches! (Frank Barknecht) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:32:55 +0200 From: IOhannes m zmoelnig Subject: Re: [PD] Latest Pd-extended experiences To: David Powers Cc: pd-list Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 hi. i stripped the zexy from the subject-line. David Powers wrote: Bad news: BUT - there are some SERIOUS problems with Gem, and the entire patch is now broken!!! I'm trying to understand more of the problems, but what I see right now, is something wrong with pix_buffer, and pix_freeframe, and something with the fonts, in particular. There's an error with rotateXYZ but I don't think that's important. Any suggestions??? This is on WinXp, pd-extended RC 1. let's have a look. Here is the output when I first load my patch: [tabdump] part of zexy-2.1 (compiled: Apr 14 2007) Copyright (l) 1999-2006 IOhannes m zm?lnig, forum::f?r::uml?ute IEM expr, expr~, fexpr~ version 0.4 under GNU General Public License MAN::resetState entered GEM: loaded image: C:/vid/gem-vj/crab.jpg [tabset] part of zexy-2.1 (compiled: Apr 14 2007) Copyright (l) 1999-2006 IOhannes m zm?lnig, forum::f?r::uml?ute IEM pix_film:: directshow support handle 0AAF0D98 filmQT created pix_film:: quicktime support handle 1AAF0F48 handle 212FCA98 handle 312FCB38 handle 412FCBD0 handle 512FCC70 handle 612FCD18 pix_buffer_read: couldn't find pix_buffer '1115-buff' [pix_buffer]: there is a minor annoyance, where [pix_buffer_read] (and [pix_buffer_write]) do a check for an existing [pix_buffer] at creation time (which is a bad time to check, since the corresponding [pix_buffer] might be yet non-existant). usually you can safely ignore this warning. (however, i was not able to detect any other problems from your error logs, which does not mean that there are none). GEM: loaded images: C:/vid/gem-vj/img/aliens1/ .jpg from 0 to 18 skipping 1 [urn] part of zexy-2.1 (compiled: Apr 14 2007) Copyright (l) 1999-2006 IOhannes m zm?lnig, forum::f?r::uml?ute IEM img-loadhack ... couldn't create handle 012FE8F0 filmQT created handle 112FE9E8 handle 212FEAA0 handle 312FEB40 handle 412FEBD8 handle 512FEC78 handle 612FED20 pix_buffer_read: couldn't find pix_buffer '1121-buff' GEM: loaded images: C:/vid/gem-vj/img/mad/ .jpg from 0 to 13 skipping 1 trying to load C:/vid/gem-vj/freeframe/PeteSlide C:\\vid\\gem-vj\\freeframe\\PeteSlide: couldn't load error: GemException: couldn't load FreeFrame-plugin pix_freeframe freeframe/PeteSlide ... couldn't create just to make sure: you DO have a PeteSlide.dll in C:/vid/gem-vj/freeframe/? and Gem has been able to load this dll in previous incarnations? afaik, Gem for w32 is still just directly pulled from gem.iem.at (instead of compiled on the autobuild farm); this might still be a problem with compiler versions and the like... trying to load C:/vid/gem-vj/freeframe/PeteGaussianBlur C:\\vid\\gem-vj\\freeframe\\PeteGaussianBlur: couldn't load error: GemException: couldn't load FreeFrame-plugin pix_freeframe freeframe/PeteGaussianBlur ... couldn't create handle 012FC708 filmQT created handle 112FC800 handle 212FC8B8 handle 312FC958 handle 412FA350 handle 512FA3F0 handle 612FA498 pix_buffer_read: couldn't find pix_buffer '1141-buff' GEM:
[PD] pd-0.38 installation [Was: PD-list Digest, Vol 27, Issue 15]
Hallo, (I changed the subject to something more meaningful.) ruth mccracken hat gesagt: // ruth mccracken wrote: I have installed pd-extended 0.38.4 on ubuntu feisty. When I tried to open it, it asked for several libraries. So I made several symbolic links to libraries it has asked for, and they appear to be working OK. first: I wouldn't bother at all with such an ancient version of Pd anymore. We're (almost) at 0.41 in regular Pd now, 0.38 is obsolete, You should try to install at least version 0.39, or even one of the 0.40 autobuilds (they work fine on Linux). Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Latest Pd-extended experiences
Just to be clear and follow up, some of this was caused because I was not only missing randomF, but also tripleRand (replacing with abstractions in my extra directory was easiest solution.) That's cleared up, and as a whole my monster Vj patch does run. (And the font issue isn't a big deal, in fact arial never worked out of the box anyway you had to copy the font over somewhere). The [pix_freeframe] problem, however, seems to be the only real remaining problem. Note that these worked with my previous pd+Gem combo. The only thing that has changed is my version of PD. But the plugins just won't load now. I'm using the identical patch except for replaced objects. So would I want to replace this Gem with some other one, wait for a new pd-extended, or what? Adding those plugins certainly gives Gem a nice extra range of pix manipulation abilities, though not essential to my work. *Sorry about the bad subject line, gmail doesn't let you change it in a reply, it's annoying, but I use it so I can check email from work and keep track of things when I don't have access to my own computer... ~David just to make sure: you DO have a PeteSlide.dll in C:/vid/gem-vj/freeframe/? and Gem has been able to load this dll in previous incarnations? trying to load C:/vid/gem-vj/freeframe/PeteGaussianBlur C:\\vid\\gem-vj\\freeframe\\PeteGaussianBlur: couldn't load error: GemException: couldn't load FreeFrame-plugin pix_freeframe freeframe/PeteGaussianBlur ... couldn't create mfga.sdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD i education
On Tue, 29 May 2007 10:39:40 +0200 Eirik Arthur Blekesaune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody help me point out who uses PD to teach electronic music? .. (Algoritmic) Composistion Synthesis DSP-theory real-time performance Electronic music and DSP are intersecting, I think Pd is unique in its potential to teach the greatest amount in a single environment. Before Pd you could only cover such a wide range of principles with a pile of different tools. How to break up units into music processing, composition, synthesis, sequencing? Here's my unit outlines... http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/html/workshops/units-list.html What are the pros and cons for using it to teach DSP-theory? Pros: DSP has a very wide applications field, with Pd it's easy to demonstrate/model lots of things, not just sound, but possibly radar, process control, machine listening, without expensive DSP development boards. If I had more time and resources I would include some physical/electronics and interfacing stuff, because that is useful for real time performance and instrument designers imo. With GUI canvas concept it is possible to build active teaching tools with Pd itself. Active lecture slides that are patches and contain links to other patches makes Pd a very powerful demonstration device for CBT. It's free open source software, perfect for teaching, now students only need knowledge and motivation, not expensive licenses to get education. Cons, hmm, as Tom said, the fine grain sample/block level could be better somehow. There's a river to cross when moving between teaching about delays and filters. And for Pd to be a mature as a development tool as well as for teaching it needs to output code that can be compiled into new externals or used in separate applications. I believe these two things are related. It's like Pd is missing a lowest level where you can basically write simplified code into objects and compile them. Best, Eirik Blekesaune -- Use the source ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] loading freeframe-objects with Gem/Pd-extended (was Re: Latest Pd-extended experiences)
David Powers wrote: Just to be clear and follow up, some of this was caused because I was not only missing randomF, but also tripleRand (replacing with abstractions in my extra directory was easiest solution.) That's cleared up, and as a whole my monster Vj patch does run. (And the font ya, i noticed that most problems have been solved when reading your other mail after sending my reply issue isn't a big deal, in fact arial never worked out of the box anyway you had to copy the font over somewhere). fonts are searched using the pd-paths (as, to my knowledge, is documented in the help-files...); so you can just add -path C:/windoze/fonts (or whatever) to give you direct access to all installed truetype-fonts) The [pix_freeframe] problem, however, seems to be the only real remaining problem. Note that these worked with my previous pd+Gem combo. The only thing that has changed is my version of PD. But the plugins just won't load now. I'm using the identical patch except for replaced objects. So would I want to replace this Gem with some other one, wait for a new pd-extended, or what? Adding those plugins certainly gives Gem a nice extra range of pix manipulation abilities, though not essential to my work. yes, that's the point of having a freeframe-loader available anyhow, could you try replacing the current Gem.dll with an older one (where you know that it worked) and report back? make sure you do have backups though... mfg.asdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem based multi headed media player
Tim Boykett wrote: hi, has anyone had any experience using (multiple) gem(s) to output several videos simultaneously on a multiheaded (linux) box? the questions that arise as we ponder this is how much CPU gets used to decode the video, how much to render, how much the graphics cards can take away effort from the CPU, what sort of idea of harddisks can make the data transfer more efficent, etc. any experiences? any suggestions? cheers, tim hello with a P4 2.ghz and very important, a graphic card with its own memory (with restricted drivers, opengl support, here nvüdüa ) under ubuntu can i buffer (with pix_buffer) more than 8 videos all at 16 seconds length but this are not videos from a harddisk, but directly from one webcam -- cpu uses less than 10%...so the graphiccard does here his job very well. but at this point pd has nothing to handle with the harddisk. i dont have experiences reading non-live videos (from harddisk) and Gem. When i want to render the gemwindow to harddisk with pix_record and pix_snap i have a cpu-load of 100%, tested with all available codecs.. sometimes pd crashes, sometimes i got corrupt movie-files, few times i got playable movies. i got not a stable solution now for rendering. cio moritz ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD i education
Hallo, Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: How to break up units into music processing, composition, synthesis, sequencing? Here's my unit outlines... http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/html/workshops/units-list.html One thing that I always forget to ask students to bring besides laptop, USB-sticks etc. but that is out absolutely crucial and is still often missing: They have to bring a *mouse*. Patching Pd with the touchpad is a major pain. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] puredata Arduino and Ping
Yes, please describe the physical configuration of the 5 sensors Marko. I am working on a similar project using 6 sensors, but we have not done much testing in our proper configuration yet. My guess is that since all the sensors are hard wired with a specific ping frequency, they will detect each other's pings when placed in close proximity. ~Kyle On 6/3/07, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, your code and patch look good. It is not clear to me, why you are using these delaytimes for the different sensors. but that should not affect your results anyway. the minimum delaytime between two measurements is only 200microseconds. but maybe it also depends on the length of the impulse? would it be possible, that the sensing fields of the 5 sensors overlap, and you get the crosstalk from that? on the other hand, it may also be possible that the problem is in your circuit. you could try to use 10k pulldown resistors. maybe that stops the crosstalk. marius. Marko Timlin wrote: I am working with several ultra sound sensors called Ping from Parallax wired to an Arduino board that is connected to puredata. currently I am working with 3 sensors and it works fine. now I want to work with 5 sensors and the following problem occurs: - I get phantom values on sensors that are not modified: if, for example, I change the value of sensor B, sensor C also changes its values, not exactely syncronized but it jumps to a simlar value range. very annoying indeed. is that a problem of my script for arduino or a problem of pd? does anybody already have experience with such a configuration? I am using Pd version 0.39.2-extended-RC1 on windows xp. attached you find the arduino and pd patch for that idea. thanks, marko ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- - - - -- http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] PD i education
hi, andy really interesting site: http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/html/compositions/compositions.html only bad thing is that most of your music-example patches for download require abstractions that are not included. that's sad, because i really liked the pokesdown-patch (the only one that works) btw: padawan vst-instruments are also great ! ciao oliver ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] binweise delay
hi list, is there a possibility for binwise spectral delay with fft? i tried to write the analysis in buffers and read it time-variably out before re-synthesizing, but that didn't work (in fact buffer writing / reading the analysis did not work at all). mirko -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] binweise delay
Hallo, Mirko Maier hat gesagt: // Mirko Maier wrote: is there a possibility for binwise spectral delay with fft? i tried to write the analysis in buffers and read it time-variably out before re-synthesizing, but that didn't work (in fact buffer writing / reading the analysis did not work at all). Is this: http://footils.org/cms/show/60 what you mean? Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] puredata evolution
Hi, PD is often said to be meant to be a tool for just prototyping. It certainly had to be so when it was born but hey, nowadays, with the available cpu power of average machines... don't you think that it is no more necessarily so? I'm curious: how many of you really re-code their pd patches into something else when you're finished experimenting and you've reached a reasonably final version of what you're patching? I don't. I put this under the thread of pd evolution because in my opinion, in my wishes, in my personal vision of pd's future, one really important step would be to assume it is no more a tool for prototyping but an environment for developing final applications. I think pd-vanilla is the data-flow, audio-oriented analoguous of an interpreted programming language. Ok, an interpreted language is 1000 times slower than a compiled one, so, in the case of applications requiring 100% state-of-the-art cpu power, it can only be used for prototyping; however, for applications that require much less computing power than is available, a lot of interpreted languages are used for developing real-life applications. IMHO there are just a couple of crucial things that need to be solved in order to make that step in PD. One is a few bugs that make your life impossible when you're developing a somewhat large application (i.e. many abstraction, reused many times, and nested, as is needed when designing a complex system either top-down or bottom-up or mixed). Every time you hit CTRL+S, you're likely to be obliged to close PD and restart it. And the second is the GUI is tremendously slow. I don't mind it may be somewhat limited if one wants to build arbitrary interfaces. I just accept (and eventually love) pd's gui, with its bangs, toggles, sliders, and the way they work; with appropriate programming (i.e. patching) they are powerful (you can use them as display avoiding manual changes, you can obtain multiple controllers of the same value that don't loose their coherence etc etc). I just take them as they are and as they work... but the problem is: it's all so slow. I can't believe it can't be faster and less cpu-expensive. Reimplementing the CURRENT guy mechanism, without any change in its specifications, in a faster way would be imho an enormous benefit to those who use PD as a developing environment. Because it would encourage rather than discourage such practices as nesting GOP-enabled abstractions to mantain complex interfaces manageable. I don't know whether some of the aspects I describe are specific to the Windows version, as I only use PD under Windows. However, coherently with the idea of a reliable developing environment, if this environment is supposed to be platform-independent, platform-specific issues should be solved. I'd love to hear other opinions about all this. Bye m. -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: In REGALO 'All the Good Thing' di NELLY FURTADO Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=6617d=4-6 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] isn't the GUI supposed to have lower priority than process?
Hi, I always thought that in PD, process (i.e. dsp and control processing) had the priority over GUI rendering, in such a way that drawing the gui would NEVER cause audio clicks although this means there's no warranty about how much gui rendering may be delayed. To my great disappointment, I see that when opening a subpatch with a lot of gui, audio clicks are produced. Just opening it, i.e., right-clicking on it and open (or just left-clicking when not in edit mode) Not to mention moving around a big GOP-enabled object (or, I guess, a handful of gui elements at the same time). But the first one seems to me a much more severe problem. Suppose you have a large application (for a performace, for example) with a lot of controllers and display that you may only occasionally need. So you have your main interface (i.e. most important elements you need to see all the time) in your main window, and lots of less critical displays and controllers inside subpatches or instances of abstractions. When you need to check out or move a display or controller, you click on the subpatch (or even abstraction) to show up the controllers it contains. This is just not possible because when you do that, you suddenly get a second of silence (if the subpatch you open contains more than a couple of sliders), as audio processing holds on while drawing the gui. Do you know of any workarounds? Do you know if this is Windows-specific? This is indeed another example of what I was talking about in my previous message under the puredata evolution thread. Thanks m. -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Prestiti Online. Scopri subito se sei finanziabile. in 24 ore senza spese né anticipi, clicca qui * Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=2908d=4-6 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] binweise delay
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/latest/book-html/node179.htmlhttp://crca.ucsd.edu/%7Emsp/techniques/latest/book-html/node179.html # You can take a look at this page for help in FFT. # How did you impelement the buffered analysis? # I think something like this could work: If the number of bins is 2*N, prepare N tables with size N samples. 1st table has one in 1st sample and zero everywhere. Similarly n'th table has 1 in n'th sample and zero in other samples. This tables will be used to pick up n'th bin from the mixed analysis. # Then prepare 2*N [*~] objects and multiply real and imag output of [rfft~] with [tabreceive~ preparedTableN]. This way every bin will be seperated, every pair has the amplitude and phase information of only one bin. # Then apply delay's to every pair and sum all delayed real and imaginary parts seperately. Finally put these two signals to [rifft~] # If I doesn't have two final exams this week, I'll try to implement what I've said. Good days! -ugur guney- On 6/4/07, Mirko Maier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi list, is there a possibility for binwise spectral delay with fft? i tried to write the analysis in buffers and read it time-variably out before re-synthesizing, but that didn't work (in fact buffer writing / reading the analysis did not work at all). mirko ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc2 released!
On 4 Jun 2007, at 21:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html A couple of known issues: * it's still missing Gem font support on Mac OS X :( Who is making this so difficult? It sounds like politics... T. * the delread~/sqrt~ bug is still not fixed :( Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! http://puredata.org/dev/bugtracker. .hc -- -- All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] iem16_array.o: No such file or directory
From the auto-builds, on all UNIX machines: Message: 1 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 07:36:32 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (pd) Subject: [PD-cvs] autobuild: pd-extended debian-testing-powerpc 2007-06-03 06.28.44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gcc -DPD -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -Wall - W -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -DGEM2PDP_VERSION=\0.6\ - g -g -O2 -I/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/pd/src -I. -I/home/pd/ auto-build/pd-extended/externals/pdp/include -I/home/pd/auto-build/ pd-extended/Gem/src -o yuv.o -c yuv.c gcc -export_dynamic -shared -o gem2pdp.pd_linux gem2pdp.o yuv.o -lm g++ -DPD -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -Wall - W -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -DGEM2PDP_VERSION=\0.6\ - g -g -O2 -I/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/pd/src -I. -I/home/pd/ auto-build/pd-extended/externals/pdp/include -I/home/pd/auto-build/ pd-extended/Gem/src -o pdp2gem.o -c pdp2gem.cpp pdp2gem.cpp: In member function ‘void pdp2gem::pdpMess(t_symbol*, int)’: pdp2gem.cpp:137: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules gcc -export_dynamic -shared -o pdp2gem.pd_linux pdp2gem.o yuv.o -lm g++ -DPD -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -Wall - W -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -DGEM2PDP_VERSION=\0.6\ - g -g -O2 -I/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/pd/src -I. -I/home/pd/ auto-build/pd-extended/externals/pdp/include -I/home/pd/auto-build/ pd-extended/Gem/src -o pix_2pdp.o -c pix_2pdp.cpp gcc -export_dynamic -shared -o pix_2pdp.pd_linux pix_2pdp.o yuv.o -lm make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals/ gem2pdp' cc -Wl,-export_dynamic -shared -o /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/ externals/iem16/src/tab16read.pd_linux /home/pd/auto-build/pd- extended/externals/iem16/src/iem16_array.o /home/pd/auto-build/pd- extended/externals/iem16/src/iem16_table.o -lm -lc cc: /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals/iem16/src/ iem16_array.o: No such file or directory cc: /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals/iem16/src/ iem16_table.o: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals/iem16/src/ tab16read.pd_linux] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals' make[1]: *** [externals_install] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/packages' make: *** [install] Error 2 upload specs linux_make build tar.bz2 Uploading /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build/ Pd*.tar.bz2 ls: /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build/ Pd*.tar.bz2: No such file or directory Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc2 released!
I try H264, MPEG4, PNG, JPEG but always and always the same error message ! : pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported video codec pdp_qt : ERROR : no usable video stream found Powerbook G4 12'' X11 1.1 XFree86 4.4.0 PD 0.39.2 Extended-rc2 (Download today) Jack Le 5 juin 07 à 03:07, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : pdp_qt/pdp_yqt doesn't work with all codecs (yet?). Try MJPEG, JPEG, PNG. Those are among the best codecs to use for live video processing anyway since they take the least CPU to decode. .hc On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Jack wrote: Sorry, i've always the same problem with PDP with Macos 10.4.8. When i try to load QT movie with pdp_qt, there is error message : pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported video codec pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported audio codec pdp_qt : ERROR : no usable video stream found. Le 4 juin 07 à 22:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html After a long pause, it's time for another release. That means Release Candidate 2!! Almost there! Yes, there are a couple known bugs, and most definitely unknown bugs. Let's find them and make a final release! * Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is now default font on Windows and GNU/Linux * Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is included in the Windows installer * Monaco is the default font on Mac OS X * fixed GUI size, should actually be the same size on all platforms now * pdp and pidip should support quicktime/mjpeg/png and theora now * pdp_ieee1394 included on Mac OS X * the Mac OS X package looks much better, thanks to Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] * default preferences are embedded into the Pd.app on Mac OS X * revamped font flags and added '-font-weight' flag A couple of known issues: * it's still missing Gem font support on Mac OS X :( * the delread~/sqrt~ bug is still not fixed :( Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! http://puredata.org/dev/bugtracker. .hc -- -- All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- -- Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] OPEN technologies workshop, Zaragoza, Spain, June 26th - July 1st
OPEN technologies workshop, Zaragoza, Spain, June 26th - July 1st http://www.0j0.org/pmwiki/index.php/Events/GohanDevelopmentJun07 *** FREE WORKSHOP ANNOUNCEMENT *** Arduino, Pd, and Processing are becoming more and more intertwined. Sensors controlling software synthesis, robots controlled by video tracking, custom musical instruments, and more. We are a collection of developers working with these free software tools. Join us to work on projects of these combinations, or help us create new possibilities by bringing these tools ever more intertwined. This event is a combination of a hacklab and a barcamp. We are following the ad hoc, participant-driven nature of the barcamp in combination with the collaborative work studio environment of a hacklab. If you have not been to a hacklab, barcamp, and/or unconference before, here are a couple of good references to get an idea of the way it is done: BarCamp on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp There will be workshops and talks, and plenty of time to work. We will all be working together to create projects which will then be exhibited in Zaragoza. Bring one or more of the following: ideas, projects, a desire to learn, a desire to teach. Come everyday to pick up skills and finish your project. Come whenever you can to learn new bits and pieces, and help build compelling things to exhibit! Dates Location: June 26th (Tuesday) - July 1st (Sunday) Centro de Historia Pl. San Agustín 2 50002 Zaragoza - Spain http://www.zaragoza.es/centrodehistoria/ Team - Guest developers: * Hans-Christoph Steiner, Pd, Polytechnic University, community management * Emanuele Roman, Processing, visual representation[visio imaginorum sonus est] * XÄ, Pd, electronic music Team - Resident developers: * David Cuartielles from Arduino * Marcos Yarza from Libelium, physical interfaces Join us! Just sign up on the register page! http://www.0j0.org/pmwiki/index.php/Jun07/Register If you live near Zaragoza and are willing to host people, please mark that on the registration page. If you want to come and need a place to stay, contact people on the registration page who marked themselves as hosts. .hc You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] OPEN technologies workshop, Zaragoza, Spain, June 26th - July 1st
OMG I was born in Zaragoza and I haven't been back since I was 5... I would do almost ANYTHING to be able to attend this... if only I made more money, ah well... Sorry to be a little OT. ~David On 6/4/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OPEN technologies workshop, Zaragoza, Spain, June 26th - July 1st http://www.0j0.org/pmwiki/index.php/Events/GohanDevelopmentJun07 *** FREE WORKSHOP ANNOUNCEMENT *** Arduino, Pd, and Processing are becoming more and more intertwined. Sensors controlling software synthesis, robots controlled by video tracking, custom musical instruments, and more. We are a collection of developers working with these free software tools. Join us to work on projects of these combinations, or help us create new possibilities by bringing these tools ever more intertwined. This event is a combination of a hacklab and a barcamp. We are following the ad hoc, participant-driven nature of the barcamp in combination with the collaborative work studio environment of a hacklab. If you have not been to a hacklab, barcamp, and/or unconference before, here are a couple of good references to get an idea of the way it is done: BarCamp on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp There will be workshops and talks, and plenty of time to work. We will all be working together to create projects which will then be exhibited in Zaragoza. Bring one or more of the following: ideas, projects, a desire to learn, a desire to teach. Come everyday to pick up skills and finish your project. Come whenever you can to learn new bits and pieces, and help build compelling things to exhibit! Dates Location: June 26th (Tuesday) - July 1st (Sunday) Centro de Historia Pl. San Agustín 2 50002 Zaragoza - Spain http://www.zaragoza.es/centrodehistoria/ Team - Guest developers: * Hans-Christoph Steiner, Pd, Polytechnic University, community management * Emanuele Roman, Processing, visual representation[visio imaginorum sonus est] * XÄ, Pd, electronic music Team - Resident developers: * David Cuartielles from Arduino * Marcos Yarza from Libelium, physical interfaces Join us! Just sign up on the register page! http://www.0j0.org/pmwiki/index.php/Jun07/Register If you live near Zaragoza and are willing to host people, please mark that on the registration page. If you want to come and need a place to stay, contact people on the registration page who marked themselves as hosts. .hc You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc2 released!
Hmm... try pdp_yqt. Also, try opening the movie included in the media folder in the Help Browser midr-mjpeg.mov. .hc On Jun 4, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Jack wrote: I try H264, MPEG4, PNG, JPEG but always and always the same error message ! : pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported video codec pdp_qt : ERROR : no usable video stream found Powerbook G4 12'' X11 1.1 XFree86 4.4.0 PD 0.39.2 Extended-rc2 (Download today) Jack Le 5 juin 07 à 03:07, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : pdp_qt/pdp_yqt doesn't work with all codecs (yet?). Try MJPEG, JPEG, PNG. Those are among the best codecs to use for live video processing anyway since they take the least CPU to decode. .hc On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Jack wrote: Sorry, i've always the same problem with PDP with Macos 10.4.8. When i try to load QT movie with pdp_qt, there is error message : pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported video codec pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported audio codec pdp_qt : ERROR : no usable video stream found. Le 4 juin 07 à 22:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html After a long pause, it's time for another release. That means Release Candidate 2!! Almost there! Yes, there are a couple known bugs, and most definitely unknown bugs. Let's find them and make a final release! * Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is now default font on Windows and GNU/Linux * Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is included in the Windows installer * Monaco is the default font on Mac OS X * fixed GUI size, should actually be the same size on all platforms now * pdp and pidip should support quicktime/mjpeg/png and theora now * pdp_ieee1394 included on Mac OS X * the Mac OS X package looks much better, thanks to Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] * default preferences are embedded into the Pd.app on Mac OS X * revamped font flags and added '-font-weight' flag A couple of known issues: * it's still missing Gem font support on Mac OS X :( * the delread~/sqrt~ bug is still not fixed :( Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! http://puredata.org/dev/bugtracker. .hc --- --- -- All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list - --- Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] OPEN technologies workshop, Zaragoza, Spain, June 26th - July 1st
Well, the workshop is free, and you might be able to find someone to crash with, so it would just be the cost of getting there. .hc On Jun 4, 2007, at 11:31 PM, David Powers wrote: OMG I was born in Zaragoza and I haven't been back since I was 5... I would do almost ANYTHING to be able to attend this... if only I made more money, ah well... Sorry to be a little OT. ~David On 6/4/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OPEN technologies workshop, Zaragoza, Spain, June 26th - July 1st http://www.0j0.org/pmwiki/index.php/Events/GohanDevelopmentJun07 *** FREE WORKSHOP ANNOUNCEMENT *** Arduino, Pd, and Processing are becoming more and more intertwined. Sensors controlling software synthesis, robots controlled by video tracking, custom musical instruments, and more. We are a collection of developers working with these free software tools. Join us to work on projects of these combinations, or help us create new possibilities by bringing these tools ever more intertwined. This event is a combination of a hacklab and a barcamp. We are following the ad hoc, participant-driven nature of the barcamp in combination with the collaborative work studio environment of a hacklab. If you have not been to a hacklab, barcamp, and/or unconference before, here are a couple of good references to get an idea of the way it is done: BarCamp on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp There will be workshops and talks, and plenty of time to work. We will all be working together to create projects which will then be exhibited in Zaragoza. Bring one or more of the following: ideas, projects, a desire to learn, a desire to teach. Come everyday to pick up skills and finish your project. Come whenever you can to learn new bits and pieces, and help build compelling things to exhibit! Dates Location: June 26th (Tuesday) - July 1st (Sunday) Centro de Historia Pl. San Agustín 2 50002 Zaragoza - Spain http://www.zaragoza.es/centrodehistoria/ Team - Guest developers: * Hans-Christoph Steiner, Pd, Polytechnic University, community management * Emanuele Roman, Processing, visual representation[visio imaginorum sonus est] * XÄ, Pd, electronic music Team - Resident developers: * David Cuartielles from Arduino * Marcos Yarza from Libelium, physical interfaces Join us! Just sign up on the register page! http://www.0j0.org/pmwiki/index.php/Jun07/Register If you live near Zaragoza and are willing to host people, please mark that on the registration page. If you want to come and need a place to stay, contact people on the registration page who marked themselves as hosts. .hc - --- You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc2 released!
what codec are u using in your qt mov? p! 2007/6/4, Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry, i've always the same problem with PDP with Macos 10.4.8. When i try to load QT movie with pdp_qt, there is error message : pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported video codec pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported audio codec pdp_qt : ERROR : no usable video stream found. Le 4 juin 07 à 22:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html After a long pause, it's time for another release. That means Release Candidate 2!! Almost there! Yes, there are a couple known bugs, and most definitely unknown bugs. Let's find them and make a final release! * Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is now default font on Windows and GNU/Linux * Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is included in the Windows installer * Monaco is the default font on Mac OS X * fixed GUI size, should actually be the same size on all platforms now * pdp and pidip should support quicktime/mjpeg/png and theora now * pdp_ieee1394 included on Mac OS X * the Mac OS X package looks much better, thanks to Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] * default preferences are embedded into the Pd.app on Mac OS X * revamped font flags and added '-font-weight' flag A couple of known issues: * it's still missing Gem font support on Mac OS X :( * the delread~/sqrt~ bug is still not fixed :( Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! http://puredata.org/dev/bugtracker. .hc -- -- All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ricardo palmieri # 1185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [skype:palmieriricardo] [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [linux user # 392484] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list