Re: [PD] possible [pack] bug

2007-09-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I found something in [pack]'s handling of symbols that seems like a bug 
> to me.  If [pack symbol ...] receives a message with just a selector, 
> then it treats it as if it was a symbol.  I.e.  this packs a symbol:
> 
> [test(  <--this works
> |
> | [test(   <-- this throws an error
> | |
> [pack symbol symbol]
> 
> 
> Whad'yall think?

i think that sending [test( to [pack]'s 1st inlet should not be 
accepted, and thus behave consistently with all other inlets.


famsdr.
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] derivative?

2007-09-04 Thread Oded Ben-Tal
DPCM is Differential pulse code modulation, and its possible to get an 
estimate of derivative with the right predictor. While the difference 
between the last two messages is an approximation of the derivative its is 
a really bad one so extrapulating on 4-points is much better. (dsp theory 
is really not my area but I'm sure some people will be able to explain 
much better about dpcm)
  What I'm looking for is a way to:
(1) store the last 3 values in the series. 
(2) an estimate of the derivative should be
  x0 - 1/2 * x1 - 1/4 * x2 -1/4 * x3 (where x0 is the most recent element)
(3) switch places so the x0->x1 x1->x2 x2->x3 ready to do it again.

I'll try looking at list-abs (I think I tried poking around those on my 
office mac but pd-extended couldn't find them so I left it at that).

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[PD] why does this patch click?

2007-09-04 Thread Atte André Jensen

Hi

Total newbie here, sorry.

Half way through the 3.audio.examples directory, I decided to take a 
break and play a bit around. This generated the attached patch. However 
it gives "DIO errors" with accompanying click every few seconds, 
although I can't figure out what I did wrong.


NB: It needs the adsr and output abstractions found in 3.audio.examples.

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#N canvas 602 134 304 338 10;
#X obj 67 41 notein;
#X obj 67 129 phasor~;
#X obj 67 89 mtof;
#X obj 67 176 *~;
#X obj 66 217 output~;
#X obj 125 129 adsr 1 5 500 0 500;
#X connect 0 0 2 0;
#X connect 0 1 5 0;
#X connect 1 0 3 0;
#X connect 2 0 1 0;
#X connect 3 0 4 0;
#X connect 5 0 3 1;
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Re: [PD] A basic question re: messages and sequencing

2007-09-04 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
For the first - anything like this?
I'm afraid the numbers get reversed this way...

-Chuckk


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>
> I've been working in PD on a project and I have two message boxes with a
> list of numbers. I want to divulge the common numbers into a message or
> sequence. How best to do that? My second question is how best to write a
> sequence with those numbers to a file with time information coming from
> another list (message) again?
>
> thats probably clear as mud - if anyone has time to help I'd appreciate
> it.
>
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#N canvas 0 0 811 669 12;
#X msg 215 101 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8;
#X msg 423 95 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5;
#X obj 406 213 unpack 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;
#X obj 183 134 unpack 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;
#X obj 463 274 ==;
#X obj 227 273 ==;
#X obj 259 272 ==;
#X obj 290 272 ==;
#X obj 322 273 ==;
#X obj 354 273 ==;
#X obj 391 273 ==;
#X obj 428 273 ==;
#X msg 223 402 add2 \$1;
#X obj 182 305 spigot;
#X obj 216 333 spigot;
#X obj 245 304 spigot;
#X obj 276 332 spigot;
#X obj 308 305 spigot;
#X obj 348 333 spigot;
#X obj 387 304 spigot;
#X obj 415 336 spigot;
#X obj 353 169 t f f;
#X obj 327 193 t f f;
#X obj 208 164 t f f;
#X obj 182 188 t f f;
#X obj 257 167 t f f;
#X obj 231 191 t f f;
#X obj 305 165 t f f;
#X obj 280 189 t f f;
#X msg 229 453;
#X connect 0 0 3 0;
#X connect 1 0 2 0;
#X connect 2 0 5 1;
#X connect 2 1 6 1;
#X connect 2 2 7 1;
#X connect 2 3 8 1;
#X connect 2 4 9 1;
#X connect 2 5 10 1;
#X connect 2 6 11 1;
#X connect 2 7 4 1;
#X connect 3 0 24 0;
#X connect 3 1 23 0;
#X connect 3 2 26 0;
#X connect 3 3 25 0;
#X connect 3 4 28 0;
#X connect 3 5 27 0;
#X connect 3 6 22 0;
#X connect 3 7 21 0;
#X connect 4 0 20 1;
#X connect 5 0 13 1;
#X connect 6 0 14 1;
#X connect 7 0 15 1;
#X connect 8 0 16 1;
#X connect 9 0 17 1;
#X connect 10 0 18 1;
#X connect 11 0 19 1;
#X connect 12 0 29 0;
#X connect 13 0 12 0;
#X connect 14 0 12 0;
#X connect 15 0 12 0;
#X connect 16 0 12 0;
#X connect 17 0 12 0;
#X connect 18 0 12 0;
#X connect 19 0 12 0;
#X connect 20 0 12 0;
#X connect 21 0 20 0;
#X connect 21 1 4 0;
#X connect 22 0 19 0;
#X connect 22 1 11 0;
#X connect 23 0 14 0;
#X connect 23 1 6 0;
#X connect 24 0 13 0;
#X connect 24 1 5 0;
#X connect 25 0 16 0;
#X connect 25 1 8 0;
#X connect 26 0 15 0;
#X connect 26 1 7 0;
#X connect 27 0 18 0;
#X connect 27 1 10 0;
#X connect 28 0 17 0;
#X connect 28 1 9 0;
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Re: [PD] derivative?

2007-09-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Oded Ben-Tal hat gesagt: // Oded Ben-Tal wrote:

> DPCM is Differential pulse code modulation, and its possible to get an 
> estimate of derivative with the right predictor. While the difference 
> between the last two messages is an approximation of the derivative its is 
> a really bad one so extrapulating on 4-points is much better. (dsp theory 
> is really not my area but I'm sure some people will be able to explain 
> much better about dpcm)
>   What I'm looking for is a way to:
> (1) store the last 3 values in the series. 
> (2) an estimate of the derivative should be
>   x0 - 1/2 * x1 - 1/4 * x2 -1/4 * x3 (where x0 is the most recent element)
> (3) switch places so the x0->x1 x1->x2 x2->x3 ready to do it again.

Okay, that's not too hard to do. Attached is a solution using [expr],
you could of course also use the other math-objects in Pd. I converted
list-lastx.pd from [list]-abs into a subpatch here to avoid that
dependency. 

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Re: [PD] why does this patch click?

2007-09-04 Thread Derek Holzer
Tell us about your system... OS, audio/MIDI drivers, etc... problem most 
likely is there.

d.

Atte André Jensen wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Total newbie here, sorry.
> 
> Half way through the 3.audio.examples directory, I decided to take a 
> break and play a bit around. This generated the attached patch. However 
> it gives "DIO errors" with accompanying click every few seconds, 
> although I can't figure out what I did wrong.
> 
> NB: It needs the adsr and output abstractions found in 3.audio.examples.

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Re: [PD] next conv in Brasil... meaning business

2007-09-04 Thread Luiz Naveda
Please,

Keep me in touch.

I am Brazilian researcher (systematic musicology) in Gent-Belgium. We are
developing some work in Pd, kinetics and music.

best

Luiz

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> about having it there in 2009Right Alex?
>
> -
> Glerm:
> Hello,
>
> +1 in Brazil.
>
> glerm
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>
> Alex:
> Hi folks, just got in Brasil... I will start talking
> to people now and will be getting back to you next
> week... please send me some files in personal email
> messages concerning the fundings, I am having kinda
> hard time to keep up with the list.
>
> Meet Glerm above, a friend of mine who will gladly be
> involved with the organization, and has aso influenced
> me a lot and helped me getting into puredata :)
>
> cheers
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>
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Re: [PD] new external: closemsg

2007-09-04 Thread Thomas O Fredericks
That is why this object's name will change. It will be called "destroysend"
because it sends a "bang" when it is destroyed. It is designed for inter
patch communication NOT inner patch communication.

After your receive object, simply add a delay message with 0 for time and
you should be sure that the whole patch will be deleted by the time the bang
makes it out the delay.

Tom

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> On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 13:33 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> >  [closemsg] gets
> > triggered too late for that. On top of this, it gets triggered in the
> > middle of deleting a patch, which means you can't rely on the patch
> being
> > complete and you can't rely on the patch being empty either.
>
> when does it exactly trigger? is it true, that it depends on creation
> time? i made some tests with the help-patch: if [closemsg xx] is created
> _before_ [r xx]-[print], then the message gets printed, when closing the
> patch. on the other hand, if  [closemsg xx] is created _after_ [r
> xx]-[print], no message gets printed, when closing the patch.
> i'd say, the most desirable behaviour would be, that it 'bang's before
> anything is destroyed. this behaviour would ensure, that everything
> within the patch itself, that is triggered by [closemsg], would be
> executed. as it is now, it is not clearly defined, whether messages get
> executed or not.
>
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Re: [PD] new external: closemsg

2007-09-04 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo Thomas!

Is there any problem in just using [closebang] ?
(as e.g. in the patch here 
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00174.html, or I don't know 
if someone else already made such an external)

As you describe the behaviour of your object IMHO it sounds not very 
consistent and would possibly introduce bugs in patches ...

LG
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Re: [PD] new external: closemsg

2007-09-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Thomas O Fredericks wrote:
> That is why this object's name will change. It will be called 
> "destroysend" because it sends a "bang" when it is destroyed. It is 
> designed for inter patch communication NOT inner patch communication.
> 

just because i am curious: how does your object relate to the 
[closebang] object (apart from the fact, that [closebang] is meant to be 
an internal and not yet accepted by miller (yet)).
am i correct that your external will be void if [closebang] ever makes 
it into pd?

mfda.r
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Re: [PD] why does this patch click?

2007-09-04 Thread Atte André Jensen
Derek Holzer wrote:
 > Tell us about your system... OS, audio/MIDI drivers, etc... problem 
most likely is there.

Hmmm. My system is linux with jack. Normally I can push it with at least 
7ms latency to >99% cpu usage without audio breaking up.

Of course this particular one was my own bad. I wrote a small python 
script that starts pd, and it had the parameters wrong so it would go 
"pd midi_synth.pd --rt --jack", which meant that the "--rt --jack" would 
be missing, so I was running without --rt :-(

Sorry for the noise...

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Re: [PD] new external: closemsg

2007-09-04 Thread Thomas O Fredericks
I have been waiting (count in years) for the long promised closebang. As for
many PD promises, I am tired of waiting... I got work to do!

I will not patch my PD (or use a special version) because I want my patches
to be cross-platform and accessible to all users.

"am i correct that your external will be void if [closebang] ever makes
it into pd?"
Yes, if it ever does make it (probably at the same time as the threaded
soundfiler). But that is not an issue.
iem_send is voided by PD 0.4, but I still use it, because a lot of people
use PD 0.39 extended and I want to share with them.

"As you describe the behaviour of your object IMHO it sounds not very
consistent and would possibly introduce bugs in patches ..."

If used properly (as for inter-patch and not inner-patch stuff) it should
not. No using [t a a ] to connect multiple multiple inlets to one outlet
will possibly introduce bugs also.

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On 9/4/07, Georg Holzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hallo Thomas!
>
> Is there any problem in just using [closebang] ?
> (as e.g. in the patch here
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00174.html, or I don't know
> if someone else already made such an external)
>
> As you describe the behaviour of your object IMHO it sounds not very
> consistent and would possibly introduce bugs in patches ...
>
> LG
> Georg
>
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Re: [PD] new external: closemsg

2007-09-04 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo!

Thomas O Fredericks schrieb:
> I have been waiting (count in years) for the long promised closebang. As 
> for many PD promises, I am tired of waiting... I got work to do!

I understand that - so maybe you can simply make an external out of the 
[colsebang] patch ?
(I did not look into the patch - so I don't know ...)

> "As you describe the behaviour of your object IMHO it sounds not very
> consistent and would possibly introduce bugs in patches ..."
> 
> If used properly (as for inter-patch and not inner-patch stuff) it 
> should not. No using [t a a ] to connect multiple multiple inlets to one 
> outlet will possibly introduce bugs also.

I don't understand this. The only problem here is communication, because 
the behaviour would be a part of closebang ...

LG
Georg

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Re: [PD] derivative?

2007-09-04 Thread cyrille henry
hello,

you can use the FIR filter of the mapping lib
sending a [1 -0.5 -0.25 -0.25< message on the right inlet to set the coeficient 
should be ok.

cyrille

Oded Ben-Tal a écrit :
> DPCM is Differential pulse code modulation, and its possible to get an 
> estimate of derivative with the right predictor. While the difference 
> between the last two messages is an approximation of the derivative its is 
> a really bad one so extrapulating on 4-points is much better. (dsp theory 
> is really not my area but I'm sure some people will be able to explain 
> much better about dpcm)
>   What I'm looking for is a way to:
> (1) store the last 3 values in the series. 
> (2) an estimate of the derivative should be
>   x0 - 1/2 * x1 - 1/4 * x2 -1/4 * x3 (where x0 is the most recent element)
> (3) switch places so the x0->x1 x1->x2 x2->x3 ready to do it again.
> 
> I'll try looking at list-abs (I think I tried poking around those on my 
> office mac but pd-extended couldn't find them so I left it at that).
> 
> thanks
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[PD] msgfile bug

2007-09-04 Thread Ed Kelly
Hi all,

this one's for IOhannes, (hey :D)

The msgfile bug I found was this: When you do a [goto $1 ( followed by a 
[replace $1 ( message to an empty msgfile, PD crashes. Obviously it's trying to 
modify data that doesn't exist, but it would be nice to have an exception 
handler for this.

Of course, if you fill the msgfile with lines it won't happen, and if PD 
doesn't crash you'll never know the replace didn't work. Perhaps it could fill 
all empty lines up to the one you're trying to replace with 0s?

Or perhaps it could just not crash PD ;)

Here's a patch...
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#X msg 183 88 goto 12;
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#X obj 132 27 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -262144 -1
-1;
#X text 153 25 bang to crash PD;
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#X connect 3 1 1 0;
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[PD] vline~ in PDa

2007-09-04 Thread hans

Hey all,

Has anyone used [vline~] in PDa?  I am using the 0.4 version (I think, it
was compiled 16:08:53 Jul 19 2005) and once you send vline~ a message it
seg faults.

I'll try installing version 0.6 on my zaurus, but I am wondering whether
anyone has successfully used [vline~] in PDa.

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Re: [PD] mp3live~ connection lost too little input

2007-09-04 Thread Batuhan Bozkurt
I tried oggcast~ and mp3cast~ after getting frustrated with 
mp3live~(which is designet for LAN use as a see now), but latencies with 
this system(cast streaming) is HUGE. A minimum of 8-10 seconds and it 
goes up to 15-20 seconds. I've done everything to minimize the buffers 
but no joy...

What would one need to do to get low latencies(1-2 seconds max) with 
audio streaming? (sending control values to identical patches is not an 
option for me, I need to stream audio)

Thanks
Batuhan


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ola,
>
> mp3live~ has been thought for sending mp3 files
> over a lan, not the internet.
>
> for sending a mp3 stream through the internet,
> use mp3cast~ or oggcast~ ( better ),
> connected to an icecast server..
>
> ah, of course you need an icecast server...
>
> and why don't you try sahabuntu?
> it has all tools to stream directly,
> sound or video ( ogg/theora format )..
>
> http://gollum.artefacte.org/sahabuntu-7.04.11-i386.iso
>
> 'i am using windows' is not a terminal statement,
> only a PITA.
>
> from montreal,
> back from camping,
> sa'ha!
> sevy
>
>
> mami music wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi i´m getting this error
>> stream connected.
>> connection lost (too little input)
>> stream connected.
>> connection lost (too little input)
>> stream connected.
>> connection lost (too little input)
>> stream connected.
>> connection lost (too little input)
>>
>>  on the pd window of the remote computer  when sending a stream over the
>> 
> internet using the mp3streamin~ object. It actually reproduces the sound but 
> in
> an intermitent way, with silences.
>   
>> Is it problem of the network?
>> any clues on how can i solve this and have a decent smooth stream?
>> maby using other objects?
>>
>> ah, im working on windows can there be any incompatibility issue?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> daniel
>>
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Re: [PD] mp3live~ connection lost too little input

2007-09-04 Thread mami music
hallo IVES
thanks for your fast and enlightening response. im downloading right now the
sahabuntu, thakns for the advise. Ill be reviewing the tools and meanwhile
trying to turn my PITA windows  machine into an icecast server.

maby BATUHAN can be of some help in pinpointing a nice inf on personal
icecast.

thanks guys

see ya

2007/9/4, Batuhan Bozkurt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I tried oggcast~ and mp3cast~ after getting frustrated with
> mp3live~(which is designet for LAN use as a see now), but latencies with
> this system(cast streaming) is HUGE. A minimum of 8-10 seconds and it
> goes up to 15-20 seconds. I've done everything to minimize the buffers
> but no joy...
>
> What would one need to do to get low latencies(1-2 seconds max) with
> audio streaming? (sending control values to identical patches is not an
> option for me, I need to stream audio)
>
> Thanks
> Batuhan
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > ola,
> >
> > mp3live~ has been thought for sending mp3 files
> > over a lan, not the internet.
> >
> > for sending a mp3 stream through the internet,
> > use mp3cast~ or oggcast~ ( better ),
> > connected to an icecast server..
> >
> > ah, of course you need an icecast server...
> >
> > and why don't you try sahabuntu?
> > it has all tools to stream directly,
> > sound or video ( ogg/theora format )..
> >
> > http://gollum.artefacte.org/sahabuntu-7.04.11-i386.iso
> >
> > 'i am using windows' is not a terminal statement,
> > only a PITA.
> >
> > from montreal,
> > back from camping,
> > sa'ha!
> > sevy
> >
> >
> > mami music wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Hi i´m getting this error
> >> stream connected.
> >> connection lost (too little input)
> >> stream connected.
> >> connection lost (too little input)
> >> stream connected.
> >> connection lost (too little input)
> >> stream connected.
> >> connection lost (too little input)
> >>
> >>  on the pd window of the remote computer  when sending a stream over
> the
> >>
> > internet using the mp3streamin~ object. It actually reproduces the sound
> but in
> > an intermitent way, with silences.
> >
> >> Is it problem of the network?
> >> any clues on how can i solve this and have a decent smooth stream?
> >> maby using other objects?
> >>
> >> ah, im working on windows can there be any incompatibility issue?
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> daniel
> >>
> >>
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[PD] my first external

2007-09-04 Thread Atte André Jensen
Hi

I took the code found here
http://iem.kug.ac.at/pd/externals-HOWTO/node3.html#SECTION00036000
placed it in a file helloworld.c, but got:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/music/synth/pd/externals/atte$ gcc helloworld.c
/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../lib/crt1.o: In function 
`_start':
../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S:115: undefined reference to `main'
/tmp/ccuN3zCm.o: In function `helloworld_bang':
helloworld.c:(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `post'
/tmp/ccuN3zCm.o: In function `helloworld_new':
helloworld.c:(.text+0x23): undefined reference to `pd_new'
/tmp/ccuN3zCm.o: In function `helloworld_setup':
helloworld.c:(.text+0x3d): undefined reference to `gensym'
helloworld.c:(.text+0x6d): undefined reference to `class_new'
helloworld.c:(.text+0x89): undefined reference to `class_addbang'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

I must have done something quite wrong...

This is under debian/linux, gcc version 4.1.2, pd 0.40-2.

I believe the file m_pd.h is to be found:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/music/synth/pd/externals/atte$ slocate m_pd.h
/usr/local/include/m_pd.h
/home/atte/software/pd/pd-0.40-2/src/m_pd.h

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Re: [PD] my first external

2007-09-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Atte André Jensen wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I took the code found here
> http://iem.kug.ac.at/pd/externals-HOWTO/node3.html#SECTION00036000
> placed it in a file helloworld.c, but got:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/music/synth/pd/externals/atte$ gcc helloworld.c

oops, an external is no executable but a dll, you have to compile/link
it differently.
see
http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/doc/tutorials/externals-howto/example1/Makefile


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Re: [PD] my first external

2007-09-04 Thread Cesare Marilungo
Atte André Jensen wrote:
> Hi
>
> I took the code found here
> http://iem.kug.ac.at/pd/externals-HOWTO/node3.html#SECTION00036000
> placed it in a file helloworld.c, but got:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/music/synth/pd/externals/atte$ gcc helloworld.c
> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../lib/crt1.o: In function 
> `_start':
> ../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S:115: undefined reference to `main'
> /tmp/ccuN3zCm.o: In function `helloworld_bang':
> helloworld.c:(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `post'
> /tmp/ccuN3zCm.o: In function `helloworld_new':
> helloworld.c:(.text+0x23): undefined reference to `pd_new'
> /tmp/ccuN3zCm.o: In function `helloworld_setup':
> helloworld.c:(.text+0x3d): undefined reference to `gensym'
> helloworld.c:(.text+0x6d): undefined reference to `class_new'
> helloworld.c:(.text+0x89): undefined reference to `class_addbang'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>
> I must have done something quite wrong...
>
> This is under debian/linux, gcc version 4.1.2, pd 0.40-2.
>
> I believe the file m_pd.h is to be found:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/music/synth/pd/externals/atte$ slocate m_pd.h
> /usr/local/include/m_pd.h
> /home/atte/software/pd/pd-0.40-2/src/m_pd.h
>
>   
Hi Atte,
You're making a library, not an executable.

Try this:

gcc -o helloworld.o -c helloworld.c

then

ld -export_dynamic -shared -o helloworld.pd_linux

-c.



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Re: [PD] my first external

2007-09-04 Thread Atte André Jensen
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

> see
> http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/doc/tutorials/externals-howto/example1/Makefile

Thanks, that works!

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Re: [PD] new external: closemsg

2007-09-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Thomas O Fredericks wrote:


Then what should I call it?
"freesend" or "destroysend" or "destructorsend"


i don't know, there isn't a standard word for that at the pd level... at 
the C level, Pd internals call it "free". however, those "free" callbacks 
don't free the structure itself, they're more like a C++ destructor. In 
C++, you call operator delete, which calls the destructor and then call 
the equivalent of free(). So in a sense, "destroysend" or "destructorsend" 
would be better.



"On top of this, it gets triggered in the
middle of deleting a patch, which means you can't rely on the patch being
complete and you can't rely on the patch being empty either. "

This is not an issue with this external as it is made to annonce to another
patch that the current patch is being deleted.


You are doing what is perhaps the best thing that can be done without 
modifying pd itself, but I'd rather have [closebang], perhaps named 
differently.


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[PD] stack data type

2007-09-04 Thread Atte André Jensen
Hi

Still newbie here :-)

I'm looking for a stack-like datatype in pd that'll let me:

1) push a float to one end of stack
2) figure out if a certain float is in stack
3) remove any occurence of a certain float from stack

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Re: [PD] next conv in Brasil... meaning business

2007-09-04 Thread PORRES
sure...

Hey, all "brasileiros" out there, send me private emails to get involved, I am 
starting up a list of us...

at SBCM (Brasilian Simposum of computer music) they gladly wanted to get 
involved, and help out in the organization of a pd con here maybe connected to 
the next SBCM... By The Way, Miller was supposed to be the guest at this SBCM 
and has announced a great interest to come for the next... the events could 
happen one before the other... next SBCM should be in Recife, which is a great 
beach paradise... pd con should happen in Sao Paulo, which is the most urban 
inferno... people could prepare to attend both events, which works great 
because all flights stop at Sao Paulo anyway :)

i was amazed to see how many people were using pd and showing their work on it 
at SBCM... as I have been saying, it would be great to have a next pdcon here 
for these reasons...

I am gathering info on people here in Brasil, and the idea is to organize a 
local convention next year, which should work as a prelude to the international 
convention... maybe we can arrange to make some meeting while Alexandre 
Castonguay (I know I spelled that wrong) is here next april...

well, thats it for now...

keep in touch.

Cheers
Alex

Luiz Naveda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please,

Keep me in touch.

I am Brazilian researcher (systematic musicology) in Gent-Belgium. We are 
developing some work in Pd, kinetics and music.

best

Luiz

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Darsha:
Alex Porres would be the one to talk to concerning a
convention in
South America...I think there has been some very
unofficial discussion
about having it there in 2009Right Alex?
 
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Glerm:
Hello,

+1 in Brazil.

glerm
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Hi folks, just got in Brasil... I will start talking
to people now and will be getting back to you next
week... please send me some files in personal email 
messages concerning the fundings, I am having kinda
hard time to keep up with the list.

Meet Glerm above, a friend of mine who will gladly be
involved with the organization, and has aso influenced
me a lot and helped me getting into puredata :) 

cheers
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[PD] dallas area pd.gem person

2007-09-04 Thread chris clepper
Anyone in the Dallas area using Pd and GEM?  There is some paying work that
needs to be done on a large installation there.  Knowledge of Macs, HD cams,
Plasma screens would be helpful.

Chris
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Re: [PD] stack data type

2007-09-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Atte André Jensen hat gesagt: // Atte André Jensen wrote:

> Still newbie here :-)
> 
> I'm looking for a stack-like datatype in pd that'll let me:
> 
> 1) push a float to one end of stack
> 2) figure out if a certain float is in stack
> 3) remove any occurence of a certain float from stack

Maybe you want to take a look at [list-fifo], [list-lifo],
[list-stack] and [list-find] from the [list]-abs collection. 

The three container abstractions don't allow to peek into the contents
of the stack so some hacking is needed. Maybe start with [list-stack]
and change the [pd print] subpatch inside to include some construction
with [list-find]. 

Other solutions could be built with externals like [pool] or [coll].

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Re: [PD] stack data type

2007-09-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:

> Hallo,
> Atte André Jensen hat gesagt: // Atte André Jensen wrote:
> 
> > Still newbie here :-)
> > 
> > I'm looking for a stack-like datatype in pd that'll let me:
> > 
> > 1) push a float to one end of stack
> > 2) figure out if a certain float is in stack
> > 3) remove any occurence of a certain float from stack
> 
> Maybe you want to take a look at [list-fifo], [list-lifo],
> [list-stack] and [list-find] from the [list]-abs collection. 

And for 3) hack [list-delete].

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Re: [PD] my first external

2007-09-04 Thread martin.peach
Atte André Jensen wrote:
> I took the code found here
http://iem.kug.ac.at/pd/externals-HOWTO/node3.html#SECTION00036000
> placed it in a file helloworld.c, but got:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/music/synth/pd/externals/atte$ gcc helloworld.c
> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../lib/crt1.o: In function 
> `_start':
> ../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S:115: undefined reference to `main'

Because you need to tell gcc to build a dynamic library instead of a standalone:
Add -export_dynamic and -shared to the command line
Also add -ohelloworld.pd_linux to get the correct output file name.
 
> /tmp/ccuN3zCm.o: In function `helloworld_bang':
> helloworld.c:(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `post'

You need to #include  in the source file.
If you have #include "m_pd.h" then m_pd.h has to be in the same directory as 
the source file.

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[PD] How to make a loop with [pdp_theorin~]?

2007-09-04 Thread Javier García
Hi!

i dont know how to make a loop with [pdp_theorin~].

For example with [pdp_qt] you just have to send [loop $1<

Can you help me?

br.
GARFF

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Re: [PD] error running pd extended

2007-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Sep 3, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:

> Hallo,
> Matthew Polashek hat gesagt: // Matthew Polashek wrote:
>
>> Anyone have any ideas why I get this error?
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC8-linux-i686/bin$ pd
>> pd: error while loading shared libraries: libjack-0.80.0.so.0: cannot
>> open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> Don't waste time to figure out this error, better use a newer
> Pd-extended. 0.38 is two years old or older.

This is a good one to use:

http://idmi.poly.edu/pdlab/Pd-0.39.3-extended-rc5/

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Re: [PD] How to make a loop with [pdp_theorin~]?

2007-09-04 Thread ydegoyon
Javier García wrote:

> Hi!
>
> i dont know how to make a loop with [pdp_theorin~].
>
> For example with [pdp_qt] you just have to send [loop $1<
>
> Can you help me?
>
> br.
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it gives you a bang on 4th outlet when
the file is finished..
and, furthermore, thehelp patch is
actually looping, look it well...

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Re: [PD] new external: closemsg

2007-09-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 15:12 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

> (apart from the fact, that [closebang] is meant to be 
> an internal and not yet accepted by miller (yet)).


dear miller puckette

please accept [closebang], if you consider puredata to be a programming
language.

thanks

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Re: [PD] mp3live~ connection lost too little input

2007-09-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 18:21 +0300, Batuhan Bozkurt wrote:

> (sending control values to identical patches is not an 
> option for me, I need to stream audio)

why? are you using live input? in any other case, you might want to use
netpd [1] for your purpose. it is actually quite easy to use/write your
patch to be used in it. though, i would assist you in the beginning, if
you want.

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Re: [PD] 39.3-extended-rc5 - FFT causes audio failure on 1.67 G4

2007-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Oops, sorry, I thought the URL was there:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? 
func=detail&aid=1561839&group_id=55736&atid=478070

.hc

On Sep 3, 2007, at 6:20 AM, Achim Bornhoeft wrote:

> Where/How can I do this?
>
> Achim
>
> Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:
>> Hey,
>> Could you add your information and details about your machine to  
>> the bug tracker for that bug?
>> .hc
>> On Aug 30, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Achim Bornhoeft wrote:
>>> I have the same problem on a G4, 1.25 Powerbook.
>>>
>>> Achim
>>>
>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:
 Hmm, that's a strange bug.  I can't reproduce this on a Mac/ 
 Intel, but I could on another 1.67GHz Mac runing 10.4.10  My  
 guess is that it's another manifestation of that same 1.67 Mac  
 audio bug.  It worked fine for me using the latest Pd-0.40.3- 
 extended nightly build:
 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-08-01/Pd-0.40.3- 
 extended-20070801-macosx104-powerpc.dmg
 .hc
 On Aug 1, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Ed Richardson wrote:
> Browser/Audio Examples/I04.noisegate.pd causes a complete  
> failure of audio in Pd-0.39.3-extended-rc5-macosx104-powerpc.dmg.
>
> system:
> mac os 10.4.10
> 1.67 GHz PowerPC G4
>
> Upon adjusting either the sampler or noise amplitude  
> parameters, there is a fairly loud single pop, upon which all  
> audio ceases on the computer altogether. Audio will only resume  
> once I quit Pd.
>
> Neither of the following strategies in any combination improve  
> this situation:
> 48K instead of 44.1K
> use of JACK rather than portaudio
>
> I believe several other fft-based patches are affected by this.
>
> This is not a problem in any of the following:
> 38.4-extended
> 39.2-non-extended
> 40.2-non-extended
>
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> related audio card issues with the 1.67 GHz PowerPC G4 Powerbook.
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Re: [PD] creb compilation

2007-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

creb is included in Pd-extended, so:

cd externals
make creb

.hc

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>
> i've got a question from the boring 'how to compile XX'-corner:
> how do i compile the creb library?
> i am on ubuntu dapper i386 and tried it with a fresh checkout from
> pd-cvs.
>
> ./configure tells me:
>
> configure: error: cannot find sources (modules/setup.c) in . or ..
>
> because there is in fact no such file in the whole creb-directory. any
> ideas?
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Re: [PD] creb compilation

2007-09-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
ciao hans

got it. thanks!

roman

On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 21:16 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> creb is included in Pd-extended, so:
> 
> cd externals
> make creb
> 
> .hc
> 
> On Sep 2, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> 
> > hey ho
> >
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> > how do i compile the creb library?
> > i am on ubuntu dapper i386 and tried it with a fresh checkout from
> > pd-cvs.
> >
> > ./configure tells me:
> >
> > configure: error: cannot find sources (modules/setup.c) in . or ..
> >
> > because there is in fact no such file in the whole creb-directory. any
> > ideas?
> >
> > roman
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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] cvs access

2007-09-04 Thread ydegoyon
you should also say you were the unseen performer of tvestroy...

you and hans, too bad you didn't speak to each other in pd conv..

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Re: [PD] error running pd extended

2007-09-04 Thread eric labelle
where can I pick up the source package for this? I'm on an openSUSE box...

thx
eric

2007/9/4, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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>
> On Sep 3, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
>
> > Hallo,
> > Matthew Polashek hat gesagt: // Matthew Polashek wrote:
> >
> >> Anyone have any ideas why I get this error?
> >>
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC8-linux-i686/bin$ pd
> >> pd: error while loading shared libraries: libjack-0.80.0.so.0: cannot
> >> open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >
> > Don't waste time to figure out this error, better use a newer
> > Pd-extended. 0.38 is two years old or older.
>
> This is a good one to use:
>
> http://idmi.poly.edu/pdlab/Pd-0.39.3-extended-rc5/
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Re: [PD] error running pd extended

2007-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


http://puredata.org/doc/developer/GettingSources

.hc

On Sep 4, 2007, at 9:55 PM, eric labelle wrote:

where can I pick up the source package for this? I'm on an openSUSE  
box...


thx
eric

2007/9/4, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

On Sep 3, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:

> Hallo,
> Matthew Polashek hat gesagt: // Matthew Polashek wrote:
>
>> Anyone have any ideas why I get this error?
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC8-linux-i686/bin$ pd
>> pd: error while loading shared libraries: libjack-0.80.0.so.0 :  
cannot

>> open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> Don't waste time to figure out this error, better use a newer
> Pd-extended. 0.38 is two years old or older.

This is a good one to use:

http://idmi.poly.edu/pdlab/Pd-0.39.3-extended-rc5/

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Re: [PD] error running pd extended

2007-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Ack, this one actually works:

http://puredata.org/docs/developer/GettingPdSource

.hc

On Sep 4, 2007, at 9:55 PM, eric labelle wrote:

where can I pick up the source package for this? I'm on an openSUSE  
box...


thx
eric

2007/9/4, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

On Sep 3, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:

> Hallo,
> Matthew Polashek hat gesagt: // Matthew Polashek wrote:
>
>> Anyone have any ideas why I get this error?
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC8-linux-i686/bin$ pd
>> pd: error while loading shared libraries: libjack-0.80.0.so.0 :  
cannot

>> open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> Don't waste time to figure out this error, better use a newer
> Pd-extended. 0.38 is two years old or older.

This is a good one to use:

http://idmi.poly.edu/pdlab/Pd-0.39.3-extended-rc5/

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Re: [PD] mp3live~ connection lost too little input

2007-09-04 Thread Batuhan Bozkurt
Thanks Roman, I know about  netpd and thanks for offering to give a hand.
Yes we use live audio and we need audio streaming. I think technically 
on stable internet connections, technically low(2-3 seconds) latencies 
should not be an issue(occasional dropouts are welcome of course, this 
is for rehersing with my bandmate or friends). But icecast and mp3cast 
servers are buffering way too much whatever I do, and add that to the 
playbackbuffer on the target system... It makes a huuge latency...

Any clues on overcoming this thing?

Oh and I can help anyone trying to build an ogg-mp3cast server but if 
latency is an issue, it's better to forget about it. Other than that, I 
can help.

Batuhan

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> On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 18:21 +0300, Batuhan Bozkurt wrote:
>
>   
>> (sending control values to identical patches is not an 
>> option for me, I need to stream audio)
>> 
>
> why? are you using live input? in any other case, you might want to use
> netpd [1] for your purpose. it is actually quite easy to use/write your
> patch to be used in it. though, i would assist you in the beginning, if
> you want.
>
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> [1] http://www.netpd.org
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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] cvs access

2007-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Yeah, it was a nice performance.  It was unfortunate we didn't get to  
meet in person...  maybe in São Paulo...:D

.hc

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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] cvs access

2007-09-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


you should also say you were the unseen performer of tvestroy...
you and hans, too bad you didn't speak to each other in pd conv..


this is a public and transparent process. it shouldn't matter which sysops 
you happen to know, and every new person is supposed to post a bio no 
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Re: [PD] some images...

2007-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Sep 3, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:

> Hallo,
> marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> movies : .qtl?, .wtf?
>>> sorry, it's unreadable on a regular linux browser.
>>
>> sorry, it's unreadable not only on linux...
>
> Actually it's readable everywhere, as it's just an xml-file that acts
> like a kind of pointer to the *.mp4 file. I replaced .qtl in the URL
> with .mp4 and downloaded and viewed that file instead.

Yeah, the qtl bit is an ugly hack that's probably 8 years old.  I  
should ditch my old script for real photo album software.  One of  
these days...

The files are direct from the camera, hence the format.  It would be  
nice to have a camera that uses ogg for video! :D

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Re: [PD] next conv in Brasil... meaning business

2007-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


And please post out to the list if you can use help on anything, I  
try to help out where I can, though I don't speak Portuguese and I  
haven't been to South America...


.hc

On Sep 4, 2007, at 5:05 PM, PORRES wrote:


sure...

Hey, all "brasileiros" out there, send me private emails to get  
involved, I am starting up a list of us...


at SBCM (Brasilian Simposum of computer music) they gladly wanted  
to get involved, and help out in the organization of a pd con here  
maybe connected to the next SBCM... By The Way, Miller was supposed  
to be the guest at this SBCM and has announced a great interest to  
come for the next... the events could happen one before the  
other... next SBCM should be in Recife, which is a great beach  
paradise... pd con should happen in Sao Paulo, which is the most  
urban inferno... people could prepare to attend both events, which  
works great because all flights stop at Sao Paulo anyway :)


i was amazed to see how many people were using pd and showing their  
work on it at SBCM... as I have been saying, it would be great to  
have a next pdcon here for these reasons...


I am gathering info on people here in Brasil, and the idea is to  
organize a local convention next year, which should work as a  
prelude to the international convention... maybe we can arrange to  
make some meeting while Alexandre Castonguay (I know I spelled that  
wrong) is here next april...


well, thats it for now...

keep in touch.

Cheers
Alex

Luiz Naveda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Please,

Keep me in touch.

I am Brazilian researcher (systematic musicology) in Gent-Belgium.  
We are developing some work in Pd, kinetics and music.


best

Luiz

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Darsha:
Alex Porres would be the one to talk to concerning a
convention in
South America...I think there has been some very
unofficial discussion
about having it there in 2009Right Alex?

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Glerm:
Hello,

+1 in Brazil.

glerm
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Alex:
Hi folks, just got in Brasil... I will start talking
to people now and will be getting back to you next
week... please send me some files in personal email
messages concerning the fundings, I am having kinda
hard time to keep up with the list.

Meet Glerm above, a friend of mine who will gladly be
involved with the organization, and has aso influenced
me a lot and helped me getting into puredata :)

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Re: [PD] [OT] ESR (was Re: documentation material for Pd related grants, funds, and prizes)

2007-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Aug 21, 2007, at 1:32 AM, Chris McCormick wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 02:09:06PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>
>>> while any pure-data dev can add their code to Pd-extended.  You  
>>> could
>>> say we are more Bazaar than Mr. Bazaar because the Pd Bazaar has a
>>> hand in the decision making.  :D
>>
>> I think that you're confusing people. «The Cathedral and The  
>> Buzzword» was
>> written by ESR. Linus didn't start the Bazaar theory: ESR came up  
>> with
>> that as observation (and perhaps some imagination).
>
> ESR's wild imagination is oft lampooned in the comic Everybody Loves
> Eris S. Raymond.
>
> 
> 
>
> The end of the "Interests and politics" section of his Wikipedia  
> page is
> quite illuminating:
> 
>
> In my opinion, his views on race, religion, and politics obscure any
> kind of intelligent comments he has made in relation to software. The
> Cathedral and The Bazaar is an interesting read, but full of so much
> speculative pseudo science that I felt slightly ill after reading it.

Wow, he's a bit off indeed.  Thanks for that link.  I never was a big  
fan, that was pretty much the nail in the coffin.

.hc

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[PD] trouble compiling pd

2007-09-04 Thread eric labelle
Sorry to bother with this but I'm trying to compile Pd from the CVS and it
keeps failing and something that caught my attention at the end of the
configure process is this:

checking for special C compiler options needed for large files... no
checking for _FILE_OFFSET_BITS value needed for large files... no
checking for _LARGE_FILES value needed for large files... no
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating makefile
config.status: WARNING:  makefile.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir
setting

Could it be possible that not having support for large files is causing the
problem and if so can anyone indicate how to turn it on? (am using gcc under
openSUSE)

Thanks for your time helping out a Newbie!

Cheers

Eric
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