Re: [PD] pdpedia - when can we start doing stuff?
it seems that the media pool (database) still hasn't been set up. once that works, i can start doing some pages. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdpedia - creation of png images of patches
Nice. I did this a little while ago too with the help of Frank and Miller in order to print out entire directories of patches. You might want to add this awk script into the chain (assuming it's still needed), it corrects the pointsize and position of object text in the postscript file. On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:39:53 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > i just got an idea how to easealy create antialiased images of patches, > as someone had proposed this as a pdpedia feature erlier on this list. > > in order to do it automaticly i first thougt of adding [loadbang]-[;pd > print patch.pd( to each patch (by just echoing a few lines to it) > but apparently pd doesnt recognize 'print' msg ..but there should be > some other way of making it ( via tcl msgs , i suppose ) > so then just a pstoimg can be used : > pstoimg -antialias -aaliastext pd.ps > > [shell] external can be used as well, actualy .. and maybe after [shell] > returns 0, [; pd exit( can be sent. > > i just have writen this in case someone is realy gonna add this feature > to pdpedia .. > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source psfix.awk Description: Binary data ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdpedia - creation of png images of patches
btw, Pd does recognise "print", Frank also helped me get this going But: It uses old style netreceive which is suicide to run on a server. The attached patch was used to print out live snapshots of graphs in running Pd patches. Send two commands on the socket, first one open the patch you want, sleep is needed or you get a blank page, second one tells Pd to print. >From Perl print "opening Pd file\n"; $pdopencmd = "echo \"pd open $pdfile ./;\""." "." | pdsend 3001"; # open new Pd file system($pdopencmd); sleep(2); print "printing pd to postscript\n"; $pdprintcmd = "echo \"pd-$pdfile print $pdfile.ps;\" | pdsend 3001"; #print ps image system($pdprintcmd); On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:39:53 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > i just got an idea how to easealy create antialiased images of patches, > as someone had proposed this as a pdpedia feature erlier on this list. > > in order to do it automaticly i first thougt of adding [loadbang]-[;pd > print patch.pd( to each patch (by just echoing a few lines to it) > but apparently pd doesnt recognize 'print' msg ..but there should be > some other way of making it ( via tcl msgs , i suppose ) > so then just a pstoimg can be used : > pstoimg -antialias -aaliastext pd.ps > > [shell] external can be used as well, actualy .. and maybe after [shell] > returns 0, [; pd exit( can be sent. > > i just have writen this in case someone is realy gonna add this feature > to pdpedia .. > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source printer.pd Description: Binary data ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] logitech webcam and GEM
hi altern according to this: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3503 you need a driver called 'dkms-gspca'. roman On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 16:40 +0200, altern wrote: > hi > > i am trying to use a USB webcam with GEM on my IBM laptop with Ubuntu > Studio but pd gives me an error > > error: failed opening device '/dev/video0' > > the same camera runs perfectly on the same laptop under XP and also on > my desktop machine with Ubuntu Studio. All using the same patch and same > versions of PD and GEM. > > The camera is a logitech quickcam communicate STX > PD 0.39.3 extended-rc5 > Linux r2d2-desktop 2.6.20-16-lowlatency #2 SMP PREEMPT Fri Aug 31 > 00:58:46 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux > > The camera seems to be recognised, if i plug it on i can see the > camera's blue light flashing and dmesg gives this : > > [27776.980572] ubuntu/media/gspcav1/gspca_core.c: USB SPCA5XX camera > found.(ZC3XX) > > same message as in the desktop machine. > > Comparing the PD output from both machines i can see that after saying > > - GEM start rendering > my desktop says : > - v4l::thread starting > but the laptop says: > - error: failed opening device '/dev/video0' > > i searched with synaptic for v4l and compared all stuff installed in > both machines just in case i was missing some library in the laptop, but > it is exactly the same in both... > > my bet is that some module is missing, but i dont know which ones might > be as i havent mess around with modules very much so far, i am comparing > the lsmod from the desktop and laptop at the moment, there are few > differences but i dont really know where to start from, any one has any > idea? > > thanks! > > enrike > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [ANN] new external: tracker
I got the error with pd 0.39, not pd 0.4 Tom On 9/21/07, patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi federico, > > after compiling your external (with tk2c.bash copied in /usr/bin > beforehand). i have this error: > > /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/tracker.pd_linux: > /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/tracker.pd_linux: undefined symbol: > binbuf_read_via_canvas > > any idea? > pat > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] logitech webcam and GEM
i had alot of trouble with the Logitech Pro 5000 that had a mic w/GEM & Ubuntu the Pro 4000 works like a charm pp Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, i was on the wrong way :) > > Jack > > > Le 21 sept. 07 à 17:17, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : > > > altern wrote: > >> hi > >> > >> i am trying to use a USB webcam with GEM on my IBM laptop with Ubuntu > >> Studio but pd gives me an error > >> > >> error: failed opening device '/dev/video0' > >> > >> the same camera runs perfectly on the same laptop under XP and > >> also on > >> my desktop machine with Ubuntu Studio. All using the same patch > >> and same > >> versions of PD and GEM. > >> > > > > most likely it is a problem with permissions: check whether there is a > > file /dev/video0, and check which permissions are set. are you in the > > correct group? > > > > > > mfgadr > > IOhannes > > > > ___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > > listinfo/pd-list > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pdpedia - creation of png images of patches
i just got an idea how to easealy create antialiased images of patches, as someone had proposed this as a pdpedia feature erlier on this list. in order to do it automaticly i first thougt of adding [loadbang]-[;pd print patch.pd( to each patch (by just echoing a few lines to it) but apparently pd doesnt recognize 'print' msg ..but there should be some other way of making it ( via tcl msgs , i suppose ) so then just a pstoimg can be used : pstoimg -antialias -aaliastext pd.ps [shell] external can be used as well, actualy .. and maybe after [shell] returns 0, [; pd exit( can be sent. i just have writen this in case someone is realy gonna add this feature to pdpedia .. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [ANN] new external: tracker
hi federico, after compiling your external (with tk2c.bash copied in /usr/bin beforehand). i have this error: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/tracker.pd_linux: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/tracker.pd_linux: undefined symbol: binbuf_read_via_canvas any idea? pat ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-dev] [ANN] new external: tracker
Excellent, it compiled on windows (properties window still does not thought). Also, I think you should specify that your external requires PD 0.4 Attached the compiled windows version and a modified makefile. Tom On 9/21/07, Thomas O Fredericks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wow, very nice. Very much improved! > Does it compile easy on other systems than Linux? > > Comments: > I had to edit your makefile to point to my pd sources. Maybe you should > note that somewhere. Also, I had to add a space between ">" and "$*.tk2c" in > the line #12 of your makefile (sh tk2c.bash < $*.tk > $*.tk2c) to make it > compile. > Finally the properties dialog does not work: > > invalid command name "pdtk_tracker_dialog" > > Tom > > > > On 9/21/07, federico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > hi dataflowers, > > > > today I release a new external: tracker > > > > if I have to describe it, I would say it is a 2D grid editor, with > > file load/save support, keyboard entry support, dynamic resizing, > > tracking of the row being read (see help patch attached) > > > > you can get it there, or in CVS under the externals/ffext/tracker > > directory. > > > > http://www.puredata.org/Members/federico/externals/tracker-0.2.tar.gz > > > > please report feedback about use, bugs, and possible improvements > > > > -- > > Federico Ferri > > > > ___ > > PD-dev mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev > > > > makefile Description: Binary data tracker.dll Description: Binary data ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-dev] [ANN] new external: tracker
Wow, very nice. Very much improved! Does it compile easy on other systems than Linux? Comments: I had to edit your makefile to point to my pd sources. Maybe you should note that somewhere. Also, I had to add a space between ">" and "$*.tk2c" in the line #12 of your makefile (sh tk2c.bash < $*.tk > $*.tk2c) to make it compile. Finally the properties dialog does not work: invalid command name "pdtk_tracker_dialog" Tom On 9/21/07, federico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi dataflowers, > > today I release a new external: tracker > > if I have to describe it, I would say it is a 2D grid editor, with > file load/save support, keyboard entry support, dynamic resizing, > tracking of the row being read (see help patch attached) > > you can get it there, or in CVS under the externals/ffext/tracker > directory. > > http://www.puredata.org/Members/federico/externals/tracker-0.2.tar.gz > > please report feedback about use, bugs, and possible improvements > > -- > Federico Ferri > > ___ > PD-dev mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [ANN] new external: tracker
hi dataflowers, today I release a new external: tracker if I have to describe it, I would say it is a 2D grid editor, with file load/save support, keyboard entry support, dynamic resizing, tracking of the row being read (see help patch attached) you can get it there, or in CVS under the externals/ffext/tracker directory. http://www.puredata.org/Members/federico/externals/tracker-0.2.tar.gz please report feedback about use, bugs, and possible improvements -- Federico Ferri ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [GEM] Woodstockhausen
Woodstockhausen: A tiny, esoteric outdoor festival of experimental music and visual spectacles. September 22, 2007 7 PM Glen Alba Gardens 12250 Alba Road Ben Lomond, California 95005 Gates open at 6 PM Tickets: $20 (plus $2 service charge) per vehicle in advance, $25 at the door A 21st-century multimedia folk music extravaganza. A sanctuary for those obsessed with experimental sonic and visual phenomena. • Over 15 performances chosen from artists all over the world • Compositions that use traditional instruments such as saxophone, Javanese and Balinese gamelan, as wells as drums, electronic instruments, MIDI controllers, and original software-based instruments that generate sounds from various sources. • Special guest performance by Rick Walker, an eclectic multi-instrumentalist who specializes in digital live looping and found sound. • Live visuals will be projected throughout the evening, providing a captivating visual component to all of the performances. tickets information online: http://www.elsaproductions.com/wsh/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdpedia - when can we start doing stuff?
In case this wasn't clear before, please go ahead and hack away at the pdpedia.at.or.at/test site. that will remain there for a while while we set this stuff up. Then, once we get the scripted data dump working, that will dump into another new site (currently wiki.puredata.info, but now i am thinking pdpedia.puredata.info would be a better name). So you could move content from pdpedia.at.or.at once the final pdpedia site is setup. Plus it would be great if you did start dumping content into the test site because then we can get a better idea of how we should organize it. I am aiming to have the new site up in a week. .hc On Sep 15, 2007, at 5:10 PM, hard off wrote: yeah i know. i already had a go at editing your test page ;) as far as i see. you're just setting it up as an explanation of objects (or classes, or whatever they're called now.) but pd is more about how you string objects together, than the actual objects themselves. anyway. the community will get it altogether once the real wiki fun starts, ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem with diecimila and pd extended
On Sep 14, 2007, at 4:46 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Steffen hat gesagt: // Steffen wrote: > >> On 14/09/2007, at 19.09, Roman Haefeli wrote: >> >>> i am not quite sure, which one the ardiuno diecimila is (couldn't >>> find >>> any info about it) >> >> Basicly it's the latest. There are info at the Arduino website [1]. >> One change that to my limited knowledge might be of interest, and >> seam most significant, is: >> >> "Rather then requiring a physical press of the reset button before an >> upload, the Arduino Diecimila is designed in a way that allows it to >> be reset by software running on a connected computer." -- [1]. > > I also got my first Arduino now, and it's a Diecimila board. I > couldn't upload anything to the board on my main machine, though, and > at first thought it was broken, but then it worked fine on my laptop. > Need to investigate this later. > > I was told by my vendor, that one has to use the 0.9 Arduino software > to upload, I didn't try any older version anyway. > > I also didn't yet try Firmata, maybe I'll check it out next week, but > as I need to control stepper motors, I might not be able to use > Firmata anyways, I guess. > > Hint for Debian users: The Debian instructions on arduino.cc are way > out of date, follow the Ubuntu docs instead. > > Autoreset is a nice feature, but on some boards it doesn't work, as > they have the wrong firmware on it accidentally. See the FAQ. > Thankfully it works for me. I've got a Diecimila board and I had no problems running the latest release of Pduino: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/Pduino-0.3.1.zip That in combo with Pd-extended 0.39.3, it should "just work" http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html .hc > > Ciao > -- > Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] call for testing: Pd-extended fonts on GNU/Linux
So it turns out that there is at least one person who has problems with the current Pd-extended font setup on GNU/Linux. The only place that I have seen a problem is _only_ 12 point fonts and _only_ on some GNU/Linux machines. Everywhere else that I have tested (which is 25+ machines at this point) it works. So in an effort to track down the source of this, I ask all y'all running Pd-extended on any flavor of GNU/Linux to post screenshots like this, with Pd launched from the command line so you can see the tk scaling value: http://pow.idmi.poly.edu/~hans/pdfonts/screenshots/ Also, it would be very useful to know which flavor of GNU/Linux you are running, which screen resolution, and whether you've set any kind of DPI setting. Please post the images on the web somewhere (like puredata.info) and I'll gather them from there. Remember, you need to have Bitstream Vera Sans Mono installed and working for things to render correctly. It's included on most standard installs, but if you have a customized install, you should double-check that it's actually installed. Fedora: yum install bitstream-vera-fonts Debian/Ubuntu: apt-get install ttf-bitstream-vera .hc "It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of Environmentalism", by Curtis White ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] logitech webcam and GEM
Sorry, i was on the wrong way :) Jack Le 21 sept. 07 à 17:17, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : > altern wrote: >> hi >> >> i am trying to use a USB webcam with GEM on my IBM laptop with Ubuntu >> Studio but pd gives me an error >> >> error: failed opening device '/dev/video0' >> >> the same camera runs perfectly on the same laptop under XP and >> also on >> my desktop machine with Ubuntu Studio. All using the same patch >> and same >> versions of PD and GEM. >> > > most likely it is a problem with permissions: check whether there is a > file /dev/video0, and check which permissions are set. are you in the > correct group? > > > mfgadr > IOhannes > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] logitech webcam and GEM
With GEM and [pix_video] you can send the message [driver 0( or [driver 1( to switch between drivers (e.g: v4l and ieee1394). I can't test here. Jack Le 21 sept. 07 à 17:08, Jack a écrit : > I don't really know Linux, but have you test your configuration (usb > webcam) with pdp object ([pdp_v4l]) ? > I know it's not a good answer, but it could help to know if your > webcam work with your system. > Sorry ! > > Jack > > > Le 21 sept. 07 à 16:40, altern a écrit : > >> hi >> >> i am trying to use a USB webcam with GEM on my IBM laptop with Ubuntu >> Studio but pd gives me an error >> >> error: failed opening device '/dev/video0' >> >> the same camera runs perfectly on the same laptop under XP and >> also on >> my desktop machine with Ubuntu Studio. All using the same patch and >> same >> versions of PD and GEM. >> >> The camera is a logitech quickcam communicate STX >> PD 0.39.3 extended-rc5 >> Linux r2d2-desktop 2.6.20-16-lowlatency #2 SMP PREEMPT Fri Aug 31 >> 00:58:46 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux >> >> The camera seems to be recognised, if i plug it on i can see the >> camera's blue light flashing and dmesg gives this : >> >> [27776.980572] ubuntu/media/gspcav1/gspca_core.c: USB SPCA5XX camera >> found.(ZC3XX) >> >> same message as in the desktop machine. >> >> Comparing the PD output from both machines i can see that after >> saying >> >> - GEM start rendering >> my desktop says : >> - v4l::thread starting >> but the laptop says: >> - error: failed opening device '/dev/video0' >> >> i searched with synaptic for v4l and compared all stuff installed in >> both machines just in case i was missing some library in the >> laptop, but >> it is exactly the same in both... >> >> my bet is that some module is missing, but i dont know which ones >> might >> be as i havent mess around with modules very much so far, i am >> comparing >> the lsmod from the desktop and laptop at the moment, there are few >> differences but i dont really know where to start from, any one has >> any >> idea? >> >> thanks! >> >> enrike >> >> >> ___ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] logitech webcam and GEM
altern wrote: > hi > > i am trying to use a USB webcam with GEM on my IBM laptop with Ubuntu > Studio but pd gives me an error > > error: failed opening device '/dev/video0' > > the same camera runs perfectly on the same laptop under XP and also on > my desktop machine with Ubuntu Studio. All using the same patch and same > versions of PD and GEM. > most likely it is a problem with permissions: check whether there is a file /dev/video0, and check which permissions are set. are you in the correct group? mfgadr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] logitech webcam and GEM
I don't really know Linux, but have you test your configuration (usb webcam) with pdp object ([pdp_v4l]) ? I know it's not a good answer, but it could help to know if your webcam work with your system. Sorry ! Jack Le 21 sept. 07 à 16:40, altern a écrit : > hi > > i am trying to use a USB webcam with GEM on my IBM laptop with Ubuntu > Studio but pd gives me an error > > error: failed opening device '/dev/video0' > > the same camera runs perfectly on the same laptop under XP and also on > my desktop machine with Ubuntu Studio. All using the same patch and > same > versions of PD and GEM. > > The camera is a logitech quickcam communicate STX > PD 0.39.3 extended-rc5 > Linux r2d2-desktop 2.6.20-16-lowlatency #2 SMP PREEMPT Fri Aug 31 > 00:58:46 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux > > The camera seems to be recognised, if i plug it on i can see the > camera's blue light flashing and dmesg gives this : > > [27776.980572] ubuntu/media/gspcav1/gspca_core.c: USB SPCA5XX camera > found.(ZC3XX) > > same message as in the desktop machine. > > Comparing the PD output from both machines i can see that after saying > > - GEM start rendering > my desktop says : > - v4l::thread starting > but the laptop says: > - error: failed opening device '/dev/video0' > > i searched with synaptic for v4l and compared all stuff installed in > both machines just in case i was missing some library in the > laptop, but > it is exactly the same in both... > > my bet is that some module is missing, but i dont know which ones > might > be as i havent mess around with modules very much so far, i am > comparing > the lsmod from the desktop and laptop at the moment, there are few > differences but i dont really know where to start from, any one has > any > idea? > > thanks! > > enrike > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] logitech webcam and GEM
hi i am trying to use a USB webcam with GEM on my IBM laptop with Ubuntu Studio but pd gives me an error error: failed opening device '/dev/video0' the same camera runs perfectly on the same laptop under XP and also on my desktop machine with Ubuntu Studio. All using the same patch and same versions of PD and GEM. The camera is a logitech quickcam communicate STX PD 0.39.3 extended-rc5 Linux r2d2-desktop 2.6.20-16-lowlatency #2 SMP PREEMPT Fri Aug 31 00:58:46 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux The camera seems to be recognised, if i plug it on i can see the camera's blue light flashing and dmesg gives this : [27776.980572] ubuntu/media/gspcav1/gspca_core.c: USB SPCA5XX camera found.(ZC3XX) same message as in the desktop machine. Comparing the PD output from both machines i can see that after saying - GEM start rendering my desktop says : - v4l::thread starting but the laptop says: - error: failed opening device '/dev/video0' i searched with synaptic for v4l and compared all stuff installed in both machines just in case i was missing some library in the laptop, but it is exactly the same in both... my bet is that some module is missing, but i dont know which ones might be as i havent mess around with modules very much so far, i am comparing the lsmod from the desktop and laptop at the moment, there are few differences but i dont really know where to start from, any one has any idea? thanks! enrike ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list