Re: [PD] Pd on Athlon64
hi i am still including the pd-list, i hope this is ok for you. Andy Farnell wrote: > > Thankyou Iohannes, this pretty well gives me the confidence to go > ahead and upgrade through Athlon. The fact that you (and presumably > others in dev) are working towards double arithmetic precision is > very encouraging (I'm pushing the limits on some models now and > noticing noise and artifacts at extreme cases) probably some more things to note: the double precision stuff is not directly related to amd64: it should work as well on powerpc and i386. while i don't have problems with amd64 and Pd, there are other programs that don't fully work: in CM the most noteably is SuperCollider3, where i haven't been able to get the language-part running on 64bit the last time i tried; i hardly ever use SC3, so that it not a big deal (but then: probably i hardly ever use SC3 because it doesn't work on amd64) and just a generic advice: even though i am happy with the amd64, probably somebody else should have their say too. chances are high that i only have a very narrow view... fgma.df IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] LADSPA plugin problem
Hi Andy, Andy Farnell wrote: > For some strange reason [plugin~] has stopped responding > to [print( messages. I'm sure this used to work before but now > I get "no method for print". Any ideas anyone? Try [list( or [help(, I don't remember which does something. > Is there a command line tool or something else I can use to enumerate > the inputs to a LADSPA plugin. listplugins I had some big chats with Frank B on this list about the [plugin~] object and the things you are asking about. Search the archive for details. best, d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 148: "State the problem in words as clearly as possible" ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended, version
the look of pd-extended : light greyed objects, text running out of objects, lack of synoptic overview - is that definite ? can i configure it that it looks the old way ? On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 07:52:31PM +, Martin Peach wrote: > You can get the latest .debs here: > http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ > There are also md5s to verify that the package is intact. thanks, that helps. CtrlAltBack -- |||Ctrl + Alt + Back||| |||restart your view||| ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] urgent! syncgrain for mac osx
hi, where can i find the object syncgrain compiled for mac osx. i was looking for it but no luck, i need to play a patch tomorrow at a concert. can anybody send me please? pun Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd on Athlon64
Andy Farnell wrote: > > > I was thinking of trying 64studio as a new main Pd machine. > > A few things are holding me back from upgrading; > > 1) The reported table/array problem, is that fixed now? yes. > > 2) Extended - when you say there's no pd-extended, does this mean > that most externals can be compiled 64 bit but none are collected > together so you have to do each one yourself? basically correct. Pd itself does not have any problems any more with 64bit. there might still be a few externals that are incompatible with 64bit mode (that have to be ported, because they use low-level tricks), and more externals that still miss the "-fPIC" flag (this is rather trivial to solve when compiling) > > 3) Does the 64 bit version benefit from any computational accuracy > improvement, or is it just running as 32 bit? both the type of numbers in messages (t_float) and signals (t_sample) are still single precision floating point. In Pd-0.41 the types t_float and t_sample are used almost everywhere (where applicable), i hope that i will have patches for pd-0.42 that will allow you to compile Pd with double-precision. > > 4) Is there now a Debian package for 64 bit Pd that I can apt-get? Pd has been in debian/amd64 for some years now. i don't know whether günther has backported all the 0.41 fixes for 64bit. personally i always have the debian-packages installed and never use them. fgmasdr IOhannes > > Thanks for any further clues. > > Andy > > > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Interesting behaviour in Vanilla PD using 'expr'
Hello all, Last night I was trying to learn a bit about the 'expr' external, and I found something that would probably be considered a bug. I opened up the help file for 'expr', and then opened up the Lorenz example. I started the audio generation, and banged on the example. It started to play, and play, and play... I didn't stop the example, but I did close the window for the example, and it continued to play, and play, and play... I then tried the same thing in Extended (one of the more recent nightly builds), and it doesn't do the same thing. It shuts the audio down. Mike ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd 0.39.3-extended on XP:::problems
oscx should be loaded by default in Pd-0.39.3-extended as long as you have the default preferences that were installed by the installer. Otherwise, you can add an [import oscx] to your patch, or prefix those objects with "oscx/" like this: [oscx/sendOSC] [oscx/dumpOSC] [range] is most likely the old link to maxlib scale, so you can replace [range] with [maxlib/scale]. .hc On Jan 17, 2008, at 8:03 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Marko Timlin wrote: > >> >> Hi Iohannes, hi list members, >> as I worked on that patch for more than half a year I wouldn't >> like to change it now. It has a lot of subpatches etc. > > valid argument. > >> So how could I add the C:\Programme\pd\extra\oscx patch so that Pd >> autoloads it every time? The PD Patch menu seems to be full. > > might be able to add it in one of the existing lines by using the > colon: > "/existing/path:/path/to/oscx" > > in Pd-extended you might also add it to the libraries. > > i am no expert in this fields (neither pd-extended nor xp), so you > probably want to save your pdsettings (in the registry) before > doing that. > > >> And: How can I make sure that PD loads all the available patchs > > i am sure that you don't want to do that. > > if you just want to check whether all the objects have been found > correctly, you should have a look at the pdconsole output after > loading > and look out for "could not create" lines. > > > fgmadsr > IOhannes > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] OT - pders in chicago/ann arbor?
Hi folks I'll be in Chicago on Tues night/Wed all day next week (Jan 22/23) and Ann Arbor Thursday (Jan 24). Not sure what the schedule is, but if it permits, any PDers up for a beer? Anything neat happening Wednesday night in Chicago? cheers dafydd -- www.sideshowmedia.ca skype: chickeninthegrass ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] LADSPA plugin problem
For some strange reason [plugin~] has stopped responding to [print( messages. I'm sure this used to work before but now I get "no method for print". Any ideas anyone? Is there a command line tool or something else I can use to enumerate the inputs to a LADSPA plugin. cheers, Andy -- Use the source ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD into web?
Hello, You can use Flosc (a java server) converting XML from flash to osc for PD (or vice-versa). There is also Audio_PureData developed by Alexandre Quessy using libraries from Pear (PHP). With this library you can send data from PHP to PD. Hope it will help you. ++ Jack Le 17 janv. 08 à 11:44, raul diaz a écrit : Hi list! I would like to know your opinion about the posibilities of using PD into web. I love the posibilies of using PD with another languages (as Processing) with OSC, but I can't carry that into web. Maybe that's because I don't know too much about server languages (I'm starting learning PHP), but I don't really know the possibilities of use PD in web. Is it possible to run a PD archive (or a PD.bat) from server (where PD is installed) and show the PD output into our web? I remember there was an external by Gunter Geiger related with that...am I wrong? So, I'm looking forward to read your opinions about how can we improved audio tratment on web with PD Saludos! -- Raul Diaz Poblete * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barcelona [Spain] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] about fiddle~
I don't know if this helps, but I wrote a paper, "score following using the sung voice" that has some info on that: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Publications//icmc95.ps cheers Miller On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 04:06:59PM +0100, matteo sisti sette wrote: > First of all thanks to everybody for the clarifications and > suggestions I received. > > > 2008/1/11, Miller Puckette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I don't know any canonical way to decide when a note is finished, except > > to notice that a new note has started. > > That's very interesting: it reveals to me how wrong my way of > conceiving the whole thing from the beginning is. > > I still can't understand too well how it works. I mean, apart from > what I was trying to do and no matter whether fiddle is or isn't > possibly useful for doing that, I am now simply trying to understand > just how fiddle works. > > My idea of "understanding" is being able to predict the expected (or > ideal) behaviour of fiddle in response to a given input. > > For example, how should I expect it to behave if I send it a phasor > (to say a non-sinusoidal but clean-pitched sound) with a pitch that > increases slowly but steadily up to several semitones or even octaves? > What if the same increase in pitch is much faster? How do the > "vibrato" parameters influence? > Another example: what about re-attacks? When should I expect a > repetition of the same note to appear as a repeated pitch on the > cooked-pitch (first) outlet, and when should I instead expect only a > bang in the attack outlet? > > Is all this kind of things explained in detail somewhere? > Maybe all or part of this is not specifical to Fiddle but generar > pitchtracking theory stuff? > > Or do I have to look at the source code? :scared: > > I did try to play with it and observe in order to find some answers, > but I'm too lost to be able to draw conclusions from tests (too many > mutually interfering questions). > > > By the way, I had a look at the examples mentioned by Hans Roels (I > only found example patches, no plain explanations) but I'm afraid my > uncertainties are at a deeper level. > > Thanks again > m. > > -- > Matteo Sisti Sette > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.matteosistisette.com > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] about fiddle~
First of all thanks to everybody for the clarifications and suggestions I received. 2008/1/11, Miller Puckette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I don't know any canonical way to decide when a note is finished, except > to notice that a new note has started. That's very interesting: it reveals to me how wrong my way of conceiving the whole thing from the beginning is. I still can't understand too well how it works. I mean, apart from what I was trying to do and no matter whether fiddle is or isn't possibly useful for doing that, I am now simply trying to understand just how fiddle works. My idea of "understanding" is being able to predict the expected (or ideal) behaviour of fiddle in response to a given input. For example, how should I expect it to behave if I send it a phasor (to say a non-sinusoidal but clean-pitched sound) with a pitch that increases slowly but steadily up to several semitones or even octaves? What if the same increase in pitch is much faster? How do the "vibrato" parameters influence? Another example: what about re-attacks? When should I expect a repetition of the same note to appear as a repeated pitch on the cooked-pitch (first) outlet, and when should I instead expect only a bang in the attack outlet? Is all this kind of things explained in detail somewhere? Maybe all or part of this is not specifical to Fiddle but generar pitchtracking theory stuff? Or do I have to look at the source code? :scared: I did try to play with it and observe in order to find some answers, but I'm too lost to be able to draw conclusions from tests (too many mutually interfering questions). By the way, I had a look at the examples mentioned by Hans Roels (I only found example patches, no plain explanations) but I'm afraid my uncertainties are at a deeper level. Thanks again m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD into web?
i have some documentation about interfacing Pd on the web, its really outdatted but maybe it will introduce you a little bit on this topic, using phpOSC+javascript+PD ... now with AJAX it's possible to improve a lot this way ... http://www.artefacte.org/docs/osc.html ... another thing we where testing for some time with yves was using patches with streaming objects in serverside. (pd installed in the server and running with the -nogui option) i mean using pdp_thenoice~ or shoutcast~ or Mp3cast~ to stream audio/video to an icecast server ... and using OSC to change/interact with the streamed output ... hope this can help ... (aldo i know some people in this list doing things like this using flash or others but i dons remember exactly now, try the list archives) S'està citant raul diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi list! > > I would like to know your opinion about the posibilities of using PD into > web. > I love the posibilies of using PD with another languages (as Processing) > with OSC, but I can't carry that into web. > Maybe that's because I don't know too much about server languages (I'm > starting learning PHP), but I don't really know the possibilities of use PD > in web. > Is it possible to run a PD archive (or a PD.bat) from server (where PD is > installed) and show the PD output into our web? > I remember there was an external by Gunter Geiger related with that...am I > wrong? > So, I'm looking forward to read your opinions about how can we improved > audio tratment on web with PD > > Saludos! > > -- > Raul Diaz Poblete > * > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Barcelona [Spain] > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdp / scaf
S'està citant Erich Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > hello, > maybe somebody (tom r u still on this list ?) > could help me with the following 2 questions > about pdp/scaf: > > 1) > if i use a video or live video feed > input via pdp_image2ca into pdp_ca, > the output image of pdp_ca is "rolling" from > left to right - how can i stabilize it ? there is a message to do it, hshift16 for me it works with |hshift16 1( > > 2) > is the number of cells or cell resolution "hardcoded" > into pdp_image2ca or can i change it - via a message? try the message "ca" (or "dim" i think both do the same) > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd 0.39.3-extended on XP:::problems
Marko Timlin wrote: > > Hi Iohannes, hi list members, > as I worked on that patch for more than half a year I wouldn't like to change > it now. It has a lot of subpatches etc. valid argument. > So how could I add the C:\Programme\pd\extra\oscx patch so that Pd autoloads > it every time? The PD Patch menu seems to be full. might be able to add it in one of the existing lines by using the colon: "/existing/path:/path/to/oscx" in Pd-extended you might also add it to the libraries. i am no expert in this fields (neither pd-extended nor xp), so you probably want to save your pdsettings (in the registry) before doing that. > And: How can I make sure that PD loads all the available patchs i am sure that you don't want to do that. if you just want to check whether all the objects have been found correctly, you should have a look at the pdconsole output after loading and look out for "could not create" lines. fgmadsr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd 0.39.3-extended on XP:::problems
Marko Timlin wrote: > Hi everybody, > I recently installed the newer Pd version 0.39.3-extended on a Windows XP machine. > Now I opened a patch that was working perfectly fine with the previous Pd version, but I got: > sendOSC > ... couldn't create > dumpOSC 9997 > ... couldn't create > range 0 0.22 300 0 0 > ... couldn't create > > That's a bit scary, as I worked a couple of months on that patch and now it doesn't work. > So does anybody know why with the newer PD version there seem to be no sendOSC, dumpOSC and range objects any more? > Any suggestions how to solve that? > load OSCx apart from that, why not use mrpeach's [packOSC], [unpackOSC],... i think your problem might be, that some externals have left the "flatspace" and are now available "on their own", so you need to add more paths (or libdirs) to your preferences. fgasdmr, IOhannes Hi Iohannes, hi list members, as I worked on that patch for more than half a year I wouldn't like to change it now. It has a lot of subpatches etc. So how could I add the C:\Programme\pd\extra\oscx patch so that Pd autoloads it every time? The PD Patch menu seems to be full. And: How can I make sure that PD loads all the available patchs Thanks, M.T. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] some audio-visual drones made with Pd + GridFlow
Hi all, I made some audio-visual drones with Pd + GridFlow: http://www.archive.org/details/ClaudiusMaximus_-_CycleTile_Sonification_1 Various download formats available in the left sidebar. The source code is there too (select "all files" and find the .pd). Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd 0.39.3-extended on XP:::problems
Marko Timlin wrote: > Hi everybody, > I recently installed the newer Pd version 0.39.3-extended on a Windows XP > machine. > Now I opened a patch that was working perfectly fine with the previous Pd > version, but I got: > sendOSC > ... couldn't create > dumpOSC 9997 > ... couldn't create > range 0 0.22 300 0 0 > ... couldn't create > > That's a bit scary, as I worked a couple of months on that patch and now it > doesn't work. > So does anybody know why with the newer PD version there seem to be no > sendOSC, dumpOSC and range objects any more? > Any suggestions how to solve that? > load OSCx apart from that, why not use mrpeach's [packOSC], [unpackOSC],... i think your problem might be, that some externals have left the "flatspace" and are now available "on their own", so you need to add more paths (or libdirs) to your preferences. fgasdmr, IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd 0.39.3-extended on XP:::problems
Hi everybody, I recently installed the newer Pd version 0.39.3-extended on a Windows XP machine. Now I opened a patch that was working perfectly fine with the previous Pd version, but I got: sendOSC ... couldn't create dumpOSC 9997 ... couldn't create range 0 0.22 300 0 0 ... couldn't create That's a bit scary, as I worked a couple of months on that patch and now it doesn't work. So does anybody know why with the newer PD version there seem to be no sendOSC, dumpOSC and range objects any more? Any suggestions how to solve that? Thanks, M.T. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] non-audio data in Pd
Hi, I was wondering what is the best way to pass non-audio data from object to another. I mean for example I would like to have one object encoding audio and another object sending the encoded audio over a network. So what would be the best way to pass this encoded data to another object? Just put all data to a list and pass that? Or what about the t_gpointer data type? Is it possible to use that one to point to a memory where I have the encoded data? Or are there better ways? -Mika ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] PD into web?
Hi list! I would like to know your opinion about the posibilities of using PD into web. I love the posibilies of using PD with another languages (as Processing) with OSC, but I can't carry that into web. Maybe that's because I don't know too much about server languages (I'm starting learning PHP), but I don't really know the possibilities of use PD in web. Is it possible to run a PD archive (or a PD.bat) from server (where PD is installed) and show the PD output into our web? I remember there was an external by Gunter Geiger related with that...am I wrong? So, I'm looking forward to read your opinions about how can we improved audio tratment on web with PD Saludos! -- Raul Diaz Poblete * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barcelona [Spain] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd on Athlon64
Georg Holzmann wrote: > Hallo! > >> pitfal: not using Pd-0.41 >> advice: use pd-0.41 > > What is the difference between Pd-0.41 and pd-0.41 ;) ? the one is a generic term for any 0.41 release (including tests), while the other is only an official release (according to miller: coming soon) gfmasdr. IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd on Athlon64
Hallo! > pitfal: not using Pd-0.41 > advice: use pd-0.41 What is the difference between Pd-0.41 and pd-0.41 ;) ? LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd on Athlon64
Andy Farnell wrote:
> Is anyone using Pd on Athlon64? Any advice to give? Pitfalls, setup tips?
me.
pitfal: not using Pd-0.41
advice: use pd-0.41
note: there is still no Pd-extended for 0.41; if you are using
Pd-extended, you might be better off not using a 64bit linux for the
time being.
tip of the day: if you running a dual-boot with /home used in both 32bit
and 64bit environments, it often helps if externals have the suffix
.l_i386 and .l_ia64; the old .pd_linux suffix might sometimes create
confusion, when libraries refuse to load.
ot-tip of yesterday: i found a dual-boot environment with a moving
target (debian sid/lenny) unmaintainable; while i still have the 32bit
system eating up a third of my harddisk, i haven't used it for years (as
a matter of fact, the last time i tried was at the lac2007, and i
miserably failed)
apart from that, i am very happy.
finally{}: i assumed that you want to use a 64bit operating system; of
course you can also run your athlon64 in 32bit mode...
fgmadsr.
IOhannes
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