Re: [PD] pd thunder
just a suggestion: i think the reason why they sound a bit like explosions, rather than thunder, is because the cracks of thunder are propogated directly in front of you. maybe some sort of spatialization could make the crack appear more overhead, and then the rumble lower down? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] overall horrible performance in OS X
the patch i'm currently using has a base cpu output of around 50% and then it goes up to about 70% when running. ..but that's with 8 channels of drums, 4 synth channels, 8 sampler channels and dsp effects + gui for all of them. i didn't know that about the itunes eq either. is there a way to turn that off? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] New machine - sound hardware?
i used "sudo sysv-rc-conf" to disable cron and anacron, as well as some other processes Miller Puckette(e)k dio: > My trick for getting updatedb turned off is to remove the 'slocate' > package that it's a part of. Took me some time to figure that out. > > cheers > Miller > > On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 03:34:32AM +0100, altern wrote: >> hi patrick >> >> I have a terratec phase X24 and the only problem I have is because of >> the firewire controller on my laptop (IBM X32) which seems to be crap (a >> Ricoh). So it is not the soundcard. I was told on the freebob list that >> I should buy a PCMCIA firewire card to solve this. I disabled cron and >> anacron (one of them was starting updatedb causing big trouble with >> jack) and I stop the wifi card while I use the soundcard. I also >> compiled freebob and jack from latest stable source. After all this it >> works better, jack still quits but takes couple of hours to happen. >> >> Regarding PD I get clicks when switching desktops, I use Fluxbox on >> Ubuntu Studio. This does not happen with other software like >> Supercollider. I guess I need to play around with PD startup flags. I >> havent tested latency with test patch. Thanks for pointing into the >> ath_pci issue, I will test to see if this makes any difference. >> >> enrike >> >> patrick(e)k dio: >>> 1. Has anyone a working firewire (ieee1394) interface with their laptop >>> >>> i have a macbook pro with a presonus firepod (firewire) running linux with >>> freebob (ffado is not ready). the latency testing patch in pd gives me >>> around 12 ms, but jdelay is 7 ms. the only annoying thing with my setup is >>> that i have to rmmod ath_pci to avoid glitches (pretty weird). >>> >>> i am waiting for the first release of ffado. maybe it will fix this problem. >>> pat >>> >>> ___ >>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> >> ___ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] New machine - sound hardware?
My trick for getting updatedb turned off is to remove the 'slocate' package that it's a part of. Took me some time to figure that out. cheers Miller On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 03:34:32AM +0100, altern wrote: > hi patrick > > I have a terratec phase X24 and the only problem I have is because of > the firewire controller on my laptop (IBM X32) which seems to be crap (a > Ricoh). So it is not the soundcard. I was told on the freebob list that > I should buy a PCMCIA firewire card to solve this. I disabled cron and > anacron (one of them was starting updatedb causing big trouble with > jack) and I stop the wifi card while I use the soundcard. I also > compiled freebob and jack from latest stable source. After all this it > works better, jack still quits but takes couple of hours to happen. > > Regarding PD I get clicks when switching desktops, I use Fluxbox on > Ubuntu Studio. This does not happen with other software like > Supercollider. I guess I need to play around with PD startup flags. I > havent tested latency with test patch. Thanks for pointing into the > ath_pci issue, I will test to see if this makes any difference. > > enrike > > patrick(e)k dio: > > 1. Has anyone a working firewire (ieee1394) interface with their laptop > > > > i have a macbook pro with a presonus firepod (firewire) running linux with > > freebob (ffado is not ready). the latency testing patch in pd gives me > > around 12 ms, but jdelay is 7 ms. the only annoying thing with my setup is > > that i have to rmmod ath_pci to avoid glitches (pretty weird). > > > > i am waiting for the first release of ffado. maybe it will fix this problem. > > pat > > > > ___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] New machine - sound hardware?
hi patrick I have a terratec phase X24 and the only problem I have is because of the firewire controller on my laptop (IBM X32) which seems to be crap (a Ricoh). So it is not the soundcard. I was told on the freebob list that I should buy a PCMCIA firewire card to solve this. I disabled cron and anacron (one of them was starting updatedb causing big trouble with jack) and I stop the wifi card while I use the soundcard. I also compiled freebob and jack from latest stable source. After all this it works better, jack still quits but takes couple of hours to happen. Regarding PD I get clicks when switching desktops, I use Fluxbox on Ubuntu Studio. This does not happen with other software like Supercollider. I guess I need to play around with PD startup flags. I havent tested latency with test patch. Thanks for pointing into the ath_pci issue, I will test to see if this makes any difference. enrike patrick(e)k dio: > 1. Has anyone a working firewire (ieee1394) interface with their laptop > > i have a macbook pro with a presonus firepod (firewire) running linux with > freebob (ffado is not ready). the latency testing patch in pd gives me > around 12 ms, but jdelay is 7 ms. the only annoying thing with my setup is > that i have to rmmod ath_pci to avoid glitches (pretty weird). > > i am waiting for the first release of ffado. maybe it will fix this problem. > pat > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] New machine - sound hardware?
1. Has anyone a working firewire (ieee1394) interface with their laptop i have a macbook pro with a presonus firepod (firewire) running linux with freebob (ffado is not ready). the latency testing patch in pd gives me around 12 ms, but jdelay is 7 ms. the only annoying thing with my setup is that i have to rmmod ath_pci to avoid glitches (pretty weird). i am waiting for the first release of ffado. maybe it will fix this problem. pat ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd thunder
On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:01:59 -0500
marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi andy,
> the samples sound very complex already, how did you create them? I had
> more the impression of explosions, though, than thunder.
Yes, interesting feedback. Theres three models I've got atm. The Wright
Mendorp and N-Wave model are expensive so I can only render with a certain
density. To get close ups with a proper BANG! you need a lot of density.
Where I fill in with noise based models (cheating) it loses the detail.
But the aftershocks and late reflections are sounding okay I think.
I'm trying two ways, one with a giant multi-tap and filters, which is
like a monster FIR filter, and another using convolution in Csound.
Not sure which is best yet. Definitely not real-time models, but they
could possibly be simplified for real-time execution.
> regarding books, do you know if any of these books are available as pdfs
> at all? otherwise do you want paper copies???
> at least the second article is available online at
> http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=898&page=46
> marius.
Nice one!! Good find Marius. Obviously pdfs are good because I can
copy and paste refs and search, but thanks for finding me A.A Few.
Will read this one tonight.
best,
Andy
>
> Andy Farnell wrote:
> > Any feedback appreciated (aesthetic criticism most welcome) on
> > some designs done in Pd.
> >
> > http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/sounds/effect-synthetic-thunder-21.mp3
> > http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/sounds/effect-synthetic-thunder-34.mp3
> > http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/sounds/effect-synthetic-thunder-57.mp3
> >
> > If anyone has a copy of these papers I would be very grateful.
> > I can't afford to pay the gatekeepers of knowledge.
> >
> > H. E Bass, Propagation of Thunder Through the Atmosphere
> > Acoust.soc. Am. 67, 1959-1966 (1980)
> >
> > A.A. Few, "Acoustic Radiations from Lightning" CRC Handbook of
> > Atmospherics, pp. 257-290. Vol. 2, edited by H. Volland (1982)
> >
> > H.L. Brode, The Blast Wave in Air Resulting from a High Temperature
> > High Pressure Sphere of Air" Res. Mem. RM-1825-AEC, The Rand
> > Corporation, SantaMonica, CA {1956).
> >
> >
> > I am working with Ribner and Roy and Angelo Farinas papers right now,
> > kindly given to me by another researcher.
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > _
> >
>
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Re: [PD] [OT] New machine - sound hardware?
I've been using a firewire presonus firepod with the freebob drivers
under linux. With Ubuntu Studio and the real time kernel I can get
around 2-5ms with no dropouts. It also works in OSX and windoze. The
midi also works fine. The presonus has been good so far, well
designed, metal case, lots of 1/4" jacks 24/96. They lie a bit on there
spec sheet. They claim it's 10 in 6 out, but in reality you get 6 x
1/4" ins and 4 x 1/4" outs with a stereo digital spidif in and out
ganged up on the midi breakout cable. And I think they let you
replicate an output on your headphone jack, but it's not truly another
out, at least as far as I've been able to tell. As far as a $325 CDN
soundcard goes, it's pretty good.
I also have a midisport 1x1 that works fine in ubuntu.
Nils
Ed Kelly wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Been off the list - overworked and ill...
>
> So, after my laptop was stolen, I bought a new one. But really a new
> one, so now I have some serious problems...
>
> Technically this does what I need in every way but sound hardware. Two
> instances of PD use seperate processors of the CPU, so sound and PDP
> can run in two PDs ;~) Well, The audio latency is 280ms and I still
> get dropouts. Damn you Dell ;-{
>
> BUT - there is no PCMCIA cardbus slot. Only a new expresscard slot,
> which might become useful given a year or two. Of course I am hoping
> that there is a solution to my audio hardware problems, so I ask a few
> questions now.
>
> 1. Has anyone a working firewire (ieee1394) interface with their
> laptop that runs with low latency (<16ms, MIDI in to audio out) under
> Linux with PD? What is it and what driver (ffado? freeBoB?)
>
> 2. What MIDI interface under Ubuntu? I have tried and tried again to
> get a Midisport 2x2 working with both the source code (both versions -
> 0.5 and 1.2) and the Ubuntu packages - no luck!
>
> 3. USB audio interface? I know this is a long shot...ALSA has never
> worked with PD on any computer I have owned.
>
> There is also the expresscard interface - for which their are only two
> soundcards AFAIK - Creative X-Fi (support has been dropped, and no
> source code available) and Universal Audio X-Pander (I can't afford
> it, and there's no Linux support as yet).
>
> So, are there any really good reports of successful hardware/linux
> combinations? I really think we and the rest of the Linux community
> need to crack this. I'm not a good enough software developer to write
> drivers and I don't have much time right now*, but the best hardware
> is firewire these days, and RME don't make a PCMCIA expresscard interface.
>
> Searching the archives lead me to few emails, one success with freeBoB
> and an Edirol interface was the only optimism I found. PD under Linux
> has become pretty much useless with this new computer - dropouts
> everywhere. (PS, Window$ Vista is the operating system that stops you
> operating, and is bad with every audio program I have found).
>
> But as the old computers die, we'll be left with these machines with
> their altered hardware configuration. It's getting harder and harder
> to run PD on new hardware.
>
> Best,
> Ed
>
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Re: [PD] pd thunder
hi andy,
the samples sound very complex already, how did you create them? I had
more the impression of explosions, though, than thunder.
regarding books, do you know if any of these books are available as pdfs
at all? otherwise do you want paper copies???
at least the second article is available online at
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=898&page=46
marius.
Andy Farnell wrote:
> Any feedback appreciated (aesthetic criticism most welcome) on
> some designs done in Pd.
>
> http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/sounds/effect-synthetic-thunder-21.mp3
> http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/sounds/effect-synthetic-thunder-34.mp3
> http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/sounds/effect-synthetic-thunder-57.mp3
>
> If anyone has a copy of these papers I would be very grateful.
> I can't afford to pay the gatekeepers of knowledge.
>
> H. E Bass, Propagation of Thunder Through the Atmosphere
> Acoust.soc. Am. 67, 1959-1966 (1980)
>
> A.A. Few, "Acoustic Radiations from Lightning" CRC Handbook of
> Atmospherics, pp. 257-290. Vol. 2, edited by H. Volland (1982)
>
> H.L. Brode, The Blast Wave in Air Resulting from a High Temperature
> High Pressure Sphere of Air" Res. Mem. RM-1825-AEC, The Rand
> Corporation, SantaMonica, CA {1956).
>
>
> I am working with Ribner and Roy and Angelo Farinas papers right now,
> kindly given to me by another researcher.
>
>
> cheers,
> Andy
>
>
> _
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Re: [PD] New on ubuntu: where to go now
Yvan, > That's why you should NOT download the package from the website! > > If you're using ubuntu studio, you can just type > > > sudo apt-get install pd > > and all dependencies will be installed automatically. > > Regards, > > yvan > Maybe so for Vanilla. Was pd-extended also available from Ubuntu repositories? -- David Shimaoto ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [OT] New machine - sound hardware?
Hi all,
Been off the list - overworked and ill...
So, after my laptop was stolen, I bought a new one. But really a new one, so
now I have some serious problems...
Technically this does what I need in every way but sound hardware. Two
instances of PD use seperate processors of the CPU, so sound and PDP can run in
two PDs ;~) Well, The audio latency is 280ms and I still get dropouts. Damn you
Dell ;-{
BUT - there is no PCMCIA cardbus slot. Only a new expresscard slot, which might
become useful given a year or two. Of course I am hoping that there is a
solution to my audio hardware problems, so I ask a few questions now.
1. Has anyone a working firewire (ieee1394) interface with their laptop that
runs with low latency (<16ms, MIDI in to audio out) under Linux with PD? What
is it and what driver (ffado? freeBoB?)
2. What MIDI interface under Ubuntu? I have tried and tried again to get a
Midisport 2x2 working with both the source code (both versions - 0.5 and 1.2)
and the Ubuntu packages - no luck!
3. USB audio interface? I know this is a long shot...ALSA has never worked with
PD on any computer I have owned.
There is also the expresscard interface - for which their are only two
soundcards AFAIK - Creative X-Fi (support has been dropped, and no source code
available) and Universal Audio X-Pander (I can't afford it, and there's no
Linux support as yet).
So, are there any really good reports of successful hardware/linux
combinations? I really think we and the rest of the Linux community need to
crack this. I'm not a good enough software developer to write drivers and I
don't have much time right now*, but the best hardware is firewire these days,
and RME don't make a PCMCIA expresscard interface.
Searching the archives lead me to few emails, one success with freeBoB and an
Edirol interface was the only optimism I found. PD under Linux has become
pretty much useless with this new computer - dropouts everywhere. (PS, Window$
Vista is the operating system that stops you operating, and is bad with every
audio program I have found).
But as the old computers die, we'll be left with these machines with their
altered hardware configuration. It's getting harder and harder to run PD on new
hardware.
Best,
Ed
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Re: [PD] >~ signal greater than
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 13:02 -0500, marius schebella wrote: > hey, > with the latest autobuild of pd-extended for macosx intel (20080117) and > also with previous versions the signal comparators of zexy can't be > created. I also don't see them in the zexy external folder. > what is the trick to get them running? > marius. afaik, you could either install zexy as a library, or, if you want to stick with the libdir format, you could load the hexloader external ( written by IOhannes m zmölnig), which enables loading files by their hexnames. the latter is what i use. i don't know how much work it would need to make it working in pd-extended as well, but it would be nice, to have hexloader there as well. AFAIK, there are some posts about this subject in the list. probably you'll find some more detailed information about it. roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd thunder
Any feedback appreciated (aesthetic criticism most welcome) on
some designs done in Pd.
http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/sounds/effect-synthetic-thunder-21.mp3
http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/sounds/effect-synthetic-thunder-34.mp3
http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/sounds/effect-synthetic-thunder-57.mp3
If anyone has a copy of these papers I would be very grateful.
I can't afford to pay the gatekeepers of knowledge.
H. E Bass, Propagation of Thunder Through the Atmosphere
Acoust.soc. Am. 67, 1959-1966 (1980)
A.A. Few, "Acoustic Radiations from Lightning" CRC Handbook of
Atmospherics, pp. 257-290. Vol. 2, edited by H. Volland (1982)
H.L. Brode, The Blast Wave in Air Resulting from a High Temperature
High Pressure Sphere of Air" Res. Mem. RM-1825-AEC, The Rand
Corporation, SantaMonica, CA {1956).
I am working with Ribner and Roy and Angelo Farinas papers right now,
kindly given to me by another researcher.
cheers,
Andy
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Re: [PD] overall horrible performance in OS X
About the iTunes EQ, that is really funny. I just profiled PD while running the example patch, and you're right (see example 1 below). Using "Instruments" showed similar results, + a _lot_ of time spent microsleeping. Do you find that the CPU load scales well in large patches, disregarding the 10% overhead? --Example 1--: # Report 0 - Session 2 - Time Profile of pd.mshark - Time Profile of pd SharkProfileViewer # Generated from the visible portion of the outline view - 13.5% DspFuncOrgEQ::_EQBoth(float*, float*, unsigned long, unsigned long) (com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib) - 8.8% ml_set_interrupts_enabled (mach_kernel) - 6.8% SInt32ToFloat32 (com.apple.driver.AppleHDA) 2.6% lo_mach_scall (mach_kernel) - 2.3% DspFuncDRC::_dynamicRangeControl(float*, float*, unsigned long, unsigned long) (com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib) - 1.8% tabread4_tilde_perform (pd) - 1.4% __spin_lock (commpage [libSystem.B.dylib]) - 1.3% DspFuncCrossover::processWithSpecificBuff(float*, unsigned long) (com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib) - 1.3% AUGenericOutputEntry (CoreAudio) - 1.1% mutex_lock (mach_kernel) - 1.1% iokit_user_client_trap (mach_kernel) - 1.0% DspFuncOrgEQ::_equalizer(float*, float*, unsigned long) (com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib) - 1.0% DspFuncVolume::process(unsigned long, unsigned long) (com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib) - 1.0% __memcpy (commpage [libSystem.B.dylib]) - 0.9% OSMetaClassBase::safeMetaCast(OSMetaClassBase const*, OSMetaC On Feb 4, 2008, at 12:56 PM, chris clepper wrote: On Feb 4, 2008 11:16 AM, bsoisoi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've attached an example patch "sample-test-01.pd" and it's dependencies. On my dual core 2.4ghz Macbook Pro (4gb ram, 10.5.1, pd extended 40.3-2007-12-07), I hit 21-27% cpu load On the Macbook 'Pro' 1.83 I have here the CPU time is never above 10% and all of that time is spent in the driver - I bet you didn't know the Apple drivers always apply the iTunes graphic EQ effect to the output did you? Your problem might be simply having the latest Macbook with its unbelievably shitty drivers. The Apple written drivers have gotten really bad lately - try to stick with ATI GPUs just to avoid Apple's in house Nvidia drivers for example. The wireless drops connections with perfect reception and the audio sucks a lot of CPU pointlessly. Maybe use Bootcamp for Pd? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sound for blender apricot opensource game
Sorry I've completely mixed up the Apricot project with the Peach project!! Duh! Please ignore my ramblings. The game could probably do with some SFX, but as Roman and Marius point out they've made a design decision on CS engine and proposing procedural Pd audio would no doubt be disruptive to the established sound team and their goals. Let's see what the Blender foundation come up with over the next months. If anyone is closely involved please keep us informed. Thankyou, Andy On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:53:26 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I agree, and have more or less reached the stage where I could sound design > an entire small film in Pd. > > Time is obviously a factor and if I were to do this it would really need > a few other volunteers who were enthusiastic about it (sound design for > such a feature could be a challenging project) > > Anyway, what stuck me was something (I think it was) Dan James said about > Elephants Dream; - that despite the visuals being entirely FOSS > the soundtrack had to employ Windows/non-free components because of a > lack of reliable sound tools and skills. That reflects on us all rather > badly of course. > > Let's say the Blender Apricot team were amenable to the idea and we could > reach a concensus to using the new film as a vehicle to showcase Pd, would > anybody > else like to be involved in a sound design team using Pd 0.40 on 64Studio with > a Python interface to the event stream? Or maybe Lua would be our > timeline/event glue. > > I am of course open to other suggestions or to supporting another > team with radically different ideas, but this is how it would work best for > me. > > andy > > > > This sounds like a great opportunity for Pd, especially considering > > that Pd is the sound engine in the game Spore. > > .hc > > On Feb 1, 2008, at 7:09 PM, olme wrote: > > > seeing this: http://apricot.blender.org/?p=59 , I had the idea that > > somebody could do it efficiently with generated sound dezign (like > > brilliantly discussed earlier here by andy - obiwannabe.co.uk ) > > > > In short : Blender Instituut search for a sound designer for the > > upcoming opensource game codenamed "apricot". > > > > I'm in no way related to this instituut or project, just that I > > thought > > it could interrest someone that is developping on pd for games, as > > this > > one is already promised some exposure in the opensource/free software > > world, in the CGI world (with the short film produced right now : see > > peach.blender.org ) and in the game world (it will surely make some > > lines in game magasines) ... > > > > I think those working for this project "in the front line" are > > payed, so > > it could be a good incentive to have some kind of opensource > > exemple of > > a current game made with pd. > > > > Blender Game Engine has already been used with pd through py-OSC, but > > this project use the CrystalSpace Game Engine... I don't know about > > the > > connectivity, but as CS use python, it's maybe just some lines > > away > > > > I would be interrested to see the result anyway ... as I'm not able to > > do it myself ... > > > > Ol.me > > http://www.ogeem.be > > > > ___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > > listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is > publicity. - Bill Moyers > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] >~ signal greater than
hey, with the latest autobuild of pd-extended for macosx intel (20080117) and also with previous versions the signal comparators of zexy can't be created. I also don't see them in the zexy external folder. what is the trick to get them running? marius. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] overall horrible performance in OS X
On Feb 4, 2008 11:16 AM, bsoisoi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've attached an example patch "sample-test-01.pd" and it's > dependencies. On my dual core 2.4ghz Macbook Pro (4gb ram, 10.5.1, pd > extended 40.3-2007-12-07), I hit 21-27% cpu load On the Macbook 'Pro' 1.83 I have here the CPU time is never above 10% and all of that time is spent in the driver - I bet you didn't know the Apple drivers always apply the iTunes graphic EQ effect to the output did you? Your problem might be simply having the latest Macbook with its unbelievably shitty drivers. The Apple written drivers have gotten really bad lately - try to stick with ATI GPUs just to avoid Apple's in house Nvidia drivers for example. The wireless drops connections with perfect reception and the audio sucks a lot of CPU pointlessly. Maybe use Bootcamp for Pd? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] optional argument in abstraction
ah, I thought you want to print "defaul_symbol" and not "symbol default_symbol", that's why all the extra stuff around. > great! the [sel $1] did the trick. otoh, the route symbol does not do > anything... here is what I ended up using... > > [loadbang] > | > [symbol $1] > | > [sel $1] > | | > | [default_symbol( > / > | / > |/ > [symbol $1] > | > [print] > > thanks, marius. > > > João Miguel Pais wrote: >> here's a dirty one, but works. >> >>> hi, >>> I want to create an abstraction that can take an optional symbol as >>> argument. >>> if there is a symbol argument then use this, if not then use a default >>> symbol. >>> >>> for example >>> [my_print hello_world!] >>> would print "hello_world!" >>> >>> [my_print] >>> (without argument) would print "default_text" >>> >>> [my_print 0] or [my_print 123] would also print "default_text". >>> >>> I tried all variations of route, select, list trim, but could not get >>> it >>> to work. maybe I forgot something. or maybe there is another trick. I >>> am >>> using 0.40. >>> marius. >>> >>> ___ >>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin Deutschland Tel +49 30 42020091 Mob +49 162 6843570 [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jmmmpjmmmp http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp IBM Thinkpad R51, XP, Pd-Ext-0.39-2-t5, Pd Van 0.40-t2 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] FOSS audio tools
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: > Frank Barknecht wrote: > > Uhm, while Blender certainly is great, you aren't seriously trying to > > tell me you really think its shortcuts are intuitive, are you?!? ;-) > > how do you want to manage hundreds of commands intuitively? I would say > camera rotation is intuitive. Vi is more intuitive. ;) Anyway I never said that Blender's shortcuts were unnecessary or that the should be done in a different way. My point is: If someone can understand Blender's GUI he should have no problems understanding Ardours or any other audio editors GUIs, because these are all much simpler. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] FOSS audio tools (was: sound for blender apricot opensource game)
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 12:51 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: > OTOH, LADSPA plugins don't > support customized guis, AFAIK, therefor there is no option to do > something like jamin as a LADSPA plugin. IMHO, most LADSPA plugins might > be good scientific applications, but definitely not for everyday studio > work (no visual feedback, strange scales of parameters). But of course customised GUIs have been available via DSSI (an extension of LADSPA) since 2004, and LV2 (LADSPA version 2) now provides infrastructure for GUIs, units etc. (http://lv2plug.in/) Jamie -- www.postlude.co.uk ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] fftease for macosx universal?
hi punchnik, you can find it here (its an attachment towards the bottom of the thread) http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-1280-fftease-39 use the original help files from the ppc package I guess this should be made available on the original FFTease page, though I'm not sure why it isn't...Maybe it fries your computer golden ;-) S On 3 Feb 2008, at 03:01, punchik punchik wrote: > hello...do anybody have compiled fftease for macosx? i > have the old fftease for ppc but it doesnt work here. > > where can i found it? > > thanks > p. > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] New on ubuntu: where to go now
João Miguel Pais wrote: > Hi, > > I'm, again, going to try to step into linux world, and see if I can do > something more useful with it than visiting webforums this time. > Great! > How to get -1ms latency? Does > Ubuntu studio makes a difference? Ubuntu studio has more audio packages to choose from. More-over, it has a realtime kernel. (For the next version, they're also working on a tickless kernel. That should give you lower latency. > Why is jack so complicated to start? It's not :-) Seriously, Jack is hard to setup, but once you've figured that out, you can use the jack control panel, which is quite easy. If you have trouble with that, just ask. (I'll be away until the end of the week though.) > Is > ardour already working? (last time I saw it in the school's studio, the > only way to have a session open for a long time was not to touch it) ... > > Ardour is working really good these days, it's said. Have not used it myself yet. > I'm not a beginner with computers, but I'm not yet very at ease in unix > console, because quite soon it gets very frustrating - although I would > like to learn, but don't have time to be spending on man pages. And I > don't do emacs, or won't go straight to debian. > Open configuration files in gedit. If you start it with sudo, you can save changes to your system configuration. Regards and good luck, yvan ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] New on ubuntu: where to go now
PSPunch wrote: > Hi, > > > I mainly use Ubuntu Studio 7.10 myself and figured I > might have something to share. > > > -- > Debian/testing and Ubuntu Gutsy (Intel i386 processor) > installs fine. > > Download it from, > http://puredata.info/downloads > > it is the 3rd on the list. > > With Ubuntu 7.10, just double click on the downloaded file > and the system will do the rest of the installation. > > > -- > When launching PD, I recall the console claiming that > certain libraries were missing. > You can use "Synaptic package manager" from the pull-down > menu to search and install packages with associating names. > > > That's why you should NOT download the package from the website! If you're using ubuntu studio, you can just type > sudo apt-get install pd and all dependencies will be installed automatically. Regards, yvan ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
