Re: [PD] Another interface suggestion
On 01/04/2008, at 2.24, danomatika wrote: Another thing occurred to me as far as ui. When I'm editing subpatches I sometimes lose the window and have this habit of clicking on the subpatch object in the parent window and when nothing happens, I remember it's already open. I would be great if pd would bring that open window to the forefront as if it had been selected in the window list. Thats interesting. It behaves as you'd like on MacOSX. I made a wiki pages where we maybe could document those small cross platform differences: http://puredata.info/dev/GUIPlatformDifferences It kind of glue to the GUI Ideas wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/ GuiIdeas ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] delread~ [was: Re: declare]
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: it was just an idea... that way you will not have the problem of the one block delay of delread~. First: If you sort the delread~ before the delwrite~ you will always have one block of delay. But anyway: Automatic sorting of delread/delwrite doesn't solve the problem you talk about: For feedback delays you want to have the delread before the delwrite, for non-feedback delay lines you want to the delwrite before the delread. Again, please read the delay chapter in Miller's book for a detailed explanation: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/latest/book-html/node120.html Ciao -- Frank Barknecht Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: [[btw. can't we use that method to have all delread~ saved and loaded at the beginning of a patch?]] Why t.h. would you want that?!? Ciao ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Hexloader on Mac/Intel was Re: mtx_* and similar on OS X
Hi, thanks for your response... i manages to get mtx_~ running by loading mtx_mul~first... i was just wondering, about the hexloader external.. i read in the archice that there were some issues, taht it didnt work any more in more recet releases does it work with pd 41-4 on a macbook ? I couldnt find it in svn quite strange thanks luigi Am 31.03.2008 um 01:51 schrieb marius schebella: I am not 100% sure, but i think you need a library called hexloader to load these objects. (should load on startup with pd-extended. then mtx_* will know that it has to load äh... I think you can also try mtx_mul. marius. Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Hi List i can imagine this was asked before.. i am on OSX and i was trying to go through pdmtl-abstractions i cam across the mtx_* object which cannot be loaded...because it appears as somethin like - --- how do i know which one is which this question might concern many other libs i guess... even ~ or something might not load because of a similar issue bye Luigi - --- ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Best PD+OS/Hardware combinations for low audio latency?
So far, in Windows: I tried setting the priority to Realtime in the Task Manager and setting the buffer size to smaller in the Control Panel settings for the Edirol soundcard, but could only get the delay in PD's audio settings down to 40 ms. Anything below that destroys the sound (in a bad way). that is a known issue ... pd is using pablio on osx and windo$, which is unable to achieve decent latencies ... the devel_ branch contained a workaround for that, not sure about the recent vanilla release ... I'll try the linux suggestions next... good idea, the pd's audio driver access on linux is not as broken as on other platforms ... t -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.klingt.org Silence is only frightening to people who are compulsively verbalizing. William S. Burroughs ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Another interface suggestion
Hallo, Steffen Juul hat gesagt: // Steffen Juul wrote: On 01/04/2008, at 2.24, danomatika wrote: Another thing occurred to me as far as ui. When I'm editing subpatches I sometimes lose the window and have this habit of clicking on the subpatch object in the parent window and when nothing happens, I remember it's already open. I would be great if pd would bring that open window to the forefront as if it had been selected in the window list. Thats interesting. It behaves as you'd like on MacOSX. I made a wiki pages where we maybe could document those small cross platform differences: http://puredata.info/dev/GUIPlatformDifferences Subpatches also come to the front on Linux, when clicking the [pd] object, at least with Blackbox. Maybe it depends on the window manager configuration. -- Frank Barkncht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Best PD+OS/Hardware combinations for low audio latency?
Have you tried running Pd using Jack osx and Jack mode? I can get latency down to 7ms without crackles - this is on a meager old g4 powerbook best On 1 Apr 2008, at 09:18, Tim Blechmann wrote: So far, in Windows: I tried setting the priority to Realtime in the Task Manager and setting the buffer size to smaller in the Control Panel settings for the Edirol soundcard, but could only get the delay in PD's audio settings down to 40 ms. Anything below that destroys the sound (in a bad way). that is a known issue ... pd is using pablio on osx and windo$, which is unable to achieve decent latencies ... the devel_ branch contained a workaround for that, not sure about the recent vanilla release ... I'll try the linux suggestions next... good idea, the pd's audio driver access on linux is not as broken as on other platforms ... t -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.klingt.org Silence is only frightening to people who are compulsively verbalizing. William S. Burroughs ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Another interface suggestion
Hi, subpatches are opening on the top in openbox, but file open dialog, quit and close confirmation messages are opening on the top of Pd console. If console is hidden under, is quite difficult to find it. It is good habbit to have iconsole on eyes anyway, but can imagine how frustrating can be searching that little message under lots of openned windows. This brings people on bad habbit : using all the time Ctrl+Shift+w or Ctrl+Shift+q. Dangerous. CtrlAltBack -- |||Ctrl + Alt + Back||| |||restart your view||| On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 10:49:31AM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Steffen Juul hat gesagt: // Steffen Juul wrote: On 01/04/2008, at 2.24, danomatika wrote: Another thing occurred to me as far as ui. When I'm editing subpatches I sometimes lose the window and have this habit of clicking on the subpatch object in the parent window and when nothing happens, I remember it's already open. I would be great if pd would bring that open window to the forefront as if it had been selected in the window list. Thats interesting. It behaves as you'd like on MacOSX. I made a wiki pages where we maybe could document those small cross platform differences: http://puredata.info/dev/GUIPlatformDifferences Subpatches also come to the front on Linux, when clicking the [pd] object, at least with Blackbox. Maybe it depends on the window manager configuration. -- Frank Barkncht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Best PD+OS/Hardware combinations for low audio latency?
Have you tried running Pd using Jack osx and Jack mode? pd's jack backend should perform way better than the coreaudio backend ... I can get latency down to 7ms without crackles - this is on a meager old g4 powerbook 7ms measured round-trip or setting in pd's audio dialog (which is merely a suggestion for the driver and iirc is completely ignored by the jack backend) tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.klingt.org Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere Amiri Baraka signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Best PD+OS/Hardware combinations for low audio latency?
7ms measured round-trip or setting in pd's audio dialog (which is merely a suggestion for the driver and iirc is completely ignored by the jack backend) well i set the buffer size in Jack prefs and let Pd follow suit. But either way its just better :) tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.klingt.org Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere Amiri Baraka ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Google SoC: call for mentors and project ideas
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Mar 31, 2008, at 12:03 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: (of course you could copy the text from the text-editor view within pd to your favourite editor and vice-versa; which would give a fast (and always available) editor (e.g. for simple edits); but it might be easier to implement just the global clipboard) I think there is room for both, plus Kzrysztof already has a built-in editor implemented. I think the built-in editor would be good for quick, small edits. yes, that was the conclusion i came to when writing the email. fmgasdr. IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Another interface suggestion
Ctrl Alt Back wrote: Hi, subpatches are opening on the top in openbox, but file open dialog, quit and close confirmation messages are opening on the top of Pd console. If console is hidden under, is quite difficult to find it. that is actually a problem (or feature) of your window manager. at least in kde you can configure it to bring the modal dialog to the foreground (though i keep forgetting where you have to set it) it should be possible with whatever window-manager you are using. fgmasdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdp_colorgrid bug
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Lluis, Good to hear that you're working on these objects, they are very valuable contributions that with a little more polish will really round out Pd's capabilities. As for updating this, I think pdp_colorgrid is currently part of Yves' pidip code directories. the new version of colorgrid doesn't need anymore to bundle the image (colorgrid.pnm) file in the package, but it introduces a new dependency to the tk-img library, and i don't know of the availability of this library on every platform, for now i'm sure it's not listed in pd's dependencies... not sure it's the way to go. second, when you build pidip from source, it defines the path to that image as : #define COLORGRID_IMG PWD/patches/images/colorgrid.pnm that insure a compiled PIDIP will find the image.. when it's build in extended, i don't know which path should be given here, as i don't know of a standard path for shared files in pd-extended, well, basically the simplest thing is to put the right path here in SVN, and pidip will keep its way of compiling it. saludos, sevy ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] flashing a bng without making it send?
Steffen Leve Poulsen skrev: matteo sisti sette skrev: Hi, Is there a way to make a [bng] visually flash (the same it does when you click it or send it a bang) WITHOUT making it output/send a bang? Hi, Mattteo you can use: [t a b] || |[visual bang here] [route bang] see attached! slp #N canvas 546 246 567 387 10; #X obj 74 71 t a b; #X obj 101 101 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 74 140 route bang; #X obj 74 194 outlet; #X obj 74 44 inlet; #X obj 131 195 outlet; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 0 1 1 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 2 1 5 0; #X connect 4 0 0 0; #X coords 0 -1 1 1 17 17 2 100 100; #N canvas 511 246 466 316 10; #X obj 104 84 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X msg 126 83 set; #X obj 104 202 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X floatatom 157 81 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X msg 197 81 skudatest; #X msg 267 81 1 2 7; #X obj 149 200 print; #X floatatom 115 183 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 189 158 bang-set; #X obj 104 152 bang-set; #X obj 219 158 bang-set; #X connect 0 0 9 0; #X connect 1 0 9 0; #X connect 3 0 9 0; #X connect 4 0 9 0; #X connect 5 0 9 0; #X connect 7 0 6 0; #X connect 9 0 2 0; #X connect 9 0 7 0; #X connect 9 1 6 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Reminder: PD VideoPedia
Hmm, is this shared account a way of getting around the problem of copyright transfer? Anyone know of a CC/FLOSS utube like thing? (other than the prelinger archives) .b. giucant wrote: Dear all, you are invited to add contents to PureDataVideopedia channel on YouTube. You can upload original stuff (performances, visuals, tutorials, workshops...) or manage other youtube videos in playlists. http://it.youtube.com/PureDataVideopedia http://it.youtube.com/profile_play_list?user=PureDataVideopedia user: PureDataVideopedia pass: puredata Actually we have 31 subscribers and 27 friends. Greetings from Milano! j ___ Scopri il Blog di Yahoo! Mail: trucchi, novità, consigli... e la tua opinione! http://www.ymailblogit.com/blog/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] dsp... messages into inlets (!!!)
Hi, This must have been discussed in the list before, but I couldn't find anything in the archives because it's difficult to generate a meaningful set of keywords for this.. In a merely fortuitous way, I found out that if you send a message starting with the keyword dsp into an inlet of a subpatch or abstraction, it is not passed through the inlet. Attached is an example, i.e.: [ ( | [pd mysubpatch] where the subpatch contains: [inlet] | [print] If you write dsp something in the message and click it, the message won't be printed (while any other message will) It seems like the inlet itself catches it... I don't know what [inlet] is supposed to do with messages starting with dsp. I thought it may perhaps switch~ off the subpatch, but it doesn't. Is this a bug or a feature? Is it documented somewhere? Thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.matteosistisette.com #N canvas 667 288 450 300 12; #N canvas 689 62 450 300 mysubpatch 0; #X obj 169 51 inlet; #X obj 169 96 print DATA; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X restore 147 184 pd mysubpatch; #X msg 80 124 1 2 3; #X msg 120 92 bla bla bla; #X msg 153 148 dsp 1; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 0 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dsp... messages into inlets (!!!)
This is not a good answer for you but you can use this solution to send the message |dsp 1(. (see the patch). ++ Jack inlet_dsp_messages2B.pd Description: Binary data Le 1 avr. 08 à 18:05, matteo sisti sette a écrit : Hi, This must have been discussed in the list before, but I couldn't find anything in the archives because it's difficult to generate a meaningful set of keywords for this.. In a merely fortuitous way, I found out that if you send a message starting with the keyword dsp into an inlet of a subpatch or abstraction, it is not passed through the inlet. Attached is an example, i.e.: [ ( | [pd mysubpatch] where the subpatch contains: [inlet] | [print] If you write dsp something in the message and click it, the message won't be printed (while any other message will) It seems like the inlet itself catches it... I don't know what [inlet] is supposed to do with messages starting with dsp. I thought it may perhaps switch~ off the subpatch, but it doesn't. Is this a bug or a feature? Is it documented somewhere? Thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:// www.matteosistisette.cominlet_dsp_messages2.pd__ _ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dsp... messages into inlets (!!!)
Oops! I'm using dsp for objects to intercommunicate, but I had meant to protect anyone from stumbling on it. Obviously I missed something. I can suggest many possible workarounds, but will get around to fixing this someday. cheers Miller On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 06:05:37PM +0200, matteo sisti sette wrote: Hi, This must have been discussed in the list before, but I couldn't find anything in the archives because it's difficult to generate a meaningful set of keywords for this.. In a merely fortuitous way, I found out that if you send a message starting with the keyword dsp into an inlet of a subpatch or abstraction, it is not passed through the inlet. Attached is an example, i.e.: [ ( | [pd mysubpatch] where the subpatch contains: [inlet] | [print] If you write dsp something in the message and click it, the message won't be printed (while any other message will) It seems like the inlet itself catches it... I don't know what [inlet] is supposed to do with messages starting with dsp. I thought it may perhaps switch~ off the subpatch, but it doesn't. Is this a bug or a feature? Is it documented somewhere? Thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.matteosistisette.com #N canvas 667 288 450 300 12; #N canvas 689 62 450 300 mysubpatch 0; #X obj 169 51 inlet; #X obj 169 96 print DATA; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X restore 147 184 pd mysubpatch; #X msg 80 124 1 2 3; #X msg 120 92 bla bla bla; #X msg 153 148 dsp 1; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 0 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dsp... messages into inlets (!!!)
Miller Puckette wrote: Oops! I'm using dsp for objects to intercommunicate, but I had meant to protect anyone from stumbling on it. Obviously I missed something. the really bad thing is (as indicated in my other mail): [dsp( | [+~] weird that i _never_ stumbled across this, even though it was so obvious! fgmasdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dsp... messages into inlets (!!!)
Jack wrote This is not a good answer for you but you can use this solution to send the message |dsp 1(. Miller wrote: I can suggest many possible workarounds, but will get around to fixing this someday. Thank you both; don't worry for solutions/workarounds: I wasn't using this message very extensively so it was trivial to work it around without need for an especially elegant or general solution: I just changed the message. The difficult part was to figure out what the hell was going on :) I was simply curious to know whether it was a known/unknown bug or an undocumented feature. Thanks again. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Hidden folders in PD open/save dialog
would be very nice if pd used the open dialog of the current system (like gnome open dialog under gnome, windows under windows, etc...) as i have many links to my favorite places on the left side of the gnome open dialog, it would speed things up a lot! and of course, i bet everyone wants to hide those hidden files :) i have no idea if this is technically possible, i would assume in the worst case (besides not possible at all) we would use some bindings... but for every system ? is there an universal open dialog api ? ;) .andre ps. under linux we could also use zenity --file-selection (or similar) http://directory.fsf.org/project/zenity/ and heres something found in the tcl/tk wiki http://wiki.tcl.tk/15897 On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 11:45 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This would be huge, it would greatly help the newbies. In workshops, a lot of people had trouble with those open/save panels. There are quite a few apps written with Tcl/Tk for GNU/Linux, so I am sure we are not the first to want this feature. I would be very surprised if another Tcl/Tk app hasn't solved this already. I have had good luck with the #tcl room. .hc On Mar 30, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: This would be a Good Thing ... I wasn't of the impression it would be easy to do though. I've been assuming that would necessitate writing, and then having to maintain, a whole new open dialog widget. If there's a smarter way to do it I'd love to know about it. cheers Miller On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 03:25:00PM -0500, Daniel Wilcox wrote: Ok, Here's another todo for Linux I am willing to solve, along with drag and drop and better desktop integration: hidden folders in the file browser. PD defaults to the home folder of the current user, which is full of hidden folders (.foldername) which are naturally listed fist. This means that every time I go to open or save something I have to scroll the little browser window past these (non-)hidden folders to my visible folders. Yeah, I know, its a small thing, but I always find it annoying. This is something that other applications which use the GTK-gnome file browser handle and hitting Ctrl-H toggles hidden file display. I don't have a huge signal processing background, so I'll try and help in my own way :P. -- Dan Wilcox danomatika www.robotcowboy.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pix_mix flicker
Hi, when I use pix_mix with video or live input I have to do strange rendering order to avoid flicker. (see attached patch) I have to render the left inlet before the right, although the left inlet triggers. if I do it the other way round then I get occasional flicker. anybody has similar problems? (os x, gem from march 29). marius. #N canvas 671 22 489 589 10; #X obj 114 364 hsl 128 15 0 1 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 112 387 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 41 464 rectangle 4 3; #X obj 41 437 pix_texture; #X obj 279 140 bng 25 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 279 169 openpanel; #X msg 279 193 open \$1; #X obj 52 267 pix_video; #X msg 52 244 dimen 320 240; #X obj 52 224 loadbang; #X obj 224 268 pix_film; #X obj 124 162 t a a; #X obj 41 386 pix_mix; #X obj 42 69 gemwin; #X msg 42 48 create \, 1; #X obj 287 244 loadbang; #X msg 287 268 auto 1; #X obj 124 137 gemhead; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 12 2; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 10 0; #X connect 7 0 12 1; #X connect 8 0 7 0; #X connect 9 0 8 0; #X connect 10 0 12 0; #X connect 11 0 7 0; #X connect 11 1 10 0; #X connect 12 0 3 0; #X connect 14 0 13 0; #X connect 15 0 16 0; #X connect 16 0 10 0; #X connect 17 0 11 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_mix flicker
I don't have any flickering here. Try putting pix_film on the left and see if that makes any difference. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:32 PM, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, when I use pix_mix with video or live input I have to do strange rendering order to avoid flicker. (see attached patch) I have to render the left inlet before the right, although the left inlet triggers. if I do it the other way round then I get occasional flicker. anybody has similar problems? (os x, gem from march 29). marius. #N canvas 671 22 489 589 10; #X obj 114 364 hsl 128 15 0 1 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 112 387 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 41 464 rectangle 4 3; #X obj 41 437 pix_texture; #X obj 279 140 bng 25 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 279 169 openpanel; #X msg 279 193 open \$1; #X obj 52 267 pix_video; #X msg 52 244 dimen 320 240; #X obj 52 224 loadbang; #X obj 224 268 pix_film; #X obj 124 162 t a a; #X obj 41 386 pix_mix; #X obj 42 69 gemwin; #X msg 42 48 create \, 1; #X obj 287 244 loadbang; #X msg 287 268 auto 1; #X obj 124 137 gemhead; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 12 2; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 10 0; #X connect 7 0 12 1; #X connect 8 0 7 0; #X connect 9 0 8 0; #X connect 10 0 12 0; #X connect 11 0 7 0; #X connect 11 1 10 0; #X connect 12 0 3 0; #X connect 14 0 13 0; #X connect 15 0 16 0; #X connect 16 0 10 0; #X connect 17 0 11 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_mix flicker
Hi chris, when I use the pix_film on the left side, then I don't get flicker. I attach now the patch that was NOT working for me: (I am using a builtin iSight camera.) marius. #N canvas 671 22 489 589 10; #X obj 114 364 hsl 128 15 0 1 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 9700 1; #X floatatom 112 387 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 41 464 rectangle 4 3; #X obj 41 437 pix_texture; #X obj 200 172 bng 25 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 200 201 openpanel; #X msg 200 225 open \$1; #X obj 39 298 pix_video; #X msg 39 275 dimen 320 240; #X obj 39 255 loadbang; #X obj 174 303 pix_film; #X obj 124 162 t a a; #X obj 41 386 pix_mix; #X obj 42 69 gemwin; #X msg 42 48 create \, 1; #X obj 221 254 loadbang; #X msg 221 278 auto 1; #X obj 124 137 gemhead; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 12 2; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 10 0; #X connect 7 0 12 0; #X connect 8 0 7 0; #X connect 9 0 8 0; #X connect 10 0 12 1; #X connect 11 0 7 0; #X connect 11 1 10 0; #X connect 12 0 3 0; #X connect 14 0 13 0; #X connect 15 0 16 0; #X connect 16 0 10 0; #X connect 17 0 11 0; chris clepper wrote: I don't have any flickering here. Try putting pix_film on the left and see if that makes any difference. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:32 PM, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, when I use pix_mix with video or live input I have to do strange rendering order to avoid flicker. (see attached patch) I have to render the left inlet before the right, although the left inlet triggers. if I do it the other way round then I get occasional flicker. anybody has similar problems? (os x, gem from march 29). marius. #N canvas 671 22 489 589 10; #X obj 114 364 hsl 128 15 0 1 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 112 387 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 41 464 rectangle 4 3; #X obj 41 437 pix_texture; #X obj 279 140 bng 25 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 279 169 openpanel; #X msg 279 193 open \$1; #X obj 52 267 pix_video; #X msg 52 244 dimen 320 240; #X obj 52 224 loadbang; #X obj 224 268 pix_film; #X obj 124 162 t a a; #X obj 41 386 pix_mix; #X obj 42 69 gemwin; #X msg 42 48 create \, 1; #X obj 287 244 loadbang; #X msg 287 268 auto 1; #X obj 124 137 gemhead; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 12 2; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 10 0; #X connect 7 0 12 1; #X connect 8 0 7 0; #X connect 9 0 8 0; #X connect 10 0 12 0; #X connect 11 0 7 0; #X connect 11 1 10 0; #X connect 12 0 3 0; #X connect 14 0 13 0; #X connect 15 0 16 0; #X connect 16 0 10 0; #X connect 17 0 11 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailto:PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Reminder: PD VideoPedia
Hallo, B. Bogart hat gesagt: // B. Bogart wrote: Hmm, is this shared account a way of getting around the problem of copyright transfer? Anyone know of a CC/FLOSS utube like thing? (other than the prelinger archives) Why not put this on puredata.info? All that's needed is a flash video player, which is available as Open SOurce like the one on archive.org, and you can convert avis to flv with ffmpeg or mencoder. Additionally it would be cool to have the higher bandwith versions for easy downloaded. We would miss the stumble upon stuff on YouTube effect, though. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Best PD+OS/Hardware combinations for low audio latency?
with asio on windows vista and a phonic firewire console I can set pd buffer size to 4ms without sound crackles, and obviously the driver buffer is set to 2ms, like I said before, again, the soundcard driver must be half the size of pd buffer or less. Jack on windows isn't available yet. Tim Blechmann a écrit : Have you tried running Pd using Jack osx and Jack mode? pd's jack backend should perform way better than the coreaudio backend ... I can get latency down to 7ms without crackles - this is on a meager old g4 powerbook 7ms measured round-trip or setting in pd's audio dialog (which is merely a suggestion for the driver and iirc is completely ignored by the jack backend) tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.klingt.org Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere Amiri Baraka ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Another interface suggestion
Ctrl Alt Back a écrit : Hi, subpatches are opening on the top in openbox, but file open dialog, quit and close confirmation messages are opening on the top of Pd console. If console is hidden under, is quite difficult to find it. It is good habbit to have iconsole on eyes anyway, but can imagine how frustrating can be searching that little message under lots of openned windows. This brings people on bad habbit : using all the time Ctrl+Shift+w or Ctrl+Shift+q. Dangerous. CtrlAltBack Hello, there is also Alt+tab, but yeah it's quite annoying, a patch browser would resolve this problem, we wouldn't have to use the dialog boxes and would be able to navigate through parents and children patchers. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Cannot filter list by content on time
Hi All, I'm very sorry, this has almost certainly been brought up more than once, and I'm very bad at this, I've been playing around with Pd for a while just for non-critical applications like making fun little noise machines and stuff, but I though I'd give a serious project a go, and I have - but it's not going well...I'm trying to filter some sysexdata, and I'm trying to keep my patch to only the standard modules, although if there is one which will do this straight up then I'll probably happily take it! So the input I'm getting in goes along the lines of: 240 2 0 0 0...247, I've managed to package up all the incoming stream of data from the Sysex in (on OS X) so that bit is fine - I'm trying to filter the information based on some of the content - specifically the third item in the list (and then later the 5th item, but the problem and process is the same.) In the example, each of the messages at the top represents some incoming data The message 240 2 0 0 0 247 should print to trk1 on the console, if you press the message twice, it does what it should, however if you press on 240 2 7 0 0 247 then it should output the same to the console under trk8 - but it doesn't first time out it prints it to trk1, then after that it goes to trk8. I'm sure this is a simple thing and I'm just doing this plain wrong, can someone perhaps give me a few pointers and let me know where I'm going wrong! Thanks in advance! Doug alltrackfiltertestbed.pd Description: Binary data ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Reminder: PD VideoPedia
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 11:49:44PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, B. Bogart hat gesagt: // B. Bogart wrote: Hmm, is this shared account a way of getting around the problem of copyright transfer? Anyone know of a CC/FLOSS utube like thing? (other than the prelinger archives) Why not put this on puredata.info? All that's needed is a flash video player, which is available as Open SOurce like the one on archive.org, and you can convert avis to flv with ffmpeg or mencoder. Is it possible to get an RSS feed of a youtube channel or whatever? You could just syndicate a channel onto the puredata.info site. Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Cannot filter list by content on time
your problem is that you're sending the messages before you open the spigot object. why do you need all the $1? if you want to send something locally I suggest $0. (although you still can replace the $0 with $1, but then it will only work if you pass a $1-argument.) best, marius. Douglas Rouxel wrote: Hi All, I'm very sorry, this has almost certainly been brought up more than once, and I'm very bad at this, I've been playing around with Pd for a while just for non-critical applications like making fun little noise machines and stuff, but I though I'd give a serious project a go, and I have - but it's not going well...I'm trying to filter some sysexdata, and I'm trying to keep my patch to only the standard modules, although if there is one which will do this straight up then I'll probably happily take it! So the input I'm getting in goes along the lines of: 240 2 0 0 0...247, I've managed to package up all the incoming stream of data from the Sysex in (on OS X) so that bit is fine - I'm trying to filter the information based on some of the content - specifically the third item in the list (and then later the 5th item, but the problem and process is the same.) In the example, each of the messages at the top represents some incoming data The message 240 2 0 0 0 247 should print to trk1 on the console, if you press the message twice, it does what it should, however if you press on 240 2 7 0 0 247 then it should output the same to the console under trk8 - but it doesn't first time out it prints it to trk1, then after that it goes to trk8. I'm sure this is a simple thing and I'm just doing this plain wrong, can someone perhaps give me a few pointers and let me know where I'm going wrong! Thanks in advance! Doug ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list alltrackfiltertestbed2.pd Description: application/extension-pd ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Cannot filter list by content on time
sorry, wrong patch marius. marius schebella wrote: your problem is that you're sending the messages before you open the spigot object. why do you need all the $1? if you want to send something locally I suggest $0. (although you still can replace the $0 with $1, but then it will only work if you pass a $1-argument.) best, marius. Douglas Rouxel wrote: Hi All, I'm very sorry, this has almost certainly been brought up more than once, and I'm very bad at this, I've been playing around with Pd for a while just for non-critical applications like making fun little noise machines and stuff, but I though I'd give a serious project a go, and I have - but it's not going well...I'm trying to filter some sysexdata, and I'm trying to keep my patch to only the standard modules, although if there is one which will do this straight up then I'll probably happily take it! So the input I'm getting in goes along the lines of: 240 2 0 0 0...247, I've managed to package up all the incoming stream of data from the Sysex in (on OS X) so that bit is fine - I'm trying to filter the information based on some of the content - specifically the third item in the list (and then later the 5th item, but the problem and process is the same.) In the example, each of the messages at the top represents some incoming data The message 240 2 0 0 0 247 should print to trk1 on the console, if you press the message twice, it does what it should, however if you press on 240 2 7 0 0 247 then it should output the same to the console under trk8 - but it doesn't first time out it prints it to trk1, then after that it goes to trk8. I'm sure this is a simple thing and I'm just doing this plain wrong, can someone perhaps give me a few pointers and let me know where I'm going wrong! Thanks in advance! Doug ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list alltrackfiltertestbed3.pd Description: application/extension-pd ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Cannot filter list by content on time
An way that uses even less objects. Doctor the list to copy the channel number at the head then use [route] On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 23:17:22 +0100 Douglas Rouxel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I'm very sorry, this has almost certainly been brought up more than once, and I'm very bad at this, I've been playing around with Pd for a while just for non-critical applications like making fun little noise machines and stuff, but I though I'd give a serious project a go, and I have - but it's not going well...I'm trying to filter some sysexdata, and I'm trying to keep my patch to only the standard modules, although if there is one which will do this straight up then I'll probably happily take it! So the input I'm getting in goes along the lines of: 240 2 0 0 0...247, I've managed to package up all the incoming stream of data from the Sysex in (on OS X) so that bit is fine - I'm trying to filter the information based on some of the content - specifically the third item in the list (and then later the 5th item, but the problem and process is the same.) In the example, each of the messages at the top represents some incoming data The message 240 2 0 0 0 247 should print to trk1 on the console, if you press the message twice, it does what it should, however if you press on 240 2 7 0 0 247 then it should output the same to the console under trk8 - but it doesn't first time out it prints it to trk1, then after that it goes to trk8. I'm sure this is a simple thing and I'm just doing this plain wrong, can someone perhaps give me a few pointers and let me know where I'm going wrong! Thanks in advance! Doug -- Use the source alltrackfiltertestbed3.pd Description: Binary data ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Hidden folders in PD open/save dialog
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 07:56:29PM +0200, Andre Schmidt wrote: would be very nice if pd used the open dialog of the current system (like gnome open dialog under gnome, windows under windows, etc...) People used to advocate for Pd to use wxWindows or something similar so that every part of it looked native on the correct platform, not just the open dialog. However I think people gave up advocating that as it became apparent how much Pd is tied into tcl/tk. Best, Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
