Re: [PD] Hidden folders in PD open/save dialog

2008-04-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Andre Schmidt wrote:
 would be very nice if pd used the open dialog of the current system
 (like gnome open dialog under gnome, windows under windows, etc...)

i think since tcl/tk-8.5 it should be possible to theme your tk-apps, 
thus using widgets provided by the system. e.g qt on kde,...

 
 is there an universal open dialog api ? ;)

yes there are several :-) :: tcl/tk implements one.
it is the dialog that is used by Pd.


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Re: [PD] Reminder: PD VideoPedia

2008-04-02 Thread Douglas Rouxel

Hi,

I'm not sure if you are looking for a site with a CC
back end, or for a site like youtube that offers CC
licenses for content. 

The site I use for all my videos is www.Blip.tv which
has RSS syndication for all uploads to a channel and
has CC licensing for all content uploaded. The quality
is also significantly higher than you tube and allows
different aspect ratios to be used.

Doug



--- Chris McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 11:49:44PM +0200, Frank
 Barknecht wrote:
  Hallo,
  B. Bogart hat gesagt: // B. Bogart wrote:
  
   Hmm, is this shared account a way of getting
 around the problem of
   copyright transfer?
   
   Anyone know of a CC/FLOSS utube like thing?
 (other than the prelinger
   archives)
  
  Why not put this on puredata.info? All that's
 needed is a flash video
  player, which is available as Open SOurce like the
 one on archive.org,
  and you can convert avis to flv with ffmpeg or
 mencoder.
 
 Is it possible to get an RSS feed of a youtube
 channel or whatever? You
 could just syndicate a channel onto the
 puredata.info site.
 
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Re: [PD] Hidden folders in PD open/save dialog

2008-04-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 This would be huge, it would greatly help the newbies.  In workshops,  
 a lot of people had trouble with those open/save panels.
 
 There are quite a few apps written with Tcl/Tk for GNU/Linux, so I am  
 sure we are not the first to want this feature.  I would be very  
 surprised if another Tcl/Tk app hasn't solved this already.

according to http://www.groupsrv.com/computers/about266840.html it is 
acutally already built into tk-8.4 but not exposed!

quoting this article:
 
  If you have Tcl/Tk 8.4.12, find the file tkfbox.tcl in your Tk
  installation. At line 777, you will see:
 
  set ::tk::dialog::file::showHiddenBtn 0
  set ::tk::dialog::file::showHiddenVar 1
 
  Replace them by:
 
  set ::tk::dialog::file::showHiddenBtn 1
  set ::tk::dialog::file::showHiddenVar 0
 
  And you're done...

mfgasd.r
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[PD] reading suggestions for wii/sensor data conversion

2008-04-02 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff

Hi List

I am a bit stuck with my ongoing experiments.

What i am trying to do is to send acceleration (xyz or pry) data from  
the wii/osculator to pd/pmpd to have it visualized

with some masses generated with pmpd.

I would liek to simply generate some force in the x or -x dirction to  
move a mass.


The data i get from the wii is i guess already accelleration and  
not absolute position, since i would liek to avoid using the ir- 
sensor bar.


I am missing a mathematical trick there, any suggestions or hints for  
further reading. I was working with the mapping-abstractions, which  
are

- as it seems - for any type of conversion.

Thans very much

Luigi





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Re: [PD] Cannot filter list by content on time

2008-04-02 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote:

 An way that uses even less objects.

And even less. ;)

Ciao
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Re: [PD] reading suggestions for wii/sensor data conversion

2008-04-02 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Luigi Rensinghoff wrote:
 I would liek to simply generate some force in the x or -x dirction to 
 move a mass.
 
 The data i get from the wii is i guess already accelleration and not 
 absolute position, since i would liek to avoid using the ir-sensor bar.

One of Isaac Newton's laws of motion [1]

F = m a

force = mass * acceleration

where force and acceleration are vectors

I might be misunderstanding what you need, though.


Claude

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion

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Re: [PD] PD and new ASUS and Everex mini laptops: experiences?

2008-04-02 Thread Ben Lau
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, nice to hear that PD runs on Eeepc!
  Did you use apt-get to install it?

Official repository don't provide puredata. Old version (0.39) could
be found in Etch repository.

As I prefer newer version , so I pick the source package from Debian
SID , and then build it for Eee PC.

  Testing sources: a good starting points could be the
  examples in the Help-Browser-3.audio.examples (in
  particular the H, I, J series of examples)

Randomly tested with few examples in H,I,J series. They just consume
around 7~10% of CPU time...

  listening for audio dropouts/glitches...
  Looks interesting!

  Thanks,

  AlbertoZ






  Hi Alberto,

   I own an Eee PC with puredata installed. The graphical
  chip is not
  bad. However, I am quite new to puredata, just tested with few
  examples with very simple effect. If you can suggest testing
  source ,
  I could help to test and report the result.

  On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi all,
  
has anyone tried the two ultraportable laptop from ASUS and
Everex with PD ?
  
http://eeepc.asus.com/global/product.htm - Eeepc
http://www.everex.com/  - CloudBook
  
They are both Linux-equipped and configurable.
Since they are offered in a nice price range (300-400$)
I was wandering what are the capabilities regarding
audio and, why not, graphics.
  
Cheers,
  
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Re: [PD] Another interface suggestion

2008-04-02 Thread Ctrl Alt Back
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 01:56:07PM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 that is actually a problem (or feature) of your window manager.
 at least in kde you can configure it to bring the modal dialog to the 
 foreground (though i keep forgetting where you have to set it)
 it should be possible with whatever window-manager you are using.
Modal windows stay above windows that they are modal for, 
not above other windows to which they are not related, but in this 
case, pd is hiding modal under its own window.  
What is possible - to set Pd above other layers, but then you have pd
console _always_ above all other windows, which is also not ideal.
There is no concept of globally modal windows in openbox, which is 
very much on purpose. 
Fact is, that in other WM it works fine, and while trying to close
unsaved patch i get modal popping up over any other windows, but 
still pd must be requesting something strange for its modal dialog, 
making it a child of a single window which is not the one you're 
working in or something.

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Re: [PD] PD and new ASUS and Everex mini laptops: experiences?

2008-04-02 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo!

 Official repository don't provide puredata. Old version (0.39) could
 be found in Etch repository.

Yes an old version is also in the Xandros repositories ...
However, I also compiled pd from source now.

And it really runs quite nice - one of my performance patches with 
arduino interface uses about 20% (some synths, samples and effects) and 
also without dropouts when switching windows etc.
However, I didn't test the latency so far ...

So it's really nice for simple audio things, especially if you have some 
other interfaces and don't want to show your big computer ... ;)

LG
Georg

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Re: [PD] reading suggestions for wii/sensor data conversion

2008-04-02 Thread Andrew Turley
From what I understand about pmpd, it looks like you can send an force
message to a mass object. As Claude says, F=m*a, so you can calculate
the force to send to the object based on the object's mass and the
acceleration data coming from the Wiimote.

You will probably have to scale the signals coming from the Wiimote to
use in your application. For example, if the acceleration on one axis
is 542, you will have to decide what you want that to mean in your
model.

Also remember that gravity causes acceleration, so even if you aren't
moving the Wiimote you will still detect accelertion. You may want to
try to remove that from your calculations.

I'm not sure if any of this is helping. I've been playing around with
accelerometers a little bit lately, so I might be able to help you,
but I'm still not sure I fully understand what you're trying to do and
where you're running into trouble.

andy

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:45 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Luigi Rensinghoff wrote:
   I would liek to simply generate some force in the x or -x dirction to
   move a mass.
  
   The data i get from the wii is i guess already accelleration and not
   absolute position, since i would liek to avoid using the ir-sensor bar.

  One of Isaac Newton's laws of motion [1]

  F = m a

  force = mass * acceleration

  where force and acceleration are vectors

  I might be misunderstanding what you need, though.


  Claude

  [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion

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[PD] strange behavior of sigmund~ in Mac Os X

2008-04-02 Thread Julian Villegas
Hi,
I've found that when using sigmund~ in Mac OS X v.10.5.2 and Pd-0.41-4, the 
patch freezes if I stop computing the audio. I mean, I can only close Pd from 
the Pd menu, and nothing else seems to work. I attached a simple patch to show 
my problem... Am I missing something? 
Thanks for your comments!
 
Julian Villegas

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Que significa ser Colombiano?
No se le respondi. Es un acto de fe
JLB.




  

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Re: [PD] Hidden folders in PD open/save dialog

2008-04-02 Thread Andre Schmidt

On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 09:07 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 Andre Schmidt wrote:
  would be very nice if pd used the open dialog of the current system
  (like gnome open dialog under gnome, windows under windows, etc...)
 
 i think since tcl/tk-8.5 it should be possible to theme your tk-apps, 
 thus using widgets provided by the system. e.g qt on kde,...
 
  
  is there an universal open dialog api ? ;)
 
 yes there are several :-) :: tcl/tk implements one.
 it is the dialog that is used by Pd.

well, i ment something more universal, like you would say open an file
open dialog in tcl/tk, and depending on the system tcl/tk is running,
it would open the native open file dialog of that system. all with
same code, hense the universal open dialog api...

but this would make an open file dialog ranked as an app, like zenity
or file/web-broswer or hmm, what are even standard apps that belong to
an operating system ? (ok, forget that)

well, im too long with open source, so my view of operating system is
maybe too wide and, eeh, open! :)

.andre


 
 
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Re: [PD] Hidden folders in PD open/save dialog

2008-04-02 Thread danomatika
IOhannes, you found the magic bullet (or forum post, that is)!

Awesome, I can confirm this works in a little test script and
screenshot.  It's a button to toggle
hidden file display as expected.

On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 10:55 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
  This would be huge, it would greatly help the newbies.  In workshops,  
  a lot of people had trouble with those open/save panels.
  
  There are quite a few apps written with Tcl/Tk for GNU/Linux, so I am  
  sure we are not the first to want this feature.  I would be very  
  surprised if another Tcl/Tk app hasn't solved this already.
 
 according to http://www.groupsrv.com/computers/about266840.html it is 
 acutally already built into tk-8.4 but not exposed!
 
 quoting this article:
  
   If you have Tcl/Tk 8.4.12, find the file tkfbox.tcl in your Tk
   installation. At line 777, you will see:
  
   set ::tk::dialog::file::showHiddenBtn 0
   set ::tk::dialog::file::showHiddenVar 1
  
   Replace them by:
  
   set ::tk::dialog::file::showHiddenBtn 1
   set ::tk::dialog::file::showHiddenVar 0
  
   And you're done...
 
 mfgasd.r
 IOhannes
 
 

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attachment: tk_file_dialog.png#!/usr/local/bin/tclsh

# I am not familiar with tcl/tk, so bear with me ...

# put together from http://www.groupsrv.com/computers/about266840-0-asc-15.html

package require Tk

# apparently, you need to somehow open or load the filedialog once before
# changing the environment variables will work
catch {tk_getOpenFile -with-invalid-argument} 

# change the environment variables
namespace eval ::tk::dialog::file {
variable showHiddenBtn 1
variable showHiddenVar 0
}

# open dialog
set filename [tk_getOpenFile -initialdir ~/ -title open dialog test]

puts $filename

exit

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Re: [PD] Hidden folders in PD open/save dialog

2008-04-02 Thread Andre Schmidt
yeah!

real men don't just talk (like me) but also try to solve the problem!

you guys rock! as always!

+1

On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 13:17 -0500, danomatika wrote:
 IOhannes, you found the magic bullet (or forum post, that is)!
 
 Awesome, I can confirm this works in a little test script and
 screenshot.  It's a button to toggle
 hidden file display as expected.
 
 On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 10:55 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: 
  Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
   This would be huge, it would greatly help the newbies.  In workshops,  
   a lot of people had trouble with those open/save panels.
   
   There are quite a few apps written with Tcl/Tk for GNU/Linux, so I am  
   sure we are not the first to want this feature.  I would be very  
   surprised if another Tcl/Tk app hasn't solved this already.
  
  according to http://www.groupsrv.com/computers/about266840.html it is 
  acutally already built into tk-8.4 but not exposed!
  
  quoting this article:
   
If you have Tcl/Tk 8.4.12, find the file tkfbox.tcl in your Tk
installation. At line 777, you will see:
   
set ::tk::dialog::file::showHiddenBtn 0
set ::tk::dialog::file::showHiddenVar 1
   
Replace them by:
   
set ::tk::dialog::file::showHiddenBtn 1
set ::tk::dialog::file::showHiddenVar 0
   
And you're done...
  
  mfgasd.r
  IOhannes
  
  
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[PD] gemhead render argument

2008-04-02 Thread altern
hi

i am getting different behaviours with same GEM patch under linux and
windows. The patch is rendering a webcam image with pix_video and then a
basic rectangle with no texture on top of the webcam (using pix_blob to
analyse the camera and move the rectangle around). Each has its own
gemhead and they are separated in different abstractions.

While in windows all is rendered fine, linux does not like it the
rectangle was rendered but the webcam image wasnt. The only way to get
it to work was to put some render argument of the rectangle like 2. So I
decided to set that value to $0 on loadbang, this should give different
numbers to each instance of the abstractions. (Note that i dont have a
clue if this is bad idea). Both the camera image and the rectagle are
included in abstractions.

The result was kind of ok, now linux was more happy with it but still
sometimes the webcam image goes off again. This happens for example when
I move the gem window or after ~10 to ~20 secs. Also if i open a PD
subpatch.

When I switch rendering off on the rectangle's gemhead and then the
webcam goes live again... When I switch on the rectangle it takes some
secs to go off again... If I dont turn on the rectangle the webcam stays
alive.

The webcam gemhead gets set to 1004 and the rectangle to 1005 from the
$0 arg of the abstractions they live in.

I guess this must be some problem with having two gemheads but i am not
sure why this problem is not happening at all under windows, so it looks
like a linux issue. Anything i can do to avoid this problem?

Sorry if the explanation is not very clear...

thanks!

enrike


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[PD] reading suggestions for wii/sensor data conversion

2008-04-02 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff
Hi List

I am a bit stuck with my ongoing experiments.

What i am trying to do is to send acceleration (xyz or pry) data from  
the wii/osculator to pd/pmpd to have it visualized
with some masses generated with pmpd.

I would liek to simply generate some force in the x or -x dirction to  
move a mass.

The data i get from the wii is i guess already accelleration and  
not absolute position, since i would liek to avoid using the ir- 
sensor bar.

I am missing a mathematical trick there, any suggestions or hints for  
further reading. I was working with the mapping-abstractions, which  
are
- as it seems - for any type of conversion.

Thans very much

Luigi

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