Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] GEM: where to find gem-CVS20060412-NT-i686-bin (windows binaries)
Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: I remember a few months ago I asked the list (pd-list or gem-dev) for versions more recent than the prehistoric 0.90, and somebody directed me to a directory somewhere at iem.at with lots of cvs snapshot (is that what they are?) and that's where I found gem-CVS20060412-NT-i686-bin.. but I can't find neither that page nor the thread in the list archives. Can anybody help me find gem-CVS20060412-NT-i686-bin.zip? all these should be in http://gem.iem.at/releases/0.91 the old builds are just hidden, so that people do not get confused. you are most likely looking for: http://gem.iem.at/releases/0.91/gem-CVS20060412-NT-i686-bin.zip/view anyhow, the old binaries are hidden on purpose: the latest binary (which is visible) is meant to be a release-candidate. if yo are experiencing problems, please elaborate so that they can hopefully be fixed within the next days (or weeks): which things do NOT work? which behave differently? mfgasd.r IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [GEM] Any instructions to produce multiple windows using Pd?
Hi all, I'm new to Pd, and have played around with Gem for a little while. I can now draw objects in one window, but a second window with a different viewpoint is needed. Can anyone please point me to some instructions in regard to generating the second window? Many thanks, Ken ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ossmixer of ext13 not working with pd-extended 0.41.4 (gutsy)
That's some really old code that no one maintains. It sounds useful, but if it doesn't work, the developer hasn't been using Pd for years. .hc On May 2, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Ingo Scherzinger wrote: Is anybody using ossmixer with pd-extended 0.41.4 on Ubuntu Gutsy? It’s not working here! Ingo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vasp missing abstractions in pd extended
Hey Thomas, The version of the flext externals included in the last Pd-extended release were the most recent on your site when that version was released. About this upcoming release, do you think you'll have the autoconf stuff working at all? I'd like to include that. If not, I'll just use the binaries on your site for the final release. .hc On May 2, 2008, at 12:21 AM, Thomas Grill wrote: Hi Fabian, hard to say why it isn't working. I'm suspecting a version conflict, as some of the vasp objects (min, max, and maybe more) slightly changed their behavior some years ago and i have no idea which version is included in pd-extended. I'm somehow working on a solution to all those problems, but since i'm very busy it can still take some time to get my externals into pd- extended. gr~~~ Am 30.04.2008 um 20:42 schrieb Langsam Wieder: hello list! i finally tracked down why the vasp examples shipping with pd extended aren't working (the ones at \doc\examples\vasp\pd-ex\). The examples use vasp abstractions like vasp.lower.pd or vasp.re.pd which aren't included with pd extended. (even the VASP-HELP.pd is missing). but they are included in the archives at http://g.org/ext/vasp/ in the subfolder vasp\pd. (but funny that the vasp version there is older than the one shipping with pd extended). i wonder why this folder isn't included with pd extended? and two problems with the examples: when i include vasp as library and add the path to the abstractions, the examples load well and don't produce any errors. but i still can't get convolve.pd and loudness.pd to work. with convolve, start convolution doesn't produce any output in buf_res (yes, the source buffers are loaded and the lengths are adjusted), pd do only outputs the sample count but buf_res always stays empty. and with loudness, i only get a + at the output. thanks for helping fabbre ___ PD-list@iem.at maili ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list kill your television ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vasp missing abstractions in pd extended
the vasp external I tried yesterday from your site, crashed my pd (latest autobuild). I then compiled my own version of vasp and that crashed, too. I guess I have some version conflicts (compiled against the wrong version?), so I am not sure if this error also appears on other systems and is really a bug. but maybe someone else on os x 10.5 can test this? thanks, marius. Thomas Grill wrote: Am 02.05.2008 um 13:55 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: About this upcoming release, do you think you'll have the autoconf stuff working at all? I'd like to include that. If not, I'll just use the binaries on your site for the final release. Hi Hans-Christoph, i'm sure the autoconf stuff will soon work for flext and the externals which don't depend on external packages (pool, xsample, vasp etc.) as least. It would be good to include that into the autobuilds. For an upcoming release of pd-extended i'd recommend taking the binaries from my site though. The flext version i'm using here (and for autoconf) hasn't been published for many months and isn't really tested under linux (but it has been working for me flawlessly). gr~~~ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] http, html and textfiles
hello, If we WERE going to use just pd for longer text type processing, what optimization methods would be recommended? Is there a particular font that PD handles better than others? Would it be wise to strip text of backslashes, spaces, commas as im assuming from your post? Can PD grab a random 'line' from a text file so as not to have to load the whole thing? Thanks mark --- Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, wolfgang schwarzenbrunner hat gesagt: // wolfgang schwarzenbrunner wrote: i am working on a little project in which websites are going to be parsed. well. i thought this might be a nice thing using the regex object from zexy... the only problem i am facing right now is that i have no idea how i could get a html file on my harddisk using pd (something like a http browsing object)... any suggestions? Yep: Don't use Pd for text processing. Pd is good at many things, but it's not good at parsing and modifying larger amounts of text. AFAIK there still is no garbage collection for unused symbols (Pd's strings), it's overcomplicated to deal with certain characters (backslashes, spaces, commas, ...) when they should not be interpreted by Pd etc. What I would recommend is to do your text processing in a different language. Many (scripting) languages that are great with text can be used inside of Pd: Lua, Python, Java, Scheme, etc. Most of these also include or can be extended easily with nice web browsing tools (CURL, Socket, system(wget) ...). In the end you can do both the browsing and all processing in one place and then only need to feed the results over to Pd in a format, Pd can handle with more elegance than it can handle large amounts of text. Of course it depends a bit on how complex your project is, so you may get away with pure Pd as well, but IMO it's a better use of Pd to externalize the text processing to a language better suited. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] http, html and textfiles
If you have pd extended you can use the mrpeach/tcpclient to retrieve the page and the mrpeach/str object to snip the data on any character or position. You have to enter things like spaces and backslashes as their decimal equivalent though. An important pair is 10 13 for CR LF. It works better if you are accessing simple web pages, especially if you are printing out the characters as they arrive. Neither http or html know about fonts, it's all pure ascii text. Martin From: mark edward grimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED], pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] http, html and textfiles Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 06:34:18 -0700 (PDT) hello, If we WERE going to use just pd for longer text type processing, what optimization methods would be recommended? Is there a particular font that PD handles better than others? Would it be wise to strip text of backslashes, spaces, commas as im assuming from your post? Can PD grab a random 'line' from a text file so as not to have to load the whole thing? Thanks mark --- Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, wolfgang schwarzenbrunner hat gesagt: // wolfgang schwarzenbrunner wrote: i am working on a little project in which websites are going to be parsed. well. i thought this might be a nice thing using the regex object from zexy... the only problem i am facing right now is that i have no idea how i could get a html file on my harddisk using pd (something like a http browsing object)... any suggestions? Yep: Don't use Pd for text processing. Pd is good at many things, but it's not good at parsing and modifying larger amounts of text. AFAIK there still is no garbage collection for unused symbols (Pd's strings), it's overcomplicated to deal with certain characters (backslashes, spaces, commas, ...) when they should not be interpreted by Pd etc. What I would recommend is to do your text processing in a different language. Many (scripting) languages that are great with text can be used inside of Pd: Lua, Python, Java, Scheme, etc. Most of these also include or can be extended easily with nice web browsing tools (CURL, Socket, system(wget) ...). In the end you can do both the browsing and all processing in one place and then only need to feed the results over to Pd in a format, Pd can handle with more elegance than it can handle large amounts of text. Of course it depends a bit on how complex your project is, so you may get away with pure Pd as well, but IMO it's a better use of Pd to externalize the text processing to a language better suited. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ossmixer of ext13 not working with pd-extended 0.41.4 (gutsy)
Hallo, Ingo Scherzinger hat gesagt: // Ingo Scherzinger wrote: Is anybody using ossmixer with pd-extended 0.41.4 on Ubuntu Gutsy? It's not working here! If you use ALSA, you could try amixer from SVNROOT/externals/iem/amixer/ instead. Don't know if that still works, but I guess it does. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Number of Loaded Lines in a Text File Read by MSGFILE
Hello, Maybe I am missing something. I want to print the number of lines in a text file loaded into 'msgfile' OR equivalent object. The object seems to do everything but that!! Am i missing something right in front of me? I just need to know the number of lines in a text file that i load... Thanks!!! BTW 'msgfile-help.pd' is missing in my pd-extended recent auto-build... cheers mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] http, html and textfiles
hey thanks on the tip, i will try that out... html know about fonts, it's all pure ascii text. oh yes i know this. i meant an optimized font for when the text is in pd/gem window... i guess it wouldn't really matter though as long as the loaded font wasn't too complicated. Thanks! mark --- Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have pd extended you can use the mrpeach/tcpclient to retrieve the page and the mrpeach/str object to snip the data on any character or position. You have to enter things like spaces and backslashes as their decimal equivalent though. An important pair is 10 13 for CR LF. It works better if you are accessing simple web pages, especially if you are printing out the characters as they arrive. Neither http or html know about fonts, it's all pure ascii text. Martin From: mark edward grimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED], pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] http, html and textfiles Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 06:34:18 -0700 (PDT) hello, If we WERE going to use just pd for longer text type processing, what optimization methods would be recommended? Is there a particular font that PD handles better than others? Would it be wise to strip text of backslashes, spaces, commas as im assuming from your post? Can PD grab a random 'line' from a text file so as not to have to load the whole thing? Thanks mark --- Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, wolfgang schwarzenbrunner hat gesagt: // wolfgang schwarzenbrunner wrote: i am working on a little project in which websites are going to be parsed. well. i thought this might be a nice thing using the regex object from zexy... the only problem i am facing right now is that i have no idea how i could get a html file on my harddisk using pd (something like a http browsing object)... any suggestions? Yep: Don't use Pd for text processing. Pd is good at many things, but it's not good at parsing and modifying larger amounts of text. AFAIK there still is no garbage collection for unused symbols (Pd's strings), it's overcomplicated to deal with certain characters (backslashes, spaces, commas, ...) when they should not be interpreted by Pd etc. What I would recommend is to do your text processing in a different language. Many (scripting) languages that are great with text can be used inside of Pd: Lua, Python, Java, Scheme, etc. Most of these also include or can be extended easily with nice web browsing tools (CURL, Socket, system(wget) ...). In the end you can do both the browsing and all processing in one place and then only need to feed the results over to Pd in a format, Pd can handle with more elegance than it can handle large amounts of text. Of course it depends a bit on how complex your project is, so you may get away with pure Pd as well, but IMO it's a better use of Pd to externalize the text processing to a language better suited. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Number of Loaded Lines in a Text File Read by MSGFILE
If I understand you correctly, you will need to iterate over the file, counting each line as you iterate over it. You could also try using one of the externals that handles shell commands and then use 'wc' to count the words and lines in your file. Mike On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 4:46 PM, mark edward grimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Maybe I am missing something. I want to print the number of lines in a text file loaded into 'msgfile' OR equivalent object. The object seems to do everything but that!! Am i missing something right in front of me? I just need to know the number of lines in a text file that i load... Thanks!!! BTW 'msgfile-help.pd' is missing in my pd-extended recent auto-build... cheers mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Number of Loaded Lines in a Text File Read by MSGFILE
with msgfile, you should be able to send [end, where( to the messagefile, which first jumps to the end end then tells you the current position (line number). the first line is 0, so you have to add 1 to the number to get the number of lines. marius. mark edward grimm wrote: Hello, Maybe I am missing something. I want to print the number of lines in a text file loaded into 'msgfile' OR equivalent object. The object seems to do everything but that!! Am i missing something right in front of me? I just need to know the number of lines in a text file that i load... Thanks!!! BTW 'msgfile-help.pd' is missing in my pd-extended recent auto-build... cheers mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Number of Loaded Lines in a Text File Read by MSGFILE
Awesome! I must have missed that in the non-existent help file i had to search the internet for :) also i was a little confused because the help file i found uses [when( in the comments and [where( as a message... all is good though!! so thanks for this marius! [end, where( actually only gave me a bang message from the second outlet but what worked for me was [end, skip -1, where( thanks again! cheers mark --- marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with msgfile, you should be able to send [end, where( to the messagefile, which first jumps to the end end then tells you the current position (line number). the first line is 0, so you have to add 1 to the number to get the number of lines. marius. mark edward grimm wrote: Hello, Maybe I am missing something. I want to print the number of lines in a text file loaded into 'msgfile' OR equivalent object. The object seems to do everything but that!! Am i missing something right in front of me? I just need to know the number of lines in a text file that i load... Thanks!!! BTW 'msgfile-help.pd' is missing in my pd-extended recent auto-build... cheers mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Number of Loaded Lines in a Text File Read by MSGFILE
mark edward grimm wrote: Awesome! I must have missed that in the non-existent help file i had to search the internet for :) also i was a little confused because the help file i found uses [when( in the comments and [where( as a message... all is good though!! so thanks for this marius! [end, where( actually only gave me a bang message from the second outlet but what worked for me was [end, skip -1, where( yes, I wanted to say that first, but then I tried it, and it worked with only end, where. maybe it only works if you clicked rewind first? maybe it also depends on the version of msgfile. don't know. be sure to test, if you really get the correct number. marius. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] UI developer volunteering to help
Hey PD gurus, I used to use PD a lot but haven't much for the last year or more. Now I'm getting back in to it and finding that the UI is just really clunky and awkward and makes the workflow really painful. I build website UIs professionally in JavaScript (see http://www.zillow.com/search/RealEstateSearch.htm for an example of a UI I built, everything except the Flash). I also have on-the-job experience in design and usability, as well as coding skills in Python and some exposure to C, C++ and Java. I'd like to start pitching in specifically on GUI and chrome improvements in the trunk for the core PD UI. How would I go about getting started? I noticed the page at http://puredata.info/dev/GuiIdeashas some outstanding requests from the community, it seems like the best thing is to start there. I'd also like to integrate with the developer community to ensure that UI improvements (specifically, better keyboard support and smoothing out some glaring dialog/chrome issues) don't have a negative impact on realtime audio performance. Best, David ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
