Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD/Freeduino workshop in Dakar, Senegal
Sounds like a great trip! I am looking forward to hearing the fusion of West African drumming with Pd! :) .hc On May 5, 2008, at 2:48 AM, JNM wrote: One of the first PD/Freeduino/P5 workshops in West Africa will take place in Dakar, Ker Thiossane Art Center, in Senegal, from monday to saturday, by Centre de Ressources Art Sensitif. Free entrance. Welcome. Given by Jerôme Abel and JNM from craslab.org For anecdote, two students from Bamako, Mali, have travelled hundreds kilometers from friday , 8.00 in the morning, to today (sunday) in the afternoon, by local buses, on destroyed roads, sand and dust, with 42 degrees temperature (no cool air system), just to participate to this PD workshop starting tomorrow. This contrasts with some french artists from Paris, complaining that our art center in the surburbs, where we organize our workshops, is to far from the center of Paris...( 4 kilometers...)... - ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] schedule a sequence of events
hi i needed to schedule a sequence of events, in this case start/stop certain parts of a patch over time. I wanted to be able to pass to an abstraction a list of time intervals (in secs and with variable length) and then get output a series of bangs after each of the intervals. I attach the solution I found, not sure if this is clever or there is maybe something already done for this? I use drip, coll and delay. It receives a list of times like 2 3 0.5 and outputs the index at the right time. In this case after 2 secs outputs num 0, after 3 secs num 1, and after half a sec more outputs num 2. I called it sequence but i bet this name is already taken and it would be wise to rename it with another one. thanks for any feedback or ideas enrike #N canvas 328 332 784 519 10; #X msg 144 366 next; #X msg 97 201 clear; #X obj 31 218 drip; #X obj 31 261 i; #X obj 58 261 + 1; #X obj 31 239 t b f; #X msg 46 193 0; #X obj 31 326 coll ; #C restore; #X obj 58 391 delay; #X obj 31 282 pack f f; #X text -2 388 index; #X text -2 350 time; #X obj 33 391 f; #X msg 138 201 stop; #X obj 31 351 * 1000; #X obj 14 170 t b l b b; #X text -35 198 wait; #X obj 33 451 outlet; #X obj 14 80 inlet; #X obj 97 170 t b b; #X obj 178 102 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #X obj 58 414 spigot 0; #X msg 166 71 1; #X obj 178 19 inlet; #X msg 65 38 0.5 1 2 3; #X obj -35 218 delay 50; #X connect 0 0 7 0; #X connect 1 0 7 0; #X connect 2 0 5 0; #X connect 3 0 4 0; #X connect 3 0 9 0; #X connect 4 0 3 1; #X connect 5 0 3 0; #X connect 5 1 9 1; #X connect 6 0 3 1; #X connect 7 0 14 0; #X connect 7 1 12 1; #X connect 8 0 21 0; #X connect 9 0 7 0; #X connect 12 0 17 0; #X connect 13 0 8 0; #X connect 14 0 8 0; #X connect 15 0 25 0; #X connect 15 1 2 0; #X connect 15 2 6 0; #X connect 15 3 22 0; #X connect 15 3 19 0; #X connect 18 0 15 0; #X connect 19 0 1 0; #X connect 19 1 13 0; #X connect 20 0 21 1; #X connect 21 0 12 0; #X connect 21 0 0 0; #X connect 22 0 20 0; #X connect 23 0 20 0; #X connect 24 0 15 0; #X connect 25 0 0 0; #X coords 0 -1 1 1 95 19 1 100 100; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] schedule a sequence of events
This can be done with [pipe] and [list-drip] from list-abs, no externals required. See attached. Note: this works in Pd-standard ms instead of s, but the fix is trivial. Hope this is useful, Claude altern wrote: hi i needed to schedule a sequence of events, in this case start/stop certain parts of a patch over time. I wanted to be able to pass to an abstraction a list of time intervals (in secs and with variable length) and then get output a series of bangs after each of the intervals. I attach the solution I found, not sure if this is clever or there is maybe something already done for this? I use drip, coll and delay. It receives a list of times like 2 3 0.5 and outputs the index at the right time. In this case after 2 secs outputs num 0, after 3 secs num 1, and after half a sec more outputs num 2. I called it sequence but i bet this name is already taken and it would be wise to rename it with another one. thanks for any feedback or ideas enrike ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list #N canvas 0 0 402 442 10; #X obj 65 66 cnv 15 200 200 empty empty interval_sequencer 35 12 1 14 -257985 -1 0; #X obj 88 129 list-drip; #X msg 24 14 100 100 200 300 500 800; #X obj 88 154 t b f; #X obj 88 203 f; #X obj 128 203 + 1; #X msg 185 130 0; #X obj 88 93 t a b; #X obj 88 233 pipe f 0; #X obj 56 316 timer; #X obj 88 296 t b f; #X obj 56 336 pack f f; #X obj 56 376 print absolute-time; #X obj 213 205 f; #X obj 167 204 +; #X obj 24 34 t a b; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 15 0; #X connect 3 0 4 0; #X connect 3 1 14 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 4 0 8 0; #X connect 5 0 4 1; #X connect 6 0 4 1; #X connect 6 0 14 1; #X connect 7 0 1 0; #X connect 7 1 6 0; #X connect 8 0 10 0; #X connect 9 0 11 0; #X connect 10 0 9 1; #X connect 10 1 11 1; #X connect 11 0 12 0; #X connect 13 0 14 1; #X connect 14 0 13 0; #X connect 14 0 8 1; #X connect 15 0 7 0; #X connect 15 1 9 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] IP camera and pidip
Le Thu, 01 May 2008 03:46:31 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : ola, Ola Sevy, I've been trying your trick ith an Axis 214 and I only get a black screen. ... Any idea what's gone wrong? Bye O. i guess you have to find a format coming out of your camera that mplayer can decode ( first try to play it ), then next errors form pdp_rawin come from the wrong decoded data i don't have no ip cam, sorry, can't help more Hi, actually mencoder really dislikes mjpeg streams, but copes quite well with mpeg4. The problem was with pdp_glx , as soon as I switched to pdp_xv, i got a picture, not quite the quality I expect but a picture still. I googled a bit and foudn this : http://mcs.hackitectura.net/tiki-index.php?page=mplayer+and+pdp_raw I then added the [pdp_convert image/*/* but still i get the repeated message not a pdp image on the console when using pdp_glx ++ O. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD/Freeduino workshop in Dakar, Senegal
For anecdote, two students from Bamako, Mali, have travelled hundreds kilometers from friday , 8.00 in the morning, to today (sunday) in the afternoon, by local buses, on destroyed roads, sand and dust, with 42 degrees temperature (no cool air system), just to participate to this PD workshop starting tomorrow. This contrasts with some french artists from Paris, complaining that our art center in the surburbs, where we organize our workshops, is to far from the center of Paris...( 4 kilometers...)... nice comparison. we need some kick in the ass here in europe... enrike ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [OT] Searching for the Technological Sublime
I am looking for english translations of Mario Costa's writings. JStor has Technology,Artistic Production, and the 'Aesthetics of Communication' but I have not found a good anthology or other collections that include more from Costa. Does anyone have any suggestions? Please respond off list. Thanks Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problems compiling pix_opencv in OSX (Was Re: pdp_opencv pix_opencv new development)
Hola Lluis, now i got this error and i really don't know what it is :) error: [pix_opencv_haarcascade]: cannot handle this format (1234567) ! What does it mean ? Do you know where is the problem ? Thanx. ++ Jack Le 5 mai 08 à 12:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : S'està citant Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Argghh, I didn't try the objects and they freeze (or sometime crash) my PD. The objects draw perfectly under PD but i got this error : error: [pix_opencv_contours_convexity]: cannot handle this format (1234567) ! or [pix_opencv_haarcascade]: ERROR: Could not load classifier cascade Why ? Any idea ? yes, the classifier cascade files are the XML's files you have in the pix_opencv folder, the default ones is haarcascade_frontalface_alt.xml and it must be in the same folder where you have your pd_linux or pd_darwin files. also the object [pix_opencv_haarcascade] has a message |load $1( to load any xml file trained as classifier cascades. The default one I'm using is trained to detect human faces but you can train one to detect any object you want (it's not easy at all but it's possible). you can download other OpenSourced haarcascades (fer example) here: here:http://alereimondo.no-ip.org/OpenCV/34 and here you have some info on how to train one: http://note.sonots.com/SciSoftware/haartraining.html salut, ll. ++ Jack Le 30 avr. 08 à 19:57, Jack a écrit : OK, now it works on PowerPC, MacOSX.4.11 Here the method : ? Download this three libraries with Fink : libjpeg + libpng3 + libtiff ? In Terminal : cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ cvsroot/ opencvlibrary login then hit 'enter' on your keyboard cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ cvsroot/opencvlibrary co -P opencv download opencv sources ? with a text editor, open the file : cvcap_qt.cpp look for '__BEGIN__' and change it by '__BEGIN__{' look for '__END__' and change it by '}__END__' save ? In Terminal go to your opencv folder you just download and create a new folder 'build' : cd blabla/opencv mkdir build cd build ../configure CPPFLAGS=-I/sw/include LDFLAGS=-L/sw/lib make sudo make install enter your password ? With you browser go to : http://hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv download pix_opencv-0.1a.tar.gz and decompress all : http://hangar.org/wikis/lab/pd/pix_opencv-0.1a.tar.gz download PD-extended sources and decompress all : http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pure-data/Pd-0.39.3- extended.tar.bz2 download the makefile for macosx : http://hangar.org/wikis/lab/pd/opencv/Makefile.darwin ? In the Finder : change 'Makefile.darwin' by 'Makefile' and then overwrite the 'Makefile' in 'pix_opencv' folder you just download ? With a text editor : open this new 'Makefile' and change : PD_DIR = /*/Pd-0.39.3-extended/pd (enter the path of the 'pd' folder in 'Pd-0.39.3-extended' folder you just download from sourceforge) GEM_DIR = /*/Pd-0.39.3-extended/Gem (enter the path of the 'Gem' folder in 'Pd-0.39.3-extended' folder you just download from sourceforge) save ? In Terminal : go to the folder 'pix_opencv' with 'cd ' export MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.4 make clean make ? Then copy the '.pd_darwin' create in the 'pix_opencv' folder in your '/Applications/Pd-0.40.3-extended-20080315.app/ Contents/ Resources/extra/Gem/' for exemple Hope it will help and hope i have not made mistake. Thx to Lluis for his help. ++ Jack Le 28 avr. 08 à 12:29, Jack a écrit : Hello PD users, When i compile opencv, i get this error on macos X.4.11, G4 powerbook : ../../../otherlibs/highgui/cvcap_qt.cpp: In function `int icvWriteFrame_QT(CvVideoWriter*, const IplImage*)': ../../../otherlibs/highgui/cvcap_qt.cpp:1183: warning: unused variable 'status' ../../../otherlibs/highgui/cvcap_qt.cpp: In function `CvVideoWriter* cvCreateVideoWriter_QT(const char*, int, double, CvSize, int)': ../../../otherlibs/highgui/cvcap_qt.cpp:1425: error: jump to label 'exit' ../../../otherlibs/highgui/cvcap_qt.cpp:1310: error: from here ../../../otherlibs/highgui/cvcap_qt.cpp:1361: error: crosses initialization of 'MediaType** video' ../../../otherlibs/highgui/cvcap_qt.cpp:1350: error: crosses initialization of 'TrackType** video_track' ../../../otherlibs/highgui/cvcap_qt.cpp:1330: error: crosses initialization of 'const __CFString* out_path' make[3]: *** [cvcap_qt.lo] Error 1 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 Any idea ? I followed the instructions from : http://opencvlibrary.sourceforge.net/Mac_OS_X_OpenCV_Port Thanx. ++ Jack Le 26 avr. 08 à 06:17, marius schebella a écrit : got it working! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, when I try to load any of them PD gives me this error::
Re: [PD] schedule a sequence of events
thanks! i also added loop to it. see attached enrike Claude Heiland-Allen(e)k dio: This can be done with [pipe] and [list-drip] from list-abs, no externals required. See attached. Note: this works in Pd-standard ms instead of s, but the fix is trivial. Hope this is useful, Claude altern wrote: hi i needed to schedule a sequence of events, in this case start/stop certain parts of a patch over time. I wanted to be able to pass to an abstraction a list of time intervals (in secs and with variable length) and then get output a series of bangs after each of the intervals. I attach the solution I found, not sure if this is clever or there is maybe something already done for this? I use drip, coll and delay. It receives a list of times like 2 3 0.5 and outputs the index at the right time. In this case after 2 secs outputs num 0, after 3 secs num 1, and after half a sec more outputs num 2. I called it sequence but i bet this name is already taken and it would be wise to rename it with another one. thanks for any feedback or ideas enrike ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list #N canvas 566 36 318 436 10; #X obj 51 177 list-drip; #X obj 51 228 t b f; #X obj 51 263 f; #X obj 77 263 + 1; #X msg 124 200 0; #X obj 51 153 t a b; #X obj 51 293 pipe f 0; #X obj 134 263 f; #X obj 109 263 +; #X obj 51 128 l; #X obj 102 127 length; #X obj 126 319 select; #X obj 144 127 - 1; #X obj 30 385 outlet; #X obj 128 382 outlet; #X text -2 365 index; #X obj 51 62 inlet; #X obj 184 56 inlet; #X text 232 58 loop; #X obj 126 343 spigot; #X text 89 61 list in secs; #X obj 178 102 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 20 7 0 10 -260097 -1 -1 0 1; #X text 174 382 bangs on done; #X obj 51 207 * 1000; #X connect 0 0 23 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 1 1 8 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 6 0; #X connect 3 0 2 1; #X connect 4 0 2 1; #X connect 4 0 8 1; #X connect 5 0 0 0; #X connect 5 1 4 0; #X connect 6 0 11 0; #X connect 6 0 13 0; #X connect 7 0 8 1; #X connect 8 0 7 0; #X connect 8 0 6 1; #X connect 9 0 5 0; #X connect 9 0 10 0; #X connect 10 0 12 0; #X connect 11 0 19 0; #X connect 12 0 11 1; #X connect 16 0 9 0; #X connect 17 0 21 0; #X connect 19 0 14 0; #X connect 19 0 9 0; #X connect 21 0 19 1; #X connect 23 0 1 0; #X coords 0 -1 1 1 95 19 1 100 100; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ossmixer of ext13 not working with pd-extended
Hello Frank, Thank you for the info! I downloaded amixer but didn't succeed in compiling it. It could be amixer or it could be me (I'm relatively new to Linux and don't really know what to do when there are errors while compiling). I'll keep trying! Maybe I'll get it to work somehow. Ingo Ingo Scherzinger hat gesagt: // Ingo Scherzinger wrote: Is anybody using ossmixer with pd-extended 0.41.4 on Ubuntu Gutsy? It's not working here! If you use ALSA, you could try amixer from SVNROOT/externals/iem/amixer/ instead. Don't know if that still works, but I guess it does. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd extended on Ubuntu Hardy Heron
Hi François This may help - it looks like you're not alone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580916 fwiw, the Gutsy 0.39-extended package survived my upgrade to Hardy without complaining. cheers dafydd On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 9:28 AM, francois labastie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! Does someone knows how to install puredata extended on Ubuntu Hardy Heron? I tried Pd-0.39.3-extended-debian-testing-i386.deb, from http://puredata.info/downloads, and I got Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libflac7 I tried Pd-0.39.3-extended-rc5-debian-stable-i386.deb, from http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers-0.39.3-extended-rc5.html, and I got Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libflac7 as well. I used to work with it on Gutsy, but now with Hardy Heron how can I do? Thanks a lot for your help. François ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- www.sideshowmedia.ca skype: chickeninthegrass ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd extended on Ubuntu Hardy Heron
Hi Francois did you try the ubuntu repository version, with synaptic or by hand... 2008/5/5 francois labastie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello! Does someone knows how to install puredata extended on Ubuntu Hardy Heron? I tried Pd-0.39.3-extended-debian-testing-i386.deb, from http://puredata.info/downloads, and I got Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libflac7 I tried Pd-0.39.3-extended-rc5-debian-stable-i386.deb, from http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers-0.39.3-extended-rc5.html, and I got Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libflac7 as well. I used to work with it on Gutsy, but now with Hardy Heron how can I do? Thanks a lot for your help. François ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] fluid~ for OSX-pd-extendad
hello, i need fluid~.pd_darwin for OSX 10.4.1 that work in the lastest pd'extended. anybody have a compilation? thanks!!! Andrés Ferrari G. http://puredata.org/Members/anfex http://www.myspace.com/anfex http://www.youtube.com/anfex1 Yahoo! Deportes Beta ¡No te pierdas lo último sobre el torneo clausura 2008! Entérate aquí http://deportes.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Wii remote controller and Linux
using wmgui I was able to get (as far as i recall) all of the data from the wiimote.. definitely the acceleration, button and infrared.. cannot remember if there is anything else.. The wiimote external worked to get this info as well.. I haven't used it as a normal linux input device.. i think there might be some info you have to send to the device to turn on the accelerometers and infrared.. -Alex On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Flo Krebs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Does anybody know if the acceleration data is also transmitted using the HID standard with the SIXAXIS Controller under Linux ? If I check the events with cat /dev/input/js0 I get only information about the buttons... Thanks, greetings Florian Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy.. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd extended on Ubuntu Hardy Heron
You need one of the newer autobuilds from http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/. I'm using PD-Extended 0.40.3. Currently there is a bug with jack and pulseaudio and you need to kill pulse for best results. Just hit Atl+F2 and type killall pulseaudio then, when your done with jack turn pulse back on with Alt+F2 pulseaudio. Well, at least thats what I need to do to get it to work correctly with my external soundcard ... so yeah, post a bug report if things go crazy for you. On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 15:28 +0200, francois labastie wrote: Hello! Does someone knows how to install puredata extended on Ubuntu Hardy Heron? I tried Pd-0.39.3-extended-debian-testing-i386.deb, from http://puredata.info/downloads, and I got Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libflac7 I tried Pd-0.39.3-extended-rc5-debian-stable-i386.deb, from http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers-0.39.3-extended-rc5.html, and I got Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libflac7 as well. I used to work with it on Gutsy, but now with Hardy Heron how can I do? Thanks a lot for your help. Franois --- Dan Wilcox robotcowboy.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Wii remote controller and Linux
On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 08:59 -0700, Alex wrote: using wmgui I was able to get (as far as i recall) all of the data from the wiimote.. definitely the acceleration, button and infrared.. cannot remember if there is anything else.. The wiimote external worked to get this info as well.. I haven't used it as a normal linux input device.. i think there might be some info you have to send to the device to turn on the accelerometers and infrared.. -Alex On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Flo Krebs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Does anybody know if the acceleration data is also transmitted using the HID standard with the SIXAXIS Controller under Linux ? If I check the events with cat /dev/input/js0 I get only information about the buttons... Thanks, greetings Florian Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy.. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list If you're already using libcwiid and wmgui, then you can read the event data pretty easily as well as control the leds and the rumble motor using the libcwiid api. I have it working in a custom device daemon that forwards hids and wiimotes over osc in linux ... I have been meaning to sit down and set it all up for automake and release it if there is interest. If you program in C/C++ checkout the libwcwiid demo. Now I just need that neural net stuff for gesture recognition within pd. --- Dan Wilcox robotcowboy.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] UI developer volunteering to help
On Sat, 2008-05-03 at 05:16 -0400, cdr wrote: I am not sure what you mean by 'chrome' though. http://www.37signals.com/svn/archives2/lingo_chrome.php to get OS chrome on Tk, it may be as simple as a 'require Tktile' and tile http://wiki.tcl.tk/13636 is now part of tk8.5 http://tcl.tk/software/tcltk/8.5.tml ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] UI developer volunteering to help
On Monday 05 May 2008 18:53:53 Dan Wilcox wrote: On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 13:49 +0100, Jamie Bullock wrote: However, I'm quite warming to chord-less patching a la circle: http://www.futureaudioworkshop.com/ Jamie Hmmm why is it called Free Audio Workshop when Circle will be available for €149.00 / $199.00 ... ? Simply because it is not called Free Audio Workshop ? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd extended Ubuntu Hardy
Hello! Thanks a lot for your help, but I just installed pd from the ubuntu repository version. I didn't get work the newer autobuilds from http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/. So I will wait for a new pd-extended stable version (for ubuntu Hardy of course). The ubuntu repository version seems fine; may be. Anyway, thanks for the answers. Francois ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] UI developer volunteering to help
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: what is so bad about, if you create [ADSR] that it comes as a nice little control gui with all the knobs already included? it is not true that words are better than images. and it is not true that more information in a patch means better. I think you are right from the viewpoint of a programming user, but users that just want higher level usuability want better graphics at least the *possibility* to add graphical UI features. but this is quite a lot of work... Most of my patches only use a handful of Pd core objects, like maybe (guessing) 50 builtins and some externals. However on my disk there are hundreds of abstractions, that I use. If I would need to think of and design icons for each of these, I would not use abstractions and I would feel severly limited in what I could express with Pd. Concrete example: What icons should I use for the ~60 abstractions in the list-abs collection? It's no problem to express their functionality using words, but icons would be horribly confusing. Oh, and yes: I'm a programming user here, but I believe most Pd users are programming users, and the others rely on the work of programming users. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] end of the vline~
I feel this is a head-slappingly stupid question, but is there any way to tell when vline~ has finished its run? like a bang at the end, or something? i am feeling quite dense right now. (ditto with line, or line~) thanks ~s ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] end of the vline~
Hallo, Scott Fitzgerald hat gesagt: // Scott Fitzgerald wrote: I feel this is a head-slappingly stupid question, but is there any way to tell when vline~ has finished its run? It will end when it's done with doing what you told it to do. ;) You always know when a vline~ (or line~ or line) object ends, because at some point in the past you have started it with a certain desired duration. When that duration has passed, the line ends. E.g. you send a 10 1000 to vline, then that segement will end after 1000 msec. No need for an extra bang. If you still want that extra bang, just duplicate your delay time to a [delay] object as well, scheduled with a [trigger]. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] boids2D 3D again
Hi List i looked at boids - just like someone before - more or less accidently, but i think thats a very cool external with a lot of musical potential. Now two questions: Does anbody know how to compile on mac-Intel ? Or is there a binary somewhere ?? I tried the CVS-Version on linux, but it looks like it did not compile right (maybe the double-float problem) ? In which version was the problem fixed ?? When i open the help-patch, basically it looks like the values going to the gemspheres a far too little (range from -0.2 to 0.2 - instead of expected -4 to 4) and every time i change a parameter boids3D stops the calculation and has to be re-initiated again.. BTW: Does anybody have a little sound-boids- example patch ?? Once it is working ? Thanks Luigi ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] any tips on fart synthesis?
Sawtooth modulation (~5-20hz) of the cutoff frequency of a resonant lowpass filter (such as vcf~) and a simple pitch curve (rise fall, fall rise, fall fall, rise rise) on a complex waveform going through the filter. 4-point amplitude envelope - fastish attack, slightly slower decay with an imbalance of maybe 3-6dB between the second and third points. Medium resonance. Then you stick the whole lot through another filter - a peak EQ. Some kind of envelope. Maybe something needs to be done with the pitch, in sync with the saw tooth modulation? Ed http://sharktracks.co.uk - Original Message From: marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Claude Heiland-Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PD-List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, 1 February, 2008 4:28:33 PM Subject: Re: [PD] any tips on fart synthesis? did you try to sample what it sounds like? I got similar sounds also from recordings in a wash basin using empty plastic bottles or hands, or mouth sounds (like trumpet blowing, but under water). or really try to rebuilt it synthetically, probably two amplitude modulated waveshaped signals. would be nice to see synthetic solutions for it. marius. Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Hi all, Anyone got any advice on how to make sounds similar to the basses in this excerpt from Nightwalker - Rolling Through [NWR005]? http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/files/temp/fartstep.ogg (80kB) Really stinky wet fart noises. Thanks, Claude ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] boids2D 3D again
Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Hi List i looked at boids - just like someone before - more or less accidently, but i think thats a very cool external with a lot of musical potential. Now two questions: Does anbody know how to compile on mac-Intel ? Or is there a binary somewhere ?? boids is included in pd-extended for example. marius. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] schedule a sequence of events
Check out [s-midiloop] for something similar. It's SSSAD saveable! Best, Chris. On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 02:38:38PM +0200, altern wrote: thanks! i also added loop to it. see attached enrike Claude Heiland-Allen(e)k dio: This can be done with [pipe] and [list-drip] from list-abs, no externals required. See attached. Note: this works in Pd-standard ms instead of s, but the fix is trivial. Hope this is useful, Claude altern wrote: hi i needed to schedule a sequence of events, in this case start/stop certain parts of a patch over time. I wanted to be able to pass to an abstraction a list of time intervals (in secs and with variable length) and then get output a series of bangs after each of the intervals. I attach the solution I found, not sure if this is clever or there is maybe something already done for this? I use drip, coll and delay. It receives a list of times like 2 3 0.5 and outputs the index at the right time. In this case after 2 secs outputs num 0, after 3 secs num 1, and after half a sec more outputs num 2. I called it sequence but i bet this name is already taken and it would be wise to rename it with another one. thanks for any feedback or ideas enrike ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list #N canvas 566 36 318 436 10; #X obj 51 177 list-drip; #X obj 51 228 t b f; #X obj 51 263 f; #X obj 77 263 + 1; #X msg 124 200 0; #X obj 51 153 t a b; #X obj 51 293 pipe f 0; #X obj 134 263 f; #X obj 109 263 +; #X obj 51 128 l; #X obj 102 127 length; #X obj 126 319 select; #X obj 144 127 - 1; #X obj 30 385 outlet; #X obj 128 382 outlet; #X text -2 365 index; #X obj 51 62 inlet; #X obj 184 56 inlet; #X text 232 58 loop; #X obj 126 343 spigot; #X text 89 61 list in secs; #X obj 178 102 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 20 7 0 10 -260097 -1 -1 0 1; #X text 174 382 bangs on done; #X obj 51 207 * 1000; #X connect 0 0 23 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 1 1 8 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 6 0; #X connect 3 0 2 1; #X connect 4 0 2 1; #X connect 4 0 8 1; #X connect 5 0 0 0; #X connect 5 1 4 0; #X connect 6 0 11 0; #X connect 6 0 13 0; #X connect 7 0 8 1; #X connect 8 0 7 0; #X connect 8 0 6 1; #X connect 9 0 5 0; #X connect 9 0 10 0; #X connect 10 0 12 0; #X connect 11 0 19 0; #X connect 12 0 11 1; #X connect 16 0 9 0; #X connect 17 0 21 0; #X connect 19 0 14 0; #X connect 19 0 9 0; #X connect 21 0 19 1; #X connect 23 0 1 0; #X coords 0 -1 1 1 95 19 1 100 100; --- http://mccormick.cx ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list