Re: [PD] remote SL users..?

2008-05-30 Thread Rich E
Any word back on the Novation SDK?  Although I just came across your email,
I have also talked to the Novation support about this SDK, and about writing
an external for pd that uses it.  But, as far as I know... they never
released this SDK, and that was months ago.

I'll send Novation another email as well..

-rich

On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 1:19 AM, Damian Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Luke Iannini (pd) wrote:
> > Hi Damien,
> > My lawd yes!  I sent them an email about this same thing and never
> > received a response.
> >
> > I have a system I've been working on based on Memento that exposes all
> > state-savable parameters for assignment to a midi-controller,
> > automatically... but I still have to map the names to my SL which makes
> > me cry.
> >
> > If it's possible to write it in Python I'd be more than happy to help (I
> > have no experience with C/++ sadly).
> >
> > Cheers
> > Luke
>
> hey,
> cheers for your email,
>
> i should be all right coding it on my own - the question is whether you can
> individually address pots and sliders or whether you have to upload an
> entire template at once - which would be a bit stink. anyway i'll let you
> know how it goes.
>
> d
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[PD] shell object under ppc

2008-05-30 Thread Gonzague DDR
Hi all, i'm using a debian ppc, and the shell objet doesn't exist, is it come 
with a particular package ?, where can i found it or souces.list ?

Thanks

Regards

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Re: [PD] shell object under ppc

2008-05-30 Thread Jack
Maybe, you can try [ggee/shell].
++

Jack


Le 30 mai 08 à 10:12, Gonzague DDR a écrit :

> Hi all, i'm using a debian ppc, and the shell objet doesn't exist,  
> is it come with a particular package ?, where can i found it or  
> souces.list ?
>
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>
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>
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Re: [PD] default Save As location (was: [openpanel]/[savepanel]directory, [cd])

2008-05-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On May 29, 2008, at 11:31 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:

> Hallo,
> Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
>>> How is it decided what's the topmost patch?
>>
>> By which window has focus.
>
> Missed this: But the focus is the window about to be saved, isn't it?

Hehe, um, yeah, so the window that had focus immediately before.

.hc


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[PD] pd not starting on winXP

2008-05-30 Thread Enrico Costanza
Hello.

I have pd 0.39-3 extended installed on my machine, but it does not run.
If I try to launch pd.exe I can see the process in the task manager, but 
nothing happens.
If I try to launch on the command prompt  pd -verbose -d 5 -stderr
I get the following:

input channels = 2, output channels = 2
set pd_whichapi 0
set pd_whichmidiapi 3
Pd version 0.39-3extended
compiled 06:04:42 Oct 16 2007
port 5400
Waiting for connection request...

and it stops there.

I tried reinstalling with no luck. I also tried the 0.41 version but I 
always got the same.

Any suggestions?
I could not find anything on the web that seemed related.

Thanks,
Enrico


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Re: [PD] pd not starting on winXP

2008-05-30 Thread Max Neupert
looks to me like a firewall issue. pd are two processes communicating  
which each other. try again with disabled firewall to find out if  
that's the cause and report back.


m

Am 2008-05-30 um 21:27 schrieb Enrico Costanza:


Hello.

I have pd 0.39-3 extended installed on my machine, but it does not  
run.
If I try to launch pd.exe I can see the process in the task  
manager, but

nothing happens.
If I try to launch on the command prompt  pd -verbose -d 5 -stderr
I get the following:

input channels = 2, output channels = 2
set pd_whichapi 0
set pd_whichmidiapi 3
Pd version 0.39-3extended
compiled 06:04:42 Oct 16 2007
port 5400
Waiting for connection request...

and it stops there.

I tried reinstalling with no luck. I also tried the 0.41 version but I
always got the same.

Any suggestions?
I could not find anything on the web that seemed related.

Thanks,
Enrico


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Re: [PD] pd not starting on winXP

2008-05-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Try the latest version, which is about to be released:

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/Pd-0.40.3- 
extended-20080530-windowsxp-i386.exe

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest

Or search puredata.info for the faq and search the faq for  
"localhost", I think it was something related to that.

.hc

On May 30, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Enrico Costanza wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I have pd 0.39-3 extended installed on my machine, but it does not  
> run.
> If I try to launch pd.exe I can see the process in the task  
> manager, but
> nothing happens.
> If I try to launch on the command prompt  pd -verbose -d 5 -stderr
> I get the following:
>
> input channels = 2, output channels = 2
> set pd_whichapi 0
> set pd_whichmidiapi 3
> Pd version 0.39-3extended
> compiled 06:04:42 Oct 16 2007
> port 5400
> Waiting for connection request...
>
> and it stops there.
>
> I tried reinstalling with no luck. I also tried the 0.41 version but I
> always got the same.
>
> Any suggestions?
> I could not find anything on the web that seemed related.
>
> Thanks,
> Enrico
>
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Re: [PD] default Save As location (was: [openpanel]/[savepanel]directory, [cd])

2008-05-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On May 30, 2008, at 8:38 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:

> Frank Barknecht wrote:
>> Hallo,
>
>>
>> I'm the wrong person to comment on MS-Windows or Mac, as I don't use
>> these and don't care even the teeny-tiniest bit about what happens to
>
> iirc, you can set the working directory on w32 in your "link".
> so i suggest setting it to %HOME% (or whatever the name is) and no  
> need
> to modify a single line of code within Pd.
>
> i am sure that there is a mechanism for this on OSX too (where i admit
> that it is really annoying that Pd thinks it is started from "/";  
> but i
> would rather have os flaws fixed on the os level rather than on the
> app-level...)

So maybe something like this:

- default to folder that Pd starts in
- make launching shortcuts start in $HOME
- then last folder used, with separate storage for open, save, and  
saveas

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Re: [PD] default Save As location (was: [openpanel]/[savepanel]directory, [cd])

2008-05-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


In the most recent versions of Pd-extended, you can use "~" on all  
platforms for any path (I think, report a bug if not).  "~hans",  
"~username", etc. doesn't work tho.


On Windows, you can use envvars like %UserProfile%, so like [symbol % 
UserProfile%/Desktop(.  I would be nice to have this on UNIX  
platforms, but I haven't found a function to do the conversion, like  
Windows has.


.hc

On May 30, 2008, at 3:58 AM, Rich E wrote:

When I first posted about this, it was about the recently new  
ability to do this:


[symbol somedir(
|
[openpanel]

But this only works if "somedir" is at "$HOME/somedir" on linux and  
"/usr/blahblah/pdir/somedir" on mac.  So if my directly layout is  
something like "~/patches/somedir", I have to explicitly write in  
the message to [openpanel] "/home/myname/patches/somedir".  This  
will only work on my directly layout, so if it is a patch I'm going  
to share, I cannot use this new feature (might I add I really like  
the feature).


I was only suggesting that [openpanel]/[savepanel]'s symbol  
argument has the patch's current directory appended to it, unless  
the "~" sign is used for home, or a full path is given.  I think,  
as Martin suggested, this is all handled internally with  
canvas_getdir() and open_via_path().


Regarding the normal operation of [openpanel]/[savepanel], i.e.  
sending it a bang, I think it would be nice if the last directory  
navigated to is remembered, else the $HOME.


-rich

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

Hallo,
Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

> The problem here is that most people do not start Pd from the  
command

> line.  With Pd-extended, it is now included in the standard free
> desktop menus (only tested on GNOME, should work on KDE), so I'll  
bet

> most people use that rather than the command line (I do on Ubuntu).

The HOME directory already is the default directory on Linux with
Gnome/KDE/Blackbox or whatever, as it's the working directory when
starting Pd from the manager. No need for any changes AFAIK.

I'm the wrong person to comment on MS-Windows or Mac, as I don't use
these and don't care even the teeny-tiniest bit about what happens to
Pd on these systems, but please leave it on Linux as it is the
standard here. All other apps like Vim, Emacs, Gimp, Firefox use the
`pwd` as default and I can't see why Pd should behave differently.

If you want to confirm this yourself, try the following with the gimp:

$ cd /tmp
$ gimp &

Then make a new file, select "Save" and it will give you "/tmp" as
first directory choice.

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Re: [PD] rc-unitd joystick/wiimote osc daemon

2008-05-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


This sounds very useful.  How about making it a Pd library?   
Something like a udev library would be very nice to have.


.hc

On May 30, 2008, at 6:04 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:


Howdy fellow pd-ers,

I finally moved my robotcowboy osc device daemon to autotools.  It  
grabs

joystick and wiimote event data and slings it over osc.

You can find it on my website, its called rc-unitd.

It was developed for Linux and uses udev rules to automatically start
listening to joysticks when they are plugged in and you can set osc  
address
names to specific joysticks (although not usb ports yet). It also  
has experimental

wiimote support using libcwiid.

This is not meant as a replacement for [hid] but was developed as  
part of my
wearable performance project.  You just set your rules, turn on the  
daemon and

plug and play.

Let me know if it works ... there's quite a bit I'd like to do with  
it.  If there's enough

interest I'll go to sourceforge.

---
Dan Wilcox
robotcowboy.com
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Re: [PD] default Save As location (was: [openpanel]/[savepanel]directory, [cd])

2008-05-30 Thread Damian Stewart
Damian Stewart wrote:

> why not do what a lot of other apps do and persistently store the 
> last-used-directory somewhere in the config, so that next time I open Pd, 
> Open is pointing to the same place as the last time I closed it?

so no love for this idea then?



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Re: [PD] remote SL users..?

2008-05-30 Thread Damian Stewart
Rich E wrote:
> Any word back on the Novation SDK?  Although I just came across your 
> email, I have also talked to the Novation support about this SDK, and 
> about writing an external for pd that uses it.  But, as far as I know... 
> they never released this SDK, and that was months ago.
> 
> I'll send Novation another email as well..

i sent them one on the 2nd of May and got this in reply. basically, it's on 
their todo list, but at a low priority:

Hi Damian,

The SDK is scheduled amongst a huge list of other features which due to be 
release. As you can appreciate, our software developers have priorities 
(such the recent Automap 2 and Nocturn, as well as other ongoing 
developments) and I cannot commit our developers to an exact date. However 
I am positive that it will be release at some point. So please check back 
on our website in the future.

Thank you in advance for your understanding.

Best regards,

Andy Leung
Novation Support



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Re: [PD] default Save As location (was: [openpanel]/[savepanel]directory, [cd])

2008-05-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On May 30, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Damian Stewart wrote:

> Damian Stewart wrote:
>
>> why not do what a lot of other apps do and persistently store the  
>> last-used-directory somewhere in the config, so that next time I  
>> open Pd, Open is pointing to the same place as the last time I  
>> closed it?
>
> so no love for this idea then?

That could work too.  That would rely on the preferences system,  
right now it is not easy/clean to extend.  So maybe that would come  
later.

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Re: [PD] pd not starting on winXP

2008-05-30 Thread Enrico Costanza
Thanks for the replies.

I tried to disable the firewall, but that did not make a difference.

I installed the latest version (0.40.3) but I still got the same:

pdtk_post {input channels = 2, output channels = 2}
set pd_whichapi 0
set pd_whichmidiapi 3
Pd version 0.40-3extended-20080530
compiled 05:58:20 May 30 2008
port 5400
Waiting for connection request...

I found this FAQ:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq
but I could not see anything related to localhost. The closest thing I 
found was the loopback network interface. I tried to install that on my 
windows machine, as described on http://support.microsoft.com/kb/839013 
but it did not change anything.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Enrico


Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> Try the latest version, which is about to be released:
>
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/Pd-0.40.3-
> extended-20080530-windowsxp-i386.exe
>
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest
>
> Or search puredata.info for the faq and search the faq for
> "localhost", I think it was something related to that.
>
> .hc
>
> On May 30, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Enrico Costanza wrote:
>
>   
>> Hello.
>>
>> I have pd 0.39-3 extended installed on my machine, but it does not
>> run.
>> If I try to launch pd.exe I can see the process in the task
>> manager, but
>> nothing happens.
>> If I try to launch on the command prompt  pd -verbose -d 5 -stderr
>> I get the following:
>>
>> input channels = 2, output channels = 2
>> set pd_whichapi 0
>> set pd_whichmidiapi 3
>> Pd version 0.39-3extended
>> compiled 06:04:42 Oct 16 2007
>> port 5400
>> Waiting for connection request...
>>
>> and it stops there.
>>
>> I tried reinstalling with no luck. I also tried the 0.41 version but I
>> always got the same.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>> I could not find anything on the web that seemed related.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Enrico
>>
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Re: [PD] pd not starting on winXP

2008-05-30 Thread Roman Haefeli


On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 15:44 +0200, Enrico Costanza wrote:
> Thanks for the replies.
> 
> I tried to disable the firewall, but that did not make a difference.
> 
> I installed the latest version (0.40.3) but I still got the same:
> 
> pdtk_post {input channels = 2, output channels = 2}
> set pd_whichapi 0
> set pd_whichmidiapi 3
> Pd version 0.40-3extended-20080530
> compiled 05:58:20 May 30 2008
> port 5400
> Waiting for connection request...
> 
> I found this FAQ:
> http://puredata.info/docs/faq
> but I could not see anything related to localhost. The closest thing I 
> found was the loopback network interface. I tried to install that on my 
> windows machine, as described on http://support.microsoft.com/kb/839013 
> but it did not change anything.
> 
> Any ideas?

sorry, i don't have any new ideas.

afaik, the problem regarding missing loopback device happened only on
ubuntu machines (hardy or gutsy, cannot recall exactly), whereas on
windows this kind of issues was related to restricted firewall settings
most of the times. afaik, a windows installation usually comes with a
loopback device already, there is no need to install it separately.

your problem strongly looks like a networking problem and i am quite
surprised, that disabling the firewall didn't help. just to make sure,
that not pd is the culprit, but connecting to localhost, you could try
the following:

pd is shipped with additional two tools: pdsend.exe and pdreceive.exe.
start pdreceive from a commandline:

pdreceive.exe 5400

and then try in another cmd to connect to it with pdsend.exe:

pdsend.exe 5400

if connection succeds, everything what you type into the pdsend cmd
should appear in the pdreceive cmd. don't forget to terminate each
message with a ';'.

if this fails, while the firewall is disabled, something else is needs
to be wrong with your network setup. someone with some deeper expertise
in networking on windows might help then.

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Re: [PD] pulse measurement using touch sensors

2008-05-30 Thread Thomas Grill

Hi list,
thank you all for your valuable input... i'll check out each of the  
options and probably come back to you later.

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Re: [PD] pd not starting on winXP

2008-05-30 Thread Enrico Costanza
Solved.

Thanks for suggesting the pdsend/pdreceive test.
It made me realize that I had an extra firewall in place (I thought I 
only had the windows firewall).
So opening it solved the problem.

Thanks!
Enrico


Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 15:44 +0200, Enrico Costanza wrote:
>   
>> Thanks for the replies.
>>
>> I tried to disable the firewall, but that did not make a difference.
>>
>> I installed the latest version (0.40.3) but I still got the same:
>>
>> pdtk_post {input channels = 2, output channels = 2}
>> set pd_whichapi 0
>> set pd_whichmidiapi 3
>> Pd version 0.40-3extended-20080530
>> compiled 05:58:20 May 30 2008
>> port 5400
>> Waiting for connection request...
>>
>> I found this FAQ:
>> http://puredata.info/docs/faq
>> but I could not see anything related to localhost. The closest thing I
>> found was the loopback network interface. I tried to install that on my
>> windows machine, as described on http://support.microsoft.com/kb/839013
>> but it did not change anything.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>
> sorry, i don't have any new ideas.
>
> afaik, the problem regarding missing loopback device happened only on
> ubuntu machines (hardy or gutsy, cannot recall exactly), whereas on
> windows this kind of issues was related to restricted firewall settings
> most of the times. afaik, a windows installation usually comes with a
> loopback device already, there is no need to install it separately.
>
> your problem strongly looks like a networking problem and i am quite
> surprised, that disabling the firewall didn't help. just to make sure,
> that not pd is the culprit, but connecting to localhost, you could try
> the following:
>
> pd is shipped with additional two tools: pdsend.exe and pdreceive.exe.
> start pdreceive from a commandline:
>
> pdreceive.exe 5400
>
> and then try in another cmd to connect to it with pdsend.exe:
>
> pdsend.exe 5400
>
> if connection succeds, everything what you type into the pdsend cmd
> should appear in the pdreceive cmd. don't forget to terminate each
> message with a ';'.
>
> if this fails, while the firewall is disabled, something else is needs
> to be wrong with your network setup. someone with some deeper expertise
> in networking on windows might help then.
>
> roman
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] default Save As location (was: [openpanel]/[savepanel]directory, [cd])

2008-05-30 Thread Martin Peach
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>On May 30, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Damian Stewart wrote:
>
>>>why not do what a lot of other apps do and persistently store the  
>>>last-used-directory somewhere in the config, so that next time I  open 
>>>Pd, Open is pointing to the same place as the last time I  closed it?
>>
>>so no love for this idea then?
>
>That could work too.  That would rely on the preferences system,  right now 
>it is not easy/clean to extend.  So maybe that would come  later.
>

It should be not too difficult (?) to have openpanel/savepanel save their 
current path in the .pd file when the patch is saved.
It seems to involve registering a save function using class_setsavefn() to 
replace the default text_save() with a panel_save() which would append the 
path symbol to the "#X obj x y openpanel" binbuf for the object. Then in the 
panel_new() routine the path will show up as an extra argument (I hope;) if 
it is redeclared as openpanel_new(t_symbol *s, int argc, t_atom argv) and 
adding a GIMME to the class_new() arguments.


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[PD] Sony HDR-HC5 + gem

2008-05-30 Thread potax flan
Hey
Any tips on how to make GEM get input from a firewire Sony HDR-HC5 ?
Best,
p
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Re: [PD] Sony HDR-HC5 + gem

2008-05-30 Thread chris clepper
I should also say that there are ways to use these cameras for capture other
than Firewire.  A PCI card like the Decklink Intensity can capture the
component analog or HDMI digital output of HDV cameras.  I have found analog
capture to be the most reliable.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:34 PM, chris clepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It is not possible on OSX, but can be done on Windows.  I don't know about
> Linux support.
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:26 PM, potax flan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Hey
>> Any tips on how to make GEM get input from a firewire Sony HDR-HC5 ?
>> Best,
>> p
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Re: [PD] Sony HDR-HC5 + gem

2008-05-30 Thread chris clepper
It is not possible on OSX, but can be done on Windows.  I don't know about
Linux support.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:26 PM, potax flan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey
> Any tips on how to make GEM get input from a firewire Sony HDR-HC5 ?
> Best,
> p
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Re: [PD] remote SL users..?

2008-05-30 Thread Luke Iannini
Yo,
I have also been bugging them : ).  I got an email from them two days
ago that has a nice development:

Hello Luke,

Automap SDK is still work in progress and I'm not able to say exactly
when we will be able to officially release this.

However we do have the documentation ready. It's available here:

http://focusrite.com/developer/doku.php

You can click on the RSS feed to get notification once the SDK is ready.

All the best,

Oliver B
-

Cheers
Luke

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 6:19 AM, Damian Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rich E wrote:
>> Any word back on the Novation SDK?  Although I just came across your
>> email, I have also talked to the Novation support about this SDK, and
>> about writing an external for pd that uses it.  But, as far as I know...
>> they never released this SDK, and that was months ago.
>>
>> I'll send Novation another email as well..
>
> i sent them one on the 2nd of May and got this in reply. basically, it's on
> their todo list, but at a low priority:
>
> Hi Damian,
>
> The SDK is scheduled amongst a huge list of other features which due to be
> release. As you can appreciate, our software developers have priorities
> (such the recent Automap 2 and Nocturn, as well as other ongoing
> developments) and I cannot commit our developers to an exact date. However
> I am positive that it will be release at some point. So please check back
> on our website in the future.
>
> Thank you in advance for your understanding.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Andy Leung
> Novation Support
>
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Re: [PD] default Save As location (was: [openpanel]/[savepanel]directory, [cd])

2008-05-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On May 30, 2008, at 7:19 PM, Martin Peach wrote:

> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> On May 30, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Damian Stewart wrote:
>>
 why not do what a lot of other apps do and persistently store  
 the  last-used-directory somewhere in the config, so that next  
 time I  open Pd, Open is pointing to the same place as the last  
 time I  closed it?
>>>
>>> so no love for this idea then?
>>
>> That could work too.  That would rely on the preferences system,   
>> right now it is not easy/clean to extend.  So maybe that would  
>> come  later.
>>
>
> It should be not too difficult (?) to have openpanel/savepanel save  
> their current path in the .pd file when the patch is saved.
> It seems to involve registering a save function using  
> class_setsavefn() to replace the default text_save() with a  
> panel_save() which would append the path symbol to the "#X obj x y  
> openpanel" binbuf for the object. Then in the panel_new() routine  
> the path will show up as an extra argument (I hope;) if it is  
> redeclared as openpanel_new(t_symbol *s, int argc, t_atom argv) and  
> adding a GIMME to the class_new() arguments.


Hmm, that does sound useful, wanna code it? :D

.hc


 


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Re: [PD] Sony HDR-HC5 + gem

2008-05-30 Thread potax flan
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 7:34 PM, chris clepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It is not possible on OSX, but can be done on Windows.  I don't know about
> Linux support.
>

good, cause i need it on windows. so any specific instructions to do that
under windows?
p
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Re: [PD] Sony HDR-HC5 + gem

2008-05-30 Thread chris clepper
Windows requires an MPEG-2 decoder.  I have used ffdshow in the past for HDV
cams.  DirectShow is a very tricky API so you will probably want to get
familiar with GraphEdit which can be downloaded from the MS developer site.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 6:02 PM, potax flan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 7:34 PM, chris clepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> It is not possible on OSX, but can be done on Windows.  I don't know about
>> Linux support.
>>
>
> good, cause i need it on windows. so any specific instructions to do that
> under windows?
> p
>
>
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