Re: [PD] Disabling a [gemhead] by default (Re: Writing texture to different sides of cube in GEM)
Claude Heiland-Allen a écrit : PSPunch wrote: I thought the dgemhead and repeat methods were just a matter of preference. If one is trendy and the other out dated, I guess I can just drop the one said to be less efficient. as far as I understand it, there are now 3 methods: 1: double [gemhead] 2: [repeat] 3: [until] with [gemlist] 2 and 3 is the same trick. it used to be made with repeat, but since the gemlist object you can now make it external free. 1 requires only Gem, but is least efficient 2 requires Gem and zexy, but is most efficient 3 requires only Gem, but Gem newer than a certain version 3 is very close to 2 in efficiency They may also have different behaviour, I think (1) implies a built-in [separator] which may or may not be what you want? yes, the repeat trick have an optional separator, so it's more flexible and can be used for iterative process like LSystem. cyrille Please correct this if I'm wrong! Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Csound opcode Moogladder to Pd?
Hallo, Claude Heiland-Allen hat gesagt: // Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: I think, it may also be possible to implement it as a pure Pd abstraction with some stacked [rpole~]s and fine tuning, as from a quick look it seems to be just a bunch of first order filters with tanh()-distorted filter coefficients. But quick looks may be deceiving ... You have been deceived, the filter has the tanh()s inside the recursive loops, so it's not a linear filter. I'm deceived too easily. ;) To make up for my mistake, I did a quick port of Victor's CSound code to a Pd external here: http://footils.org/pkg/moogladder-0.1.tgz It's just a quick copy-and-paste version, not really tested, so expect bugs and be careful with the volume! The makefile only has a pd_linux target, but it may be a start if someone wants to take over. Possible enhancements could include signal inlets for frequency and resonance instead of float inlets and maybe table lookup for the tanh-calculation instead of direct computation. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Csound opcode Moogladder to Pd?
Frank - that was fast! Thanks! I haven't had time to try it out yet but will report back when I get home. The csound opcode I've used myself is a modification of the original with signal input for cutoff (please find it attached). Signal input for both cutoff and resonance would of course be awesome. If anyone could compile a windows binary of this I would be very grateful. I use both winxp and ubuntu. /Anton ml_aak-csound.csd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Csound opcode Moogladder to Pd?
Hi, I once made some kind of implementation of the Moogladder filter to Pd. I never evaluated the implementation so I'm not sure if it really sounds as the Csound version or gives the same output as in the paper. It is kind of crude Pd code anyway. =) But I'll attach the patch here if you wan to give it a try? -Mika Message: 2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:49:11 +0200 From: Anton H?rnquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PD] Csound opcode Moogladder to Pd? To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've used the Csound opcode Moogladder (based on an algorithm by Antti Huovilainen) in Pd using csoundapi~. It uses a lot of cpu cycles but it sounds really good. The csoundapi~ external is useful but it only allows one instance per patch on windows so ideally I would like to have this opcode as a Pd abstraction or external and get rid of the csoundapi~ external. Is it possible to convert the Moogladder opcode to a Pd abstraction? Csound code: http://www.csounds.com/udo/displayOpcode.php?opcode_id=32 /Anton #N canvas 181 68 924 573 12; #X obj 47 316 phasor~ 100; #X obj 47 406 dac~; #X msg 51 202 \; pd dsp 1; #X msg 144 204 \; pd dsp 0; #N canvas 144 240 793 706 moog 1; #X obj 221 138 filter; #X obj 225 173 filter; #X obj 229 216 filter; #X obj 232 252 filter; #X obj 106 197 *~ 0; #X floatatom 148 177 5 0 0 0 - comp -; #X obj 72 489 *~ 0; #X floatatom 130 466 5 0 0 0 - res -; #X obj 71 522 *~ 4; #X obj 234 103 -~; #X obj 114 65 inlet~; #X obj 20 18 block~ 1 1 1; #X obj 71 559 delwrite~ delay 1; #X obj 74 403 fexpr~ tanh($x1[0]); #X obj 373 381 outlet~; #X obj 74 447 -~; #X obj 530 174 *~ 0; #X obj 481 199 *~ 0; #X obj 425 216 *~ 0; #X obj 382 247 *~ 0; #X obj 344 280 *~ 0; #X obj 593 154 r a; #X obj 579 186 r b; #X obj 557 215 r c; #X obj 518 241 r d; #X obj 495 281 r e; #X msg 46 261 stop; #X msg 16 294 start; #X obj 284 39 delread~ delay 0.002676; #X floatatom 556 328 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 540 623 s g; #X obj 557 410 / 44100; #X obj 556 355 * 6.2832; #X obj 635 379 samplerate~; #X obj 555 385 t f b; #X obj 561 469 pow 2; #X obj 611 466 pow 3; #X obj 664 466 pow 4; #X obj 644 497 * 0.0202; #X obj 486 496 * 0.4342; #X obj 394 496 * 0.9892; #X obj 557 440 t f f f f; #X obj 462 532 -; #X obj 618 527 -; #X obj 538 560 +; #X floatatom 540 594 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 572 497 * 0.1381; #X obj 557 291 r cut; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 0 0 17 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 1 0 18 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 19 0; #X connect 3 0 20 0; #X connect 3 0 13 0; #X connect 4 0 15 1; #X connect 5 0 4 1; #X connect 6 0 8 0; #X connect 7 0 6 1; #X connect 8 0 12 0; #X connect 9 0 0 0; #X connect 9 0 16 0; #X connect 10 0 9 0; #X connect 10 0 4 0; #X connect 13 0 15 0; #X connect 15 0 6 0; #X connect 16 0 14 0; #X connect 17 0 14 0; #X connect 18 0 14 0; #X connect 19 0 14 0; #X connect 20 0 14 0; #X connect 21 0 16 1; #X connect 22 0 17 1; #X connect 23 0 18 1; #X connect 24 0 19 1; #X connect 25 0 20 1; #X connect 26 0 13 0; #X connect 27 0 13 0; #X connect 28 0 9 1; #X connect 29 0 32 0; #X connect 31 0 41 0; #X connect 32 0 34 0; #X connect 33 0 31 1; #X connect 34 0 31 0; #X connect 34 1 33 0; #X connect 35 0 39 0; #X connect 36 0 46 0; #X connect 37 0 38 0; #X connect 38 0 43 1; #X connect 39 0 42 1; #X connect 40 0 42 0; #X connect 41 0 40 0; #X connect 41 1 35 0; #X connect 41 2 36 0; #X connect 41 3 37 0; #X connect 42 0 44 0; #X connect 43 0 44 1; #X connect 44 0 45 0; #X connect 45 0 30 0; #X connect 46 0 43 0; #X connect 47 0 29 0; #X restore 45 371 pd moog; #X floatatom 47 292 5 0 0 0 - freq -; #X floatatom 187 11 7 0 0 0 - freq -; #X obj 32 12 hsl 128 15 20 2 1 0 freq empty sawtooth_frequency -2 -8 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 186 47 7 0 0 0 - cut -; #X obj 31 48 hsl 128 15 1 14000 1 0 cut sweep filter_cutoff -2 -8 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 32 87 hsl 128 15 0 1 0 0 res empty filter_resonance -2 -8 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 188 83 5 0 0 0 - res -; #X obj 33 127 hsl 128 15 0 1 0 0 comp empty filter_comp -2 -8 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 192 123 5 0 0 0 - comp -; #X obj 312 16 vsl 15 128 -10 10 0 0 a empty A 0 -9 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 304 159 5 0 0 0 - a -; #X obj 366 16 vsl 15 128 -10 10 0 0 b empty B 0 -9 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 358 159 5 0 0 0 - b -; #X obj 420 16 vsl 15 128 -10 10 0 0 c empty C 0 -9 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 412 159 5 0 0 0 - c -; #X obj 470 13 vsl 15 128 -10 10 0 0 d empty D 0 -9 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 462 156 5 0 0 0 - d -; #X obj 521 12 vsl 15 128 -10 10 0 0 e empty E 0 -9 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 513 155 5 0 0 0 - e -; #X obj 279 304 noise~; #X obj 205 482 writesf~ 1; #X msg 238 426 start; #X msg 243 453 stop; #X obj 489 322 line; #X msg 537 268 1 4000; #X floatatom 491 358 5 0 0 0 - - sweep; #X msg 440 269 100; #X msg 198 393 open lowpass_500; #X connect 0 0 4 0; #X connect 4 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 1
Re: [PD] Csound opcode Moogladder to Pd?
Hallo, Anton H?rnquist hat gesagt: // Anton H?rnquist wrote: Frank - that was fast! Thanks! I haven't had time to try it out yet but will report back when I get home. The csound opcode I've used myself is a modification of the original with signal input for cutoff (please find it attached). Signal input for both cutoff and resonance would of course be awesome. I now made a version where cutoff and resonance are signals. This version is a bit more CPU intensive now, as some computations had to move into the DSP loop to react to the changes in center frequency. I played a bit with a rational tanh approximation from the music-dsp list but it didn't sound good anymore. If someone wants to play with other approximations e.g. table lookup: Just change the function mytanh. The filter response gets nasty and loud if the center frequency is near or above the sampling rate. Maybe it should be restricted as well. But then, resonance at 1 will make everyone jump, too... The updated code is at http://footils.org/pkg/moogladder-0.2.tgz Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] textBox (like in MAX)
Hello, Is there a lib somewhere that provide to pd the textBox object from MAX ? Thanks in advance, Damien ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] textBox (like in MAX)
you mean textfield? [entry] is quite similar. comes with pdx. marius. Damien Henry - Voxler wrote: Hello, Is there a lib somewhere that provide to pd the textBox object from MAX ? Thanks in advance, Damien ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] find formants from fft table
Hi Ricardo, i have written an external (sms_peaks~) that does exactly what you want. It is part of my naive but usable pd-based implementation of sms. It analyzes only half the signal vector as it is designed to work in combination with rfft~. Please see the help file. You can find it in my svn at https://svn.g.org/ext/trunk/ sms_peaks/ . I also put a binary for MacOS on http://g.org/ext/beta/pd/osx . all the best, Thomas Am 26.08.2008 um 07:44 schrieb Ricardo Dueñas Parada: Hi, I want to find the max values of a table what is the result of a fft. I tried using a counter and comparing manually, but it take too long, and I need to do it as fast as possible, without compromising audio processing. Do you know if there is some external what I can use to do that? I just need to do it one time for every block, or even less, I just want to know the formants of a sound (speech). Thanks. _Ricardo. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] textBox (like in MAX)
I've been working on [tkwidgets/text] but it's still a bit buggy. .hc On Aug 26, 2008, at 10:49 AM, marius schebella wrote: you mean textfield? [entry] is quite similar. comes with pdx. marius. Damien Henry - Voxler wrote: Hello, Is there a lib somewhere that provide to pd the textBox object from MAX ? Thanks in advance, Damien ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] flext/externals docs, svn + some new stuff!
I am not really a fan of svn:externals and before we start using them a lot, we really need to look at the issues. Thomas' system has been working for years. If it ain't broke, don't fix it :). .hc On Aug 23, 2008, at 3:18 PM, patrick wrote: hi, i think pd-dev people should remove externals/grill and like pdmtl / gridflow checkout your svn. it will avoid many questions about flext not being updated and such. but i can't checkout your svn. i think you need to permit anonymous checkout. pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
