Re: [PD] Berlin Pure Data Meetings
Unfortunately I'm out this month, or I would gladly try to do something. Is this a time-limited event, or you're staying for a while? (will be back around end of November) for something about me, you can read a fresh article in http://cec.concordia.ca/econtact/10_4/bernal_pais_endphase.html João Pais Hallo Berliner! Since now many of the pd-graz people are living in Berlin (or at least Michi Pinter and me for now ;), it would be nice to meet some Berlin pd people (or similar). I heard that there was a pd stammtisch here, but I guess it is not active anymore ? So if anyone is interested - let me know ! (We also plan to make a workshop at some other time - if someone wants to contribute or attend she/he is of course very welcome!) OK, I am happy for any reply, LG Georg PS: As I am new here - has maybe someone tips which things are good to go to here in Berlin ? Maybe some locations/mailinglists/websites with nice events or communities ? - Thanks for any hints ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin Deutschland Tel +49 30 42020091 Mob +49 162 6843570 [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jmmmpjmmmp http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp IBM Thinkpad R51, XP, Ubuntu GG Pd-Ext-0.39-2-t5, Pd Van 0.40-t2 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Sending Textures
Joseph Barrows wrote: Hi Hans, thanks - it does work! what had changed was that pix_texture wouldn't do anything untill it was in a gem chain (which it didn't need in .39, but was probably an accidental 'feature') i would call it a bug. all gem-objects should only do anything (graphic wise) when connected correctly to the gemchain. fmasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Testing for empty creation args?
Hallo, Bill Gribble hat gesagt: // Bill Gribble wrote: I am doing something like this: |loadbang| | |symbol $1| | |readfile $1 cr, rewind( | |textfile| There's also an interface to set the filename later. Use this instead: [list append $1] | [select 0] |\ [nofile( [s $0-FILENAME] | [s $0-FILENAME] Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] expr modulo negative
Hallo, Hans Roels hat gesagt: // Hans Roels wrote: Hello, If you want to calculate the modulo of a negative number, you get a different result if you use the 'mod' object or 'expr' with %. -1 4 || mod | 3 -1 4 | | expr $f1 % $f2 | -1 I guess this is a bug in expr ? Not really: Pd also has a builting [% ] object, which behaves like the % in expr. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] expr modulo negative
Hans Roels wrote: Hello, If you want to calculate the modulo of a negative number, you get a different result if you use the 'mod' object or 'expr' with %. -1 4 || mod | 3 -1 4 | | expr $f1 % $f2 | -1 I guess this is a bug in expr ? you also get a different result if you use [mod] or [%]. it's a feature. fgmasdr IOhannes Hans r ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] expr modulo negative
you can use pd [mod] object or [%] object. it's not the same for negative umber. expr % is the same than pd %. so i don't see any bug. Cyrille Hans Roels a écrit : Hello, If you want to calculate the modulo of a negative number, you get a different result if you use the 'mod' object or 'expr' with %. -1 4 || mod | 3 -1 4 | | expr $f1 % $f2 | -1 I guess this is a bug in expr ? Hans r ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] expr modulo negative
[%] and [mod] treat the sign differently. [mod] is monotonic but [%] is symmetrical about zero. On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:45:50 +0100 Hans Roels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, If you want to calculate the modulo of a negative number, you get a different result if you use the 'mod' object or 'expr' with %. -1 4 || mod | 3 -1 4 | | expr $f1 % $f2 | -1 I guess this is a bug in expr ? Hans r ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] 'argument number out of range' error in Miller Puckette's example patches
Hi, I can't resolve this - in the example patch folder 2.control.examples the example 10.more.messages has to the lower right a message ; number9 $1; 9bis $2 which generates the above message when activated. the other examples with $1 and $2 in the same patch, for instance just before the [print] object work fine. I wouldn't see anything wrong in the example. The same error is generated in example 13.locality in the same folder (upon opening the example). I'm aware that this example is a different case because the $ sign is used in an object whereas in the previous example it is in a message box. However it may be the same error? Best Jurgen ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pyext compile ubuntu
hi Thomas and Patco, i had the same errors as you Patco but i finally managed to compile pyext on hardy, python2.5 this way: get sources from svn co https://svn.g.org/ext/trunk/flext svn co https://svn.g.org/ext/trunk/py compile flext compile py: cd py bash ../flext/build.sh pd gcc edit config.txt # what is the base prefix of the Python installation? PYTHONPREFIX=/usr # which Python version do you want to compile against? PYTHONVERSION=2.5 # uncomment if numpy/numarray/numeric support should be compiled in # for info see http://numeric.scipy.org # PY_NUMPY=1 PY_NUMARRAY=1 # PY_NUMERIC=1 # use thread-safe GIL functionality (do this for python version = 2.3!) # PY_USE_GIL=1 # use inofficial (pure data) functionality # PY_USE_INOFFICIAL=1 best regards, vincent Thomas Grill a écrit : Hi, i just realized that you have numeric (and not numpy) installed. While py/pyext supports all three flavors of Python array packages (numarray, numeric and numpy) methinks that numpy is the only canonical choice at this time, while the others are outdated. Therefore, the py/pyext build system is geared to numpy. gr~~~ Am 25.09.2008 um 22:06 schrieb patco: hello, I've got py working but it wasn't easy: py/pyext 0.2.1pre - python script objects (C)2002-2008 Thomas Grill - http://g.org/ext using Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Jul 31 2008, 17:44:49) [GCC 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)] Python array support enabled attached is a very dirty patch of file that misses Numeric path, sorry I don't know enough c++ to do something better. Le jeudi 25 septembre 2008 à 18:28 +0200, Thomas Grill a écrit : Ooops, sorry i missed the $ locate command. If adjusting things in config.txt doesn't work check out the scripts in the build folder that are relevant for your platform. gr~~~ Am 25.09.2008 um 17:30 schrieb Thomas Grill: Hi, with the poor remainders of my knowledge of the french language i would suppose that you don't have numerical Python (numpy) installed. You can a) Install it and adjust the paths in config.txt b) comment out NUMPY=1 or whatever indicates usage of numpy in config.txt gr~~~ Am 25.09.2008 um 15:59 schrieb patco: Hello, I've rebuilt flext with sources from https://svn.g.org/ext/ trunk and py with both sources from puredata svn and g svn gives this error: source/pybuffer.cpp:36:33: erreur: numpy/arrayobject.h : Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type $ locate arrayobject.h /usr/include/python2.4/Numeric/arrayobject.h /usr/include/python2.5/Numeric/arrayobject.h thanks for answers Le jeudi 25 septembre 2008 à 15:15 +0200, Thomas Grill a écrit : Hi, from which svn did you download? The pd svn is outdated and not the authoritative source. Please follow the links on http://puredata.info/Members/thomas/ gr~~~ Am 24.09.2008 um 16:42 schrieb patco: hi, I've just downloaded flext and py sources from svn, and tried with both python 2.4 and 2.5, same errors: $ bash ../flext/build.sh pd gcc build make -f ../flext/buildsys/gnumake-sub.mak PLATFORM=lnx RTSYS=pd COMPILER=gcc BUILDPATH=../flext/buildsys/ PKGINFO=package.txt BUILDCLASS=ext USRCONFIG=config.txt USRMAKE=build/gnumake-lnx- gcc.inc TARGETMODE=release TARGETTYPE=multi THREADED=1 _build_ make[1]: entrant dans le répertoire « /home/patco/Bureau/pd- devel/ py » mkdir -p pd-linux/release-multi mkdir -p pd-linux/release-multi/ g++ -c -msse -mfpmath=sse -ffast-math -O3 -march=pentium4 - pthread -fPIC -DPY_EXPORTS -DPY_NUMPY -DPY_USE_GIL -DNDEBUG - DFLEXT_THREADS -DFLEXT_SYS=2 -DPD -I/usr/include/python2.5 -I/home/patco/Bureau/pd-devel/pd/src -I/usr/include/stk -I/usr/include/sndobj -I/usr/include/flext source/main.cpp -o pd-linux/release-multi/main.opp In file included from source/pybase.h:16, from source/main.cpp:13: source/main.h:34: erreur: expected class-name before «{» token In file included from source/main.cpp:13: /usr/include/flext/flcontainers.h: In member function «void TypedFifoT::Put(T*) [with T = FifoEl]»: source/pybase.h:181: instantiated from here /usr/include/flext/flcontainers.h:456: erreur: no matching function for call to «TypedFifoFifoEl::Put(FifoEl*)» /usr/include/flext/flcontainers.h:405: note: candidats sont: void Fifo::Put(Lifo::Cell*) /usr/include/flext/flcontainers.h: In member function «T* TypedLifoT::Pop() [with T = FifoEl]»: /usr/include/flext/flcontainers.h:466: instantiated from «T* PooledFifoT, M, O::New() [with T = FifoEl, int M = 2, int O = 1]» source/pybase.h:179: instantiated from here /usr/include/flext/flcontainers.h:380: erreur: invalid static_cast from type «Lifo::Cell*» to type «FifoEl*» make[1]: *** [pd-linux/release-multi/main.opp] Erreur 1 make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /home/patco/Bureau/pd-devel/ py » make: *** [build-release-multi] Erreur 2
Re: [PD] live distro with pd extended
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 17:07 +0200, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Hi List Well maybe it was discussed before I am looking for a live distro like puredyne , that i can start from a CD, with my patches on an usb stick. Since i have to usse a foreign computer for a performance. I tried with puredyne but i am missing many externals from pd- extended Is there anything like a debian-live cd with the complete and full pd- extended ?? i'm no expert in live distro area, but why don't you simply add the missing externals to the pure:dyne usb installation? i guess, it is easier to adapt the pd inside the distro than to adapt the distro around pd-extended. roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] live distro with pd extended
Hi List Well maybe it was discussed before I am looking for a live distro like puredyne , that i can start from a CD, with my patches on an usb stick. Since i have to usse a foreign computer for a performance. I tried with puredyne but i am missing many externals from pd- extended Is there anything like a debian-live cd with the complete and full pd- extended ?? Thanks luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] live distro with pd extended
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 17:50 +0200, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: On Oct 14, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi List Well maybe it was discussed before I am looking for a live distro like puredyne , that i can start from a CD, with my patches on an usb stick. Since i have to usse a foreign computer for a performance. I tried with puredyne but i am missing many externals from pd- extended Is there anything like a debian-live cd with the complete and full pd- extended ?? i'm no expert in live distro area, but why don't you simply add the missing externals to the pure:dyne usb installation? i guess, it is easier to adapt the pd inside the distro than to adapt the distro around pd-extended. roman I didnt manage tocompile them...due to.c compiler missing i think . and the repository - thing with apt-get didnt work as i expected it hm first check, what frank suggested. then, if you still are missing something, you could try to simply copy the missing libraries from a pd-extended archive's /extra do the pd-install/extra on your pure:dyne. roman ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] RjDj hits TechCrunch
I've been off the list for a while so I missed the buzz around RjDj. It seems it's hit TechCrunch, which is pretty mainstream coverage for a Pd-based app: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/13/rjdj-generates-an-awesome-trippy-soundtrack-for-your-life/ Great work! Jamie -- www.postlude.co.uk http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiebullock ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Help with compressor/limiter abstraction
Hallo, I'm trying to build a pure-Pd compressor/limiter effect. I followed a chapter in the Csound book a bit (by Marc Resibois), but somehow it's still a bit strange. I would appreciate if someone could test out the attachemend and maybe even enhance it? Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ compress~-help.pd Description: application/puredata compress~.pd Description: application/puredata ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Testing for empty creation args?
On Oct 14, 2008, at 7:56 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Bill Gribble hat gesagt: // Bill Gribble wrote: I am doing something like this: |loadbang| | |symbol $1| | |readfile $1 cr, rewind( | |textfile| There's also an interface to set the filename later. Use this instead: [list append $1] | [select 0] |\ [nofile( [s $0-FILENAME] | [s $0-FILENAME] since this does not differentiate between no args and 0, i prefer the attached version (too complicated for ascii art) fmgasdr IOhannes Wow, that is a crazy hack, I don't quite get how it works. I guess if there are no args, then Pd doesn't do the replacement at all? Then the 0 comes from things being inited to 0? That would be awesome to have as a reusable abstraction, but that sounds tough. .hc Ciao #N canvas 351 18 450 490 10; #X obj 187 246 list append \$1; #X msg 138 131 bang; #X obj 134 202 select s; #X obj 134 152 t b b; #X obj 242 179 makefilename $%d-test; #X obj 134 179 symbol \$1-test; #X msg 242 159 1; #X obj 187 224 t b; #X obj 8 292 t b; #X text 15 312 no arg given; #X text 217 225 this is \$1; #X obj 8 332 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 187 279 print arg1; #X connect 0 0 12 0; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 8 0; #X connect 2 1 7 0; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 3 1 6 0; #X connect 4 0 2 1; #X connect 5 0 2 0; #X connect 6 0 4 0; #X connect 7 0 0 0; #X connect 8 0 11 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free software means someone else controls that, and to some extent controls you. - Richard M. Stallman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] PDa package for OpenMoko Freerunner GTA02
Hey, I just uploaded a test build of PDa for OpenMoko Freerunner GTA02. I haven't had a chance to test it yet, so give it a shot and post back about your experiences with it. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php? group_id=236704package_id=287575 There are also Tcl/Tk packages in case OpenMoko doesn't provide any: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php? group_id=236704package_id=295064 .hc Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Testing for empty creation args?
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 13:56 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: since this does not differentiate between no args and 0, i prefer the attached version (too complicated for ascii art) fmgasdr IOhannes wow! this is smart. how often could i have used that! i wonder now, if there are other uses as well of using a dollar argument this way. thanks for sharing! roman ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] expr modulo negative
maybe someone could explain _what_ the difference is? that would be enlightening vor everybody. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Testing for empty creation args?
Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: since this does not differentiate between no args and 0, i prefer the attached version (too complicated for ascii art) That's neat! I've never tought of this approach, thanks for posting. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] expr modulo negative
ok, so there is no expr function identical to the 'mod' object? Hans r At 13:09 14/10/2008, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans Roels hat gesagt: // Hans Roels wrote: Hello, If you want to calculate the modulo of a negative number, you get a different result if you use the 'mod' object or 'expr' with %. -1 4 || mod | 3 -1 4 | | expr $f1 % $f2 | -1 I guess this is a bug in expr ? Not really: Pd also has a builting [% ] object, which behaves like the % in expr. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Berlin Pure Data Meetings
Yar, me too. Shame no up north UK action. Would have liked to check it. Best, Jb From: hard off [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 October 2008 23:21 To: Julian Brooks Subject: Re: [PD] Berlin Pure Data Meetings oh sorry, should have posted to the list. just did thurs fri sat in bristol london brighton. will play in antwerp on the 17th of october at the breakcore gives me wood party. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] live distro with pd extended
On Oct 14, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi List Well maybe it was discussed before I am looking for a live distro like puredyne , that i can start from a CD, with my patches on an usb stick. Since i have to usse a foreign computer for a performance. I tried with puredyne but i am missing many externals from pd- extended Is there anything like a debian-live cd with the complete and full pd- extended ?? i'm no expert in live distro area, but why don't you simply add the missing externals to the pure:dyne usb installation? i guess, it is easier to adapt the pd inside the distro than to adapt the distro around pd-extended. roman I didnt manage tocompile them...due to.c compiler missing i think . and the repository - thing with apt-get didnt work as i expected it hm ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Testing for empty creation args?
I am doing something like this: |loadbang| | |symbol $1| | |readfile $1 cr, rewind( | |textfile| There's also an interface to set the filename later. Because of the later message processing, it would be nice not to send the read message if there is no creation arg. Is there a straightforward way to do that? Thanks, Bill Gribble ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 'argument number out of range' error in Miller Puckette's example patches
Lao Yu wrote: Hi, I can't resolve this - in the example patch folder 2.control.examples the example 10.more.messages has to the lower right a message ; number9 $1; 9bis $2 which generates the above message when activated. the other examples with $1 and $2 in the same patch, for instance just before the [print] object work fine. I wouldn't see anything wrong in the example. The same error is generated in example 13.locality in the same folder (upon opening the example). I'm aware that this example is a different case because the $ sign is used in an object whereas in the previous example it is in a message box. However it may be the same error? there's nothing wrong with the behaviour you are experiencing. the thing is: you shouldn't click directly on the message-box containing the $args, but rather click on the message-box above it. the $1 and $2 will be magically replaced by 45, resp. 67, which is what the example is trying to show you. dreictly clicking on the message-box will not provide any arguments to replace the $args, this is why you get the error-message. mfg.asdr# IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] expr modulo negative
Hello, If you want to calculate the modulo of a negative number, you get a different result if you use the 'mod' object or 'expr' with %. -1 4 || mod | 3 -1 4 | | expr $f1 % $f2 | -1 I guess this is a bug in expr ? Hans r ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Testing for empty creation args?
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Bill Gribble hat gesagt: // Bill Gribble wrote: I am doing something like this: |loadbang| | |symbol $1| | |readfile $1 cr, rewind( | |textfile| There's also an interface to set the filename later. Use this instead: [list append $1] | [select 0] |\ [nofile( [s $0-FILENAME] | [s $0-FILENAME] since this does not differentiate between no args and 0, i prefer the attached version (too complicated for ascii art) fmgasdr IOhannes Ciao #N canvas 351 18 450 490 10; #X obj 187 246 list append \$1; #X msg 138 131 bang; #X obj 134 202 select s; #X obj 134 152 t b b; #X obj 242 179 makefilename $%d-test; #X obj 134 179 symbol \$1-test; #X msg 242 159 1; #X obj 187 224 t b; #X obj 8 292 t b; #X text 15 312 no arg given; #X text 217 225 this is \$1; #X obj 8 332 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 187 279 print arg1; #X connect 0 0 12 0; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 8 0; #X connect 2 1 7 0; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 3 1 6 0; #X connect 4 0 2 1; #X connect 5 0 2 0; #X connect 6 0 4 0; #X connect 7 0 0 0; #X connect 8 0 11 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] live distro with pd extended
Hallo, Luigi Rensinghoff hat gesagt: // Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: I tried with puredyne but i am missing many externals from pd- extended Are they really missing? pure:dyne includes many many externals, but doesn't use the directory layout of Pd extended, AFAIK, so you may be able to load the objects with their original names. Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] first Reware Pd image for Palm TX released
Hey, http://eds.org/~hans/reware-pd-PalmTX.tar.bz2 I just put up a complete image and kernel for the Palm TX. Just download, untar to an SD card, stick it in your Palm TX, then click the Linux Penguin and voila! It should work. BE SURE YOU SYNC YOUR PALM FIRST! It might corrupt things! It hasn't so far for me, but it does reset the date to 1942. This might work on other Palm Tungstens too, I haven't tried it, but they are relatively similar. It might also cause problems with it, I don't know, do so at your own risk. .hc Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] expr modulo negative
I think that since Miller is a self-described math geek, the difference is that [mod] behaves like the mathematical (mod n). [%] is the modulo operator used by computer science. If my memory serves me, in number theory and abstract algebra, the m (mod n) notation is used to define a subset of the integers (called a congruence class) which contains n-1 elements. For example, 5 (mod 3) == 2. Likewise, -5 (mod 3) == -2 (mod 3) == 1 (mod 3) == 1. Note that my use of == here represents congruence and not necessarily equality. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_arithmetic for a much more informed discussion of this topic. ~Kyle On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Max [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maybe someone could explain _what_ the difference is? that would be enlightening vor everybody. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- - - - -- http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] expr modulo negative
thank you andy. i guess it is a bug anyway, not in the objects, but in the documentation. both open the same helppatch with no mention about the difference. max Am 14.10.2008 um 14:32 schrieb Andy Farnell: [%] and [mod] treat the sign differently. [mod] is monotonic but [%] is symmetrical about zero. On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:45:50 +0100 Hans Roels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, If you want to calculate the modulo of a negative number, you get a different result if you use the 'mod' object or 'expr' with %. -1 4 || mod | 3 -1 4 | | expr $f1 % $f2 | -1 I guess this is a bug in expr ? Hans r ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list