Re: [PD] data-struct: (x:y) & move object

2009-02-16 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
João Pais hat gesagt: // João Pais wrote:

>> Maybe check out this:
>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-10/055597.html
>
> it didn't help that much. but then I noticed that there was a tutorial  
> with it, so I could understand it better.
>
> are there any other still undocumented features? I already noticed that  
> struct outputs more than select/deselect - specially in pd-van.

I don't think, Pd-extended has different DS features than Pd vanilla.

(x:y) is documented in 4.data.structures/09.scaling.pd

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Re: [PD] data-struct: (x:y) & move object

2009-02-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 2/17/09, João Pais  wrote:

> From: João Pais 
> Subject: Re: [PD] data-struct: (x:y) & move object
> To: "Frank Barknecht" , pd-list@iem.at
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 12:34 AM
> > Maybe check out this:
> >
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-10/055597.html
> 
> it didn't help that much. but then I noticed that there
> was a tutorial  
> with it, so I could understand it better.
> 
> are there any other still undocumented features? I already
> noticed that  
> struct outputs more than select/deselect - specially in
> pd-van.

Check here:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.multimedia.puredata.general/55635/match=struct+outlet

I made a gui editor that uses all of these except maybe displace.  It's in the 
pal folder in ds-gui in SVN if you want to check it out (though it's not 
documented very well).


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[PD] Wii and HID workshop - Toronto - Feb. 22nd

2009-02-16 Thread carey dodge
Hello all,

please share with your friends and colleagues...

sorry for cross-postings...


How to Put the Wow in Your Wii!
Learn how to hook up your Wii/joystick/homemade controller to control sound
and video effects and stuff in your favourite software.

Location: Location: NAISA space @ Wychwood Barns, Studio #252 (map & info) (
www.naisa.ca)
Time: Feb 22nd, 10am-4pm
Pre-registration required
Call to register 416-516-7413 or email na...@naisa.ca
Cost: $100

Description: Do you want to add more interactivity to your Ableton Live
session?  Are you are looking for other ways to create complex effects in
your compositions?  Do you want to feel as hip as your five year-old kid?
In this full day introductory workshop we will hook up your favourite HID
(Human Interface Device), learn some mapping techniques, and create software
that does cool stuff.

This is a great workshop for the
composer/musician/performer/video/installation artist or curious person who
feels limited by the keyboard and mouse, and wants to experiment with
different ways to interact with computers.  Experimenting with various HIDs
can open up new and exciting possibilities for performance and complex sound
and video effects.

more details at: http://www.careydodge.ca/WiiWorkshop.html

Cheers,

Carey
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Re: [PD] data-struct: (x:y) & move object

2009-02-16 Thread João Pais
> Maybe check out this:
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-10/055597.html

it didn't help that much. but then I noticed that there was a tutorial  
with it, so I could understand it better.

are there any other still undocumented features? I already noticed that  
struct outputs more than select/deselect - specially in pd-van.

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[PD] [PD-announce] SuperCollider workshops in New York, early April; SC Symposium 2009 at Wesleyan

2009-02-16 Thread Nick Collins
Since the PdCon09 details just got posted directly to the  
SuperCollider list, you obviously won't mind notice of the workshops  
below, nor notification of the SuperCollider symposium at Wesleyan,  
CT, April 9-12th (http://supercollider.wesleyan.edu/),

cheers,
Nick


[apologies for cross postings]

SUPERCOLLIDER WORKSHOPS APRIL 2009

All details and sign-up at:
http://tinyurl.com/harvestcollider

SuperCollider workshops will be offered at Harvestworks in New York  
in early April, in the run up to the 2009 SuperCollider Symposium to  
be held at Wesleyan (http://supercollider.wesleyan.edu/). This is a  
rare opportunity to learn from some of the SuperCollider developers  
themselves. SuperCollider is an incredible environment and  
programming language for music and audio. It provides an interpreted  
object-oriented language which functions as a network client to a  
state of the art, realtime sound synthesis server. SuperCollider was  
written by James McCartney over a period of many years, and is now an  
actively maintained and developed open source project. It is used by  
musicians, scientists, and artists working with sound and audiovisuals.

All workshops require attendees to bring their own laptops; tutors  
will assist with installation on OS X (10.4 or later recommended) and  
Windows as necessary (SC also runs on Linux but it's assumed you'd  
have compiled and installed it yourself in advance of the workshop if  
you're using that platform).

The workshops being offered are:

1) Saturday 4th April: Beginners day (11am-6pm). A friendly  
introduction to SuperCollider for absolute beginners, aimed at  
artists and musicians. Aside from a little familiarity with the  
digital arts, no prerequisites, though some prior exposure to  
computer music (perhaps through Max/MSP or Csound) may be helpful.  
(led by Nick Collins, Dan Stowell, Jan Trützschler) $100

2) Sunday 5th April: Intermediate workshop day (11am-6pm). For those  
with some experience, but wanting to refresh and broaden their SC  
skills. Topics will include sound synthesis and analysis, interaction  
via GUI and controllers, generative and network music, SC programming  
tips and tricks and SC architecture. We will also be adaptable to  
participants needs, can take requests for topics, and have some  
general question and answer sessions. (led by Nick Collins, Dan  
Stowell, Jan Trützschler) $100

3) Monday 6th April evening (7-10pm). Beginner's evening session. A  
friendly introduction to SuperCollider for absolute beginners, aimed  
at artists and musicians. Aside from a little familiarity with the  
digital arts, no prerequisites, though some prior exposure to  
computer music (perhaps through Max/MSP or Csound) may be helpful.  
(led by Nick Collins, Dan Stowell, Jan Trützschler)

4) Tuesday 7th April daytime (11-6). Abstract pressure cookers and  
virtual steam machines: Just in time programming in networks.
Not tweaking machines, but writing letters: Programs that program  
programs, machines that recombine structures. Replacing their parts,  
in effect writing their user manual at runtime. Instead of giving in  
to pressure to become virtuosos, we listen how the machines take the  
pressure - from spooky action at a distance to new exploring logics  
of distributed noise music. A collective workshop for live coding,  
sound synthesis, randomness in order. (led by Powerbooks Unplugged:  
Alberto de Campo, Echo Ho, Hannes Hölzl,  Jan-Kees van Kampen, Julian  
Rohrhuber, Renate Wieser) $100

5) Tuesday 7th April evening (7-10pm). Compact version of Tuesday  
daytime session (led by Powerbooks Unplugged) $50

6) Wednesday 8th April daytime (11-6) SuperCollider Clinic. Flexible  
topic sessions, following participant needs, adaptable to all  
intermediate levels (beginners would find Saturday or Mon night  
helpful before this workshop). Developers will be on hand to answer  
questions, to present on special topics, and to demonstrate projects  
and works built with SC. (led by an all star cast of developers) $100


workshops at:
Harvestworks Digital Media Arts Center
596 Broadway, #602
New York, NY 10012


































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[PD] Some abstractions for you to take

2009-02-16 Thread Thomas Mayer
Hi,

as I am not a total newbie to Pd any more, I would like to share some of
my abstractions with the list, that I have made for my live performances
which consist of recording audio and midi loops live and play them back.

Another thing I have posted on my website is my "vj bot" that uses Gem,
maybe it is also an inspiration to some people on this list, although
not really well done ;)

http://www.residuum.org/pd.html

cu Thomas
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Re: [PD] no download

2009-02-16 Thread Hans Roels
OK, the zip file isn't a problem, I just wanted to say that the link 
wasn't working and now that's solved...thanks!
Hans r

At 20:33 16/02/2009, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>Hans Roels wrote:
>>Hello,
>>There seems to be a problem if you want to download the most recent 
>>version of Pd vanilla on http://puredata.info/downloads
>>The windows installer file doesn't seem to exist on the server. I 
>>tried it last week and also today without succes.
>
>well, the official download-site of Pd-vanilla links from 
>http://puredata.info/downloads to http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/ 
>(miller's homepage). all other downloads of Pd-vanilla are merely 
>distributions on mirrors.
>as can be seen on miller's site, there is no w32-installer (for 
>whatever reasons). you have to go and get the zip-file.
>
>this is really not a big deal, as the "installer" is basically a 
>self-extracting zip. if you know how to unzip such archive, then you 
>are there...
>
>
>>Using other mirror sites also didn't work. I remember someone else 
>>told me a few weeks ago there was a problem, so I guess it must 
>>have been impossible to download this windows version for a few weeks now.
>
>i changed the link now to point to the .zip file
>
>fgmasdr
>IOhannes
>
>


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Re: [PD] no download

2009-02-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig

Hans Roels wrote:

Hello,

There seems to be a problem if you want to download the most recent 
version of Pd vanilla on http://puredata.info/downloads
The windows installer file doesn't seem to exist on the server. I 
tried it last week and also today without succes. 


well, the official download-site of Pd-vanilla links from 
http://puredata.info/downloads to http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/ (miller's 
homepage). all other downloads of Pd-vanilla are merely distributions on 
mirrors.
as can be seen on miller's site, there is no w32-installer (for whatever 
reasons). you have to go and get the zip-file.


this is really not a big deal, as the "installer" is basically a 
self-extracting zip. if you know how to unzip such archive, then you are 
there...



Using other mirror 
sites also didn't work. I remember someone else told me a few weeks 
ago there was a problem, so I guess it must have been impossible to 
download this windows version for a few weeks now.


i changed the link now to point to the .zip file

fgmasdr
IOhannes


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[PD] no download

2009-02-16 Thread Hans Roels
Hello,

There seems to be a problem if you want to download the most recent 
version of Pd vanilla on http://puredata.info/downloads
The windows installer file doesn't seem to exist on the server. I 
tried it last week and also today without succes. Using other mirror 
sites also didn't work. I remember someone else told me a few weeks 
ago there was a problem, so I guess it must have been impossible to 
download this windows version for a few weeks now.

Hans r


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Re: [PD] sprintf in Osx

2009-02-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Then you'll need to load the 'cyclone' library.  You can do that many  
ways, here are two objects that would work:

[cyclone/sprintf]

or

[import cyclone]
[sprintf]

.hc


On Feb 16, 2009, at 4:22 AM, maths...@libero.it wrote:

> Thanks a lot for your answer,
>
>> Upgrade to the release version of 0.40.3, it works for me there.
>
> unfortunately it keeps on not working; for example, if I open the  
> [makefilename] help patch and go to the related object, it doesn't  
> fine any of the following objects:
>
> [strcat], [makesimbol], [sprintf], [ascseq].
>
> Regards. marco
>
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2009, at 9:50 AM, maths...@libero.it wrote:
>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for [sprintf] in Mac OsX 10.4.11, I'm using Pd 0.40.3-
>>> extended-20080627 on an intel machine.. Any suggestion?
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot. Marco Liuni
>>>
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[PD] FW: the old mcgill-max-mailing-list

2009-02-16 Thread steffen scholl



hello,who can tell something about the first max-mailing list (the mcgill-list) 
and chris murtagh? i would be very thankful for any information... regards,steff

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[PD] gem video capture ohci1394

2009-02-16 Thread Loic Kessous
Hi,

I try to use a ieee camera into pd on linux ubuntu hardy (for the  
moment with gem pix_video).

I succeeded to make it work with 'coriander' 
(http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/coriander/ 
) .

but not with Pd... I actually don't know what I am supposed to send  
instead of the message:

[device /dev/dv1394/0] , which is not working as it is not a dv cam.

I saw in /dev that there is also a 'video1394' but I didn't get any  
success with messages like [device /dev/video1394/0]

according to the datasheet of the cam the driver is 'ieee1394b ohci'  
and the cam is IIDC compliant, I saw in the help file that 'no raw1394  
is supported but I don't know if it concern the one I use.

the pci card:
FWB-PCI02 (http://www.ioi.com.tw/products/proddetail.aspx? 
ProdID=1060074), but apparently there isn't any problem with it as it  
is listed by the command 'lshw' and any way it works with Coriander.

the ieee camera:
point grey research FL2-08S2C (http://www.ptgrey.com/products/flea2/)

any suggestions ?

best,

loic
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended on AMD 64

2009-02-16 Thread Loic Kessous
I managed to make pd working (more or less) too but I had several  
problems , so I decide to install the 32 bits version of ubuntu hardy  
and now all the externals are loaded.

I will probably get a new computer for this project soon and then I  
will maybe use this 64 bits machine to try and test the .deb (possibly  
to contribute to build it too).
-loic

On Feb 13, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Ilias Anagnostopoulos wrote:

> As of today, I have regained access to an Ubuntu Hardy amd64  
> machine. I
> will download and test John Harrison's deb next week.
>
> I can host the deb on the OtherSide Ubuntu APT if this is fine with  
> you
> John.
>
> If anybody else wants to test that deb, please let us know of your  
> findings.
>
> -Ilias
>
> John Harrison wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ilias Anagnostopoulos wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone got a
>>> 64-bit binary ready that would be good enough as a 64-bit release
>>> (John Harisson was hosting one)?
>> I have a .deb and corresponding directions for building. The .deb was
>> built on a 64 bit Hardy machine. It worked for my purposes and I
>> didn't find anything broken but I can't say whether it is good enough
>> for release without further testing. Since I made that .deb I updated
>> my machine from 64 bit Hardy to 32 bit Intrepid so I'm not in a great
>> position to continue building and development of a 64 bit release,  
>> but
>> I am glad to help out if there is a place for me.
>>
>> .deb and instructions:
>> http://cratel.wichita.edu/cratel/cratel_Pd_extended_on_bit_64_Debian-based_OS
>>
>> (to be moved to the Pd wiki within the week)
>>
>> -John
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[PD] Wireless contact mics

2009-02-16 Thread nick burge

Hello Oded.
I use wireless contact mics in a couple of projects. Both requiring freedom
of movement for the object to be miked up.
(See the links below)

http://www.myspace.com/entretenidos
http://www.cryingoutloud.org/event_stretch.php

I make my own pickups (piezo ceramic discs) and pre-amps: I've often used
this schematic which gives me a good result.
http://scotthelmke.com/Mint-box-buffer.html
I plug the signal from my pre-amp into the sennheiser freeport radio mic
system which is good value for money, but limited to 4 transmitter/receivers
at once which is more than enough for me. (it has a setting to alter the
gain of the transmitter for instrument or microphone) The connection is
conveniently based on mini-jacks.
Did you have a specific problem or question I could maybe help you with?
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Re: [PD] 1968's visual programming style

2009-02-16 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
lukasz hat gesagt: // lukasz wrote:

> http://academicearth.org/lectures/user-interface-i-alan-kay
> It will start about 23 min 30 s.
> Did you, developers, 've seen GRAIL before? Some of the things are just
> beautiful there, like basically drawing whole thing, not interferring
> and switching between mouse and keyboard (which annoys me in PD).

Another seminal paper in this regard is Bill Sutherland's thesis from
1966:

Title:  The on-line graphical specification of computer procedures.
Authors:Sutherland, William Robert
Advisor:Claude E. Shannon.

http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/13474

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[PD] [ot] Media.Art.Research Award 2009

2009-02-16 Thread marius schebella
hi all,
off-topic, but might be of interest for some of you, this year's media
art research topic is Sound-Image Relations in Audiovisual Art.
deadline this week
http://media.lbg.ac.at/en/content.php?iMenuID=50
more details 
http://www.aec.at/prix_categories_en.php?cat=Media.Art.Research%20Award%202009
marius.

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Re: [PD] wireless contact mics

2009-02-16 Thread Peter Plessas
* Oded Ben-Tal  [2009-02-15 20:19]:
> While not directly pd-question I thought someone might know:
> 
> Does anyone have experience working with wireless contact mics? any 
> recommendations on the not-so-very-expensive end of things?

Hi, you might have a look at the AKG C-411 series, which features a
variant called "L" i guess which allows for wireless transmitters from
AKG (of course) being connected. 
Have been using these microphones/pickups in many occasions now, and
they are my standard repertoire.
Don't forget the DIY-Route as well: Those cheap piezo disks (Radio
Shack, etc.) can outperform the AKGs and many others when properly
mounted (bees wax being the trick here), but you will have to solder the
cable yourself. Connecting this one to a wireless transmitter will as
well require some sort of a preamp (which is where things start to
become more complicated depending on the amount of time you have)

good luck and let me know how you did it.

Peter

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