Re: [PD] [OT] RjDj recording - acoustic environment

2009-05-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Thomas Grill hat gesagt: // Thomas Grill wrote:

 i'm preparing a lecture about artistic strategies of recontextualizing  
 the acoustic environment. Therein, i would like to include one or more  
 recordings of RjDj scenes that use predominantly online sounds from the 
 actual environment and next to no preset sounds (like drums etc.).  
 Recordings from real world (non-studio) situations would be preferred.
 I'm not a RjDj user and i'm having trouble finding proper scenes and  
 recording on the RjDj site.

Well, I should know the scenes being one of the devs. :)

Scenes which almost exclusively use processed environment sounds include:

Eargasm: http://rjdj.me/music/Damian%20Stewart/Eargasm/
Diving: http://rjdj.me/music/Frank%20Barknecht/Diving/
Weizen: http://rjdj.me/music/Frank%20Barknecht/Weizen/
Echo Chamber: http://rjdj.me/music/Georg%20Bosch/EchoChamber/
Echolon: http://rjdj.me/music/Gunter%20Geiger/Echolon/
Ringmod: http://rjdj.me/music/Gunter%20Geiger/RingMod/
World Quantizer: http://rjdj.me/music/Roman%20Haefeli/WorldQuantizer/

I hope I didn't forget some. Most other scenes also include some kind of
prerecorded music, drum loops etc.

Some of the scenes above have been pretty popular and already include thousands
of recordings made by various users, linked to from above pages. Which ones are
good? Even I totally lost track of that. Thousands of people all over the world
are listening to and recording Pd patches, it's hard to follow them. :)

If you would like to upload your own scene (which is just a zipped Pd patch)
to RjDj.me and let the social web loose so people record *your* patch instead
of the official ones - the scene upload feature of rjdj.me now is ready and
you can find all your need to know on our composer's page:
http://more.rjdj.me/composer/

If you don't have an iPod Touch to test stuff, just contact me offlist - I can
probably test your scene on my device. 

Ciao
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Re: [PD] looking for a circular buffer for dsp blocks or similar.

2009-05-21 Thread Georg Bosch


Am 19.05.2009 um 15:22 schrieb Martin Schied:
My idea was, to use a kind of delayline which is big enough to  
contain the whole signal and then copy the entire content of this  
delayline in one moment, so in effect no time has been wasted for  
delaying the signal. It could save 11ms in this example.


Hi,

Eric Lyon has a delay line with copy-to-buffer feature called el.vdp~,  
el.vdb~ is also worth a look. i never used them in Pd though and I  
don't know how instantaneous it copies.


cheers,

g.

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Re: [PD] who wants to port [wacom] for windows?

2009-05-21 Thread patrick


[hid] works with wacoms in Linux, it is just that Debian and Ubuntu 
have been working on tightening up the security with each new release, 
so you have to go thru extra tricks to get data via HID for something 
other than the X server.  I don't know the latest tricks, anyone?
exactly! i have a Wacom Graphire 2 (USB) and everything is working with 
Ubuntu Jaunty (HAL, .fdi) for example in Gimp pressure is working. BUT 
[hid] doesn't output. i can see the device (/dev/input/event6 for 
example) and the features.


i am root so i should be able to poll the tablet, but i guess X11 is 
taking the control... anyone?


pat

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[PD] readanysf~ v0.30 // install problem

2009-05-21 Thread jk

hi august

i'm trying to use readanysf~ but i get the following error in the pd console:

/usr/lib/pd/extra/readanysf~.pd_linux: libgavl.so.1: cannot open  
shared object file: No such file or directory

 readanysf~
... couldn't create

any idea what this could refer to?

thanks.

jason

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Re: [PD] looking for a circular buffer for dsp blocks or similar.

2009-05-21 Thread Thomas Grill

Hi Martin,
although i don't fully understand your intentions, you could use  
xrecord~ and xplay~ (part of xsample) for implementing a circular  
buffer.

gr~~~

Am 19.05.2009 um 15:22 schrieb Martin Schied:


Hi!

is there already something like a 'circular buffer' external or  
abstraction for dsp blocks?


I want to detect onsets / attacks of 512 sample long signals using  
[fiddle~ 1024] and write them in arrays of 1024 samples.


for now my patch looks like this:

the signal is going to [fiddle~ 1024] and to a [delay~] with 576  
samples (512 + 64) which is going to tabwrite~.
after fiddle~ detects an attack it starts a recording of tabwrite.  
(see also attached patch)


Altogether this process needs 33ms (1024 + 512 + 64 samples) after  
an attack has happened to record a signal of 22ms. (1024 samples)


My idea was, to use a kind of delayline which is big enough to  
contain the whole signal and then copy the entire content of this  
delayline in one moment, so in effect no time has been wasted for  
delaying the signal. It could save 11ms in this example.


I'm also open for other suggestions. I already thought of pre- 
recording blocks with multiple delay~ + tabsend~ and copying them  
together after a bang from fiddle~, but felt not well by thinking  
this...

also some concerns for this:
-using big blocks (1024) there's an additional uncertainity to match  
analysis windows of fiddle~ so their offset to fiddle~ must be known.
-using small blocks (64) this becomes unhandy for long delays when  
not using dynamic patching (at least with my knowledge of pd)


btw. can somebody explain where those additional 64 frames (1 Block)  
delay are coming from? Is fiddle's (and also bonk's) output delayed  
by one audio block? attached is an example showing this. (and also  
the above mentioned)


cheers,
Martin



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[PD] call for test: MIDI on Mac OS X

2009-05-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


I basically never use MIDI, but I want to make sure that the MIDI  
stuff is working in Pd-extended 0.41.4.  Could someone with MIDI  
equipment test the latest release candidate to make sure its working?


http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

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Re: [PD] call for test: MIDI on Mac OS X

2009-05-21 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Yes... i use with my synths... or my nano pad kontrol korg, include arduino
as controllorer or translator... midiin... ctlin...note in...
midioutetc.
Check this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDj1HJgTDgY

Cheers from Chile

José Luis

2009/5/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


 I basically never use MIDI, but I want to make sure that the MIDI stuff is
 working in Pd-extended 0.41.4.  Could someone with MIDI equipment test the
 latest release candidate to make sure its working?

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 .hc


 

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Re: [PD] call for test: MIDI on Mac OS X

2009-05-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


So is the MIDI on Mac OS X working with Pd version 0.41.4-extended- 
rc2?  I am guessing this is a yes, but I just want to make sure.


.hc

On May 21, 2009, at 12:20 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote:

Yes... i use with my synths... or my nano pad kontrol korg, include  
arduino as controllorer or translator... midiin... ctlin...note  
in... midioutetc.


Check this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDj1HJgTDgY

Cheers from Chile

José Luis



2009/5/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at

I basically never use MIDI, but I want to make sure that the MIDI  
stuff is working in Pd-extended 0.41.4.  Could someone with MIDI  
equipment test the latest release candidate to make sure its working?


http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

.hc



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Re: [PD] call for test: MIDI on Mac OS X

2009-05-21 Thread Mitchell Turner

Hans,
I was able to do inter-application MIDI communications using Pd-0.41.4- 
extended-rc3 on Mac OS 10.5.7.  I was able to send MIDI from the  
MIDIKeys program into Pd.  I was able to send MIDI data from Pd to the  
SimpleSynth application as well.


I only did a quick test using the Test Audio and MIDI patch from the  
Media menu.


Sorry if this comes in really late.  I get the Digest Pd-list email.
Mitch



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Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 12:11:32 -0400
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Subject: [PD] call for test: MIDI on Mac OS X
To: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at
Message-ID: 240f73a6-6a3c-436f-ab15-eab77ba08...@at.or.at
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes


I basically never use MIDI, but I want to make sure that the MIDI
stuff is working in Pd-extended 0.41.4.  Could someone with MIDI
equipment test the latest release candidate to make sure its working?

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

.hc



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[PD] meta-instrument pure data project

2009-05-21 Thread FernandoG
Hi
Anybody knows about a meta-instrument pure data project like lloop max/msp
collaborative project ? is out there  something like that?

thanks
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Re: [PD] call for test: MIDI on Mac OS X

2009-05-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Excellent, thanks, sounds like it works.

.hc

On May 21, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Mitchell Turner wrote:


Hans,
I was able to do inter-application MIDI communications using  
Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3 on Mac OS 10.5.7.  I was able to send MIDI  
from the MIDIKeys program into Pd.  I was able to send MIDI data  
from Pd to the SimpleSynth application as well.


I only did a quick test using the Test Audio and MIDI patch from  
the Media menu.


Sorry if this comes in really late.  I get the Digest Pd-list email.
Mitch



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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 12:11:32 -0400
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Subject: [PD] call for test: MIDI on Mac OS X
To: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at
Message-ID: 240f73a6-6a3c-436f-ab15-eab77ba08...@at.or.at
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes


I basically never use MIDI, but I want to make sure that the MIDI
stuff is working in Pd-extended 0.41.4.  Could someone with MIDI
equipment test the latest release candidate to make sure its working?

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

.hc



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Re: [PD] gcanvas?

2009-05-21 Thread glerm soares
[gcanvas] message color _name_ object seems that just work with color
names oe webcolors like #ff ?

I could not find a decimal to hexadecial object already...

 Does anyone know some or something like [colorgrid] to build webcolors?


abraço

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Re: [PD] gcanvas?

2009-05-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Try [colorpanel] or I think pdmtl has some convertors.

.hc

On May 21, 2009, at 3:46 PM, glerm soares wrote:

[gcanvas] message color _name_ object seems that just work with  
color names oe webcolors like #ff ?


I could not find a decimal to hexadecial object already...

 Does anyone know some or something like [colorgrid] to build  
webcolors?



abraço

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Re: [PD] MinGW/Windows work session - tomorrow, Tuesday 5/18

2009-05-21 Thread Bryan Jurish
moin all,

On 2009-05-21 18:10:35, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at appears
to have written:
 
 On May 21, 2009, at 11:53 AM, august wrote:
 

 So of your list there, we still have to handle glib and pkg-config.  As
 for binaries, there currently isn't really a way to manage them.  Right
 now, the setup uses binaries from the MinGW and MSYS installers, then
 everything else is checked into SVN 'sources' and built from source.  In
 order to make this setup reproduceable, it needs to be simple.

 I think August got pkg-config going, was that a binary?


 yeah, the only way to go is with binaries due to a circular dependency
 with glib and pkg-config.

after a brief look at glib's configure.ac, it looks to me like the glib
- pkg-config dependency isn't really one, and could be fixed by some
judicious use of 'dnl' (m4 comment-ization) in glib/configure.ac.

 Which binary did you use?  Is there an 'official' MinGW one?

I second the question: august?

for my own part, I didn't find a pkg-config binary from either mingw or
gnuwin, so i used the binaries referenced on gtk.org:

http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/dependencies/pkg-config-0.23-2.zip

which worked to build glib, but after 'svn up'-ing pure-data/sources, a
whole bunch of libs have been complaining, and I'm getting pkg-config
crashes during build-libs-on-mingw.sh (i can attach a log, but it's huge
and i haven't really identified the problem yet).  so i think a better
way to go would be:

 + comment out the AC_PROG(pkg-config) in glib/configure.ac (or
configure.in, I forget which convention glib uses)

 + tweak the libpcre clauses so that they don't call pkg-config (afaict,
the GRegex/PCRE stuff is the only place glib actually calls pkg-config),

 + re-generate the glib autotools stuff (e.g. autoreconf)

 + use the --with-local-pcre or whatever option to glib ./configure and
it ought to build

... no time for this atm, especially since these other libs are giving
me grief and annoying segfault popups ... grr

Strangely, http://pkgconfig.freedesktop.org/wiki/ (the official
pkg-config home) reports:

  A copy of glib 1.2.8 is shipped together with pkg-config and this is
sufficient for pkg-config to compile and work properly

huh...

marmosets,
Bryan

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Re: [PD] getting wacom data on Ubuntu WAS: who wants to port [wacom] for windows?

2009-05-21 Thread Rich E
In Ubuntu 7.04, I added the following line to
/etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules:

KERNEL==event[0-9]*,  MODE=0666

I think things may have changed though.. might belong in a different file
now.  Look for whevever similar lines are for things like raw1394, usb, etc,
and thats where this should go.

Anyone just know where this line should go?  It lets all users use the
/dev/input/event*'s.

- rich


On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Olm-e o...@ogeem.be wrote:


  Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:10:44 -0400
  From: patrick pured...@11h11.com
  Subject: Re: [PD] getting wacom data on Ubuntu WAS: who wants to port
[wacom] for windows?
  To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
  Cc: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at
  Message-ID: 4a143994.2070...@11h11.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
  Yes, [hid] use /dev/input/eventX, but really /dev/input/wacom is simply
  a link to /dev/input/eventX.
  i have also tried to cat /dev/input/eventX, same problem, no output.
 
  if anyone have a tablet and using HAL, let me know if it's working for
 you.
  pat
 
 
 
 just to let you know, I got my little wacom volito to work with [hid]
 with /dev/inputX on ubuntu 8.04, as long as I change the owner of that
 to current user... ( sudo chown user /dev/inputX ) - I get XY and
 pressure info ...
 same as with all hid input actualy since ubuntu 7.10 (had a hard time
 before figuring that permission thing)
 but don't know how to change that on the fly ... could be cool to find
 as that /input/eventX change each time (reboot/change in usb/...)

 Ol.

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Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30

2009-05-21 Thread joel silvestre
  When openning a new soundfile, the previous if any, is not closed
  properly. The memory is not freed and the whole thing crash.
 
 hmm.  I think this was a bug I fixed from an older version.  Can you try
 the latest version now and let me know if you still experience this
 problem?
 
 -august.

Still the same with the latest version. Each time a sound file is opened
the memory use by Pd increase. 

for the record previous and now fixed reported bugs were against version
0.33 and not 0.30 as indicated by mistake in the subject.

Thanks for readanysf~ !



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Re: [PD] getting wacom data on Ubuntu WAS: who wants to port [wacom] for windows?

2009-05-21 Thread patrick

new information:

Jaunty configures your tablet as full-featured wacom device 
automatically using the HALfdi combo. It should Just work (TM). If 
you do not wish to have it configured as a wacom device then just remove 
the fdi file and it will fall back to evdev.


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Re: [PD] getting wacom data on Ubuntu WAS: who wants to port [wacom] for windows?

2009-05-21 Thread patrick

hi,

since i am root, i don't it's a permission thing. here's the answer from 
ping (from wacom-tools):


Once wacom_drv.so grabs the tablet, nothing else can access it.  You can 
run wacdump before X starts.  Or run xidump before wacomcpl starts.


what i did to have pressure, x, y in pure data and gimp at the same time:

|in gimp (gimpdisplayshell-coords.c)
printf(%f %f %f;\n, coords-x, ||coords-y|, |coords-pressure||);
fflush(stdout); //important!|

at console:
gimp-2.6 | pdsend 3001 127.0.0.1 udp


pat

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Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30

2009-05-21 Thread august
   When openning a new soundfile, the previous if any, is not closed
   properly. The memory is not freed and the whole thing crash.
  
  hmm.  I think this was a bug I fixed from an older version.  Can you try
  the latest version now and let me know if you still experience this
  problem?
  
  -august.
 
 Still the same with the latest version. Each time a sound file is opened
 the memory use by Pd increase. 
 
 for the record previous and now fixed reported bugs were against version
 0.33 and not 0.30 as indicated by mistake in the subject.
 
 Thanks for readanysf~ !


my pleasurehope it is useful.


please see here for the memory leak fix:

http://aug.ment.org/readanysf/download.php


it's still leaking a little bit, but I don't think it is due to my code.
It should be much better now.  Please let me know how it seems.

-august.

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[PD] pdPod lives!

2009-05-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


We've been hacking on pdPod+iPodLinux and improving it to make it  
easier to use and install.  Last night, we stayed up til 2am hacking  
up some iPod sequencers at NYC Resistor. We are using pdPod on  
iPodLinux. You can hack your own iPods too, as part of the re-ware  
project, we are trying to make it easy: http://re-ware.org


Thanks to Bre Pettis for his camera work!

http://dev.eyebeam.org/projects/reware/blog/57

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Re: [PD] call for test: MIDI on Mac OS X

2009-05-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On May 21, 2009, at 6:12 PM, chris clepper wrote:

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
h...@at.or.at wrote:


So is the MIDI on Mac OS X working with Pd version 0.41.4-extended- 
rc2?  I am guessing this is a yes, but I just want to make sure.


It 'works' but the timing is not up to use in professional  
situations.  The Beat Clock timing via IAC bus has a minimum +/-5  
bpm margin of error.


Does MIDI with Pd-vanilla work better on Mac OS X?

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Re: [PD] getting wacom data on Ubuntu WAS: who wants to port [wacom] for windows?

2009-05-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Did it work?  Also, there are somethings where root doesn't have  
permission, its very specific, but its a possibility.


.hc

On May 21, 2009, at 11:36 AM, patrick wrote:


new information:

Jaunty configures your tablet as full-featured wacom device  
automatically using the HALfdi combo. It should Just work (TM).  
If you do not wish to have it configured as a wacom device then just  
remove the fdi file and it will fall back to evdev.


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Re: [PD] call for vbap testing in Pd-extended or SVN

2009-05-21 Thread Hector Centeno
Hello,

I just built pd-extended from SVN and vbap fails to work since it's
looking for a file named ls_setup which is not installed. Do I have to
create such file? I used vbap before and I don't remember having to
deal with this so I guess is part of the new changes.

Cheers,

Hector


On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I finally updated vbap to Villa Pulkki's most recent version.  It was 0.99
 now its 1.0.3.  The Pd code ended up being too different and I didn't have
 the original Max version that was ported to Pd to compare, so I tried to
 track all the changes in the Pd version, and incorporate them where they
 made sense.  But basically, I ended up porting the Max/MSP 1.0.3 sources
 from scratch.

 There are some minor differences between the Max/MSP version and this Pd
 port:

 - a fifth inlet/outlet was added for 'gain' but since this provided no
 functionality that could not be handled in Pd using a [*~], I did not
 include that in the Pd port.

 - the Max/MSP version only has arguments for the 2nd and 3rd inlets (azimuth
 and elevation), I added an argument for the fourth inlet (spread).

 Its in the nightly Pd-extended builds, or in SVN:

 http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/vbap/

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Re: [PD] call for vbap testing in Pd-extended or SVN

2009-05-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


You probably have to load the [vbap] object before the  
[define_loudspeakers] object.


.hc

On May 21, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:


Hello,

I just built pd-extended from SVN and vbap fails to work since it's
looking for a file named ls_setup which is not installed. Do I have to
create such file? I used vbap before and I don't remember having to
deal with this so I guess is part of the new changes.

Cheers,

Hector


On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


I finally updated vbap to Villa Pulkki's most recent version.  It  
was 0.99
now its 1.0.3.  The Pd code ended up being too different and I  
didn't have
the original Max version that was ported to Pd to compare, so I  
tried to
track all the changes in the Pd version, and incorporate them where  
they
made sense.  But basically, I ended up porting the Max/MSP 1.0.3  
sources

from scratch.

There are some minor differences between the Max/MSP version and  
this Pd

port:

- a fifth inlet/outlet was added for 'gain' but since this provided  
no

functionality that could not be handled in Pd using a [*~], I did not
include that in the Pd port.

- the Max/MSP version only has arguments for the 2nd and 3rd inlets  
(azimuth

and elevation), I added an argument for the fourth inlet (spread).

Its in the nightly Pd-extended builds, or in SVN:

http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/vbap/

.hc




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Re: [PD] call for test: MIDI on Mac OS X

2009-05-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On May 21, 2009, at 11:58 PM, chris clepper wrote:




On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:

Does MIDI with Pd-vanilla work better on Mac OS X?

I don't think there is any difference in the MIDI code between the  
two is there?


I don't think so, but there are differences in how they are built.

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