[PD] oggread questions

2009-09-28 Thread Amir Taaki

Hi,

currently i read in wav samples and then i can vary the play speed by using a 
sloping phasor signal as an index for reading the sound array by adjusting the 
phasor signal frequency.

im looking at using oggread instead cos it looks more convenient. does it have 
a way to see the length of a loaded sound file and is there a way to adjust 
playback speed?

thanks
  
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Re: [PD] Percolate

2009-09-28 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, dmotd wrote:

i'm just looking at the license now and i'm not sure that this is 
acutally a problem.. looks like an open style license.. not for resale, 
non-commerical educaton use only, must credit authors and distribute 
license.


GPL forbids any clauses about non-commercial, non-military, 
education-only, and any other clauses restricting the freedom to use.

(section 7 out of 17)

  http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html

But some other documents may be easier to interpret (but the following are 
about what is a free license, they aren't about GPL-compatibility per se).


FSF's Free Software Definition lists four essential freedoms, the first 
one being: «The freedom to run the program, for any purpose».


  http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

OSI's Open Source Definition's sixth item (out of ten) states: «the 
license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a 
specific field of endeavor.»


  http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php

I think that it's clear enough.

What's more difficult to grasp is how all the different licenses interact 
with each other when you use or don't use plugins together...


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Re: [PD] GIT and pd

2009-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


+1 here, it would be great to be able to see your up-to-date git.

.hc

On Sep 28, 2009, at 9:37 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:

Yep -- I only update the git repository when I make a compiled  
"release" --
and the code in SVN isn't yet up to "release" (even "test release")  
standards.


The git repository has much more information than the svn -- perhaps  
I should

start uploading it too?

cheers
Miller

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 02:54:07PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
wrote:


It would be nice if that was the most up-to-date place for Miller's
git code, but it hasn't been updated.  There is newer code in the  
pure-

data SVN trunk/pd section.

.hc

On Sep 25, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Anderson Goulart wrote:


As I read in earlier messages, pd-extended has some patches
different from miller's pd git source code. I am reading and
studying this git code since last week and the last commit was in
May, 7 with the release of 0.42-5 version.

I don't know if Miller is maintaining this code or contributing in
any other place.

ps: the git source code
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Software/pd-git/


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On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Damien Henry  wrote:
Hi Miller, and all.

I saw a Git repository on Miller's Page.
Is it alive ?
Is there a special policy about using it ?

Are some of you on the list using it ?

Cheers,
Damien.


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Re: [PD] GIT and pd

2009-09-28 Thread Miller Puckette
Yep -- I only update the git repository when I make a compiled "release" --
and the code in SVN isn't yet up to "release" (even "test release") standards.

The git repository has much more information than the svn -- perhaps I should
start uploading it too?

cheers
Miller

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 02:54:07PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
> It would be nice if that was the most up-to-date place for Miller's  
> git code, but it hasn't been updated.  There is newer code in the pure- 
> data SVN trunk/pd section.
> 
> .hc
> 
> On Sep 25, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Anderson Goulart wrote:
> 
> >As I read in earlier messages, pd-extended has some patches  
> >different from miller's pd git source code. I am reading and  
> >studying this git code since last week and the last commit was in  
> >May, 7 with the release of 0.42-5 version.
> >
> >I don't know if Miller is maintaining this code or contributing in  
> >any other place.
> >
> >ps: the git source code
> >http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Software/pd-git/
> >
> >
> >-- global
> >
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Damien Henry  wrote:
> >Hi Miller, and all.
> >
> >I saw a Git repository on Miller's Page.
> >Is it alive ?
> >Is there a special policy about using it ?
> >
> >Are some of you on the list using it ?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Damien.
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[PD] Arduino Bluethooth

2009-09-28 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Dear friends, its me again, well i bought a new arduino bt, and i stay
using a osx leopard and tiger, the computer find the board and
configure it  fine, but when i need connect to arduino ide and send
the sketch the arduino ide says: program is not responding...the
serial port can available, but i cant... please...a hand.


Thanks a lot

Best Regard frmo Chile

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Re: [PD] how to cite the Pure Data in a research paper

2009-09-28 Thread Ed Kelly
To continue arguing the toss of a coin (sorry Frank, that wasn't just for 
you)...

Perhaps if you are going to "cite" Pure Data (proper nouns, capital letters, a 
name of something) then you should cite one of the following papers from 
Miller's website:

34. Puckette, M. 1996. "Pure Data: another integrated computer music 
environment." Proceedings, Second Intercollege Computer Music Concerts, 
Tachikawa, Japan, pp. 37-41.

36. Puckette, M. 1996. "Pure Data." Proceedings, International Computer Music 
Conference.. San Francisco: International Computer Music Association, pp. 
269-272.

38. Puckette, M. 1997. "Pure Data: recent progress." Proceedings, Third 
Intercollege Computer Music Festival, Tokyo, Japan, pp. 1-4.

40. Puckette, M. and Apel, T. 1998. "Real-time audio analysis tools for Pd and 
MSP". Proceedings, International Computer Music Conference. San Francisco: 
International Computer Music Association, pp. 109-112.

43. Puckette, M. 2002. "Max at seventeen." Computer Music Journal 26(4): pp. 
31-43. HTML... PDF

44. Puckette, M. 2002. "Using Pd as a score language." Proceedings, ICMC, pp. 
184-187. HTML... PDF... Tex source

etc etc. Spot the deliberate mistake!

As an academic I'd say a citation refers to another publication, a reference in 
the bibliography to a related discussion.

Meanwhile, the name "Pure Data" should be enough to identify the software, or 
if you prefer "The Pure Data Computer Music System invented by Miller Puckette, 
UCSD"

That is enough academic pedantry for now I think!

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--- On Mon, 28/9/09, Frank Barknecht  wrote:

> From: Frank Barknecht 
> Subject: Re: [PD] how to cite the Pure Data in a research paper
> To: pd-list@iem.at
> Date: Monday, 28 September, 2009, 6:17 PM
> Hallo,
> Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
>
> >
> > On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
> >
> >> You can have a look at this thread for example:
> >> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-01/059095.html
> >
> > Ah, so is this about which spellings of Pd are the
> most orthodox?
> >
> > There's a reason why I spread the spelling "PureData"
> all over the place.
> > The double uppercase makes it readable as two words,
> but the lack of
> > space makes it look like one distinctive word and not
> like a common
> > adjective followed by a very common name.
>
> Names are not something you can argue about or that you can
> "improve". Pd's
> author called it "Pure Data" and "Pd", so in a scientific
> paper I would always
> use these two names/spellings and I'd consider everything
> else a research
> negligence by the paper's author. In casual communication
> like here of course
> there is more freedom possible.
>
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--- On Mon, 28/9/09, Jonathan Wilkes  wrote:

> From: Jonathan Wilkes 
> Subject: Re: [PD] how to cite the Pure Data in a research paper
> To: "Mathieu Bouchard" 
> Cc: pd-list@iem.at
> Date: Monday, 28 September, 2009, 10:35 PM
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 9/28/09, Mathieu Bouchard 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Mathieu Bouchard 
> > Subject: Re: [PD] how to cite the Pure Data in a
> research paper
> > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" 
> > Cc: 

Re: [PD] pd_opencv 0.2-rc4

2009-09-28 Thread András Murányi
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>  after a week of intensive workshop in baltan laboratories
>> ( http://www.baltanlaboratories.org/ ),
>>
>
> No idea what's the cause of this, but if you have only 256 megs of RAM and
> FireFox 3, just don't go on that website. I thought that just being patient
> would be enough, but no.
>
> (FireFox may still not be nearly as frugal as it could, it's still a very
> common browser)
>
>
It looks like they have giant images inline. Try Edit - Preferences -
Content - Don't load images

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Re: [PD] how to cite the Pure Data in a research paper

2009-09-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes


--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Mathieu Bouchard  wrote:

> From: Mathieu Bouchard 
> Subject: Re: [PD] how to cite the Pure Data in a research paper
> To: "Jonathan Wilkes" 
> Cc: pd-list@iem.at, "Frank Barknecht" 
> Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 8:32 PM
> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, Jonathan Wilkes
> wrote:
> 
> > That's true, especially for a name like "ChucK", which
> as far as I've seen, has been consistently spelled with that
> capital "K" in research papers where it's turned up.
> 
> OTOH, the name ChucK is more distinctive *because* of the
> extra uppercase.
> 
> > On another note, I think Desire Data should be renamed
> :) Data just for the fun that would happen when someone
> tries to type that name into ms word.
> 
> Sorry, could you please explain the joke. I don't know
> anything MS Word does.
> 
> If I cared about that kind of pranks, I'd be more inclined
> to call a piece of software «that software» (all
> lowercase, without the doublequotes, no trademark symbol)
> and watch the trouble that ensues. But that's quite
> hypothetical. In reality, there is already enough trouble
> arising from uncovering ordinary everyday confusion, that
> there's nothing that I'd want to actually add to the mess.

Well, it's probably good that you're not inclined to that kind of 
prank because the example you give has no 
specific association with pd, dsp, or anything else that would be 
meaningful to anyone using the software.

If the only think about the name ChucK was the fact that it  
looks distinctive, I think that would be just as lame as your example 
above.  If you look at the ChucK faq, you'll see a nice joke as to the 
origin of the name.  Once you get the joke, you also get some 
information about a detail of the ChucK language.

I was going for :) associating with the word "desire" from dd, but I 
guess that's streching the meaning of the smiley a little bit.  Oh, and it 
turns into an actual smily icon in MS word.

-Jonathan

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Re: [PD] how to cite the Pure Data in a research paper

2009-09-28 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

That's true, especially for a name like "ChucK", which as far as I've 
seen, has been consistently spelled with that capital "K" in research 
papers where it's turned up.


OTOH, the name ChucK is more distinctive *because* of the extra uppercase.

On another note, I think Desire Data should be renamed :) Data just for 
the fun that would happen when someone tries to type that name into ms 
word.


Sorry, could you please explain the joke. I don't know anything MS Word 
does.


If I cared about that kind of pranks, I'd be more inclined to call a piece 
of software «that software» (all lowercase, without the doublequotes, no 
trademark symbol) and watch the trouble that ensues. But that's quite 
hypothetical. In reality, there is already enough trouble arising from 
uncovering ordinary everyday confusion, that there's nothing that I'd want 
to actually add to the mess.


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Re: [PD] how to cite the Pure Data in a research paper

2009-09-28 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote:

Names are not something you can argue about or that you can "improve". 
Pd's author called it "Pure Data" and "Pd", so in a scientific paper I 
would always use these two names/spellings and I'd consider everything 
else a research negligence by the paper's author. In casual 
communication like here of course there is more freedom possible.


By a strange coïncidence, yesterday night, Carmen brought to my attention 
the existence of this scientific article about the epidemiology of 
zombies... The author claims to be named «Robert Smith?», question-mark 
included. For something that people can't argue about or «improve», this 
guy's name used up considerable amounts of ink and serious braintime... in 
*several* newspapers' style-guide committees. And in the end, there was no 
consensus.


  http://www.mathstat.uottawa.ca/~rsmith/cover.jpg
  http://www.thestar.com/comment/columnists/article/684873
  http://www.mathstat.uottawa.ca/~rsmith/

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Re: [PD] how to cite the Pure Data in a research paper

2009-09-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes


--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Frank Barknecht  wrote:

> Names are not something you can argue about or that you can
> "improve".

That's true, especially for a name like "ChucK", which as far as I've 
seen, has been consistently spelled with that capital "K" in 
research papers where it's turned up.

On another note, I think Desire Data should be renamed :) Data 
just for the fun that would happen when someone tries to type that name 
into ms word.

-Jonathan


  

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Re: [PD] [PD-ot] RSS feeds from puredata.info

2009-09-28 Thread Jack
Hello,

I have always a little problem about the dates.
The latest new seems to be 'Gem 0.92.1 released!' but i haven't this
line in my feeds.
Why, on the puredata.info, this line is on the second page of news :
http://puredata.info/news/folder_summary_view?b_start:int=20
and not here :
http://puredata.info/news
I think the problem come from this dates classification.
If you go on :
http://puredata.info/news/RSS
you can see there is no trace of 'Gem 0.92.1 released!'.
Thanx !
++

Jack


Le lundi 14 septembre 2009 à 18:56 +0200, Jack a écrit :
> Ok, excellent now ! no more problem with the date order.
> ++
> 
> Jack
> 
> 
> Le jeudi 10 septembre 2009 à 13:56 +0200, Jack a écrit :
> > Yep ! it works now.
> > Very nice job Iohannes and thanx again for your effort and for the last
> > release of GEM.
> > Just a last remark : i get the news in wrong order in Drupal because, i
> > think,  you "touched" the old feeds :) So Gem 0.92.0 released! is the
> > last news (you can see the last update of the news with something like
> > '3 hours 40 min ago'). Here is what i get :
> > 
> > pdcon09 papers 
> > 3 hours 26 min ago 
> > papers presented at the pdcon09 available for download! 
> > Categories: PureData/GEM 
> > Pd-extended 0.41.4 released! 
> > 3 hours 26 min ago 
> > Categories: PureData/GEM 
> > new Pd book:loadbang - Programming Electronic Music in Pd 
> > 3 hours 26 min ago 
> > Johannes Kreidler released his Pd-tutorial. He wrote the tutorial in the
> > last years with the help of a grant by the Music University of
> > Freiburg / Germany, is now online, in english and in german. It is also
> > available as a book (paperback) at Wolke Publishing House. 
> > Categories: PureData/GEM 
> > Pd 0.42-5 released 
> > 3 hours 27 min ago 
> > Pd version 0.42-5 is ready 
> > Categories: PureData/GEM 
> > Gem 0.92.0 released! 
> > 3 hours 40 min ago 
> > Gem 0.92.0 has been released 
> > Categories: PureData/GEM 
> > 
> > ++
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > 
> > Le jeudi 10 septembre 2009 à 10:35 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
> > > IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > my guess is, that feeds works correctly, but drupal uses some timeout 
> > > > mechanism in order to discard old items.
> > > > since the news feed on puredata is not very heavily used, most items 
> > > > are 
> > > > already too old to be included in the drupal aggregator.
> > > 
> > > and with this in mind i checked the "settings" of the drupal feed 
> > > aggregator and indeed it does say "discard items older than: '16 weeks'"
> > > 
> > > seems to be a debatable feature of drupal; see 
> > > http://drupal.org/node/60468
> > > 
> > > 
> > > fgadmr
> > > IOhannes
> > 
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Re: [PD] pd_opencv 0.2-rc4

2009-09-28 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:


after a week of intensive workshop in baltan laboratories
( http://www.baltanlaboratories.org/ ),


No idea what's the cause of this, but if you have only 256 megs of RAM and 
FireFox 3, just don't go on that website. I thought that just being 
patient would be enough, but no.


(FireFox may still not be nearly as frugal as it could, it's still a very 
common browser)


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Re: [PD] Stochastic rhythms in pd

2009-09-28 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Jerome Covington hat gesagt: // Jerome Covington wrote:

> Has anyone done any work with percussive elements in pd, other than
> more traditional drum machine, looping applications?
> 
> Something that generates seemingly random, preferably sparse rhythmic
> elements based, or not, on some minimal user input?
> 
> Are there any patches that anyone would like to share?

The RTC-lib by Karl-Heinz Essl is full of stuff like this. I ported most
objects to Pd: http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2006/nov/26/rtc-lib-pd/

Should also be part of Pd-extendend.

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Re: [PD] how to cite the Pure Data in a research paper

2009-09-28 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

>
> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
>
>> You can have a look at this thread for example:
>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-01/059095.html
>
> Ah, so is this about which spellings of Pd are the most orthodox?
>
> There's a reason why I spread the spelling "PureData" all over the place. 
> The double uppercase makes it readable as two words, but the lack of 
> space makes it look like one distinctive word and not like a common 
> adjective followed by a very common name.

Names are not something you can argue about or that you can "improve". Pd's
author called it "Pure Data" and "Pd", so in a scientific paper I would always
use these two names/spellings and I'd consider everything else a research
negligence by the paper's author. In casual communication like here of course
there is more freedom possible.

Ciao
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[PD] [writesf~] in -batch and -nogui modes

2009-09-28 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all

i had encountered some issues with the object class [writesf~] in the
modes -batch and -nogui.

i was told by dmotd in #dataflow this might be related to setting the
samplerate for certain samplerate dependent object is not happening at
the correct time in -nogui mode. i found two work workarounds to
overcome this (basically they do the same):
 * sending a message to the patch using the -send flag: -send "pd dsp 1"
 * using [loadbang]-[delay 1]-[dsp 1(-[s pd] instead of using a plain
[loadbang] for turning dsp on.

now it seems, that this doesn't work in -batch mode, since the [delay]
triggers the 'dsp on' only logically delayed, but not effectively (this
is at least my interpretation of what is going on). it also seems, that
[writesf~] wants the 'dsp 1' message to come not only logically later,
but _really_ later. otherwise it creates just an empty file with 0 byte
size (the resulting soundfile doesn't even contain the heaser).
i figured out, that using -send "pd dsp 1" helps, and finally enables
[writesf~] to write correct soundfiles in -batch mode. 

also i noticed, that messages to [writesf~] need to be sent _after_
turning dsp on. which means, that you have to use a [delay 0] when
wanting to start [writesf~] on loadbang. 

Before writing a bug report, i would like to discuss the issue here in
order to not write some bogus bug report:
 * is my interpretation of things correct?
 * what other object classes might be affected as well, if any? 

is there some easier way to make a patch work in -batch mode than having
to edit it and put a [delay 0] after every [loadbang]?

for testing purposes i attached a test patch.

cheerio
roman




#N canvas 0 120 594 377 10;
#X obj 76 33 loadbang;
#X obj 117 307 writesf~ 1;
#X obj 76 85 t b b b b;
#X obj 76 170 delay 5000;
#X obj 76 195 t b b;
#X msg 170 229 stop;
#X obj 76 255 s pd;
#X msg 76 233 quit;
#X obj 170 268 t a a;
#N canvas 523 78 162 273 make 0;
#X obj 27 174 osc~;
#X obj 27 54 metro 300;
#X obj 27 83 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1
;
#X obj 27 109 sel 0 1;
#X msg 27 143 300;
#X msg 61 143 500;
#X obj 27 25 inlet;
#X obj 28 212 outlet~;
#X connect 0 0 7 0;
#X connect 1 0 2 0;
#X connect 2 0 3 0;
#X connect 3 0 4 0;
#X connect 3 1 5 0;
#X connect 4 0 0 0;
#X connect 5 0 0 0;
#X connect 6 0 1 0;
#X restore 116 140 pd make some sound;
#X msg 221 230 open -bytes 2 -wave sound.wav \, start;
#X text 219 294 print what is being done;
#X text 182 71 Use -noloadbang in order to edit it.;
#X text 181 26 This patch writes a 5s sounfile and then automatically
quits pd.;
#X obj 228 314 print [writesf~];
#X obj 76 59 delay 0;
#X connect 0 0 15 0;
#X connect 2 0 3 0;
#X connect 2 2 9 0;
#X connect 2 3 10 0;
#X connect 3 0 4 0;
#X connect 4 0 7 0;
#X connect 4 1 5 0;
#X connect 5 0 8 0;
#X connect 7 0 6 0;
#X connect 8 0 1 0;
#X connect 8 1 14 0;
#X connect 9 0 1 0;
#X connect 10 0 8 0;
#X connect 15 0 2 0;
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Re: [PD] pd.lib

2009-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Sep 27, 2009, at 3:58 PM, Martin Peach wrote:


Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

On Sep 24, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Martin Peach wrote:

bra...@subnet.at wrote:

Hi
can anybody help me to find pd.lib?


It's in the pd/bin folder of Miller's Windows versions.

It would be nice if it (or at least a list of exported symbols)  
was included in the autobuilds for Windows but it isn't, I guess  
because MinGW and Cygwin don't require it for linking.
Feel free to make this change directly in the Pd-extended branch.   
I think it would just be a matter of editing makefile.mingw to make  
it generate the files you want, then adding those files to the  
packages/win32_inno/pd-inno.iss.in so that they are included in the  
installer.


OK I just added code to create a pddll.def file. This can then be  
used to make a pd.lib in MSVC, so externals for pd-extended may be  
built using MSVC. (as long as they don't pass file handles across  
the dll boundary -- an issue involving different c runtimes having  
different FILE structs)
(Other possibilities: Perhaps libpd.a can be used directly just by  
renaming it pd.lib (but it is currently not installed into pd/bin),  
or nm can be used to extract the symbols from pd.dll (but this must  
be done before it is stripped.))


packages/win32_inno/pd-inno.iss.in already copies everything in pd/ 
bin to pd/bin so no change seems needed there.


I notice there is already a pdtcl.def file being created using  
pdtcl.dll, but it doesn't seem to be used or installed.


I'll check tomorrow's build to see if it worked.

Martin



Looks like you are missing a "-Wl," in your change, before -outimplib  
had one.


 -Wl,--export-all-symbols -Wl,--output-def pddll.def  
--out-implib=pd.a;


http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.42/pd/src/makefile.mingw?r1=12474&r2=12473&pathrev=12474

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Re: [PD] Percolate

2009-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Must be compatible with GPLv3 to be included in Pd-extended. non- 
commerical is not GPL compatible.


.hc

On Sep 28, 2009, at 1:02 AM, dmotd wrote:


i'm just looking at the license now and i'm not sure
that this is acutally a problem.. looks like an open
style license.. not for resale, non-commerical
educaton use only, must credit authors and distribute
license.

see attached.

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Can't because of the license, check the archives for details.   
Someone could
just put out binaries on puredata.info, IIRC.  Then they can easily  
be

installed like this:

http://puredata.info/docs/faq/
how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files-with-pd-extended

.hc

On Sep 26, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:


   Or including it in Pd-extended!?!

   ~Kyle

   On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:08 AM, rene beekman   
wrote:


   I stand corrected :)
   Mark, thanks! This is great!

   Now, if someone could also point me to a Windoze version of  
Percolate

   for Pd, I'd be totally happy :)

   Rene

   BTW Mark, have you thought about dropping the Percolate  
developers a

   note to ask them to update their links?




   On Sep 26, 2009, at 18:12, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:


   Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:29:53 -0700 (PDT)
   From: mark edward grimm 

   Subject: Re: [PD] Percolate
   To: pd-list@iem.at
   Message-ID: <358216.94182...@web32407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1


   So it seems that right now you have two options;  
find a way
   to do your project without the Percolate objects, or  
move to

   Max/MSP ...


   um... thats not true. i compiled the source a while ago.  
heres a

   binary. works on 10.5 and 10.6 if on osx:

   http://megrimm.net/software/PeRColate-OSX-Intel-10.5/
   PeRColate-OSX-Intel-10.5.zip

   i have the sources + xcode project somewhere I think...  
i would

   have to look around...

   mark



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Re: [PD] Percolate

2009-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Sep 28, 2009, at 4:00 AM, dmotd wrote:


IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

dmotd wrote:

i'm just looking at the license now and i'm not sure that this is
acutally a problem.. looks like an open style license.. not for  
resale,

non-commerical educaton use only, must credit authors and distribute
license.


which sounds incompatible with GPL (which is what PdX is  
distributed under).


ahh, right, i'd overlooked that it might be too
restrictive.. thats too bad. could it still be added
to the svn repository?



You'll have to check with Sourceforge. I think they require OSI- 
certified licenses.


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Re: [PD] An infinite number of acid + breakbeat loops + wii

2009-09-28 Thread hard off
yeah, that's fun.

the logic behind the randomness is very good.
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Re: [PD] Percolate

2009-09-28 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Hi Folk, is an excellent new, well this afternoon i will  try to compile in
my barbie netbook... ubuntu... i post the mission.

Thanks for each one reply this post

Best regards from Chile

José

2009/9/28 dmotd 

>  IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> > dmotd wrote:
> >> i'm just looking at the license now and i'm not sure that this is
> >> acutally a problem.. looks like an open style license.. not for resale,
> >> non-commerical educaton use only, must credit authors and distribute
> >> license.
> >
> > which sounds incompatible with GPL (which is what PdX is distributed
> under).
>
> ahh, right, i'd overlooked that it might be too
> restrictive.. thats too bad. could it still be added
> to the svn repository?
>
> dmotd
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Re: [PD] pd_opencv 0.2-rc4

2009-09-28 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Excellent work. These look really fun!

~Kyle

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:22 AM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

> ola,
>
> after a week of intensive workshop in baltan laboratories
> ( http://www.baltanlaboratories.org/ ),
> we released a new version of OpenCV for PD,
> version 0.2-rc4 that fixes the following issues :
>
> ##
> version 0.2-rc4 ( codename BALTANIK )
>
> * fixed colorspace problems for mac ppc
> * contours detection objects ( hu_compare and pgh_compare )
> now give the posititon of matching contours.
> * a folder of examples have been added,
> they should work with pd-extended.
>
> ##
>
> you can find binaries for mac osx and linux packages on the wiki
> as well as the source code ( for those who want to compile it ) here :
> http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv
>
> some videos of the workshop have been published here :
> http://giss.tv/dmmdb/index.php?channel=pdopencv
>
> well, lluis mainly fixed the problems
> while i was at the coffee shop,
> but it's time to go back there 
>
> ciao,
> sevy
>
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Re: [PD] pd_opencv 0.2-rc4

2009-09-28 Thread dmotd
awesome work lluis and yves, i look forward to 
catching up with this stuff soon.

ciao
dmotd

ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
> ola,
>
> after a week of intensive workshop in baltan laboratories
> ( http://www.baltanlaboratories.org/ ),
> we released a new version of OpenCV for PD,
> version 0.2-rc4 that fixes the following issues :
>
> ##
> version 0.2-rc4 ( codename BALTANIK )
>
> * fixed colorspace problems for mac ppc
> * contours detection objects ( hu_compare and pgh_compare )
> now give the posititon of matching contours.
> * a folder of examples have been added,
> they should work with pd-extended.
>
> ##
>
> you can find binaries for mac osx and linux packages on the wiki
> as well as the source code ( for those who want to compile it ) here :
> http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv
>
> some videos of the workshop have been published here :
> http://giss.tv/dmmdb/index.php?channel=pdopencv
>
> well, lluis mainly fixed the problems
> while i was at the coffee shop,
> but it's time to go back there 
>
> ciao,
> sevy
>
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[PD] pd_opencv 0.2-rc4

2009-09-28 Thread ydego...@gmail.com

ola,

after a week of intensive workshop in baltan laboratories
( http://www.baltanlaboratories.org/ ),
we released a new version of OpenCV for PD,
version 0.2-rc4 that fixes the following issues :

##
version 0.2-rc4 ( codename BALTANIK )

* fixed colorspace problems for mac ppc
* contours detection objects ( hu_compare and pgh_compare )
now give the posititon of matching contours.
* a folder of examples have been added,
they should work with pd-extended.

##

you can find binaries for mac osx and linux packages on the wiki
as well as the source code ( for those who want to compile it ) here :
http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv

some videos of the workshop have been published here :
http://giss.tv/dmmdb/index.php?channel=pdopencv

well, lluis mainly fixed the problems
while i was at the coffee shop,
but it's time to go back there 

ciao,
sevy


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Re: [PD] An infinite number of acid + breakbeat loops + wii

2009-09-28 Thread Chris McCormick
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 05:20:21PM +0200, Christian Fischer wrote:
> this is a nice patch! Had a lot of fun with it over the weekend.

Glad you had fun!

> Now I  would like to connect your patch to a Wii controller and try how 
> it works...
>
> There should be a wiimidi object or something like, that.
> How is the libary called? Where to download?
>
> Im not that deep into PD yet, so maybe someone can help me out?

I think there are Wii-OSC libraries of various kinds. Not sure about wii midi,
although Googling the words "wii midi" the top two hits are solutions for mac
and then windows, so if you are running one of those operating systems it
should not be too hard.

Once you have that working you can make an object in Pd like [ctlin] (right
click it to get help) and connect it up to the number boxes in the patch, which
are conveniently ranged from 0 to 127. It's a huge step sideways for acid and
breakbeats.

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Re: [PD] Percolate

2009-09-28 Thread dmotd
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> dmotd wrote:
>> i'm just looking at the license now and i'm not sure that this is 
>> acutally a problem.. looks like an open style license.. not for resale, 
>> non-commerical educaton use only, must credit authors and distribute  
>> license. 
>
> which sounds incompatible with GPL (which is what PdX is distributed under).

ahh, right, i'd overlooked that it might be too 
restrictive.. thats too bad. could it still be added 
to the svn repository?

dmotd

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Re: [PD] Percolate

2009-09-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig

dmotd wrote:
i'm just looking at the license now and i'm not sure 
that this is acutally a problem.. looks like an open 
style license.. not for resale, non-commerical 
educaton use only, must credit authors and distribute 
license. 


which sounds incompatible with GPL (which is what PdX is distributed under).

mfgasdr
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