Re: [PD] fast cam

[Dario Pedrioli]

In linux with a ps3 eye camera i've reached (thanks to kaswy - ps3 eye linux
driver )
75 fps @ 640*480
125 fps @ 320*240

You can use more than one camera at a time - only tried with two cameras
succesfully (i've only two of this:-) -> 60 fps @ 1280*480 (used form motion
tracking purpose)
(OT: the only problem I have is: how to compose the two images into one
single image to feed a single pix_blob? If someone can help...)

The video quality is excellent (compared to other webcams) - a little noisy
in low light but very good in normal light.

You can choose Exposure, color balance etc... (auto or manual)

The lenses have 2 zoom factor 56 and 75 degrees.
There is the possibility to hack the hardware and have a M12 lens mount on
it to have a wide range of lenses.

Last, but not least: the price is very very low compared to other solutions
(40 euros each).

ciao!
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Re: [PD] fast cam

[Loic Kessous]

I used a IEEE 1394 point grey flea2 some month ago, on os X, wondows  
and linux, but with linux I had difficulty to make it work and in  
particular with pd (I don't remember exactly as I also tried ps3 and  
others and several other things including acquisition with openCV true  
some externals that I made). On os X it was working natively for sure  
(try quicktime I suppose ...), on windows with a special driver. I  
must say that as I'm not a pure linux guy, so I maybe missed something.
I used also another one quit similar from another brand, but more  
expensive, with additional optic (I still try to remember her name...)


I just see that point grey has new products, maybe you should have a  
look.

loic
On 21 oct. 09, at 11:27, cyrille henry wrote:


hello,

did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more,  
with good video quality) with pd/Gem?


i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how to do  
this.


thanks
Cyrille
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Re: [PD] fast cam

[Pall Thayer]

Actually, I meant as in "Spinal Tap" - "It goes to 11!"

:-)

Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Pall Thayer wrote:


Jean-Michel Dumas wrote:
Some models go up to 200fps 

Mine goes to 11.


You mean 1.1 ? as in USB 1.1...

Still have a bunch of those cams around.

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[PD] very small form-factor PC for running PD

[alejo]

On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:51 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:


[PD] very small form-factor PC for running PD



we use the alix computers = x86, actually running gentoo with pd  
vanilla pd-0.4.2 + oggcast~, moonlib, ++ on a project called  
streambox[1]


the specs of the boxes are 500mhz, 256ram, monitor output, sound card,  
2 usb ports, 1 ethernet port and a minipci slot for a wireless card if  
needed.


look for alix3d3 at pcengines:
http://pcengines.ch/order.php

/a

[1]some notes about it go in here: 
http://locusonus.org/w/index.php?page=Locustream+Streambox+FAQ

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Re: [PD] readanysf~ for Mac/Intel

[alejo]

hola hans,

On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:51 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:


readanysf~ for Mac/Intel


tried placing them there in my ~/Library/Pd, but this is where i got:

/Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin: dlopen(/ 
Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin, 10): Library  
not loaded: /sw/lib/libgavl.1.dylib
  Referenced from: /Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/ 
readanysf~.pd_darwin

  Reason: image not found
 readanysf~ 2 12 1024
... couldn't create

error: [import]: can't load library in 'readanysf~'
... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu.

seems the path to the libs differs, should i place them elsewhere?

gracias y un saludo,
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Re: [PD] fast cam

[Jack]

>From Point Grey, there is the Grasshopper model :
http://www.ptgrey.com/products/grasshopper/index.asp
The version GRAS-03K2M/C works at 640x480 and 200 fps.
Is there any delay ? I don't know.
About Linux support :
http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=4&q=17
++

Jack


Le vendredi 23 octobre 2009 à 09:34 +0200, Loic Kessous a écrit :
> I used a IEEE 1394 point grey flea2 some month ago, on os X, wondows  
> and linux, but with linux I had difficulty to make it work and in  
> particular with pd (I don't remember exactly as I also tried ps3 and  
> others and several other things including acquisition with openCV true  
> some externals that I made). On os X it was working natively for sure  
> (try quicktime I suppose ...), on windows with a special driver. I  
> must say that as I'm not a pure linux guy, so I maybe missed something.
> I used also another one quit similar from another brand, but more  
> expensive, with additional optic (I still try to remember her name...)
> 
> I just see that point grey has new products, maybe you should have a  
> look.
> loic
> On 21 oct. 09, at 11:27, cyrille henry wrote:
> 
> > hello,
> >
> > did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more,  
> > with good video quality) with pd/Gem?
> >
> > i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how to do  
> > this.
> >
> > thanks
> > Cyrille
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[PD] pdp and images

[Kasper Jordaens]

Hi,

I'm trying to overlay an image on a video in [pdp_imageloader], this all
works fine, but I can't scale the images dynamically. offset works and
rotate, but no scale?
pdp_imgloader has a "fit to video screen" option, so scaling seems to be in
there somewhere?

are there other objects in pdp that do this? I don't want to mix with gem if
not absolutely necessary.


Thanks


Kasper
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[PD] [announce] reminder : Pure Data Patching Circle @ Okno - 25/10/09

[Olm-e]

EN/

hello,
this is a little reminder about the Pure Data Patching Circle this month
in Okno  (30-34 koolemijnenkaai 1080 moolenbeek
/ Brussels)
it will take place this sunday 25, starting at 14h until 18h

we'll continue to explore the sound creation and processing techniques
with Guilleaume Rabusseau, french musician and musicologist based in
Berlin, with a special focus on real-time treatment and effects for this
session.

but feel free to come with your own project and questions...

this is a free event, just take you laptop with you.
(please send a mail to ol[at]okno.be to announce your presence for
better planning)

 next session : sun 22 November 2009

FR/

Hello,
juste un petit rappel concernant le Pure Data Patching Circle de ce mois
à Okno  (30-34 quai aux charbonnages 1080
moolenbeek / bxl)
ça se passe ce dimanche 25 à partir de 14h jusqu'à 18h.

Nous continuerons à explorer les processus de création et altération
sonore, avec Guilleaume Rabusseau, musicien et musicologue français basé
à Berlin, avec un focus particulier cette fois sur les questions de
traitements et effets sur le son en temps réel.

Mais vous pouvez aussi venir avec vos propres projets et questions...

Cet évènement est gratuis, juste prennez votre ordinateur portable avec
vous.
(prévennez de votre présence à ol[at]okno.be pour une meilleure
organisation)

 session suivante : dim 22 novembre 2009



Thanks to/ supporté par : le Ministère de la Culture de la Communauté
Française de Belgique - arts numériques


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Re: [PD] fast cam

[cyrille henry]

hello

thanks all for your answer and for the links.

Cyrille


Jack a écrit :

From Point Grey, there is the Grasshopper model :

http://www.ptgrey.com/products/grasshopper/index.asp
The version GRAS-03K2M/C works at 640x480 and 200 fps.
Is there any delay ? I don't know.
About Linux support :
http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=4&q=17
++

Jack


Le vendredi 23 octobre 2009 à 09:34 +0200, Loic Kessous a écrit :
I used a IEEE 1394 point grey flea2 some month ago, on os X, wondows  
and linux, but with linux I had difficulty to make it work and in  
particular with pd (I don't remember exactly as I also tried ps3 and  
others and several other things including acquisition with openCV true  
some externals that I made). On os X it was working natively for sure  
(try quicktime I suppose ...), on windows with a special driver. I  
must say that as I'm not a pure linux guy, so I maybe missed something.
I used also another one quit similar from another brand, but more  
expensive, with additional optic (I still try to remember her name...)


I just see that point grey has new products, maybe you should have a  
look.

loic
On 21 oct. 09, at 11:27, cyrille henry wrote:


hello,

did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more,  
with good video quality) with pd/Gem?


i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how to do  
this.


thanks
Cyrille
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Re: [PD] fast cam

[cyrille henry]

Pall Thayer a écrit :

Actually, I meant as in "Spinal Tap" - "It goes to 11!"

ahahah,
i didn't get it the fist time!

C



:-)

Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Pall Thayer wrote:


Jean-Michel Dumas wrote:
Some models go up to 200fps 

Mine goes to 11.


You mean 1.1 ? as in USB 1.1...

Still have a bunch of those cams around.

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Re: [PD] pdp and images

[ydego...@gmail.com]

Ola,

there is only the fit to screen option
when the quality is set to 1 ...

to have really all facilities to move,
and scale the image,
you should use an 'pdp_ocanvas'
after pdp_imgloader
to position the image where you want 

massalami,
sevy

Kasper Jordaens wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to overlay an image on a video in [pdp_imageloader], this 
all works fine, but I can't scale the images dynamically. offset works 
and rotate, but no scale?
pdp_imgloader has a "fit to video screen" option, so scaling seems to 
be in there somewhere?


are there other objects in pdp that do this? I don't want to mix with 
gem if not absolutely necessary.



Thanks


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Re: [PD] fast cam

[Mathieu Bouchard]

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009, Pall Thayer wrote:


Actually, I meant as in "Spinal Tap" - "It goes to 11!" :-)


Yeah... I understood. I had heard of that joke over a decade before I 
finally watched Spinal Tap.


But I was trying to make another joke on top of it.

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Re: [PD] fast cam

[lluisgomez]

there is good database for that kind of cameras here ::

The IEEE1394 Digital Camera List   
http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/cameras/search/


ya ... under linux they are suposed to work all under libdc1394  
http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/libdc1394/


coriander is nice control software using lindc1394  
http://sourceforge.net/projects/coriander/


also there is unicap, an API that supports dc's  
(http://www.unicap-imaging.org/)

is Gem0.92 able to use unicap?
i'm not sure but if it's dc's should work... i never test it ...

me and yves write a very basic implementation of pdp_dc1394 but  
atually it only works with unibrain monochrome cameras ...


salutt,
ll


Quoting cyrille henry :


hello

thanks all for your answer and for the links.

Cyrille


Jack a écrit :

From Point Grey, there is the Grasshopper model :

http://www.ptgrey.com/products/grasshopper/index.asp
The version GRAS-03K2M/C works at 640x480 and 200 fps.
Is there any delay ? I don't know.
About Linux support :
http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=4&q=17
++

Jack


Le vendredi 23 octobre 2009 à 09:34 +0200, Loic Kessous a écrit :
I used a IEEE 1394 point grey flea2 some month ago, on os X,   
wondows  and linux, but with linux I had difficulty to make it   
work and in  particular with pd (I don't remember exactly as I   
also tried ps3 and  others and several other things including   
acquisition with openCV true  some externals that I made). On os X  
 it was working natively for sure  (try quicktime I suppose ...),   
on windows with a special driver. I  must say that as I'm not a   
pure linux guy, so I maybe missed something.
I used also another one quit similar from another brand, but more   
 expensive, with additional optic (I still try to remember her   
name...)


I just see that point grey has new products, maybe you should have a  look.
loic
On 21 oct. 09, at 11:27, cyrille henry wrote:


hello,

did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more,   
 with good video quality) with pd/Gem?


i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how to  
 do  this.


thanks
Cyrille
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Re: [PD] fast cam

[ydego...@gmail.com]

lluisgo...@hangar.org wrote:


there is good database for that kind of cameras here ::

The IEEE1394 Digital Camera List  
http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/cameras/search/


ya ... under linux they are suposed to work all under libdc1394 
http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/libdc1394/


coriander is nice control software using lindc1394 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/coriander/


also there is unicap, an API that supports dc's 
(http://www.unicap-imaging.org/)

is Gem0.92 able to use unicap?
i'm not sure but if it's dc's should work... i never test it ...

me and yves write a very basic implementation of pdp_dc1394 but 
atually it only works with unibrain monochrome cameras ...



you wrote it, me, i was at the coffee shop..
then i integrated in pidip ... but hidden...

but yeh, it's optional in svn/PiDiP
if you install libdc1394 and do a ./configure,
it should compile and you can try it
( as announced, very experimental
and only monochrome )

but pd-extended doesn't use autotools,
so you can only try it if you compile pidip yourself ...
( hihi, sorry this reminds me of another thread )..

saludos,
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Re: [PD] fast cam

[Pall Thayer]

#N canvas 1 48 450 300 10;
#X obj 169 34 vsl 15 170 0 11 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -9 0 10 -262144
-1 -1 16900 1;
#X text 153 177 1;
#X text 153 162 2;
#X text 153 147 3;
#X text 153 132 4;
#X text 153 116 5;
#X text 153 101 6;
#X text 153 86 7;
#X text 153 71 8;
#X text 153 56 9;
#X text 148 41 10;
#X text 148 26 11;
#X text 153 194 0;
#X floatatom 169 219 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X connect 0 0 13 0;


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Re: [PD] fast cam

[Mathieu Bouchard]

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009, Páll Þayer wrote:


#N canvas 1 48 450 300 10;
#X obj 169 34 vsl 15 170 0 11 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -9 0 10 -262144
-1 -1 16900 1;


  http://www.cloudera.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/volume_dials.jpg
  
http://rlv.zcache.com/spinal_tap_one_louder_tshirt-p235551580107438137trlf_400.jpg

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Re: [PD] fast cam

[Pall Thayer]

Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009, Páll Þayer wrote:


#N canvas 1 48 450 300 10;
#X obj 169 34 vsl 15 170 0 11 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -9 0 10 -262144
-1 -1 16900 1;


  http://www.cloudera.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/volume_dials.jpg
  
http://rlv.zcache.com/spinal_tap_one_louder_tshirt-p235551580107438137trlf_400.jpg 


http://www.joshuatopolsky.com/2008/07/05/the-bbcs-iplayer-volume-goes-to-11-what-dont-you-understand-about-that/

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[PD] Firmata 2.1beta7 and Pduino 0.5beta6 released!

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

We have a new beta release we a major feature and minor fix:

- Shigeru Kobayashi added support running servos on almost all the pins!
- Hernando Barragán added some fixes for building for the Wiring board.

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino

I tested this on a Diecimila and original Arduino.  These are the only  
Arduinos I have, so testing and bug reports on those are very  
helpful.  There are no outstanding bugs that I know of, if I hear of  
no other bugs, I think this one will be the final release!


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Re: [PD] fast cam

[Roman Haefeli]

On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 09:25 +0200, Dario Pedrioli wrote:
> In linux with a ps3 eye camera i've reached (thanks to kaswy - ps3 eye
> linux driver)
> 75 fps @ 640*480 
> 125 fps @ 320*240

do you mind providing some more info? i also have a ps3 eye cam and i
also use a patched gspca-ov534 driver. however, i haven't figured out
how to capture something else than 640x...@30fps. i tried with gem
(using libv4l), ucview and mplayer. this is on ubuntu hardy (8.04). how
do you change the framerate and dimensions?

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[PD] PDuino example update frequency

[daniel]

Hi!

Thanks to PDuino I just managed to get analogue data from my Arduino Mega
using PDuino example patch arduino-test.pd, with virtually no effort at
all. Fantastic! Now, as I am comparatively new to PD, I have been looking
all over the patch for a metronome or something that determines the
(1-second?) analogue readout period. I am using the SimpleAnalogFirmata
firmware, but if I assume correctly, this rate is set somewhere in the PD
patch?

Best regards,

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Re: [PD] PDuino example update frequency

[tim vets]

Hey Daniel,

If i remember correctly, there are [speedlim 100] objects used in the
arduino-test patch.
So the speed is limited to one read every 100 ms.
It's somewhere in the analog input subpatch (i don't have it here so i can't
verify now)

hope this helps,
Tim


2009/10/23 

> Hi!
>
> Thanks to PDuino I just managed to get analogue data from my Arduino Mega
> using PDuino example patch arduino-test.pd, with virtually no effort at
> all. Fantastic! Now, as I am comparatively new to PD, I have been looking
> all over the patch for a metronome or something that determines the
> (1-second?) analogue readout period. I am using the SimpleAnalogFirmata
> firmware, but if I assume correctly, this rate is set somewhere in the PD
> patch?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Daniel
>
>
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[PD] [PD-announce] PD installation in Sewanee, Tennessee

[Greg Pond]

There is currently a PD installation in our university's gallery in
Sewanee Tennessee ( hometown of Miller Puckette)

http://art.sewanee.edu/art/2009/10/21/nowcasting-reception-and-talk/

the press release is below.

Greg


Sewanee’s University Art Gallery presents Nowcasting, an installation
created by the collaborative group TEH. It will be on view in the
University Gallery from October 9 – November 22, 2009.  There will be
an artists’ talk and reception on Friday, October 23rd at 4:30 pm in
Convocation Hall, immediately adjacent to the University Art Gallery.

Visitors to Nowcasting will experience the building of a digitized
storm in the confines of the gallery. Like TEH’s other works, this
installation is intended to “challenge the senses through the use of
simulation, and present weather/environment through mediated, virtual
and physical processes.” Entering a gallery space transformed by
sound, visitors will question the reality of what their senses tell
them about the surrounding environment.



TEH includes the artists Phillip Andrew Lewis, Adam Trowbridge and
Jessica Westbrook. They named their collaboration TEH after a mistake
commonly made when using a keyboard – typing “teh” instead of “the.”
This name represents the group’s interest in how an actively
participating audience can be a factor in the meaning of an artwork.
Individuals have unintended and surprising effects on the messages
they create and receive. This name also represents the group’s
interest in the difficulties of communication. Messages are often
scrambled, or mean different things to different people.
Representations intended to simulate reality can never be exactly the
same thing.



TEH uses modern interactive technologies to create their
installations, but is also interested in examining the impact and
meaning of those technologies for their users. In a world where we are
surrounded by televisions, wii games, computers and cell phones, how
is our experience of that world changed? The group’s current focus is
on the intersection of technology with weather and specific physical
sites. In today’s world, we experience even something as essential as
the weather mediated through technology. What are the implications if
technology can fool our senses and convincingly simulate real physical
experience?



Phillip Andrew Lewis often explores the viewer’s navigation of mental
and physical environments in his work. He received his Bachelor of
Arts in Psychology from the University of Memphis, and his MFA from
the Memphis College of Art. In 2005 Lewis established Medicine
Factory, a contemporary art space in downtown Memphis, and has
exhibited nationally and internationally. His professional awards
include a 2009 Digital Art Commission from the Austin Peay State
University New Media Program, a 2008 Tennessee Arts Commission
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Re: [PD] very small form-factor PC for running PD

[Jaime Oliver]

can you run a dual core in it?


On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Daniel Wilcox  wrote:
> I have an Artigo kit. Pico-itx running Ubuntu.  Pd runs great.  The Artigo
> fan is a bit loud though.  The power supply is 12 v I believe and you can
> buy a DC auto converter for it.
>
> A pic is attached.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:51 AM,  wrote:
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Martin Peach 
>> To: Martin Dupras 
>> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:08:47 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [PD] very small form-factor PC for running PD
>> Martin Dupras wrote:
>>>
>>> For a project I'm working on, I need a very small computer capable or
>>> running PD in an enclosure ideally smaller than 20cmx15cm.
>>>
>>> It doesn't need to have a screen, but it needs to have at least two
>>> USB ports and be able to be run on 12v DC or lower.
>>>
>>> Has anyone come across anything like this?
>>>
>>
>> nano-itx form factor is 12 × 12 cm
>> pico-itx is 10 x 7.2 cm
>> Most of them can run MSW or linux.
>> Power supplies with 12V input are very small.
>> This one looks interesting:
>> http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/embedded/artigo
>>
>>
>> Martin
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Re: [PD] readanysf~ for Mac/Intel

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Ok, let's try again, this time in /Library/Pd:

http://puredata.info/Members/hans/ReadAnySf

.hc

On Oct 23, 2009, at 5:22 AM, alejo wrote:


hola hans,

On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:51 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:


readanysf~ for Mac/Intel


tried placing them there in my ~/Library/Pd, but this is where i got:

/Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin: dlopen(/ 
Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin, 10):  
Library not loaded: /sw/lib/libgavl.1.dylib
 Referenced from: /Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/ 
readanysf~.pd_darwin

 Reason: image not found
readanysf~ 2 12 1024
... couldn't create

error: [import]: can't load library in 'readanysf~'
... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu.

seems the path to the libs differs, should i place them elsewhere?

gracias y un saludo,
/a


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Re: [PD] PDuino example update frequency

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

The speedlims are in the object called [pd display values without  
pegging the CPU].  Connect before that to get the full speed data.


.hc

On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:10 PM, tim vets wrote:


Hey Daniel,

If i remember correctly, there are [speedlim 100] objects used in  
the arduino-test patch.

So the speed is limited to one read every 100 ms.
It's somewhere in the analog input subpatch (i don't have it here so  
i can't verify now)


hope this helps,
Tim


2009/10/23 
Hi!

Thanks to PDuino I just managed to get analogue data from my Arduino  
Mega
using PDuino example patch arduino-test.pd, with virtually no effort  
at
all. Fantastic! Now, as I am comparatively new to PD, I have been  
looking

all over the patch for a metronome or something that determines the
(1-second?) analogue readout period. I am using the  
SimpleAnalogFirmata
firmware, but if I assume correctly, this rate is set somewhere in  
the PD

patch?

Best regards,

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Re: [PD] fast cam

[Jaime Oliver]

check this tutorial...

best,

J

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Roman Haefeli  wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 09:25 +0200, Dario Pedrioli wrote:
>> In linux with a ps3 eye camera i've reached (thanks to kaswy - ps3 eye
>> linux driver)
>> 75 fps @ 640*480
>> 125 fps @ 320*240
>
> do you mind providing some more info? i also have a ps3 eye cam and i
> also use a patched gspca-ov534 driver. however, i haven't figured out
> how to capture something else than 640x...@30fps. i tried with gem
> (using libv4l), ucview and mplayer. this is on ubuntu hardy (8.04). how
> do you change the framerate and dimensions?
>
> roman
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Re: [PD] fast cam

[Jaime Oliver]

also, that page links to the driver in the downloads page in case you
have a different pathed driver. that one has been quite stable,
although in my case, anything over 75fps, drops a frame every once in
a while

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Jaime Oliver  wrote:
> check this tutorial...
>
> best,
>
> J
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Roman Haefeli  wrote:
>> On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 09:25 +0200, Dario Pedrioli wrote:
>>> In linux with a ps3 eye camera i've reached (thanks to kaswy - ps3 eye
>>> linux driver)
>>> 75 fps @ 640*480
>>> 125 fps @ 320*240
>>
>> do you mind providing some more info? i also have a ps3 eye cam and i
>> also use a patched gspca-ov534 driver. however, i haven't figured out
>> how to capture something else than 640x...@30fps. i tried with gem
>> (using libv4l), ucview and mplayer. this is on ubuntu hardy (8.04). how
>> do you change the framerate and dimensions?
>>
>> roman
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [PD] fast cam

[Martin Schied]

Roman Haefeli wrote:

do you mind providing some more info? i also have a ps3 eye cam and i
also use a patched gspca-ov534 driver. however, i haven't figured out
how to capture something else than 640x...@30fps. i tried with gem
(using libv4l), ucview and mplayer. this is on ubuntu hardy (8.04). how
do you change the framerate and dimensions?

roman

  

Hi!

You probably will have to change the "videomode" at module load time or 
unload and reload the module with the desired settings, see also here:


http://kaswy.free.fr/?q=node/42

(link is quite old, maybe there where some changes)

cheers
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Re: [PD] very small form-factor PC for running PD

[Jaime Oliver]

well, i run gem/video analysis on one processor and pd/audio on the other...

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>
> The pic itx I have uses a 1 Ghz via. Check out mini-itx.com.  You can get a
> dual core atom min-itx, although it will be at least twice as large.
> Why dual core?  I run pd in realtime on Linux without the X gui on a small
> computer (500Mhz) and it runs without drop outs using a usb soundcard.
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 8:34 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
>
> can you run a dual core in it?
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Daniel Wilcox  wrote:
>
> I have an Artigo kit. Pico-itx running Ubuntu.  Pd runs great.  The Artigo
>
> fan is a bit loud though.  The power supply is 12 v I believe and you can
>
> buy a DC auto converter for it.
>
> A pic is attached.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:51 AM,  wrote:
>
> -- Forwarded message --
>
> From: Martin Peach 
>
> To: Martin Dupras 
>
> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:08:47 -0400
>
> Subject: Re: [PD] very small form-factor PC for running PD
>
> Martin Dupras wrote:
>
> For a project I'm working on, I need a very small computer capable or
>
> running PD in an enclosure ideally smaller than 20cmx15cm.
>
> It doesn't need to have a screen, but it needs to have at least two
>
> USB ports and be able to be run on 12v DC or lower.
>
> Has anyone come across anything like this?
>
>
> nano-itx form factor is 12 × 12 cm
>
> pico-itx is 10 x 7.2 cm
>
> Most of them can run MSW or linux.
>
> Power supplies with 12V input are very small.
>
> This one looks interesting:
>
> http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/embedded/artigo
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [PD] fast cam

[simoniten]

On a sidenote:

this is a really fast cam (up to 1 million pix per seconds)

watch it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKR4atl8h-I

but i guess that's a little to expensive for you :-)


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Re: [PD] very small form-factor PC for running PD

[Jaime Oliver]

indeed, that is what i have, but it's always tempting to go smaller...

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
>
> well, i run gem/video analysis on one processor and pd/audio on the other...
>
> ah ok, then I'd say get a dual core atom mini-itx with an nvidia pci express
> card
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> danomatika.com
> robotcowboy.com
>
>
>
>



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Re: [PD] very small form-factor PC for running PD

[Dan Wilcox]

On Oct 23, 2009, at 9:57 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:


indeed, that is what i have, but it's always tempting to go smaller...

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Dan Wilcox   
wrote:


On Oct 23, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:

well, i run gem/video analysis on one processor and pd/audio on the  
other...


ah ok, then I'd say get a dual core atom mini-itx with an nvidia  
pci express

card


ah ok.  Well, in that case I'd discourage you from going smaller.  The  
via linux drivers blow ... utterly.  I could not get the unichorme  
graphics driver to work correctly in Ubuntu and gave up.  The win  
drivers work, but the machines are probably not going to be fast  
enough versus something with a dedicated gpu.


For audio only, it works.


Dan Wilcox
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robotcowboy.com




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Re: [PD] readanysf~ for Mac/Intel

[alejo]

hola hans,

On Oct 23, 2009, at 8:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



Ok, let's try again, this time in /Library/Pd:




still nogo

same error as before:

/Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin: dlopen(/ 
Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin, 10): Library  
not loaded: /Library/Pd/readanysf~/libgavl.1.dylib
  Referenced from: /Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/ 
readanysf~.pd_darwin

  Reason: image not found
 readanysf~ 2 12 1024
... couldn't create

the pd im using is:

20090820

regards,
/a




http://puredata.info/Members/hans/ReadAnySf

.hc

On Oct 23, 2009, at 5:22 AM, alejo wrote:


hola hans,

On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:51 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:


readanysf~ for Mac/Intel


tried placing them there in my ~/Library/Pd, but this is where i got:

/Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin: dlopen(/ 
Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin, 10):  
Library not loaded: /sw/lib/libgavl.1.dylib
Referenced from: /Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/ 
readanysf~.pd_darwin

Reason: image not found
readanysf~ 2 12 1024
... couldn't create

error: [import]: can't load library in 'readanysf~'
... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu.

seems the path to the libs differs, should i place them elsewhere?

gracias y un saludo,
/a


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Re: [PD] fast cam

[Roman Haefeli]

On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 19:33 +0200, Dario Pedrioli wrote:
> Here's some useful links:
> 
> Driver
> Tutorial - installation and setting the driver
> Other settings: Autoexpo, gain etc...
> How to remove IR filter
> 
> To load the driver at 320*240 60 fps:
> sudo modprobe gspca_ov534 videomode=13
> 
> To unload the driver (eg: to change settings)
> sudo modprobe -r gspca_ov534
> 
> To automatically load at boot:
> 1 - add file "gspca_ov534" in /etc/modprobe.d with these line (only
> example)
> options gspca_ov534 videomode=13 autogain=0 exposure=200 sharpness=10
> 
> 2 - add at the bottom of the file /etc/modules the line:
> gspca_ov534
> 
> 
> I use it in GEM with succes (60 fps) - don't forget the message [frame
> 60< to gemwin.
> 
> Hope this help.

lovely! everything works just fine. many thanks. thanks also for the
modding links.

roman

 



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[PD] exploring polar-space in 1-bit (GridFlow 0.9.5 demo)

[mescali...@gmail.com]

fooling around with gridflow lately (and I'm enjoying it a lot!)

one nice addition in GridFlow 0.9.5 has been the c2p/p2c R² operators
(respectively cartesian-to-polar, and polar-to-cartesian)

just wanted to share this demonstration:
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/89643/gf_spirals_and_moire.avi

as well as this: (not truly 1-bit though)
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/89643/gf_spirals_and_moire_take2.avi


full ChangeLog for 0.9.5 release is at:
http://gridflow.ca/svn/tags/gridflow_0_9_5_b/ChangeLog
the patch I used to make the videos can be found in the examples
directory of GridFlow (svn)

cheers

~
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Re: [PD] very small form-factor PC for running PD

[Andy Farnell]

Yeah, I second that. Beware of trying this on
very small 'minimal' boards. The reliable solution
I have used time and again is mini ITX, VIA or Intel
with a stock Debian net install. 


For video, you can put X on, along with ssh, and
then use ssh -X to open a remote display, and then 
use the board as a headless sound engine.



On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:15:38 +0200
Dan Wilcox  wrote:

> 
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 9:57 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
> 
> > indeed, that is what i have, but it's always tempting to go smaller...
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Dan Wilcox   
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Oct 23, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
> >>
> >> well, i run gem/video analysis on one processor and pd/audio on the  
> >> other...
> >>
> >> ah ok, then I'd say get a dual core atom mini-itx with an nvidia  
> >> pci express
> >> card
> 
> ah ok.  Well, in that case I'd discourage you from going smaller.  The  
> via linux drivers blow ... utterly.  I could not get the unichorme  
> graphics driver to work correctly in Ubuntu and gave up.  The win  
> drivers work, but the machines are probably not going to be fast  
> enough versus something with a dedicated gpu.
> 
> For audio only, it works.
> 
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> danomatika.com
> robotcowboy.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[PD] introducing l2ork

[Ivica Ico Bukvic]

Greetings all,

I wanted to share with you my latest Linux-based and Linuxaudio.org-related
project that has been sucking up most of my time over the past year or so to
the point it seemed as if I have disappeared off the face of the Earth.
Needless to mention it continues to alter my sleeping/eating patterns with
unprecedented aptitude and with no end in sight ;-).

The project in question is to the best of my knowledge World's first Linux
Laptop Orchestra or simply L2Ork. Its software infrastructure currently
revolves mainly around Pd. As a result, there have been various enhancements
to Pd-extended, Linux gui enhancement (pd.tk posted a while ago) being one
of them. We are hoping to release final versions soon.

For more info: http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/

Best wishes,

Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Composition, Music Technology
Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio
Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD
CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy)
Virginia Tech
Dept. of Music - 0240
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
(540) 231-5034 (fax)
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Re: [PD] readanysf~ for Mac/Intel

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

You are still loading one from ~/Library/Pd (i.e. /Users/dspstv/ 
Library/Pd):



/Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin:


It needs to be in /Library/Pd, not ~/Library/Pd.  So remove anything  
readanysf~ from ~/Library/Pd i.e. Users/dspstv/Library/Pd)


.hc




On Oct 23, 2009, at 4:21 PM, alejo wrote:


hola hans,

On Oct 23, 2009, at 8:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



Ok, let's try again, this time in /Library/Pd:




still nogo

same error as before:

/Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin: dlopen(/ 
Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin, 10):  
Library not loaded: /Library/Pd/readanysf~/libgavl.1.dylib
 Referenced from: /Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/ 
readanysf~.pd_darwin

 Reason: image not found
readanysf~ 2 12 1024
... couldn't create

the pd im using is:

20090820

regards,
/a




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On Oct 23, 2009, at 5:22 AM, alejo wrote:


hola hans,

On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:51 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:


readanysf~ for Mac/Intel


tried placing them there in my ~/Library/Pd, but this is where i  
got:


/Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin: dlopen(/ 
Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin, 10):  
Library not loaded: /sw/lib/libgavl.1.dylib
Referenced from: /Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/ 
readanysf~.pd_darwin

Reason: image not found
readanysf~ 2 12 1024
... couldn't create

error: [import]: can't load library in 'readanysf~'
... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu.

seems the path to the libs differs, should i place them elsewhere?

gracias y un saludo,
/a


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Re: [PD] exploring polar-space in 1-bit (GridFlow 0.9.5 demo)

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Nice! can we see the patches?

.hc

On Oct 23, 2009, at 6:09 PM, mescali...@gmail.com wrote:


fooling around with gridflow lately (and I'm enjoying it a lot!)

one nice addition in GridFlow 0.9.5 has been the c2p/p2c R² operators
(respectively cartesian-to-polar, and polar-to-cartesian)

just wanted to share this demonstration:
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/89643/gf_spirals_and_moire.avi

as well as this: (not truly 1-bit though)
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/89643/gf_spirals_and_moire_take2.avi


full ChangeLog for 0.9.5 release is at:
http://gridflow.ca/svn/tags/gridflow_0_9_5_b/ChangeLog
the patch I used to make the videos can be found in the examples
directory of GridFlow (svn)

cheers

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Re: [PD] readanysf~ for Mac/Intel

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On Oct 24, 2009, at 2:38 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:




It needs to be in /Library/Pd, not ~/Library/Pd.  So remove anything  
readanysf~ from ~/Library/Pd i.e. Users/dspstv/Library/Pd)





"Created new readanysf~ with 2 channels and internal buffer of 12 *  
1024 = 12288"


thx,
/a










.hc




On Oct 23, 2009, at 4:21 PM, alejo wrote:


hola hans,

On Oct 23, 2009, at 8:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



Ok, let's try again, this time in /Library/Pd:




still nogo

same error as before:

/Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin: dlopen(/ 
Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin, 10):  
Library not loaded: /Library/Pd/readanysf~/libgavl.1.dylib
Referenced from: /Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/ 
readanysf~.pd_darwin

Reason: image not found
readanysf~ 2 12 1024
... couldn't create

the pd im using is:

20090820

regards,
/a




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.hc

On Oct 23, 2009, at 5:22 AM, alejo wrote:


hola hans,

On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:51 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:


readanysf~ for Mac/Intel


tried placing them there in my ~/Library/Pd, but this is where i  
got:


/Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin: dlopen(/ 
Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin, 10):  
Library not loaded: /sw/lib/libgavl.1.dylib
Referenced from: /Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/ 
readanysf~.pd_darwin

Reason: image not found
readanysf~ 2 12 1024
... couldn't create

error: [import]: can't load library in 'readanysf~'
... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu.

seems the path to the libs differs, should i place them elsewhere?

gracias y un saludo,
/a


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[PD] comment object

[Andres Ferrari]

the comment object is not visible inside of a subpatch(with graph on 
parent)...why?

when I create acomment by ctrl-5 this one is visible, but creating a comment 
object with options for size, font and color...this one is visible only in a 
main patch but invisible in a subpatch with graph on parent...any idea?

Andrés Ferrari G.



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Re: [PD] readanysf~ for Mac/Intel

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Woo hoo!  Enjoy, its really great.  I reads so many files and even  
live streams really easily.


.hc

On Oct 23, 2009, at 8:48 PM, alejo wrote:



On Oct 24, 2009, at 2:38 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:




It needs to be in /Library/Pd, not ~/Library/Pd.  So remove  
anything readanysf~ from ~/Library/Pd i.e. Users/dspstv/Library/Pd)





"Created new readanysf~ with 2 channels and internal buffer of 12 *  
1024 = 12288"


thx,
/a










.hc




On Oct 23, 2009, at 4:21 PM, alejo wrote:


hola hans,

On Oct 23, 2009, at 8:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



Ok, let's try again, this time in /Library/Pd:




still nogo

same error as before:

/Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin: dlopen(/ 
Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin, 10):  
Library not loaded: /Library/Pd/readanysf~/libgavl.1.dylib
Referenced from: /Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/ 
readanysf~.pd_darwin

Reason: image not found
readanysf~ 2 12 1024
... couldn't create

the pd im using is:

20090820

regards,
/a




http://puredata.info/Members/hans/ReadAnySf

.hc

On Oct 23, 2009, at 5:22 AM, alejo wrote:


hola hans,

On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:51 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:


readanysf~ for Mac/Intel


tried placing them there in my ~/Library/Pd, but this is where i  
got:


/Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin:  
dlopen(/Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/readanysf~.pd_darwin,  
10): Library not loaded: /sw/lib/libgavl.1.dylib
Referenced from: /Users/dspstv/Library/Pd/readanysf~/ 
readanysf~.pd_darwin

Reason: image not found
readanysf~ 2 12 1024
... couldn't create

error: [import]: can't load library in 'readanysf~'
... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu.

seems the path to the libs differs, should i place them elsewhere?

gracias y un saludo,
/a


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