Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example
mark edward grimm wrote: Hello, Been a while since I messed around with pix_artoolkit. A student of mine is really interested and I wanted to give her an example but I don't have time to write a patch Does anyone have an example that replaces the marker with a 3d model and tracking it across the gem win? Wow, that's good news - i never figured out how to get it recognize a marker. What camera did you use and on which OS? Would you mind posting your working patch to the list? I made a patch for a presentation of a wiimote tracking system for my master thesis. It shows a model wich reacts to movements of a 4-LED marker, pretty much what you were asking for and could be adapted easily. cheers Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] MAKE ART 09 - 0813 December 2009 - Poitiers
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make art is an international festival dedicated to the integration of
Free/Libre/Open Source Software (FLOSS) in digital art.
The fourth edition of make art - What The Fork?! distributed and open
practices in FLOSS art - will take place in Poitiers (FR), from the 8th
to the 13th of December 2009.
With Aharon Amir (GB), Wayne Clements (GB), FooCorp (GB), Gijs Gieskes
(NL), Gullibloon (AT/DE), Adnan Hadzi (CH), Lisa Haskel (GB), Reni
Hofmüller (AT), Olivier Laruelle (FR), LAFKON (DE), Anne Laforêt (FR),
Mattin (ES), Antoine Moreau (FR), Nathalie Magnan (FR), No Copy Paste
(HU), Noyade (FR), Jean Sépulchre (FR), Wesley Smith (US), Koray
Tahiro#lu (TR/FI), The Guardians of the Tradition (US), Taku Unami (JP),
Milovann Yanatchkov (FR), Simon Yuill (GB), Jérémie Zimmermann (FR),
IOhannes M. Zmölnig (AT), ...
http://makeart.goto10.org
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make art est un festival international dédié à l'intégration des
Logiciels Libres et Open Source (FLOSS*) dans l'art numérique.
*FLOSS = Free/Libre/Open Source Software
La quatrième édition de make art - What The Fork?! pratiques
distribuées et ouvertes en art logiciel libre - se déroule à Poitiers
(FR), du 8 au 13 décembre 2009.
Avec Aharon Amir (GB), Wayne Clements (GB), FooCorp (GB), Gijs Gieskes
(NL), Gullibloon (AT/DE), Adnan Hadzi (CH), Lisa Haskel (GB), Reni
Hofmüller (AT), Olivier Laruelle (FR), LAFKON (DE), Anne Laforêt (FR),
Mattin (ES), Antoine Moreau (FR), Nathalie Magnan (FR), No Copy Paste
(HU), Noyade (FR), Jean Sépulchre (FR), Wesley Smith (US), Koray
Tahiro#lu (TR/FI), The Guardians of the Tradition (US), Taku Unami (JP),
Milovann Yanatchkov (FR), Simon Yuill (GB), Jérémie Zimmermann (FR),
IOhannes M. Zmölnig (AT), ...
http://makeart.goto10.org
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echo '[++.]++.[-],]' ) | (
echo '#include stdio.h'
echo '#include stdlib.h'
echo 'int main(int c, char **a){'
echo 'char *makeart = calloc(2009,1);'
sed -e 's/+/++*makeart;\n/g' \
-e 's/-/--*makeart;\n/g' \
-e 's//++makeart;\n/g' \
-e 's//--makeart;\n/g' \
-e 's/\./putchar\(*makeart\);\n/g' \
-e 's/,/{int i = getchar\(\);if\(i!=EOF\)*makeart=i;}\n/g' \
-e 's/\[/while\(*makeart\){\n/g' \
-e 's/\]/}\n/g' \
-e 't' \
-e 's/.//g'
echo 'return 0;}'
) | gcc -O2 -Wall -std=c99 -pedantic -o makeart -xc -
./makeart | ./makeart
)
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Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example
hey this is awesome thanks i will try this out when I get the chance to do so ... probably tomorrow morn.. Cheers! mark --- On Sat, 11/21/09, Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net wrote: From: Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net Subject: Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example To: mgr...@syr.edu Cc: pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 8:39 PM mark edward grimm wrote: attached is what i found in my archive from last year. sorry there is some pdmtl code in there it looks like. otherwise the camera_para.dat and patt.hiro have to sit at / looks like there was some cube code in there too... i never got a chance to get it going though. hmm. no luck today. tried an eyetoy camera @ 640x480 using your patch, the freshly compiled pix_artoolkit external and a hiro pattern. unfortunately i didn't use the most recent Gem from svn (I'll do so when I'm awake again). I attached a patch showing the use of a transformation matrix which you'll get from most tracking systems. I'm not quite sure which format it'll be from artoolkit, but I'm sure its not compatible with mine out of the box. also units migt be some factors too big (marker size is given in millimeters, so i assume the translation will also be set in mm. I saw there's an option to use quaternion output for rotations (I'm not very familiar with that) or normal output which is is probably a 3d vector for translation and a rotation matrix. cheers martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example
you can try pd_opencv also : http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/lib ah yes. might this be in pd-extended' soon? or is it already maybe? intended? freshmen art students would need this for a quick out-of-the-box solution... at least in my class... :) mark --- On Tue, 11/24/09, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com wrote: From: ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example To: Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net Cc: mgr...@syr.edu, pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:45 AM Martin Schied wrote: mark edward grimm wrote: Hello, Been a while since I messed around with pix_artoolkit. A student of mine is really interested and I wanted to give her an example but I don't have time to write a patch Does anyone have an example that replaces the marker with a 3d model and tracking it across the gem win? Wow, that's good news - i never figured out how to get it recognize a marker. What camera did you use and on which OS? Would you mind posting your working patch to the list? I made a patch for a presentation of a wiimote tracking system for my master thesis. It shows a model wich reacts to movements of a 4-LED marker, pretty much what you were asking for and could be adapted easily. cheers Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list you can try pd_opencv also : http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/lib/exe/detail.php?id=start%3Apuredata_opencvcache=cachemedia=start:pdp_opencv_pgh_compare.png sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example
got it thanks! I will take a look this afternoon and get back to you... Cheers mark --- On Mon, 11/23/09, Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net wrote: From: Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net Subject: Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example To: mgr...@syr.edu Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 2:52 PM hi, mark I did some quick changes which should let you display something. the gemwin is now 10 times bigger than usual, and the far clipping plane beyond which everything disappears is set to 3000, you might want to adjust that. to me it seems like it outputs millimeters as unit - but maybe it's no sensible unit at all. the size of the cube 40 is actually a 80x 80x80 cube which matches the default marker size. if you plan to use artoolkit as an augmented reality device you'll have to measure your isight camera somehow and adjust your virtual camera in the gemwin to match your real camera's parameters. it's also possible to do it without measurements, but it can be an endless gefrickel (I realized that at a point and then did the measurements which made everything more comfortable for my tracking system). it's not that difficult, but my experience was that I had to carefully note everything and make some drawings, showing the relations between the real camera's angles and and the virtual camera. maybe check some computer graphics books for details on that. if they are to mathematical - throw it away and get another one, this stuff can also be explained in an easy to understand manner... cheers martin hey martin... off list heres some of the data im getting when the marker gets recognized... thanks! mark ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example
Martin Schied wrote: mark edward grimm wrote: Hello, Been a while since I messed around with pix_artoolkit. A student of mine is really interested and I wanted to give her an example but I don't have time to write a patch Does anyone have an example that replaces the marker with a 3d model and tracking it across the gem win? Wow, that's good news - i never figured out how to get it recognize a marker. What camera did you use and on which OS? Would you mind posting your working patch to the list? I made a patch for a presentation of a wiimote tracking system for my master thesis. It shows a model wich reacts to movements of a 4-LED marker, pretty much what you were asking for and could be adapted easily. cheers Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list you can try pd_opencv also : http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/lib/exe/detail.php?id=start%3Apuredata_opencvcache=cachemedia=start:pdp_opencv_pgh_compare.png sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] ATTENTION to all pd-list and pd-dev users!
If you have any mails that timed out after 1 or 2 days, you should re-send them, and now is the time! Note that it says Permanent failure in that case, and not Temporary failure (The latter of which means: it's still on auto-retry) Some mail servers auto-retry for only 1 day, some others auto-retry for 4 days. (I have no idea how many are one way or the other but I've seen both). When a mail is on auto-retry, it may take a few hours until the next retry. Some threads may be received in the wrong order, but fortunately, the Date: field still works, etc. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example
mark edward grimm wrote: on extended 0.41.4 so im assuming something was fixed (obviously :) maybe from out of the last discussion from last year? i cant find thread because it seems like the list is down again... your on linux no? hi, yes, I'm on linux (ubuntu intrepid). I just downloaded the 0.42.5 intrepid autobuild but artoolkit-support isn't compiled in there. Seems like only mac (and windows?) versions have artoolkit support compiled in. I was using pd-extended 0.41.1 and the 0.92.1 gem release from sourceforge yesterday. later today I noticed that I was in error again when writing that pix_artoolkit isn't contained in gem-svn, it's there, but in an extra folder and I didn't manage to compile it... hoping the list comes back soon to give some more answers... cheers Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] robotcowboy on the ars facade: pd controls a building
I finally got around to putting a video together form my short show on the ars facade during the festival this year: http://vimeo.com/7741821 Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example
hi martin, sorry i was wrong in stating that i was using: pd-extended 41.4 release on osx 10.6.2 I am actually using the latest autobuild off hans site so: Pd version 0.42.5-extended GEM: ver: 0.92.1 with this version of extended i get: [pix_artoolkit]: ARToolKit support by Shigeyuki Hirai when loading pix_artoolkit rather than: error: [pix_artoolkit]: compiled without ARToolKit support! on extended 0.41.4 so im assuming something was fixed (obviously :) maybe from out of the last discussion from last year? i cant find thread because it seems like the list is down again... your on linux no? its right outlet), I'd be interested in what camera, ah... built in isight.. i left the printed hiro test pattern at the uni so ill give you some data printouts tomorrow morn when i get in... I will take a look at your new patch you sent too! Thanks! mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 --- On Sun, 11/22/09, Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net wrote: From: Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net Subject: Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example To: mgr...@syr.edu Cc: pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 4:42 PM hi again. now I compiled the current gem release 0.92.1 from sourceforge (I could not find pix_artoolkit in svn) it contains some changes compared to my older version of pix_artoolkit source code, but unfortunately again no markers are recognized with my setup (pix_artoolkit does't output anything on its right outlet.) I also had a look at the cube part of the help patch you sent me and also the sources of pix_artoolkit. It seems it outputs 7 values which are: the translation (position) as a vector x y z, an other vector 'x y z' which is the direction of the detected rotation axis (the rotation normal) and a rotation angle around this axis. so the draw cube part of your help patch should work just fine if everything else (marker detection, marker recognition) works. maybe the size of the cube (40) is too big to see anything or the cube is only drawn behind the video. i changed that, see attachment. when i was working with tracking data in general I scaled everything to usual gem units, so that for example a desired range of 0 to 40 cm went from 0 to 4. so it fits in the usual gemwin for quick tests. I have no idea which units the external will output - choose a smaller size for the marker than 80, until you can see something useful. my assumptions about the output of pix_artoolkit from yesterday are completely wrong (there's no matrix output) - so the patch I sent you before is pretty useless - sorry for that. if pix_artoolkit is working for you (outputting anything on its right outlet), I'd be interested in what camera, resolution, version of Gem you are using. Some output of the external would also help me improving the help patch - if necessary. cheers martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-dev] ATTENTION to all pd-list and pd-dev users!
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: If you have any mails that timed out after 1 or 2 days, you should re-send them, and now is the time! Note that it says Permanent failure in that case, and not Temporary failure (The latter of which means: it's still on auto-retry) i would say the time is now if and only if you already received a permanent failure. if you have not, then i would wait for the mail to be re-sent automatically. i know that you do not claim anything else, however it seems to be not very clear. vfmdsr IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Finding $0 and dealing with it in messages
--- On Mon, 11/16/09, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] Finding $0 and dealing with it in messages To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de, Phil Stone pkst...@ucdavis.edu, pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 8:59 PM On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Mon, 11/16/09, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: It doesn't work for those selectors: bang symbol list Why do you say it doesn't work for list? because it doesn't. Well, if you send the message list 7 to [symbol] it will output symbol list, when, according to all_about_data_types.pd, it ought to output symbol float. Other than this, are there instances where [symbol] doesn't work correctly with lists? As far as I can tell you just need [route bang symbol], two message boxes, and a [symbol] object. There's no need to protect the message boxes because whatever is coming out of inlet 0 and 1 of [route] is either a bang or a symbol, both of which will trigger the msg box's output without changing its content. You are right, two [b] are extraneous. You still need [b] to protect msgbox «symbol list» from [route list]. In light of what I wrote above, you'd actually need [route bang symbol float] to correctly convert lists with one float element. -Jonathan _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] PD and equal loudness: any ideas on approaching good live sound?
Howdy, I have some questions regarding methods to get optimal live sound in pd. Using my electric guitar, I keep running into situations where the mix and loudness levels vary widely form place to place and system to system. I am used to this happening with regular analog gear, but not with the rather annoying difficulties it adds in pd. I run into feedback problems with the guitar or the mic, the mix sounds weak, etc. I just cannot seem to get a good, consistent live sound when using the electric and a live mic .. *sigh*. So my questions are: What do you guys do for your live set? Do you do some sort of EQ/compression on the final stage before going out the the dac~? I found this post about the ears response to certain frequencies at different sound pressure levels http://gabesrocklog.blogspot.com/2009/08/eq-or-how-to-turn-down-suck-knob.html. Should I try using these curves on an eq going out? Does anyone know how commercial software deals with this? It seems to me that Logic, Live, etc must have some sort of input/output compensation that I would need to replicate in order to have a more uniform sound across the board? Is this just subjective and /or not possible? Thanks for any ideas ... Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] adding Jpeg/Bitmap/tga backgrounds
Hello I would like to add images in jpeg/tga format to patches as backgrounds for pd patches Is this possible? I know canvas will give nice colors, but I do not think I have seen image backgrounds yet Is there an external for this? pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] robotcowboy on the ars facade: pd controls a building
That's very cool, I want one. From: danomat...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:59:44 +0100 To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] robotcowboy on the ars facade: pd controls a building I finally got around to putting a video together form my short show on the ars facade during the festival this year: http://vimeo.com/7741821 Dan Wilcoxdanomatika.comrobotcowboy.com _ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] robotcowboy on the ars facade: pd controls a building
A robotcowboy or an Ars Electronica? ;) Great work Dan! .b. Andrew Faraday wrote: That's very cool, I want one. From: danomat...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:59:44 +0100 To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] robotcowboy on the ars facade: pd controls a building I finally got around to putting a video together form my short show on the ars facade during the festival this year: http://vimeo.com/7741821 Dan Wilcox danomatika.com http://danomatika.com robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Finding $0 and dealing with it in messages
Hallo, Jonathan Wilkes hat gesagt: // Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Well, if you send the message list 7 to [symbol] it will output symbol list, when, according to all_about_data_types.pd, it ought to output symbol float. Here (Pd version 0.42.4) [symbol], the object box, outputs symbol list. However [symbol\, the graphical atom, shows float. Probably some artifact of automatic converson going on behind our backs. A third possibility would be to bail out with an error No message for list/float. I would prefer this behaviour. It's consistent with the behaviour of [float] receiving a list abc message. Regarding all_about_data_types.pd: Personally I wouldn't trust this patch. Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD and equal loudness: any ideas on approaching good live sound?
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Dan Wilcox wrote: What do you guys do for your live set? Do you do some sort of EQ/compression on the final stage before going out the the dac~? A little bit of chaos theory... suppose you apply a filter on sound, and you take into account the net gain of the feedback, and you call all of it as f(x). What can you expect f(f(x)) to be? f(f(f(x))) ? f(f(f(f(x ? and so on. This tells you what happens with feedback. If you have a compressor that systematically takes whatever there is and divides the dB by any fraction above 1 (e.g. by 1.1 such that -55 dB becomes -50 dB), then in «silence» it will pick up any tiny noise at the smallest noninfinite dB and will divide its dB by 1.1 many times until it becomes extremely loud. That's unstable feedback. (Stable feedback is when the dB of the echo is going down, but this fading out could be at any speed, even if it's slow.) Therefore you can't add a plain compressor without aggravating any existing feedback, however tiny it is. You need to use something even more nonlinear than that, by adding something like a noisegate component. (nonlinear means anything not made by adding proportional parts). I found this post about the ears response to certain frequencies at different sound pressure levels http://gabesrocklog.blogspot.com/2009/08/eq-or-how-to-turn-down-suck-knob.html. Should I try using these curves on an eq going out? Those show you what's the gain in the ear. That doesn't tell you about the gain in your speakers, the gain in your amplifier, nor the gain due to reflection (vs absorption) on walls. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] problem with MIDI (linux)
Hi, I have a problem with pd 0.41.4 on Linux Mandriva 2010. I run JACK (qjackctl from terminal as root), and then I open pd. If in media I set: ALSA, ALSA-MIDI, in testtone audio is ok, MIDI is mute! If in media I set jack, audio and midi in testtone are mute. (In jack connections, pure data is connect with snd_emu10k1...) My sound card use snd_emu10k1 driver. I can listen correctly MIDI with Timidity...,sound from cd or YT..) sound card is ok) Any suggestions? thanks _ Carica e scarica in un clic. Fino a 25 GB su SkyDrive http://www.windowslive.it/skyDrive.aspx___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] FW: problem with MIDI (linux)
From: c...@hotmail.it To: noisesm...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [PD] problem with MIDI (linux) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:54:42 +0100 When you send MIDI into pd, what do you expect to happen? MIDI coming into pd will not make any sound, it will provide messages to control things that make sound, if you build them or load them. In testtone there is a midi test...a little patch.. ;) bye, cb Screensaver, sfondi e scene: scarica i gadget di Messenger _ Fatti riconoscere con i biglietti da visita di Messenger http://www.messenger.it/bigliettiVisita.aspx___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] robotcowboy on the ars facade: pd controls a building
A building who's lighting I can control via PD. I'll be honest, I'm not likely to own any kind of building any time soon. Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:49:00 -0800 From: b...@ekran.org To: jbtur...@hotmail.com CC: danomat...@gmail.com; pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] robotcowboy on the ars facade: pd controls a building A robotcowboy or an Ars Electronica? ;) Great work Dan! .b. Andrew Faraday wrote: That's very cool, I want one. From: danomat...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:59:44 +0100 To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] robotcowboy on the ars facade: pd controls a building I finally got around to putting a video together form my short show on the ars facade during the festival this year: http://vimeo.com/7741821 Dan Wilcox danomatika.com http://danomatika.com robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] adding Jpeg/Bitmap/tga backgrounds
[image] does it, its in ggee. I think there are some others too. .hc On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:03 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Hello I would like to add images in jpeg/tga format to patches as backgrounds for pd patches Is this possible? I know canvas will give nice colors, but I do not think I have seen image backgrounds yet Is there an external for this? pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free software means someone else controls that, and to some extent controls you. - Richard M. Stallman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Finding $0 and dealing with it in messages
On Nov 24, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Jonathan Wilkes hat gesagt: // Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Well, if you send the message list 7 to [symbol] it will output symbol list, when, according to all_about_data_types.pd, it ought to output symbol float. Here (Pd version 0.42.4) [symbol], the object box, outputs symbol list. However [symbol\, the graphical atom, shows float. Probably some artifact of automatic converson going on behind our backs. A third possibility would be to bail out with an error No message for list/float. I would prefer this behaviour. It's consistent with the behaviour of [float] receiving a list abc message. Regarding all_about_data_types.pd: Personally I wouldn't trust this patch. Its a patch with examples, if you don't trust the examples, then that seems to mean you don't trust Pd ;) .hc kill your television ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Finding $0 and dealing with it in messages
On Nov 22, 2009, at 1:34 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Mon, 11/16/09, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] Finding $0 and dealing with it in messages To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de, Phil Stone pkst...@ucdavis.edu , pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 8:59 PM On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Mon, 11/16/09, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: It doesn't work for those selectors: bang symbol list Why do you say it doesn't work for list? because it doesn't. Well, if you send the message list 7 to [symbol] it will output symbol list, when, according to all_about_data_types.pd, it ought to output symbol float. Other than this, are there instances where [symbol] doesn't work correctly with lists? I think there are. Anytime I find something like that, I make an example patch and add it to SVN. I encourage others to add to this collection since they are quite helpful in thinking about how we can fix things to make them work easier: https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/doc/additional/messageoddness .hc As far as I can tell you just need [route bang symbol], two message boxes, and a [symbol] object. There's no need to protect the message boxes because whatever is coming out of inlet 0 and 1 of [route] is either a bang or a symbol, both of which will trigger the msg box's output without changing its content. You are right, two [b] are extraneous. You still need [b] to protect msgbox «symbol list» from [route list]. In light of what I wrote above, you'd actually need [route bang symbol float] to correctly convert lists with one float element. -Jonathan _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] adding Jpeg/Bitmap/tga backgrounds
Pagano, Patrick wrote: I would like to add images in jpeg/tga format to patches as backgrounds for pd patches Is this possible? I know canvas will give nice colors, but I do not think I have seen image backgrounds yet I think someone (I forgot who) wrote an image to pd patch as lots of cnv objects converter once. Is there an external for this? There's one in ggee, but: pure-data/externals/ggee/gui/image-help.pd says [image] works with .gif, .ppm, and .pgm image formats only. Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem with MIDI (linux)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:08:49 -0800 From: noisesm...@gmail.com To: c...@hotmail.it Subject: Re: [PD] problem with MIDI (linux) chi ball wrote: When you send MIDI into pd, what do you expect to happen? MIDI coming into pd will not make any sound, it will provide messages to control things that make sound, if you build them or load them. In testtone there is a midi test...a little patch.. ;) I am familiar with the testtone patch, but the word 'mute' threw me off, because MIDI does not cause sound to occur in the testtone patch. Which MIDI api are you using? I don't know.. Excuse me for my english..mute means that if I make a simple patch to produce a midi note with a metro.. (I'm familiar with algorithmic music in pd, but in windows..) I can't listen anything. _ Carica e scarica in un clic. Fino a 25 GB su SkyDrive http://www.windowslive.it/skyDrive.aspx___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem with MIDI (linux)
chi ball wrote: When you send MIDI into pd, what do you expect to happen? MIDI coming into pd will not make any sound, it will provide messages to control things that make sound, if you build them or load them. In testtone there is a midi test...a little patch.. ;) I am familiar with the testtone patch, but the word 'mute' threw me off, because MIDI does not cause sound to occur in the testtone patch. Which MIDI api are you using? I don't know.. Excuse me for my english..mute means that if I make a simple patch to produce a midi note with a metro.. (I'm familiar with algorithmic music in pd, but in windows..) I can't listen anything. Audio and MIDI should be separate here. I recommend using jack, and for that to work you need jack running as the same user that is running pd, and make sure that the pd output is connected to your sound card (this is easy to do with qjackctl). See if other programs can make sound with jack. For AlSA sound, make sure that no other program is hogging the sound card and preventing pd from using it. For MIDI, use ALSA MIDI, and you can manage MIDI connections also in qjackctl, under the connections-alsa tab. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pure Data and Processing
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Alvaro alv...@berlin.de wrote: Hi I've been working on this OSC protocol specially targeted at using Processing for the UI and Puredata for the sound generation. It is based on work by Fabian Ehrentraud. Here it is: http://gombology.net/ There are some examples and documentation, a processing library, Javadoc documentation for the Java/Processing API and also some known problems to discuss. best, Alvaro Thanks, i'll take a look. Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
