Re: [PD] Puredata on maemo

2010-02-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner 


Hey Umberto,

welcome!  You can run Pd on Maemo 4.1 so it should work on Maemo 5.   
We're working on updating the mobile version of Pd, so perhaps a Maemo  
5 build will come out of that.  Here's the current release:


http://pd-anywhere.sourceforge.net/release/maemo/

.hc

On Feb 15, 2010, at 3:07 AM, Umberto wrote:

Hi, im new in the list , i would like to know if its possible to run  
pd linux mobile devices like maemo 5 or android ,do anybody have  
tried that , if not how difficult would it be?


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Re: [PD] troubles with multichannel output

2010-02-17 Thread Jaime Oliver 
Hey Ricardo,

have you tried any of these cards in your old system?
Are you already in Lima?

I'm pretty sure I can find you a pci soundcard i know for sure works
fine in fedora if things are not working out...

best,

J

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:30 PM, palmieri, ricardo
 wrote:
> hi people.
>
> im working in an installation using 4 audio+video channels, running in
> a quadcore, 2 nvidia9600gt, 4gbram, under ubuntu 9.10 and pd 0.43.
>
> i built this installation last november in argentina. now, we bought a
> complete new setup (with some small differences) to replicate the work
> in a new museum in lima-peru.
>
> my trouble is: in the last installation, i used a 7.1 onboard
> audiocard, with an Intel chipset. using an stupid "alsa force-reload",
> i had all the channels opened in PD 0.41 (in ubuntu 9.10) working
> great.
>
> now i bought a new motherboard, without a 7.1 channels, and i've tried
> to use severals pci audioboard - a 4.1 crystal clear chipset, a 5.1
> Via VT1724, and a m-audio 2496 4x4. all of then, in a pci slot.
>
> ok, finally my trouble: i can get all channels working separated in
> pd, but, all the time i hear a kind of "metallic" sound instead my
> original sound. if i change back to a normal stereo, i can hear the
> audio normally.
>
> i made all the test of 5.1, 4.1 and 3.1. i changed to Pd 0.41, 0.42
> and 0.43. in all cases, i have the same trouble.
> i made some tests also, using vlc and speaker-test, and the
> multichannel looks working fine ou of pd.
>
> somebody know how to solve this? i will have my opening in the next 24
> feb, and would be amazing to have the 4 audio channels working with my
> 4 video channels (running in pdp+gem)
>
> thanks a lot
>
> palm
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] triggering audio

2010-02-17 Thread Martin Peach 
Maybe try the attached patch and look up the help for the objects in it 
to see what they can do.


Martin

Josh Lawrence wrote:

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Derek Holzer  wrote:

Hi Josh,

looks like you haven't gotten to the later AUDIO TUTORIALS chapters:


if I can beg the forgiveness of the list and make another post:

I've been reading over the answers presented to me and realize that I
completely failed at asking my question.  let me give it another try,
this time I'll tell you what I want to do in terms that make more
sense to me:

first, I do not want to load samples or sound files of any kind (yet).
 this is where I messed up when I said "triggering audio."

let's say I have an osc~ object, and I want to turn it on and off in a
rhythmic fashion, say every quarter note, as if I were playing quarter
notes on my midi keyboard.  what objects/methods do I need to learn
about to do that?  I'm guess I need to look in the control section,
but all of the examples don't actually play anything, they are just
examples.  I really need to see *how* to use them (I have trouble
"connecting the dots" as it were).

I have many more questions, but I'll stop there and digest whatever comes at me.

thank you again, and sorry for messing up the first time!





simple_repeated_tone.pd
Description: application/puredata
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Re: [PD] triggering audio

2010-02-17 Thread Josh Lawrence 
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Derek Holzer  wrote:
> Hi Josh,
>
> looks like you haven't gotten to the later AUDIO TUTORIALS chapters:

if I can beg the forgiveness of the list and make another post:

I've been reading over the answers presented to me and realize that I
completely failed at asking my question.  let me give it another try,
this time I'll tell you what I want to do in terms that make more
sense to me:

first, I do not want to load samples or sound files of any kind (yet).
 this is where I messed up when I said "triggering audio."

let's say I have an osc~ object, and I want to turn it on and off in a
rhythmic fashion, say every quarter note, as if I were playing quarter
notes on my midi keyboard.  what objects/methods do I need to learn
about to do that?  I'm guess I need to look in the control section,
but all of the examples don't actually play anything, they are just
examples.  I really need to see *how* to use them (I have trouble
"connecting the dots" as it were).

I have many more questions, but I'll stop there and digest whatever comes at me.

thank you again, and sorry for messing up the first time!

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[PD] troubles with multichannel output

2010-02-17 Thread palmieri, ricardo 
hi people.

im working in an installation using 4 audio+video channels, running in
a quadcore, 2 nvidia9600gt, 4gbram, under ubuntu 9.10 and pd 0.43.

i built this installation last november in argentina. now, we bought a
complete new setup (with some small differences) to replicate the work
in a new museum in lima-peru.

my trouble is: in the last installation, i used a 7.1 onboard
audiocard, with an Intel chipset. using an stupid "alsa force-reload",
i had all the channels opened in PD 0.41 (in ubuntu 9.10) working
great.

now i bought a new motherboard, without a 7.1 channels, and i've tried
to use severals pci audioboard - a 4.1 crystal clear chipset, a 5.1
Via VT1724, and a m-audio 2496 4x4. all of then, in a pci slot.

ok, finally my trouble: i can get all channels working separated in
pd, but, all the time i hear a kind of "metallic" sound instead my
original sound. if i change back to a normal stereo, i can hear the
audio normally.

i made all the test of 5.1, 4.1 and 3.1. i changed to Pd 0.41, 0.42
and 0.43. in all cases, i have the same trouble.
i made some tests also, using vlc and speaker-test, and the
multichannel looks working fine ou of pd.

somebody know how to solve this? i will have my opening in the next 24
feb, and would be amazing to have the 4 audio channels working with my
4 video channels (running in pdp+gem)

thanks a lot

palm



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Re: [PD] line~ and vline~ right inlets

2010-02-17 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette 

Jonathan Wilkes escribió:
you could put a [pack] before the object or use  
message boxes as in the help patch, but the same could be said about 
virtually any object in Pd


Except that most objects "retain" the last value received from the right 
inlets while [line~] and [vline~] "forget" it after receiving a number 
in the hot inlet (i.e. they "consume" it).


Thank you for the clarifications,
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [reminder]Pure Data Workshop + FLOSS Manuals Book Sprint next week

2010-02-17 Thread Derek Holzer 

Both ;-)

D.

Jeffrey Concepcion wrote:
do you plan ob changing anything from the current floss manual? or add 
to it?


On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Derek Holzer > wrote:


Pure Data Workshop + FLOSS Manuals Book Sprint
Tusday 23 – Friday 26 February 2010, 17.00-22.00 [GMT +1]
NK Elsenstr. 52 2HH 2 Etage 12059 Berlin, Germany
Contact Derek Holzer: derek AT THE DOMAIN umatic.nl 
(Please keep my mobile number for building access): +49(0)176 2812 5845
Or contribute online!
http://en.flossmanuals.net/puredata
irc.freenode.net  #flossmanuals

Pure Data (or Pd) is a free + open source, real-time graphical
programming environment for audio, video, and graphical processing.
Because all of these types of media are handled as data in the
program, many fascinating opportunities for cross-synthesis between
them exist. Pd is commonly used for live music performance,
VeeJaying, sound effects composition, interfacing with sensors,
cameras and robots or even interacting with websites.

A book sprint brings together a group of writers, editors and
artists to produce a published book within several days. This sprint
will combine a workshop within it, where new users will learn to
create basic patches in Pd, documenting them along the way for the
FLOSS Manual. This is an exciting opportunity both to acquire new
skills as well as share them with others in the form of a book!

This sprint is a long-distance collaboration between FLOSS Manuals,
the Berlin Pure Data users group and ITP/Tisch School of the Arts,
New York.

Please bring your own laptop with Pure Data Extended installed. The
workshop is free, with the expectation that participants will
contribute to the FLOSS Manual.

http://puredata.info/community/organization/pd-berlin/pd-berlin-users-group
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [reminder]Pure Data Workshop + FLOSS Manuals Book Sprint next week

2010-02-17 Thread Jeffrey Concepcion 
do you plan ob changing anything from the current floss manual? or add to
it?

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Derek Holzer  wrote:

> Pure Data Workshop + FLOSS Manuals Book Sprint
> Tusday 23 – Friday 26 February 2010, 17.00-22.00 [GMT +1]
> NK Elsenstr. 52 2HH 2 Etage 12059 Berlin, Germany
> Contact Derek Holzer: derek AT THE DOMAIN umatic.nl
> (Please keep my mobile number for building access): +49(0)176 2812 5845
> Or contribute online!
> http://en.flossmanuals.net/puredata
> irc.freenode.net #flossmanuals
>
> Pure Data (or Pd) is a free + open source, real-time graphical programming
> environment for audio, video, and graphical processing. Because all of these
> types of media are handled as data in the program, many fascinating
> opportunities for cross-synthesis between them exist. Pd is commonly used
> for live music performance, VeeJaying, sound effects composition,
> interfacing with sensors, cameras and robots or even interacting with
> websites.
>
> A book sprint brings together a group of writers, editors and artists to
> produce a published book within several days. This sprint will combine a
> workshop within it, where new users will learn to create basic patches in
> Pd, documenting them along the way for the FLOSS Manual. This is an exciting
> opportunity both to acquire new skills as well as share them with others in
> the form of a book!
>
> This sprint is a long-distance collaboration between FLOSS Manuals, the
> Berlin Pure Data users group and ITP/Tisch School of the Arts, New York.
>
> Please bring your own laptop with Pure Data Extended installed. The
> workshop is free, with the expectation that participants will contribute to
> the FLOSS Manual.
>
> http://puredata.info/community/organization/pd-berlin/pd-berlin-users-group
> http://www.nkprojekt.de/
>
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Re: [PD] triggering audio

2010-02-17 Thread Andrew Faraday 

Hey, that's how you learn, and you learn better if you chase parts of PD that 
interest you more. The first few parts of the help files talk about data 
structures etc... which confuse the hell out of me, don't use 'em, don't plan 
to. I'd say if something interests you, go for it, if you don't understand it 
take a step back. 
Whatever you do, don't spend too long listening to a pure sine tone.
> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:02:06 -0600
> From: hardbop...@gmail.com
> To: de...@umatic.nl
> CC: PD-list@iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] triggering audio
> 
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Derek Holzer  wrote:
> > Hi Josh,
> >
> > looks like you haven't gotten to the later AUDIO TUTORIALS chapters:
> 
> ha, you caught me!  :)  you're right, I'm trying to skip ahead.  I'm a
> very poor student for this reason!
> 
> thanks all for the useful replies - pd is a vast (and somewhat
> confusing) world, and I need all the help I can get.
> 
> -- 
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> http://www.hardbop200.com
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Re: [PD] line~ and vline~ right inlets

2010-02-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes 
Hi Matteo,
 I think it's just an oversight.  The middle inlet of [vline~], for 
example, is used in the [sampvoice] abstraction of audio tutorial 
D11.sampler.poly.pd so that a quartic envelope may be generated. The extra 
inlets are used in many other places as well.  I guess the extra inlets 
are not necessary-- you could put a [pack] before the object or use  
message boxes as in the help patch, but the same could be said about 
virtually any object in Pd, and I don't think extra inlets are in danger 
of being deprecated.

-Jonathan 

--- On Wed, 2/17/10, Matteo Sisti Sette  wrote:

> From: Matteo Sisti Sette 
> Subject: [PD] line~ and vline~ right inlets
> To: "PD list" 
> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 11:37 PM
> Hi,
> 
> The behaviour of the second inlet of line~, and of the
> second and third inlet of vline~, are not documented in the
> help patches. Only the "all parameters in one message to the
> left inlet" way of working is described in the help
> patches.
> The behaviour of the other two inlets is not entirely
> obvious: one can easily guess that they are used to set the
> ramp time and (for vline) the delay; however the fact they
> "forget" the value after the first message sent to the hot
> inlet is in contrast with the behaviour of most built-in
> objects and hence is not totally obvious.
> 
> I wonder whether they are deliberately left undocumented to
> "discourage" their use, with the idea of removing them in
> the future...?
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] triggering audio

2010-02-17 Thread Josh Lawrence 
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Derek Holzer  wrote:
> Hi Josh,
>
> looks like you haven't gotten to the later AUDIO TUTORIALS chapters:

ha, you caught me!  :)  you're right, I'm trying to skip ahead.  I'm a
very poor student for this reason!

thanks all for the useful replies - pd is a vast (and somewhat
confusing) world, and I need all the help I can get.

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Re: [PD] install iemguts in pd 0.4.14

2010-02-17 Thread András Murányi 
Hello Javier,

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Javier Tempesta  wrote:

> hello pd list,
>  I have pd 0.4.14 extended running on ubuntu 9.10


The latest version of pd-extended is 0.42.5.
get it from http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/


> and I want to install the iemguts
> https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/iemguts/
>

iemguts is part of pd-extended 0.42.5.


> when I try to download the folder iemguts with my browser from the above
> adress I get an archive extension iemguts_.htm
>

an .htm is no doubt an .html which is a web page.
downloading works with the svn command:
"svn checkout
https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/iemguts/
"


> I'm a new user of linux, which steps must I do in order to install the pd
> guts?
> I already try to follow the "Readme" but I don't understand what I need to
> put after the  " cd src/"
>
> installation::
> --
> #1> cd src/
> #2> make
> #3> make install
>
> thank u all
>
>
These commands are meant to build and install the software defined in the
Makefile in that src directory, provided that you have all the source
dependecies installed.
If you are new to Linux, better go with an nightly autobuild if available
for your distribution, or get another precompiled binary from the
puredata.info/downloads page. Pd-extended is not always easy to build as it
is a rather complex system.

Andras
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[PD] line~ and vline~ right inlets

2010-02-17 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette 

Hi,

The behaviour of the second inlet of line~, and of the second and third 
inlet of vline~, are not documented in the help patches. Only the "all 
parameters in one message to the left inlet" way of working is described 
in the help patches.
The behaviour of the other two inlets is not entirely obvious: one can 
easily guess that they are used to set the ramp time and (for vline) the 
delay; however the fact they "forget" the value after the first message 
sent to the hot inlet is in contrast with the behaviour of most built-in 
objects and hence is not totally obvious.


I wonder whether they are deliberately left undocumented to "discourage" 
their use, with the idea of removing them in the future...?



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[PD] install iemguts in pd 0.4.14

2010-02-17 Thread Javier Tempesta 
hello pd list,
 I have pd 0.4.14 extended running on ubuntu 9.10 and I want to install the
iemguts
https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/iemguts/
when I try to download the folder iemguts with my browser from the above
adress I get an archive extension iemguts_.htm
I'm a new user of linux, which steps must I do in order to install the pd
guts?
I already try to follow the "Readme" but I don't understand what I need to
put after the  " cd src/"

installation::
--
#1> cd src/
#2> make
#3> make install

thank u all
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Re: [PD] respawn PD with gui in Debian

2010-02-17 Thread Bart Koppe 

Ok, solved!

In the end I did the following (or one way to build a kiosk pd):

I'm running a fresh install of Debian Lenny, I now disabled gdm.
update-rc.d -f gdm remove

Then I changed (thanks to the debian forums) the
1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
entry in /etc/inittab to:
1:2345:respawn:/sbin/rungetty tty1 --autologin myusername
and installed rungetty.
Then put the following at the top in ~/.bash_profile

if [ -z "$DISPLAY" ] && [ $(tty) == /dev/tty1 ]; then
while [ 1 == 1 ]
do
startx
sleep 10
done
fi

And ran init q, which made me happy.. :)


Then I edited my .xinitrc to:

#!/bin/sh
/home/abortx/./sw-daemon.sh &
sleep 4
/home/abortx/./pd-daemon.sh &
exec gnome-session

and all works. I only have to think about why using the standard gnome 
window manager ;)


Actually pd does crash sometimes. I have one script sending live mjpeg 
streams to vloopback (dev/video0). pdp_v4l seems to be the only object 
that can read virtual loopback devices.. This I send again to GEM. Then 
I also change the streams going to /dev/video0, so I don't make live 
easy for pd ;)


Thanks all for your help, greatly appreciated!

Bart

On 02/17/2010 06:09 PM, B. Bogart wrote:

Hey Bart,

When the script running in xsession exits, it will restart X, so if 
you have autologin, and PD crashing does cause an exit, then it will 
restart automatically when it crashes. Note I don't find PD doing that 
on linux very often...


Also if PD stalls without exiting you can get the gallery staff to 
just "control-alt-backspace" to restart the patch without restarting 
the computer.


.b.

Bart Koppe wrote:

Hi Ben,

I would like the script to be respawnd, in the rare case the script 
might crash. Afaik putting it in .xsessions only cares of starting 
the script, right?


Chrs,
bart


On 02/17/2010 04:35 AM, B. Bogart wrote:

Hey Bart,

Put the PD startup stuff in your ~/.xsession, and configure your 
display manager to use xsession. (eg chosee 'Xclient script' in GDM)


.b.
Bart Koppe wrote:

Hi,

I use PD-extended in Debian Lenny, this for a small 
media-installation.
After the pc boots and logged into X, i would like pd (with gui) to 
start automatically.
I made the script below and wanted to use that in /etc/inittab. It 
seems to start as root and does not show a gui either.


The script itself works perfectly ok when I run it myself.
How can I configure inittab correctly so it runs as user instead of 
root, and shows the gui to?



My current inittab entry [to say: I don't know anything about 
inittab (blush) ]

TY:23:respawn:/home/abortx/pd-daemon.sh

the script (pd-daemon.sh)
#!/bin/sh
RUNNING=
export DISPLAY=:0.0
pd -open /home/abortx/pd/pdp-gem-bridge-3.pd &
while true; do
RUNNING=`pidof pd`
if [ -z $RUNNING ]; then
pd -open /home/abortx/pd/pdp-gem-bridge-3.pd &
fi
sleep 10
done

Thanks!

Bart

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Re: [PD] Install pd-extended on Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 i686

2010-02-17 Thread Ben Baker-Smith 
Problem solved!

The final trick was to install gcc-snapshot using "sudo apt-get
gcc-snapshot" rather than through getlibs.

Thanks for all your help Andras.

-Ben

2010/2/17 András Murányi :
>
>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Sorry, there was a typo in my initial message, it should say "there
>> >>> >> is
>> >>> >> no i686 package available".
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> When I tried to install the Jaunty package I got a "wrong kernel
>> >>> >> type"
>> >>> >> error. All the packages seem to be for i386 and lpia, while my
>> >>> >> machine
>> >>> >> is running i686. The only mention of an i686 version that I have
>> >>> >> found
>> >>> >> is for Karmic in the 02-10-10 nightly build (and it seems rather
>> >>> >> small
>> >>> >> at 5.1M).
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> When I tried adding adding to sources.list and installing via
>> >>> >> apt-get
>> >>> >> I received the following error:
>> >>> >> "Failed to fetch
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> http://apt.puredata.info/releases/dists/jaunty/main/binary-amd64/Packages
>> >>> >> 404 Not Found"
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Anyway, I ended up installing pd vanilla, gem, and zexy seperately
>> >>> >> and
>> >>> >> adding the appropriate paths in the file > startup menu.
>> >>> >>  Everything
>> >>> >> is working just fine now.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> -Ben
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Hello Ben,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I am on amd64 too, and my best recommendation is that you use the
>> >>> > i386
>> >>> > version. At the moment it is just faster and more stable than 64-bit
>> >>> > builds.
>> >>> > To set up an i386 package on your 64-bit Jaunty and satisfy all the
>> >>> > 32-bit
>> >>> > dependecies you'll most likely want to use getlibs:
>> >>> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks Andras, that sounds like just what I need.
>> >>> I'll give it a shot this weekend after I fix a botched dist-upgrade.
>> >>>
>> >>> -Ben
>> >>
>> >> I just noticed there are more specifics at
>> >> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/64BitLinux/ under "Method 2"
>> >> (...you didn't mistakenly upgrade to Karmic did u? ;o) My girlfriend
>> >> did
>> >> that on her laptop and err... not so good! Been told however that it is
>> >> less
>> >> bad with the RT kernel -  a thing missing from Jaunty.)
>> >> Andras
>> >>
>> >
>> > In fact.. that's exactly what happened (dist-upgrade from Jaunty to
>> > Karmic). The sad thing is that this is the second machine I've tried
>> > the upgrade on, and the second to fail. I was prepared this time,
>> > backed everything up prior to the attempt, so it's more of an
>> > annoyance than anything.
>> >
>> > -Ben
>> >
>>
>> Ok, so I am now attempting to install pd-extended on a fresh 64-bit
>> 9.10 Karmic Ubuntu desktop. The "Method 2" instructions on
>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/64BitLinux/ seem to work fine
>> until I have to install libgomp.so.l
>>
>> It seems to install using "sudo getlibs -l libgomp.so.l" just like all
>> the ones before it, but then when I open pd-extended I still receive
>> the following error:
>>
>> /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_linux: libgomp.so.l: cannot open shared
>> object file: No such file or directory
>> Gem: can't load library
>>
>> Gem appears to be the only library that won't load, unfortunately it
>> is the one I care the most about.
>>
>> -Ben
>
> Hmm. My best bet is that the whole (i386) package needs to be installed,
> which is called libgomp1. The is an util called apt-file which helps you
> find which package contains a specific file - not sure this solves the
> problem, though.
> Also, getlibs seems to always do the "install? Y/n?" even when it doesn't
> install anything at the end.
>
> Andras
>

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[PD] MusicumMachina

2010-02-17 Thread JKP 

An Machine Sound Generator for Pure Data


Made with Pd version 0.41.4-extended

--- DOWNLOAD ---

The Patches
http://jkp.antisocial.be/musique/JKP-MusicumMachina.zip

The Sound ( 1.5 Go )
http://jkp.antisocial.be/musique/JKP-audio.zip

--- INSTALL ---

Unpack the zip file called JKP-musicummachina.zip into your pure data 
directory

./puredata/ ( patch files )
Unpack the zip file JKP-audio.zip into your previously selected directory
./puredata/JKP-MusicumMachina/ ( sound files )


--- PLAY ---

In order to listen the MusicumMachina project, open:
musicum-machina.pd

In order to play with the MusicumMachina project, open:
musicum-machina-live.pd

--- EXAMPLE ---

http://jkp.antisocial.be/musique/exemple.mp3

-- SCREENSHOT ---

http://jkp.antisocial.be/musicummachina.html

--- THANKS ---

to Miller Puckett
to Thomas Thierry
to Hardoff

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Re: [PD] respawn PD with gui in Debian

2010-02-17 Thread B. Bogart 

Hey Bart,

When the script running in xsession exits, it will restart X, so if you 
have autologin, and PD crashing does cause an exit, then it will restart 
automatically when it crashes. Note I don't find PD doing that on linux 
very often...


Also if PD stalls without exiting you can get the gallery staff to just 
"control-alt-backspace" to restart the patch without restarting the 
computer.


.b.

Bart Koppe wrote:

Hi Ben,

I would like the script to be respawnd, in the rare case the script 
might crash. Afaik putting it in .xsessions only cares of starting the 
script, right?


Chrs,
bart


On 02/17/2010 04:35 AM, B. Bogart wrote:

Hey Bart,

Put the PD startup stuff in your ~/.xsession, and configure your 
display manager to use xsession. (eg chosee 'Xclient script' in GDM)


.b.
Bart Koppe wrote:

Hi,

I use PD-extended in Debian Lenny, this for a small media-installation.
After the pc boots and logged into X, i would like pd (with gui) to 
start automatically.
I made the script below and wanted to use that in /etc/inittab. It 
seems to start as root and does not show a gui either.


The script itself works perfectly ok when I run it myself.
How can I configure inittab correctly so it runs as user instead of 
root, and shows the gui to?



My current inittab entry [to say: I don't know anything about inittab 
(blush) ]

TY:23:respawn:/home/abortx/pd-daemon.sh

the script (pd-daemon.sh)
#!/bin/sh
RUNNING=
export DISPLAY=:0.0
pd -open /home/abortx/pd/pdp-gem-bridge-3.pd &
while true; do
RUNNING=`pidof pd`
if [ -z $RUNNING ]; then
pd -open /home/abortx/pd/pdp-gem-bridge-3.pd &
fi
sleep 10
done

Thanks!

Bart

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Re: [PD] Install pd-extended on Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 i686

2010-02-17 Thread András Murányi 
>>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Sorry, there was a typo in my initial message, it should say "there
> is
> >>> >> no i686 package available".
> >>> >>
> >>> >> When I tried to install the Jaunty package I got a "wrong kernel
> type"
> >>> >> error. All the packages seem to be for i386 and lpia, while my
> machine
> >>> >> is running i686. The only mention of an i686 version that I have
> found
> >>> >> is for Karmic in the 02-10-10 nightly build (and it seems rather
> small
> >>> >> at 5.1M).
> >>> >>
> >>> >> When I tried adding adding to sources.list and installing via
> apt-get
> >>> >> I received the following error:
> >>> >> "Failed to fetch
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> http://apt.puredata.info/releases/dists/jaunty/main/binary-amd64/Packages
> >>> >> 404 Not Found"
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Anyway, I ended up installing pd vanilla, gem, and zexy seperately
> and
> >>> >> adding the appropriate paths in the file > startup menu.  Everything
> >>> >> is working just fine now.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -Ben
> >>> >
> >>> > Hello Ben,
> >>> >
> >>> > I am on amd64 too, and my best recommendation is that you use the
> i386
> >>> > version. At the moment it is just faster and more stable than 64-bit
> >>> > builds.
> >>> > To set up an i386 package on your 64-bit Jaunty and satisfy all the
> >>> > 32-bit
> >>> > dependecies you'll most likely want to use getlibs:
> >>> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Andras, that sounds like just what I need.
> >>> I'll give it a shot this weekend after I fix a botched dist-upgrade.
> >>>
> >>> -Ben
> >>
> >> I just noticed there are more specifics at
> >> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/64BitLinux/ under "Method 2"
> >> (...you didn't mistakenly upgrade to Karmic did u? ;o) My girlfriend did
> >> that on her laptop and err... not so good! Been told however that it is
> less
> >> bad with the RT kernel -  a thing missing from Jaunty.)
> >> Andras
> >>
> >
> > In fact.. that's exactly what happened (dist-upgrade from Jaunty to
> > Karmic). The sad thing is that this is the second machine I've tried
> > the upgrade on, and the second to fail. I was prepared this time,
> > backed everything up prior to the attempt, so it's more of an
> > annoyance than anything.
> >
> > -Ben
> >
>
> Ok, so I am now attempting to install pd-extended on a fresh 64-bit
> 9.10 Karmic Ubuntu desktop. The "Method 2" instructions on
> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/64BitLinux/ seem to work fine
> until I have to install libgomp.so.l
>
> It seems to install using "sudo getlibs -l libgomp.so.l" just like all
> the ones before it, but then when I open pd-extended I still receive
> the following error:
>
> /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_linux: libgomp.so.l: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
> Gem: can't load library
>
> Gem appears to be the only library that won't load, unfortunately it
> is the one I care the most about.
>
> -Ben
>

Hmm. My best bet is that the whole (i386) package needs to be installed,
which is called libgomp1. The is an util called apt-file which helps you
find which package contains a specific file - not sure this solves the
problem, though.
Also, getlibs seems to always do the "install? Y/n?" even when it doesn't
install anything at the end.

Andras
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-announce Digest, Vol 59, Issue 8

2010-02-17 Thread Medialab-Prado comunicacion 

Hi all,

Regarding the FLOSS Manuals Book Sprint in Berlin we would like to 
announce that there will also be a Translation Sprint of 2 FLOSS Manuals 
here in Medialab-Prado in Madrid from March 2 through 6. We we'll be 
collaboratively translating into Spanish *Inkscape Manual* and 
*Collaborative Futures*.

You can participate either coming to the meeting or online.

All the info here:
http://medialab-prado.es/article/encuentro_flossmanuals_en_espanol


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Pure Data Workshop + FLOSS Manuals Book Sprint
Tusday 23 ? Friday 26 February 2010, 17.00-22.00 [GMT +1]
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Contact Derek Holzer: derek AT THE DOMAIN umatic.nl
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Pure Data (or Pd) is a free + open source, real-time graphical 
programming environment for audio, video, and graphical processing. 
Because all of these types of media are handled as data in the program, 
many fascinating opportunities for cross-synthesis between them exist. 
Pd is commonly used for live music performance, VeeJaying, sound effects 
composition, interfacing with sensors, cameras and robots or even 
interacting with websites.


A book sprint brings together a group of writers, editors and artists to 
produce a published book within several days. This sprint will combine a 
workshop within it, where new users will learn to create basic patches 
in Pd, documenting them along the way for the FLOSS Manual. This is an 
exciting opportunity both to acquire new skills as well as share them 
with others in the form of a book!


This sprint is a long-distance collaboration between FLOSS Manuals, the 
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Please bring your own laptop with Pure Data Extended installed. The 
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Re: [PD] respawn PD with gui in Debian

2010-02-17 Thread Dan Wilcox 

On Ubuntu, I call my startup script in ~/.bash_profile and my shutdown/cleanup 
script in ~/.bash_logout.

Also, you will need to put ". .bashrc" at the beginning of the .bash_profile so 
all the default shell settings will be setup when it is called.

On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bart Koppe wrote:

> Hi Ben,
> 
> I would like the script to be respawnd, in the rare case the script might 
> crash. Afaik putting it in .xsessions only cares of starting the script, 
> right?
> 
> Chrs,
> bart
> 
> 
> On 02/17/2010 04:35 AM, B. Bogart wrote:
>> Hey Bart,
>> 
>> Put the PD startup stuff in your ~/.xsession, and configure your display 
>> manager to use xsession. (eg chosee 'Xclient script' in GDM)
>> 
>> .b.
>> Bart Koppe wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I use PD-extended in Debian Lenny, this for a small media-installation.
>>> After the pc boots and logged into X, i would like pd (with gui) to start 
>>> automatically.
>>> I made the script below and wanted to use that in /etc/inittab. It seems to 
>>> start as root and does not show a gui either.
>>> 
>>> The script itself works perfectly ok when I run it myself.
>>> How can I configure inittab correctly so it runs as user instead of root, 
>>> and shows the gui to?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My current inittab entry [to say: I don't know anything about inittab 
>>> (blush) ]
>>> TY:23:respawn:/home/abortx/pd-daemon.sh
>>> 
>>> the script (pd-daemon.sh)
>>> #!/bin/sh
>>> RUNNING=
>>> export DISPLAY=:0.0
>>> pd -open /home/abortx/pd/pdp-gem-bridge-3.pd &
>>> while true; do
>>> RUNNING=`pidof pd`
>>> if [ -z $RUNNING ]; then
>>> pd -open /home/abortx/pd/pdp-gem-bridge-3.pd &
>>> fi
>>> sleep 10
>>> done
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Bart
>>> 
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Re: [PD] respawn PD with gui in Debian

2010-02-17 Thread Justin Glenn Smith 
Or, you can use 'while true ' as the last command in your 
.xsession or .xinitrc

Oli44 wrote:
> helllo,
> 
> if your desktop supports the freedesktop spec  (LXDE, Gnome...), you
> just have to add a *.desktop entry in the ~/.config/autostart folder.
> 
> A .desktop looks like this (though you could refine/simplify it):
> 
> [Desktop Entry]
> Name=mypdlauncher
> Exec=/bin/sh /home/pduser/pd-daemon.sh
> Terminal=true
> 
> I read somewhere, although I've never tested it that you can add a @ in
> front of the .desktop entry to have restarted if it crashes.
> 
> 
> Bart Koppe wrote:
>> Hi Ben,
>>
>> I would like the script to be respawnd, in the rare case the script
>> might crash. Afaik putting it in .xsessions only cares of starting the
>> script, right?
>>
>> Chrs,
>> bart
>>
>>
>> On 02/17/2010 04:35 AM, B. Bogart wrote:
>>> Hey Bart,
>>>
>>> Put the PD startup stuff in your ~/.xsession, and configure your
>>> display manager to use xsession. (eg chosee 'Xclient script' in GDM)
>>>
>>> .b.
>>> Bart Koppe wrote:
 Hi,

 I use PD-extended in Debian Lenny, this for a small media-installation.
 After the pc boots and logged into X, i would like pd (with gui) to
 start automatically.
 I made the script below and wanted to use that in /etc/inittab. It
 seems to start as root and does not show a gui either.

 The script itself works perfectly ok when I run it myself.
 How can I configure inittab correctly so it runs as user instead of
 root, and shows the gui to?


 My current inittab entry [to say: I don't know anything about
 inittab (blush) ]
 TY:23:respawn:/home/abortx/pd-daemon.sh

 the script (pd-daemon.sh)
 #!/bin/sh
 RUNNING=
 export DISPLAY=:0.0
 pd -open /home/abortx/pd/pdp-gem-bridge-3.pd &
 while true; do
 RUNNING=`pidof pd`
 if [ -z $RUNNING ]; then
 pd -open /home/abortx/pd/pdp-gem-bridge-3.pd &
 fi
 sleep 10
 done

 Thanks!

 Bart

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Re: [PD] respawn PD with gui in Debian

2010-02-17 Thread Oli44 

helllo,

if your desktop supports the freedesktop spec  (LXDE, Gnome...), you 
just have to add a *.desktop entry in the ~/.config/autostart folder.


A .desktop looks like this (though you could refine/simplify it):

[Desktop Entry]
Name=mypdlauncher
Exec=/bin/sh /home/pduser/pd-daemon.sh
Terminal=true

I read somewhere, although I've never tested it that you can add a @ in 
front of the .desktop entry to have restarted if it crashes.



Bart Koppe wrote:

Hi Ben,

I would like the script to be respawnd, in the rare case the script 
might crash. Afaik putting it in .xsessions only cares of starting the 
script, right?


Chrs,
bart


On 02/17/2010 04:35 AM, B. Bogart wrote:

Hey Bart,

Put the PD startup stuff in your ~/.xsession, and configure your 
display manager to use xsession. (eg chosee 'Xclient script' in GDM)


.b.
Bart Koppe wrote:

Hi,

I use PD-extended in Debian Lenny, this for a small media-installation.
After the pc boots and logged into X, i would like pd (with gui) to 
start automatically.
I made the script below and wanted to use that in /etc/inittab. It 
seems to start as root and does not show a gui either.


The script itself works perfectly ok when I run it myself.
How can I configure inittab correctly so it runs as user instead of 
root, and shows the gui to?



My current inittab entry [to say: I don't know anything about 
inittab (blush) ]

TY:23:respawn:/home/abortx/pd-daemon.sh

the script (pd-daemon.sh)
#!/bin/sh
RUNNING=
export DISPLAY=:0.0
pd -open /home/abortx/pd/pdp-gem-bridge-3.pd &
while true; do
RUNNING=`pidof pd`
if [ -z $RUNNING ]; then
pd -open /home/abortx/pd/pdp-gem-bridge-3.pd &
fi
sleep 10
done

Thanks!

Bart

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Re: [PD] respawn PD with gui in Debian

2010-02-17 Thread Bart Koppe 

Hi Ben,

I would like the script to be respawnd, in the rare case the script 
might crash. Afaik putting it in .xsessions only cares of starting the 
script, right?


Chrs,
bart


On 02/17/2010 04:35 AM, B. Bogart wrote:

Hey Bart,

Put the PD startup stuff in your ~/.xsession, and configure your 
display manager to use xsession. (eg chosee 'Xclient script' in GDM)


.b.
Bart Koppe wrote:

Hi,

I use PD-extended in Debian Lenny, this for a small media-installation.
After the pc boots and logged into X, i would like pd (with gui) to 
start automatically.
I made the script below and wanted to use that in /etc/inittab. It 
seems to start as root and does not show a gui either.


The script itself works perfectly ok when I run it myself.
How can I configure inittab correctly so it runs as user instead of 
root, and shows the gui to?



My current inittab entry [to say: I don't know anything about inittab 
(blush) ]

TY:23:respawn:/home/abortx/pd-daemon.sh

the script (pd-daemon.sh)
#!/bin/sh
RUNNING=
export DISPLAY=:0.0
pd -open /home/abortx/pd/pdp-gem-bridge-3.pd &
while true; do
RUNNING=`pidof pd`
if [ -z $RUNNING ]; then
pd -open /home/abortx/pd/pdp-gem-bridge-3.pd &
fi
sleep 10
done

Thanks!

Bart

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