Re: [PD] List of GEM objects
On 2010-03-10 02:58, Ariane stolfi wrote: hi I've made this patch with all the objects I've found in the list of objects from the GEM manual, nice, but please remove gemorb gemtablet, as they are no longer part of Gem. neither is markEx. the manual should probably be updated... fgmasdr IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reson~ from max in pd
Hallo, Björn Lindig hat gesagt: // Björn Lindig wrote: a friend asked me, wether there is a object similar to the [fffb~] in max/msp (a fast fixed filter bank) in pd. I did not find it instantly so I started to build one after the formula posted in [reson~]s help in max: y[n] = gain * (x[n] - r * x[n-2]) + c1 * y[n-1] + c2 * y[n-2] I appended a patch, that I created after this formula. The Problem is, that I would love to klone the max-object, but at the moment I have only inlets for r, c1, c2 and gain. What I need is the math to calculate the values for r, c1, c2 and gain for given center frequency, Q/Bandwith, and gain. The equation above is the important base equation for many filters, but in practice it is pretty useless. The brains are in how to calculate the various parameters given more musical inputs like frequency and bandwith/resonance, and normalizing the output volume. Traditionally (i.e. since at least CSound times) what is called reson is a two-pole-two-zero (2nd order) resonating bandpass filter. In Pd an equivalent to equation above is a [biquad~] object or alternatively this: | [rzero~] | [rzero~] | [cpole~] | [cpole~] | with suitable transofrmations of the input parameters to get the pole/zero coefficients right. I started reading the chapters on time shifts and delays and filters in miller-puckettes book and the book of J. O. Smith. But to be honest, I did not yet understand much of what is writen there. So I thought, there might be someone arround here, who can give me a fast answer, or who can point me into the right direction. I think, JOS and MSP are already the right direction, another stop could be the book at www.dspguide.com If it is the best to try resonz and resonr (I'm on train building pd-extended, used vanilla before), I'll accept that. I believe, resonz is the same as reson~ in Max/MSP. All these resonX things differ only in how they normalize the filter for different center frequencies. resonr keeps the resonance gain constant, resonz normalizes the peak gain: http://www.dsprelated.com/dspbooks/filters/Peak_Gain_Versus_Resonance.html resonz~ and resonr~ can be build as abstractions, so there's no need to install externals just for them: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-12/067018.html These and some more Pd vanilla filters are also part of the rj library: http://trac.rjdj.me/browser/trunk/rjlib/rj Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem framebuffer question
hi, found the problem. i had to give a suitable |perspec( message to gemframebuffer so the whole texture would appear on the square. best erich On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 16:17 +0200, erich wrote: hello, i am having a problem with inserting gemframebuffer in the right way in the attached patch. as you can see i try to buffer the texture on the big rectangle and put it on a smaller one. the only way i could get a buffer image was to put it in parallel to the a-branch of |t b a| which seems odd to me. furthermore the produced texture is just showing a segment of the whole 1600 600. what am i doing wrong ? thank you for your help. best erich ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] image grid in GEM
Hi Ben, tried around.- Is [folderpanel] an object of Pd-extended ? Or did you mean [openpanel] ? fraenk Zitat von Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.com: You could use [folderpanel] to [folder_list] to [msgfile] and then read filenames from [msgfile] as you need them. See the attached example. -Ben Hi Ben, great work your patch.- - But do you think, that I could keep the images dynamic and take always new images ? The images would be always in the same folder, incremented by one: image 20, image 21, ... thanks ! fraenk B. Bogart schrieb: Hi Frank, Use rectangle, not pix_draw (its slow) If you can put images in a pix_buffer it'll be really fast. Here is a 3x3 grid of images in gem (with lots of extra complexity) http://www.ekran.org/pd/patches/gem-image-grid.tgz ..b.. Fr?nk Zimmer wrote: Hi, I did an image grid in Processing.- Every 10sec a routine is looking images in a folder and displays them in an image grid of 8x8 images. The Processing sketch does not run very stable, so I would like to know , if already somebody did try this in Pd.- Is there a more clever way, than using [pix_draw] and [translate] for this? thanks.- best, fraenk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [print]
Hi Matteo, here doesn't happen neither, I'm using the same Pd-ext version of yours, i.e. 0.42.5-extended-20100127 on Ubuntu Jaunty. Hmm, doesn't happen for me with Pd version 0.42.5-extended-20100224 .hc On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Jonathan wrote: Hello, I'm using Pd version 0.42.5-extended-20100217 and see that an implicit float message is made explicit (e.g., 1 becomes float 1) by the [print] object. Is the same behavior going to be done for implicit lists? I don't know the answer to your question, but this doesn't happen in Vanilla 0.42.5. Is this an _intentional_ change introduced in Extended? -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Good Morning Puredata
Hi all! I'm brankolo from Turin in Italy. I'm using Pure Data from two years ago, i'm not so expert but i LOVE it. I also working on ITALY Community of Pure Data to expand the use of this software, and to find solution together. I practice expecially in ArtWork-Apps connected to Arduino for sensors and motors. So, i hope to spend good time in this mailinglist, and I wish you have fun. Bye, see you soon. :) ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gridflow on windows
hello, in gridflow/doc/index.pd there a start for learning many objects Thank you for the hint. However, the point was that the [pddp_open] object (or abstraction?) used in the tutorial patch included in gridflow fails to create, so either the help patch relies on an object that is not part of Pd Extended and is not distributed with GridFlow, or there is something wrong with my installation... - Mail Original - De: pvallet publica...@free.fr ?: pd-list@iem.at Envoy?: Lundi 8 Mars 2010 19h43:20 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [PD] gridflow on windows Pddp is the PureData Documentation Project i'm not using it so i don't know much about it, but you can probably download a package from the net Greetings, p. Matteo Sisti Sette a ?crit : Oh sh##, I see it needs Pd Extented. I was trying it with Pd Vanilla. Maybe it would be a good idea to mention it in the installation readme and/or home page, or is it obvious? It seems it works for the moment. However, in the tutorial intro (gf_tutorial_intro.pd) there are a lot of [pddp_open] objects that cannot create. What is pddp_open? Where can I get it? thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works
Man, just change chip. Use the 168 or the 328. and stop complaining, or use google then. people told you what to do, now you should try it. this is open if you want to help document it, so please do. 2010/3/10 Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl Where do I find the matching Pd Firmata objects for the Firmata in Arduino 18 then? Maybe all of this could be a bit better documented? ;-) D. On 3/10/10 1:17 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The vesrion of Firmata included in Arduino 0018 is the best one, but the one in Pduino-0.5beta6 zip should be fine too. OldStandardFirmata == StandardFirmataV2_0 -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 96: Is the intonation correct? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] image grid in GEM
[folderpanel] is a pd-extended object. i believe it's a part of the Tof library. for some reason, i always have to add the Tof library manually (in the startup paths menu) even though it comes packaged with pd-extended. basically, it acts like [openpanel] but allows you to select a folder instead of a file. if you can't get it working you can just use a message with the full path to the folder in place of [folderpanel]. -ben On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:42 AM, f...@mur.at wrote: Hi Ben, tried around.- Is [folderpanel] an object of Pd-extended ? Or did you mean [openpanel] ? fraenk Zitat von Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.com: You could use [folderpanel] to [folder_list] to [msgfile] and then read filenames from [msgfile] as you need them. See the attached example. -Ben Hi Ben, great work your patch.- - But do you think, that I could keep the images dynamic and take always new images ? The images would be always in the same folder, incremented by one: image 20, image 21, ... thanks ! fraenk B. Bogart schrieb: Hi Frank, Use rectangle, not pix_draw (its slow) If you can put images in a pix_buffer it'll be really fast. Here is a 3x3 grid of images in gem (with lots of extra complexity) http://www.ekran.org/pd/patches/gem-image-grid.tgz ..b.. Fr?nk Zimmer wrote: Hi, I did an image grid in Processing.- Every 10sec a routine is looking images in a folder and displays them in an image grid of 8x8 images. The Processing sketch does not run very stable, so I would like to know , if already somebody did try this in Pd.- Is there a more clever way, than using [pix_draw] and [translate] for this? thanks.- best, fraenk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works
Yes and merry christmas to you to you too Ricardo. Google up Pure Data FLOSS Manual if you would like to see how much I complain and how little I document... Kids these days..jz.. D Quoting Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com: Man, just change chip. Use the 168 or the 328. and stop complaining, or use google then. people told you what to do, now you should try it. this is open if you want to help document it, so please do. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gridflow on windows
hello matteo, its safe to ignore the pddp* messages, pddp is a series of objects that make the internal documentation a little more user friendly when interacting with the outside world (ie internet URLS). you're right it's not part of gridflow, but i think they are generally packaged with pd-extended. it wont effect the usability of gridflow, or its documentation to not have these objects, so don't worry! cheers, dmotd Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: hello, in gridflow/doc/index.pd there a start for learning many objects Thank you for the hint. However, the point was that the [pddp_open] object (or abstraction?) used in the tutorial patch included in gridflow fails to create, so either the help patch relies on an object that is not part of Pd Extended and is not distributed with GridFlow, or there is something wrong with my installation... - Mail Original - De: pvallet publica...@free.fr ?: pd-list@iem.at Envoy?: Lundi 8 Mars 2010 19h43:20 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [PD] gridflow on windows Pddp is the PureData Documentation Project i'm not using it so i don't know much about it, but you can probably download a package from the net Greetings, p. Matteo Sisti Sette a ?crit : Oh sh##, I see it needs Pd Extented. I was trying it with Pd Vanilla. Maybe it would be a good idea to mention it in the installation readme and/or home page, or is it obvious? It seems it works for the moment. However, in the tutorial intro (gf_tutorial_intro.pd) there are a lot of [pddp_open] objects that cannot create. What is pddp_open? Where can I get it? thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works
List goofballs aside, I think it would be good to clarify all this stuff. The split between the things available on HCs site and what comes with Arduino is quite confusing. I was only using the ones from HC to keep the versions matching. The Arduino-provided Firmata stuff does not contain the Pd objects themselves, and if the Pd objects must match certain Firmata then it would be good to make a note of that somewhere... maybe on the site where the Pd stuff is downloaded? And besides that, if some Firmata says it supports ATMEGA8 then I believe what it says. I spent half of yesterday smashing my face against the keyboards of 12 students, trying to teach them something that was broken, and the reason it was broken was not documented. So yes I get a bit cranky! Peace out dudes, D. 2010/3/10 Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl Where do I find the matching Pd Firmata objects for the Firmata in Arduino 18 then? Maybe all of this could be a bit better documented? ;-) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works
On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Derek Holzer wrote: List goofballs aside, I think it would be good to clarify all this stuff. The split between the things available on HCs site and what comes with Arduino is quite confusing. I was only using the ones from HC to keep the versions matching. No argument here, its just a matter of finding the time to do it. With Firmata 2.1 the baudrate should be totally stable (that's the big change between 2.0 and 2.1), and further updates shouldn't cause issues. I'm working on finalizing the Pduino 0.5 release. The Arduino-provided Firmata stuff does not contain the Pd objects themselves, and if the Pd objects must match certain Firmata then it would be good to make a note of that somewhere... maybe on the site where the Pd stuff is downloaded? For the latest Pduino, either use the included one, or the one in Arduino 0018. And besides that, if some Firmata says it supports ATMEGA8 then I believe what it says. I spent half of yesterday smashing my face against the keyboards of 12 students, trying to teach them something that was broken, and the reason it was broken was not documented. So yes I get a bit cranky! Firmata is an Arduino library which fully supports the ATMEGA8. StandardFirmata is a firmware that uses the Firmata library that is too big for the ATMEGA8. As a teacher, I would highly recommend avoiding the ATMEGA8, they are not well supported by the Arduino community. .hc Peace out dudes, D. 2010/3/10 Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl Where do I find the matching Pd Firmata objects for the Firmata in Arduino 18 then? Maybe all of this could be a bit better documented? ;-) If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] diff frame from previous frame with Gem
Your patch is pretty simple, but it seems to be that the logic of this operation should be based off of the frame clock rather than a delay. That way, the patch would work no matter the frame rate, for example. .hc On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Max wrote: hi hans, why so complicated? just use [pix_delay 2] and [pix_separator] to feed the [pix_diff]. 05a-difference.pd taken from http://web.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Bewegungsmelder Am 03.03.2010 um 23:39 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: I am trying to make a simple patch where the current video frame is [pix_diff]'ed against the previous video frame. I can get it going manually, but I would like it to happen every frame. I think I got close, but did manage to create a bizarre effect: framechangetracking.pd .hc I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works
Hi HC, thanks for clarification. I will try to find some time to stick it in the FLOSS Manual Pduino chapters later on. I did get the ATMEGA8s running with the new baudrate, now I have a problem with the ATMEG328 but I will deal with that tomorrow. I tried to get all 12 students using same versions of everything but you know how hard that can be. What was supposed to be a 10 minute installation took the entire afternoon, along with questions about motors, circuits, mechanics and everything else in the middle of debugging. Not an optimal moment for concentration to fix a glitch... maybe I will stick to hardware-only workshops from now on, computers are only good for causing ulcers and hairloss! I landed here Sunday and started the workshop the next morning so I had no time to investigate what hardware the school had. I told them they should upgrade the ATMEGAs they have but you know how long that takes at any kind of institution ;-) Best from Helsinki! D. Quoting Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Derek Holzer wrote: List goofballs aside, I think it would be good to clarify all this stuff. The split between the things available on HCs site and what comes with Arduino is quite confusing. I was only using the ones from HC to keep the versions matching. No argument here, its just a matter of finding the time to do it. With Firmata 2.1 the baudrate should be totally stable (that's the big change between 2.0 and 2.1), and further updates shouldn't cause issues. I'm working on finalizing the Pduino 0.5 release. The Arduino-provided Firmata stuff does not contain the Pd objects themselves, and if the Pd objects must match certain Firmata then it would be good to make a note of that somewhere... maybe on the site where the Pd stuff is downloaded? For the latest Pduino, either use the included one, or the one in Arduino 0018. And besides that, if some Firmata says it supports ATMEGA8 then I believe what it says. I spent half of yesterday smashing my face against the keyboards of 12 students, trying to teach them something that was broken, and the reason it was broken was not documented. So yes I get a bit cranky! Firmata is an Arduino library which fully supports the ATMEGA8. StandardFirmata is a firmware that uses the Firmata library that is too big for the ATMEGA8. As a teacher, I would highly recommend avoiding the ATMEGA8, they are not well supported by the Arduino community. .hc Peace out dudes, D. 2010/3/10 Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl Where do I find the matching Pd Firmata objects for the Firmata in Arduino 18 then? Maybe all of this could be a bit better documented? ;-) If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] diff frame from previous frame with Gem
hi hans, why so complicated? just use [pix_delay 2] and [pix_separator] to feed the [pix_diff]. 05a-difference.pd Description: Binary data taken from http://web.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Bewegungsmelder Am 03.03.2010 um 23:39 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: I am trying to make a simple patch where the current video frame is [pix_diff]'ed against the previous video frame. I can get it going manually, but I would like it to happen every frame. I think I got close, but did manage to create a bizarre effect: framechangetracking.pd .hc I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] diff frame from previous frame with Gem
pix_delay actually works exactly that way. its not milliseconds, it's frames. have a look at the helppatch fo pix_delay m. Am 10.03.2010 um 17:36 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Your patch is pretty simple, but it seems to be that the logic of this operation should be based off of the frame clock rather than a delay. That way, the patch would work no matter the frame rate, for example. .hc On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Max wrote: hi hans, why so complicated? just use [pix_delay 2] and [pix_separator] to feed the [pix_diff]. 05a-difference.pd taken from http://web.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Bewegungsmelder Am 03.03.2010 um 23:39 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: I am trying to make a simple patch where the current video frame is [pix_diff]'ed against the previous video frame. I can get it going manually, but I would like it to happen every frame. I think I got close, but did manage to create a bizarre effect: framechangetracking.pd .hc I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Good Morning Puredata
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:29 PM, brankojr brank...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! I'm brankolo from Turin in Italy. I'm using Pure Data from two years ago, i'm not so expert but i LOVE it. I also working on ITALY Community of Pure Data to expand the use of this software, and to find solution together. I practice expecially in ArtWork-Apps connected to Arduino for sensors and motors. So, i hope to spend good time in this mailinglist, and I wish you have fun. Bye, see you soon. :) Bienvenuto Brankolo, please keep us posted about ITALY Community of Pure Data as there are a few people on the list who might be interested - I am keen on Turin-Milano area happenings. btw do you know these guys? http://puredata.bugslab.net/ Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] diff frame from previous frame with Gem
On 2010-03-10 17:36, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Your patch is pretty simple, but it seems to be that the logic of this operation should be based off of the frame clock rather than a delay. [pix_delay] is a tap-delay (like z~), thus you give it the samples (frames) to delay, rather than the time (e.g. [vd~]) fgmkasdr IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fontsizes
I am on Linux... recent build means in case of overlays for Gentoo: Wait Best regards, mcc Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com [10-03-10 17:32]: In winxp: Browser-- fine. Font menu, console buttons, iemgui properties dialogue, gatom properties dialogue, canvas dialogue, scalar dialogue buttons, Put menu array dialogue, find dialogue, File menu message-- still tiny. -Jonathan --- On Wed, 3/10/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Fontsizes To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at, meino.cra...@gmx.de Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 3:33 AM I think I fixed this recently, try a recent build. .hc On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Same problem with small fonts on winxp with Pd version 0.42.5-extended 20100217 (audio menu, MIDI menu, properties dialogue, browser). -Jonathan --- On Sat, 2/27/10, meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: From: meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de Subject: [PD] Fontsizes To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, February 27, 2010, 5:15 AM Hi, I am still unsure, whether I have installed puredata correctly... Being on Gentoo-Linux, which I periodically update, I use a so called overlay especially made for gentoo to install pd-extended. When I start pd, the initial dialog (that one with the console) came up with a microscopic font size. Loading any patch also results in dialog, which came up with that too small font. Now I am able to change it to a bigger size, which often mess up the laout of that patch. I tried to set the font size globally in ~/.pdsettings, which does not work, though pd repports in startup flags my setting. I also can set to that fontsize by hand. When starting pd from the command line it reports: Pd version 0.41-4extended compiled 14:14:02 Feb 21 2010 port 5401 TCL_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/pd/tcl/library TK_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/pd/tk/library /usr/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui 5401 Waiting for connection request... ... connected Is there any way to increase the complete pd-display by a factor to make things readable? Any othe hint? Thank you very much in advance for any help! :) Have a nice weekend! Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] diff frame from previous frame with Gem
Ah, ok, so then very nice! .hc On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Max wrote: pix_delay actually works exactly that way. its not milliseconds, it's frames. have a look at the helppatch fo pix_delay m. Am 10.03.2010 um 17:36 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Your patch is pretty simple, but it seems to be that the logic of this operation should be based off of the frame clock rather than a delay. That way, the patch would work no matter the frame rate, for example. .hc On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Max wrote: hi hans, why so complicated? just use [pix_delay 2] and [pix_separator] to feed the [pix_diff]. 05a-difference.pd taken from http://web.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Bewegungsmelder Am 03.03.2010 um 23:39 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: I am trying to make a simple patch where the current video frame is [pix_diff]'ed against the previous video frame. I can get it going manually, but I would like it to happen every frame. I think I got close, but did manage to create a bizarre effect: framechangetracking.pd .hc I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works
Keep in mind this is beta software so you were just a beta tester. It would be great to incorporate your experience into the next release. Perhaps the best way to support the ATMEGA8 is to post a firmware for it somewhere, like StandardFirmataATMEGA8. It would just be OldStandardFirmata/StandardFirmataV2_0 renamed to StandardFirmataATMEGA8 and with the baud rate of 57600. What is only a question of the ATMEGA8? Or where there other problems? .hc On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Derek Holzer wrote: Hi HC, thanks for clarification. I will try to find some time to stick it in the FLOSS Manual Pduino chapters later on. I did get the ATMEGA8s running with the new baudrate, now I have a problem with the ATMEG328 but I will deal with that tomorrow. I tried to get all 12 students using same versions of everything but you know how hard that can be. What was supposed to be a 10 minute installation took the entire afternoon, along with questions about motors, circuits, mechanics and everything else in the middle of debugging. Not an optimal moment for concentration to fix a glitch... maybe I will stick to hardware-only workshops from now on, computers are only good for causing ulcers and hairloss! I landed here Sunday and started the workshop the next morning so I had no time to investigate what hardware the school had. I told them they should upgrade the ATMEGAs they have but you know how long that takes at any kind of institution ;-) Best from Helsinki! D. Quoting Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Derek Holzer wrote: List goofballs aside, I think it would be good to clarify all this stuff. The split between the things available on HCs site and what comes with Arduino is quite confusing. I was only using the ones from HC to keep the versions matching. No argument here, its just a matter of finding the time to do it. With Firmata 2.1 the baudrate should be totally stable (that's the big change between 2.0 and 2.1), and further updates shouldn't cause issues. I'm working on finalizing the Pduino 0.5 release. The Arduino-provided Firmata stuff does not contain the Pd objects themselves, and if the Pd objects must match certain Firmata then it would be good to make a note of that somewhere... maybe on the site where the Pd stuff is downloaded? For the latest Pduino, either use the included one, or the one in Arduino 0018. And besides that, if some Firmata says it supports ATMEGA8 then I believe what it says. I spent half of yesterday smashing my face against the keyboards of 12 students, trying to teach them something that was broken, and the reason it was broken was not documented. So yes I get a bit cranky! Firmata is an Arduino library which fully supports the ATMEGA8. StandardFirmata is a firmware that uses the Firmata library that is too big for the ATMEGA8. As a teacher, I would highly recommend avoiding the ATMEGA8, they are not well supported by the Arduino community. .hc Peace out dudes, D. 2010/3/10 Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl Where do I find the matching Pd Firmata objects for the Firmata in Arduino 18 then? Maybe all of this could be a bit better documented? ;-) If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works
Hi Derek, As you said institutions have their own way of operating when it comes to upgrading their existing devices, which might even take ages for a single chip changes, I always find it handy to ask the available equipments list beforehand for the workshop. I have been using those Arduino boards since 2006 here in my workshops and courses, and each time we made them work fine based on the student project needs. Last time it was October 2009, without spending more than 15min :), they functioned well with Firmata-2.1beta5, not with StandardFirmata, but the other analog, servo, and simpledigital, and we had three student projects done with sensors+arduino+pduino at the end of the workshop. and yes, we should mention that ATMEGA8 is not good with StandardFirmata, see you tomorrow ;) Koray. On Mar 10, 2010, at 6:57 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Message: 2 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:48:12 +0100 From: Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl Subject: Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: pd-list PD-list@iem.at Message-ID: 20100310174812.57clvr0ln4880...@webmail.ideeel.nl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp=Yes; format=flowed Hi HC, thanks for clarification. I will try to find some time to stick it in the FLOSS Manual Pduino chapters later on. I did get the ATMEGA8s running with the new baudrate, now I have a problem with the ATMEG328 but I will deal with that tomorrow. I tried to get all 12 students using same versions of everything but you know how hard that can be. What was supposed to be a 10 minute installation took the entire afternoon, along with questions about motors, circuits, mechanics and everything else in the middle of debugging. Not an optimal moment for concentration to fix a glitch... maybe I will stick to hardware-only workshops from now on, computers are only good for causing ulcers and hairloss! I landed here Sunday and started the workshop the next morning so I had no time to investigate what hardware the school had. I told them they should upgrade the ATMEGAs they have but you know how long that takes at any kind of institution ;-) Best from Helsinki! D. - M.Koray Tahiroğlu Media Lab, Aalto University, School of Art and Design http://mlab.taik.fi/~korayt tel: +358 45 233 6272 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reson~ from max in pd
O.k. that helps a lot! Thanks. I'll read on, for the math thing. If anybody has any suggestions, how to solve the problem, it would be great. I got curious about this stuff and am a litttle impatiant to know how it works ... Am Mittwoch 10 März 2010 00:12:30 schrieben Sie: Check the 'cyclone' lib, it has Max clones. I think there is at least one other reson~ included in Pd-extended. .hc On Mar 9, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Björn Lindig wrote: Hi, a friend asked me, wether there is a object similar to the [fffb~] in max/msp (a fast fixed filter bank) in pd. I did not find it instantly so I started to build one after the formula posted in [reson~]s help in max: y[n] = gain * (x[n] - r * x[n-2]) + c1 * y[n-1] + c2 * y[n-2] I appended a patch, that I created after this formula. The Problem is, that I would love to klone the max-object, but at the moment I have only inlets for r, c1, c2 and gain. What I need is the math to calculate the values for r, c1, c2 and gain for given center frequency, Q/Bandwith, and gain. I started reading the chapters on time shifts and delays and filters in miller-puckettes book and the book of J. O. Smith. But to be honest, I did not yet understand much of what is writen there. So I thought, there might be someone arround here, who can give me a fast answer, or who can point me into the right direction. If it is the best to try resonz and resonr (I'm on train building pd- extended, used vanilla before), I'll accept that. On the other hand, I would be realy curious about the math that is used to solve this problem. Thank you very much! Bjoern #N canvas 611 38 615 510 10; #X obj 105 -13 inlet~; #X obj 105 394 outlet~; #X obj 153 218 delwrite~ del3; #X obj 125 348 delwrite~ del2; #X obj 105 121 +~; #X obj 104 239 +~; #X obj 104 320 +~; #X obj 125 99 *~; #X obj 122 218 *~; #X obj 138 299 *~; #X obj 239 -10 inlet~; #X text 239 -27 r; #X obj 307 -10 inlet~; #X obj 383 -7 inlet~; #X text 303 -33 c1; #X text 389 -26 c2; #X obj 124 14 delwrite~ del1 1; #X obj 125 78 delread~ del1; #X obj 123 198 delread~ del2 1; #X obj 138 278 delread~ del3 1; #X obj 427 134 samplerate~; #X msg 387 134 1; #X obj 387 155 /; #X obj 387 91 loadbang; #X floatatom 387 198 0 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 387 112 t b b; #X obj 387 176 * 1000; #X obj 387 221 s one_sample; #X obj 125 34 r one_sample; #X obj 125 55 * 2; #X obj 131 177 r one_sample; #X obj 147 254 r one_sample; #X obj 105 150 *~; #X obj 455 -4 inlet~; #X text 456 -22 gain; #X connect 0 0 4 0; #X connect 0 0 16 0; #X connect 4 0 32 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 1 0; #X connect 6 0 3 0; #X connect 7 0 4 1; #X connect 8 0 5 1; #X connect 9 0 6 1; #X connect 10 0 7 1; #X connect 12 0 8 1; #X connect 13 0 9 1; #X connect 17 0 7 0; #X connect 18 0 8 0; #X connect 18 0 2 0; #X connect 19 0 9 0; #X connect 20 0 22 1; #X connect 21 0 22 0; #X connect 22 0 26 0; #X connect 23 0 25 0; #X connect 24 0 27 0; #X connect 25 0 21 0; #X connect 25 1 20 0; #X connect 26 0 24 0; #X connect 28 0 29 0; #X connect 29 0 17 0; #X connect 30 0 18 0; #X connect 31 0 19 0; #X connect 32 0 5 0; #X connect 33 0 32 1; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list --- - Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Good Morning Puredata
Hey Brankolo, welcome! good to see you here.. cheers p.s. pay attention not to post to Pd-announce, unless you have news about events and similar. ;) -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-ext and Ubuntu
liblame0 is not DFSG free because it is a patented algorithm in a number of countries, like the US and Germany. That's why Debian and GnuSense don't distribute it. Ubuntu is probably based in a country where that patent isn't valid, so they choose to include it. hc On Mar 8, 2010, at 2:23 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hello, I've got a box with gNewSense 2.3-deltah which I've read is based on Ubuntu Hardy. When I try to install the package from the download page, or install one of the nightly builds, I get an error about a missing dependency liblame0. I saw an ugly hack listed here: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-09/065299.html It works but the package is still listed as broken in Synaptic. Does this happen for other people on Hardy or am I doing something wrong? Thanks, Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works
Once I fixed the baudrate (thx!!!) it works fine. One student has trouble with an ATMEGA328 that I will have to troubleshoot tomorrow. Good idea to make a specific release, or at least label it in some way that makes it clear. I know it's ugly to support very old hardware, but I think there are a lot of those things out there in the world still. Best, D. On 3/10/10 7:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Keep in mind this is beta software so you were just a beta tester. It would be great to incorporate your experience into the next release. Perhaps the best way to support the ATMEGA8 is to post a firmware for it somewhere, like StandardFirmataATMEGA8. It would just be OldStandardFirmata/StandardFirmataV2_0 renamed to StandardFirmataATMEGA8 and with the baud rate of 57600. What is only a question of the ATMEGA8? Or where there other problems? .hc On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Derek Holzer wrote: Hi HC, thanks for clarification. I will try to find some time to stick it in the FLOSS Manual Pduino chapters later on. I did get the ATMEGA8s running with the new baudrate, now I have a problem with the ATMEG328 but I will deal with that tomorrow. I tried to get all 12 students using same versions of everything but you know how hard that can be. What was supposed to be a 10 minute installation took the entire afternoon, along with questions about motors, circuits, mechanics and everything else in the middle of debugging. Not an optimal moment for concentration to fix a glitch... maybe I will stick to hardware-only workshops from now on, computers are only good for causing ulcers and hairloss! I landed here Sunday and started the workshop the next morning so I had no time to investigate what hardware the school had. I told them they should upgrade the ATMEGAs they have but you know how long that takes at any kind of institution ;-) Best from Helsinki! D. Quoting Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Derek Holzer wrote: List goofballs aside, I think it would be good to clarify all this stuff. The split between the things available on HCs site and what comes with Arduino is quite confusing. I was only using the ones from HC to keep the versions matching. No argument here, its just a matter of finding the time to do it. With Firmata 2.1 the baudrate should be totally stable (that's the big change between 2.0 and 2.1), and further updates shouldn't cause issues. I'm working on finalizing the Pduino 0.5 release. The Arduino-provided Firmata stuff does not contain the Pd objects themselves, and if the Pd objects must match certain Firmata then it would be good to make a note of that somewhere... maybe on the site where the Pd stuff is downloaded? For the latest Pduino, either use the included one, or the one in Arduino 0018. And besides that, if some Firmata says it supports ATMEGA8 then I believe what it says. I spent half of yesterday smashing my face against the keyboards of 12 students, trying to teach them something that was broken, and the reason it was broken was not documented. So yes I get a bit cranky! Firmata is an Arduino library which fully supports the ATMEGA8. StandardFirmata is a firmware that uses the Firmata library that is too big for the ATMEGA8. As a teacher, I would highly recommend avoiding the ATMEGA8, they are not well supported by the Arduino community. .hc Peace out dudes, D. 2010/3/10 Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl Where do I find the matching Pd Firmata objects for the Firmata in Arduino 18 then? Maybe all of this could be a bit better documented? ;-) If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 68: Faced with a choice, do both ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works
I don't have any ATMEGA8 boards anymore, so I am not in a position to maintain that stuff. Perhaps you could just bundle up the version you got working, call it StandardFirmataAtmega8 and post it somewhere? .hc On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Derek Holzer wrote: Once I fixed the baudrate (thx!!!) it works fine. One student has trouble with an ATMEGA328 that I will have to troubleshoot tomorrow. Good idea to make a specific release, or at least label it in some way that makes it clear. I know it's ugly to support very old hardware, but I think there are a lot of those things out there in the world still. Best, D. On 3/10/10 7:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Keep in mind this is beta software so you were just a beta tester. It would be great to incorporate your experience into the next release. Perhaps the best way to support the ATMEGA8 is to post a firmware for it somewhere, like StandardFirmataATMEGA8. It would just be OldStandardFirmata/StandardFirmataV2_0 renamed to StandardFirmataATMEGA8 and with the baud rate of 57600. What is only a question of the ATMEGA8? Or where there other problems? .hc On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Derek Holzer wrote: Hi HC, thanks for clarification. I will try to find some time to stick it in the FLOSS Manual Pduino chapters later on. I did get the ATMEGA8s running with the new baudrate, now I have a problem with the ATMEG328 but I will deal with that tomorrow. I tried to get all 12 students using same versions of everything but you know how hard that can be. What was supposed to be a 10 minute installation took the entire afternoon, along with questions about motors, circuits, mechanics and everything else in the middle of debugging. Not an optimal moment for concentration to fix a glitch... maybe I will stick to hardware-only workshops from now on, computers are only good for causing ulcers and hairloss! I landed here Sunday and started the workshop the next morning so I had no time to investigate what hardware the school had. I told them they should upgrade the ATMEGAs they have but you know how long that takes at any kind of institution ;-) Best from Helsinki! D. Quoting Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Derek Holzer wrote: List goofballs aside, I think it would be good to clarify all this stuff. The split between the things available on HCs site and what comes with Arduino is quite confusing. I was only using the ones from HC to keep the versions matching. No argument here, its just a matter of finding the time to do it. With Firmata 2.1 the baudrate should be totally stable (that's the big change between 2.0 and 2.1), and further updates shouldn't cause issues. I'm working on finalizing the Pduino 0.5 release. The Arduino-provided Firmata stuff does not contain the Pd objects themselves, and if the Pd objects must match certain Firmata then it would be good to make a note of that somewhere... maybe on the site where the Pd stuff is downloaded? For the latest Pduino, either use the included one, or the one in Arduino 0018. And besides that, if some Firmata says it supports ATMEGA8 then I believe what it says. I spent half of yesterday smashing my face against the keyboards of 12 students, trying to teach them something that was broken, and the reason it was broken was not documented. So yes I get a bit cranky! Firmata is an Arduino library which fully supports the ATMEGA8. StandardFirmata is a firmware that uses the Firmata library that is too big for the ATMEGA8. As a teacher, I would highly recommend avoiding the ATMEGA8, they are not well supported by the Arduino community. .hc Peace out dudes, D. 2010/3/10 Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl Where do I find the matching Pd Firmata objects for the Firmata in Arduino 18 then? Maybe all of this could be a bit better documented? ;-) If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 68: Faced with a choice, do both Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. - Chris McCormick ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works
Derek, sorry if me post seamed to harsh or stupid :) iwas only trying to say that you should use the 168 or 328 atmegas. If they don't have a programmer, I found somewhere on the net, that is possible to programm the atmegas using the arduino board. With little modification, Sorry again, I didn't wanted to be rude. Peace :) On 10 Mar 2010 20:23, Koray Tahiroglu koray.tahiro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Derek, As you said institutions have their own way of operating when it comes to upgrading their existing devices, which might even take ages for a single chip changes, I always find it handy to ask the available equipments list beforehand for the workshop. I have been using those Arduino boards since 2006 here in my workshops and courses, and each time we made them work fine based on the student project needs. Last time it was October 2009, without spending more than 15min :), they functioned well with Firmata-2.1beta5, not with StandardFirmata, but the other analog, servo, and simpledigital, and we had three student projects done with sensors+arduino+pduino at the end of the workshop. and yes, we should mention that ATMEGA8 is not good with StandardFirmata, see you tomorrow ;) Koray. On Mar 10, 2010, at 6:57 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Message: 2 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:48:12 +0100 From: Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl Subject: Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: pd-list PD-list@iem.at Message-ID: 20100310174812.57clvr0ln4880...@webmail.ideeel.nl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp=Yes; format=flowed Hi HC, thanks for clarification. I will try to find some time to stick it in the FLOSS ... - M.Koray Tahiroğlu Media Lab, Aalto University, School of Art and Design http://mlab.taik.fi/~korayt tel: +358 45 233 6272 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reson~ from max in pd
Thank you Frank! Your information is very useful and interesting. I think, the jurney of learning how to make filters has just begun! Best regards, Bjoern Am Mittwoch 10 März 2010 09:09:19 schrieb Frank Barknecht: Hallo, Björn Lindig hat gesagt: // Björn Lindig wrote: a friend asked me, wether there is a object similar to the [fffb~] in max/msp (a fast fixed filter bank) in pd. I did not find it instantly so I started to build one after the formula posted in [reson~]s help in max: y[n] = gain * (x[n] - r * x[n-2]) + c1 * y[n-1] + c2 * y[n-2] I appended a patch, that I created after this formula. The Problem is, that I would love to klone the max-object, but at the moment I have only inlets for r, c1, c2 and gain. What I need is the math to calculate the values for r, c1, c2 and gain for given center frequency, Q/Bandwith, and gain. The equation above is the important base equation for many filters, but in practice it is pretty useless. The brains are in how to calculate the various parameters given more musical inputs like frequency and bandwith/resonance, and normalizing the output volume. Traditionally (i.e. since at least CSound times) what is called reson is a two-pole-two-zero (2nd order) resonating bandpass filter. In Pd an equivalent to equation above is a [biquad~] object or alternatively this: [rzero~] [rzero~] [cpole~] [cpole~] with suitable transofrmations of the input parameters to get the pole/zero coefficients right. I started reading the chapters on time shifts and delays and filters in miller-puckettes book and the book of J. O. Smith. But to be honest, I did not yet understand much of what is writen there. So I thought, there might be someone arround here, who can give me a fast answer, or who can point me into the right direction. I think, JOS and MSP are already the right direction, another stop could be the book at www.dspguide.com If it is the best to try resonz and resonr (I'm on train building pd-extended, used vanilla before), I'll accept that. I believe, resonz is the same as reson~ in Max/MSP. All these resonX things differ only in how they normalize the filter for different center frequencies. resonr keeps the resonance gain constant, resonz normalizes the peak gain: http://www.dsprelated.com/dspbooks/filters/Peak_Gain_Versus_Resonance.html resonz~ and resonr~ can be build as abstractions, so there's no need to install externals just for them: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-12/067018.html These and some more Pd vanilla filters are also part of the rj library: http://trac.rjdj.me/browser/trunk/rjlib/rj Ciao ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] GSOC 2010?
Is there any interest in pushing for Google Summer of Code 2010? Pd should be sponsored over the plethora of lame open source games. Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GSOC 2010?
I'll happily contribute, but since i am 2 for 2 on not getting it, I think someone else should lead the charge. We certainly have a lot of material to start with. .hc On Mar 10, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: Is there any interest in pushing for Google Summer of Code 2010? Pd should be sponsored over the plethora of lame open source games. Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Good Morning Puredata
Hey Brakolo, good to see you there ;) András, the page you linked was the wiki page we use during the first puredata meeting in italy in april 2007. It was organized by bugslab, an italian hacklab from Rome. Now we are focused on other activities, like this: http://nilin-palestine.org but still there is people of us working on PD and other free tools for creativity. The better site for meet the italian PD community is www.puredata.it If you are in italy looking for some cool hack space write me ;) cheers husk 2010/3/10 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:29 PM, brankojr brank...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! I'm brankolo from Turin in Italy. I'm using Pure Data from two years ago, i'm not so expert but i LOVE it. I also working on ITALY Community of Pure Data to expand the use of this software, and to find solution together. I practice expecially in ArtWork-Apps connected to Arduino for sensors and motors. So, i hope to spend good time in this mailinglist, and I wish you have fun. Bye, see you soon. :) Bienvenuto Brankolo, please keep us posted about ITALY Community of Pure Data as there are a few people on the list who might be interested - I am keen on Turin-Milano area happenings. btw do you know these guys? http://puredata.bugslab.net/ Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- If identity in the Post-modernism is nothing you can call me a RadikalTeknoFreak Hartivist www.estereotips.net qeve.estereotips.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Extended can't load any library except Gem on Windows Vista
Sounds like 'libdir' isn't being loaded first. Try reseting your registry settings with the included pdsettings.reg file. .hc On Mar 7, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Errata corrige: there is one other library that does load, it is vbap. And one thing it has in common with Gem is that its folder contains a dll file with the same name, namely vbap.dll. Seems like all other libraries don't (though I haven't checked _all_ of them). So I guess I should add the other directories to path rather than to startup? The very strange thing is that it used to work up to a few days ago however... Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: Hi, The short version: I fresh-installed Pd Extended into the default location (C:\Program Files\pd) and I get: cyclone: can't load library zexy: can't load library creb: can't load library and so on for EVERY library except Gem. The strange thing is that Gem does load, and it is located in pd/extra just like all other libraries. This is really crazy isn't it? What can be wrong? The long version: I had already installed Pd Extended and it used to work fine. It was installed in an unusual location: D:/programmi/pd_extended, where programmi is the italian word for programs but it is _not_ the default directory for programs in my computer (who speaks spanish, not italian). When I installed it, I had to manually modify the pd-settings.reg file that adds the libraries to startup, because it uses the wrong location for the registry keys (this has nothing to do with the path where Pd is installed). After that, I had Pd Extended working fine and loading all libraries. Also, I have Pd Vanilla installed in another directory, D: \programmi\pd. I run it using the -noprefs option, because otherwise, it would (try to) load the libraries from pd Extended. Today, misteriously and without (apparently) touching anything, Pd Extended stopped working, that is it started giving me cannot load library messages. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling it to the same directory with no luck. So I uninstalled and reinstalled again, this time to the default location C:\Program Files\pd (note disk C which is where the OS is installed, and Program Files is the actual system Program Files directory, which is displayed as Archivos de Programa). However the result is the same: cannot load library for all libraries except Gem. The Gem it is loading is actually the one installed inside the C: \Program Files\pd\extra\Gem directory, which is the same path where all other libraries are located too. I know it because if I rename that gem.dll file, it won't load. Please help! thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to add relative paths - was: Re: Extended can't load any library except Gem on Windows Vista
Which version of Pd-extended are you using? .hc On Mar 8, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig escribió: seems like you are missing the libdir loader. Pd-extended compiles libraries as libdirs, [...] Oh yes! Libdir is indeed the first item in the loadlib list - i.e. it is loadlib1=libdir in the registry, so the mistery is why libdir doesn't [didn't] load in the first place (I do, and did, have a libdir.dll file in the extra folder). Now two strange things: 1) I manually re-edited the .reg file, apparently reestablishing it just like it was before (I had replaced all loadlib with path as a workaround, to have all externals available though not pre- loaded), and surprise surprise, now everything works: libdir loads and all subsequent libs load 2) Now, just to try, I deleted all keys from the registry (all the loadlib entries _and_ the nloadlib entry); however, when I run Pd, it still loads all libraries, and they appear in the startup list. If I modify the list from Pd and click Apply, then all keys in the registry are created again. So, how does Pd remember the startup list after I delete it from the registry? Seems like it saves it somewhere else. Where?? Or is it the registry itself that has some sort of cache? Regarding mistrey (1), there is an error in the pd-settings.reg file (as it ships with Pd Extended), that the line just before loadlib1=libdir reads flags= where it should read flags= However I had fixed it already, so it doesn't quite explain the fact that libdir didn't load.. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Any experience with analog gamepad and [hid]?
[hid] just relays the data that the OS gets, so it sounds like your cheap gamepads are a bit too cheap. I've seen exactly that in some gamepads and joysticks. The quality of HID devices can vary wildly. I've had good luck with Saitek joysticks and Logitech mice. Logitech joysticks are just ok. .hc On Mar 9, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi all! I was wondering if anybody could provide me with some feedback about any experience with a gamepad and [hid]. I use a DIY stompbox i made from a (very) cheap analog gamepad, and i am experiencing some trouble with the data i get from the analog potentiometers (i put one of them in an expression pedal). Basically, 3 pots out of 4 don't cover the entire theoretical range (0 to 256) and can only provide an input up to about 150. The last pot does cover the whole range, but in a non-linear fashion. So i was thinking of making another stompbox with a better quality gamepad, but i want to make sure the problem comes from the cheap gamepad i used and not from [hid] itself. By the way i use Pd-extended on Fedora 12 with the Planet CCRMA rt-kernel. Best, Pierre PS : it goes without saying that i did check the value of the pots in the gamepad before replacing them. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fontsizes
I am guessing that you don't have the right font installed. Depending on which version of Pd you are using, it could be Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, DejaVu Sans Mono, or others. .hc On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:57 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I am on Linux... recent build means in case of overlays for Gentoo: Wait Best regards, mcc Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com [10-03-10 17:32]: In winxp: Browser-- fine. Font menu, console buttons, iemgui properties dialogue, gatom properties dialogue, canvas dialogue, scalar dialogue buttons, Put menu array dialogue, find dialogue, File menu message-- still tiny. -Jonathan --- On Wed, 3/10/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Fontsizes To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at, meino.cra...@gmx.de Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 3:33 AM I think I fixed this recently, try a recent build. .hc On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Same problem with small fonts on winxp with Pd version 0.42.5-extended 20100217 (audio menu, MIDI menu, properties dialogue, browser). -Jonathan --- On Sat, 2/27/10, meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: From: meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de Subject: [PD] Fontsizes To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, February 27, 2010, 5:15 AM Hi, I am still unsure, whether I have installed puredata correctly... Being on Gentoo-Linux, which I periodically update, I use a so called overlay especially made for gentoo to install pd-extended. When I start pd, the initial dialog (that one with the console) came up with a microscopic font size. Loading any patch also results in dialog, which came up with that too small font. Now I am able to change it to a bigger size, which often mess up the laout of that patch. I tried to set the font size globally in ~/.pdsettings, which does not work, though pd repports in startup flags my setting. I also can set to that fontsize by hand. When starting pd from the command line it reports: Pd version 0.41-4extended compiled 14:14:02 Feb 21 2010 port 5401 TCL_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/pd/tcl/library TK_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/pd/tk/library /usr/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui 5401 Waiting for connection request... ... connected Is there any way to increase the complete pd-display by a factor to make things readable? Any othe hint? Thank you very much in advance for any help! :) Have a nice weekend! Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] MusicumMachina
Wow, 1.5 gigs of samples is a lot. Is there a smaller version to play with? Nice sound sample. .hc On Feb 17, 2010, at 1:50 PM, JKP wrote: An Machine Sound Generator for Pure Data Made with Pd version 0.41.4-extended --- DOWNLOAD --- The Patches http://jkp.antisocial.be/musique/JKP-MusicumMachina.zip The Sound ( 1.5 Go ) http://jkp.antisocial.be/musique/JKP-audio.zip --- INSTALL --- Unpack the zip file called JKP-musicummachina.zip into your pure data directory ./puredata/ ( patch files ) Unpack the zip file JKP-audio.zip into your previously selected directory ./puredata/JKP-MusicumMachina/ ( sound files ) --- PLAY --- In order to listen the MusicumMachina project, open: musicum-machina.pd In order to play with the MusicumMachina project, open: musicum-machina-live.pd --- EXAMPLE --- http://jkp.antisocial.be/musique/exemple.mp3 -- SCREENSHOT --- http://jkp.antisocial.be/musicummachina.html --- THANKS --- to Miller Puckett to Thomas Thierry to Hardoff ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] [readanysf~] for ubuntu
Hi all I dug into deb packaging and published the results on a PPA: https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra+deps Supported are: Ubuntu Karmic (amd64, i386, lpia) Ubuntu Jaunty (amd64, i386, lpia) I hope this works for you (please report back, if not). I had troubles building libgmerlin-avdec1 on Intrepid, that is why there is no [readanysf~] for Intrepid. Hardy seems to involve even more work and I don't know, if it is possible at all. Roman ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [readanysf~] for ubuntu
Nice one. very useful :D thanks for the release! 2010/3/10 Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de Hi all I dug into deb packaging and published the results on a PPA: https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra+depshttps://launchpad.net/%7Ereduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra+deps Supported are: Ubuntu Karmic (amd64, i386, lpia) Ubuntu Jaunty (amd64, i386, lpia) I hope this works for you (please report back, if not). I had troubles building libgmerlin-avdec1 on Intrepid, that is why there is no [readanysf~] for Intrepid. Hardy seems to involve even more work and I don't know, if it is possible at all. Roman ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fontsizes
Regarding the fix, which was mentioned here: I checked, whether there is something on the svn of pd-overlay for gentoo-linux...nothing. And: What version of pd was patched with this fix? Regarding you posting: The or others is the thing, which gives me headaches... ;/ What do you suggest what I can do to fix the problem in a at least half efficient way? mcc Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at [10-03-11 00:48]: I am guessing that you don't have the right font installed. Depending on which version of Pd you are using, it could be Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, DejaVu Sans Mono, or others. .hc On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:57 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I am on Linux... recent build means in case of overlays for Gentoo: Wait Best regards, mcc Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com [10-03-10 17:32]: In winxp: Browser-- fine. Font menu, console buttons, iemgui properties dialogue, gatom properties dialogue, canvas dialogue, scalar dialogue buttons, Put menu array dialogue, find dialogue, File menu message-- still tiny. -Jonathan --- On Wed, 3/10/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Fontsizes To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at, meino.cra...@gmx.de Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 3:33 AM I think I fixed this recently, try a recent build. .hc On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Same problem with small fonts on winxp with Pd version 0.42.5-extended 20100217 (audio menu, MIDI menu, properties dialogue, browser). -Jonathan --- On Sat, 2/27/10, meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: From: meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de Subject: [PD] Fontsizes To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, February 27, 2010, 5:15 AM Hi, I am still unsure, whether I have installed puredata correctly... Being on Gentoo-Linux, which I periodically update, I use a so called overlay especially made for gentoo to install pd-extended. When I start pd, the initial dialog (that one with the console) came up with a microscopic font size. Loading any patch also results in dialog, which came up with that too small font. Now I am able to change it to a bigger size, which often mess up the laout of that patch. I tried to set the font size globally in ~/.pdsettings, which does not work, though pd repports in startup flags my setting. I also can set to that fontsize by hand. When starting pd from the command line it reports: Pd version 0.41-4extended compiled 14:14:02 Feb 21 2010 port 5401 TCL_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/pd/tcl/library TK_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/pd/tk/library /usr/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui 5401 Waiting for connection request... ... connected Is there any way to increase the complete pd-display by a factor to make things readable? Any othe hint? Thank you very much in advance for any help! :) Have a nice weekend! Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-ext and Ubuntu
I used to keep with Hardy then i unfortunately was forced to upgrade to Jaunty. liblame0 has been renamed (?) to libmp3lame0, so you may find it by that name. It comes from the Multiverse repo, which is not enabled by default. For all kinds of copyrighted stuff, add the Medibuntu.org repo. (It might or might not solve this particular problem.) Andras On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: liblame0 is not DFSG free because it is a patented algorithm in a number of countries, like the US and Germany. That's why Debian and GnuSense don't distribute it. Ubuntu is probably based in a country where that patent isn't valid, so they choose to include it. hc On Mar 8, 2010, at 2:23 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hello, I've got a box with gNewSense 2.3-deltah which I've read is based on Ubuntu Hardy. When I try to install the package from the download page, or install one of the nightly builds, I get an error about a missing dependency liblame0. I saw an ugly hack listed here: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-09/065299.html It works but the package is still listed as broken in Synaptic. Does this happen for other people on Hardy or am I doing something wrong? Thanks, Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity. -John Gilmore ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Muranyi Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Playing soundfile via array
Hi, (using Pd version 0.41.4-extended on Gentoo Linux (pd-overlay)) I am trying to read a short soundfile (wav/aiff) from disc into an array and then play the data of the array into a [dac~]. In the meanwhile to sounds like something but itt has nothing to do with the original file, which plays well via mplayer, vlc etc. # file oneshot.wav gives me oneshot.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo 22050 Hz # file oneshot.aiff gives me oneshot.aiff: IFF data, AIFF audio Only reading the file via the last raw command fills the array with anything else then nulls. Both top commands seem to do nothing at all. I copied the stuff from different help entries. Attached you will find the according patch. What did I wrong with this? Thank you very much in advance for any help! mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. #N canvas 590 75 737 1007 24; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 (subpatch) 0; #X array array1 5379 float 0; #X coords 0 1 5378 -1 300 100 1; #X restore 131 321 graph; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 (subpatch) 0; #X array array2 5381 float 4; #X coords 0 1 5380 -1 300 100 1; #X restore 131 427 graph; #X obj 17 262 soundfiler; #X floatatom 16 343 0 0 0 0 - - -; #X msg 452 557 \; pd dsp 0; #X msg 177 556 \; readout 1 \; pd dsp 1 \;; #X floatatom 30 975 0 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 36 889 env~ 16384; #X obj 109 855 *~; #X obj 245 925 line~; #X msg 297 847 0 100; #X obj 109 953 hip~ 5; #X msg 41 670 bang; #X msg 14 632 set array2; #X obj 35 802 tabplay~ array2; #X obj 111 1029 dac~; #X msg 266 741 22050 1000; #X msg 125 742 0 22050; #X msg 283 805 100 100; #X msg 68 709 22050; #X msg 35 67 read /tmp/oneshot.wav array2; #X msg 56 152 read -resize /tmp/oneshot.wav array2; #X msg 63 203 read -raw 128 2 2 b /tmp/oneshot.wav array2; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 7 0 6 0; #X connect 8 0 11 0; #X connect 9 0 8 1; #X connect 10 0 9 0; #X connect 11 0 15 1; #X connect 12 0 14 0; #X connect 13 0 14 0; #X connect 14 0 7 0; #X connect 14 0 15 0; #X connect 16 0 14 0; #X connect 17 0 14 0; #X connect 18 0 9 0; #X connect 19 0 14 0; #X connect 20 0 2 0; #X connect 21 0 2 0; #X connect 22 0 2 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GSOC 2010?
google are located in a totally unfriendly city where i've been working ( the incredible truth ) apart from their will to control all of us, and sell their poison i would say : sell chewing gums to the pinguins, godgle ... did i say GODgle?, oops a mistake sevy Dan Wilcox wrote: Is there any interest in pushing for Google Summer of Code 2010? Pd should be sponsored over the plethora of lame open source games. Dan Wilcox danomatika.com http://danomatika.com robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem fullscreen question
offset and dimen work fine on my intel as well: lspci 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) However I prefer to use border message rather than fullscreen because fullscreen just hijacks my X. Perhaps this behaviour is specific to my GFX controller. ./MiS On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: I just use offset and dimen with 9.04 Have at least ATI or Nvidia though pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Andrew Faraday Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:39 PM To: f...@mur.at; de...@umatic.nl Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] gem fullscreen question I've been looking into something similar. If I'm using a projector alongside a laptop (on 9.04) is it possible to put Gem full screen on the second screen? Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 20:00:46 +0100 From: f...@mur.at To: de...@umatic.nl CC: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] gem fullscreen question thanks Derek!.- As you said, [key] always caused problems.- [gemkeyname] works great with the GEM window.- fraenk Derek Holzer schrieb: I guess you don't have the option of a second monitor for your [gemwin]? I noticed that [key] doesn't work when the [gemwin] is fullscreen, but if you use [gemkeyname] or [gemkeyboard] you can trigger a destroy message to the [gemwin]. You can combine messages and use a [t b b] so that first bang sends the 0, destroy message to [gemwin] and the second bang sends a message like dimen 320 240, create, 1. Best, D. On 3/4/10 7:23 PM, Fränk Zimmer wrote: Dear friends of Pd, my be this is a very stupid question.- I?m working on an installation work and the GEM window should run in fullscreen mode. A beamer is connected to my PC VGA.- How do I switch from fullscreen back to my Pd patch? I`m on Ubuntu 9.04.- -- Fränk Zimmer visit: http://fz.mur.at ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] analysis before synthesis: How?
Hi, You might also want to chek the pd doc about fft operations examples in pd\doc\audio.examples\ namely I04.noisegate.pd for filtering the noise and I03.resynthesis.pd to reconstruct your signal. (but all the I section is loosely relevant) You'll then be able to experiment and build from these. hth, greetings, p. meino.cra...@gmx.de a écrit : Hi, this is more a general question: I have a piece of sound (sorry, English is not my mothers tonque...) which conatins beside background noise a scifi-sound, which I want to synthezise (synthesise?) with puredata as close to the original as possible -- without the background. Now I am looking for recipe to do such a thing -- without the need of a supercomputer and without the deep deep knowledge of really deep math. Is there a way to supress the backgroudn as much as possible? Would it be make sense to make a fourier analysis with a tool (what tool -- I am using puredata on Gentoo-Linux)? Are there others tool, which would help me to solve this task? Any idea and help are very appreciated -- thanks a lot in advance! best regards and have a nice sunday! mcc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list