Re: [PD] dealing with large numbers (for rjdj)
On 2010-04-11 19:07, duncan speakman wrote: hi, i'm trying to use the gps object in Pd as part of an RjDj scene and their forum is down at the moment so i thought i'd look for help here... so pd has a limit on the size of numbers it can use and i'm looking well, Pd has no such limit. it's your computer that has. (Pd could use higher precision maths though, which it currently doesn't) for a simple way to break them down, (as i'm using RjDj i have to use the vanilla pd so no extra object fun). The GPS object apparently sends out numbers to 6 decimal places, (e.g. 51.430023) which keeps causing problems in other parts of the patch. I have tried removing the integer before the point and multiplying by 1 to give me something manageable. In the above example I would expect to get 4300.23 but instead i get something like 4300.23, where are these extra numbers coming from? most likely they come from floating point numbesr and 2^n representations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_point #Representable_numbers.2C_conversion_and_rounding however, i don't see any particular problem with the extra numbers you get mfgasdr IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Lithuanian symbol on canvas label or text2d
On 2010-04-11 23:24, Gintaras Lau. wrote: Dear list, a problem I have encountered is my native language symbols like: ą,č,ę,ė,į,š,ų,ū. I use Alt+Shift keys to change layout. While typing I get symbols like font webding. As I started to enter text from the textfile (instead of typing to message flag) it seems to be all right to set canvas label but not for text2d on GEM window, where I get squares instead of those symbols. I tried font like Times New Roman witch works fine for Open Office, but maybe there are other issues that cause this. Thanks for any issue related information. #1 don't use [text2d] if you don't know why (that's a just in case disclaimer) #2 [text3d] and friends will take the unicode points (!) with the string message. e.g. string 371 should display ų (if i read the letter correctly as latin small capital letter u with ogonek which is unicode 371) (and if your font has this character) using the string message you can at least address the first 65535 or so letters defined by unicode (probably enough for most of us). in externals/iem/unicode you will also find a UTF8-to-unicode(points) converter, if you want to read e.g. UTF-8 encoded text-files. fgmase IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dynamic normalization
Thanks Derek, that's it. I totally missed it, sorry for the noise. M On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote: [limiter~] ??? On 4/11/10 1:13 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: How can I dinamically normalize an audio output? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 54: Do something sudden, destructive and unpredictable -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [OT] linux multi-output soundcard
Hi all, I know it's OT, but I would like to get an advice from Linux Pd users. I'm about to buy a soundcard with up to 8 analog I/O for max 500euro/pounds and want it to be compatible with Linux (I mean, I would like something working out-of-the-box). I've been advised about the Terratec Phase 88 Rack.. Any other suggestion? Thanks, -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] linux multi-output soundcard
the delta 1010Lt (PCI) is even cheaper, but unbalanced outputs... and only 2 preamps. also out of the box, J On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Oli44 oliv...@heinry.fr wrote: 6 Months ago I got a second -hand M-Audio 1010 in PCI/rack format, it's jsut perfect with Debian Lenny. No phantom though, only sym jack 6.35 ++ OH Marco Donnarumma wrote: Hi all, I know it's OT, but I would like to get an advice from Linux Pd users. I'm about to buy a soundcard with up to 8 analog I/O for max 500euro/pounds and want it to be compatible with Linux (I mean, I would like something working out-of-the-box). I've been advised about the Terratec Phase 88 Rack.. Any other suggestion? Thanks, -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- oliv...@heinry.fr http://www.heinry.fr/olivier ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Jaime E Oliver LR www.jaimeoliver.pe 858 750 0924 (cel) 858 202 1522 (home) 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] linux multi-output soundcard
moin Marco, in my desktop i've got an m-audio delta 1010 lt (used from e-bay), which worked out of the box (8 unbalanced analalog i/o and midi from a cat o' 9 tails which plugs directly into the card). its big brother (delta 1010, no lt suffix) has a nice breakout box (balanced) and uses the same chipset (envy24, alsa module snd-ice1712). iirc, the terratec phase88 uses the same chipset with an unbalanced breakout box. latency was ok out of the box (don't remember the numbers right now, sorry), but i had to do some os-level tweaking to get things working to my satisfaction (realtime kernel, irq priorities, pci settings, etc - all scripted now and available on request). also, i had to comment out a few lines in the envy24control sources (dedicated mixer gui for the card) in order to stop my console from filling up with annoying warnings -- really nothing more than an annoyance; i can send you a patch if you have the same problem... if you can afford one, the rme cards are likely to be much better, but my budget didn't stretch quite that far ;-) marmosets, Bryan On 2010-04-12 14:11:41, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com appears to have written: Hi all, I know it's OT, but I would like to get an advice from Linux Pd users. I'm about to buy a soundcard with up to 8 analog I/O for max 500euro/pounds and want it to be compatible with Linux (I mean, I would like something working out-of-the-box). I've been advised about the Terratec Phase 88 Rack.. Any other suggestion? -- Bryan Jurish There is *always* one more bug. jur...@uni-potsdam.de -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] April pd intro workshops London
on behalf of andy farnell, i would like to inform you: April Beginners Pure Data Workshops, London UK Sorry for cross posting if you receive this more than once. http://london.sae.edu/en-gb/content/69/Events_and_Workshops This Friday the 16th April and the following Friday the 23rd in London, England, I will be giving two 'free' public lectures for those who are embarking on Pure Data or audio programming related courses next semester, or those who are just Pd curious for art and hacktivism reasons. It's an open door policy at SAE London, and the $5 booking thing is merely a mechanism to manage numbers and make sure people are 'serious' if they book one of the limited seats (If you genuinely can't afford it just ask and they will waive it) April 2010 Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 * 17 18 19 20 21 22 * 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 http://london.sae.edu/en-gb/content/69/Events_and_Workshops Thankyou, Andy smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] linux multi-output soundcard
Hey, on ubuntu, I have good experience with: -echo layla 3g (8in8out,2preamps, phantom...) -m-audio delta 1010LT -m-audio delta 44 -rme hammerfall dsp + multiface, both PCI and PCMCIA (note: the output jack sockets are too close to each other, which can give you a hard time connecting more than 2 cables with 'sturdy' jacks.) all those worked pretty much out of the box bad experience with: -firewire soundcard using 'freebob' driver (I think the brand was motu, or presonus, or focusrite, one of those, I don't remember exactly...but, while it was officially supposed to work (checked alsa soundcard matrix) it didn't...) I haven't checked recently, but I still have the impression that firewire soundcards are poorly supported on linux... -m-audio delta 66 no sound, don't know the reason, is anyone using this card ? gr, Tim 2010/4/12 Bryan Jurish jur...@uni-potsdam.de moin Marco, in my desktop i've got an m-audio delta 1010 lt (used from e-bay), which worked out of the box (8 unbalanced analalog i/o and midi from a cat o' 9 tails which plugs directly into the card). its big brother (delta 1010, no lt suffix) has a nice breakout box (balanced) and uses the same chipset (envy24, alsa module snd-ice1712). iirc, the terratec phase88 uses the same chipset with an unbalanced breakout box. latency was ok out of the box (don't remember the numbers right now, sorry), but i had to do some os-level tweaking to get things working to my satisfaction (realtime kernel, irq priorities, pci settings, etc - all scripted now and available on request). also, i had to comment out a few lines in the envy24control sources (dedicated mixer gui for the card) in order to stop my console from filling up with annoying warnings -- really nothing more than an annoyance; i can send you a patch if you have the same problem... if you can afford one, the rme cards are likely to be much better, but my budget didn't stretch quite that far ;-) marmosets, Bryan On 2010-04-12 14:11:41, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com appears to have written: Hi all, I know it's OT, but I would like to get an advice from Linux Pd users. I'm about to buy a soundcard with up to 8 analog I/O for max 500euro/pounds and want it to be compatible with Linux (I mean, I would like something working out-of-the-box). I've been advised about the Terratec Phase 88 Rack.. Any other suggestion? -- Bryan Jurish There is *always* one more bug. jur...@uni-potsdam.de -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sys_gui full screen text
You need to 'raise' the window to put it in front. Try this: windowthin.pd Description: Binary data .hc On Apr 11, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Gintaras Lau. wrote: Dear list, I have created window with a commands using sys_gui: [toplevel .new( [.new configure -bg black( [wm atributes .new -fullscreen 1( | [sys_gui] I have read manuals from some sites recommended by Hans-Christoph Steiner, but commands presented there are not accepted by pd except those I wrote as message flags. My mission is to read text from text file (what I already solved) and present text on that full screen .new window. Can you replay to me a guide, syntax, or way how to make text appear on that window? Text file contains 6 short lines. How that .new window is going to interact with a gem window (also full screen, topmost) when it will be created? Thank you and Respect. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Filters...
Hi all, recently there was a discussion about the different ways of avoiding aliasing. One of these is oversampling, but as far as i know there is only one example of it in Pd help patches, and it has a phasor in the subpatch. I m assuming that i could use the Butterworth filter in the subpatch without the phasor, am i right? In this case would it make sense to use it everytime i need i low-pass filter? This is probably a very silly question... Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] linux multi-output soundcard
s'lam I haven't checked recently, but I still have the impression that firewire soundcards are poorly supported on linux... the edirols FA-66 and FA-101 are working fine .. saludos, sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Lithuanian symbol on canvas label or text2d
s'lam, you can try this : http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:ole_alexandria_workshop#side_activities_goodies sevy Gintaras Lau. wrote: Dear list, a problem I have encountered is my native language symbols like: ą,č,ę,ė,į,š,ų,ū. I use Alt+Shift keys to change layout. While typing I get symbols like font webding. As I started to enter text from the textfile (instead of typing to message flag) it seems to be all right to set canvas label but not for text2d on GEM window, where I get squares instead of those symbols. I tried font like Times New Roman witch works fine for Open Office, but maybe there are other issues that cause this. Thanks for any issue related information. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] linux multi-output soundcard
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:51 PM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote: s'lam I haven't checked recently, but I still have the impression that firewire soundcards are poorly supported on linux... the edirols FA-66 and FA-101 are working fine .. saludos, sevy I confirm, fa-101 worked perfectly for our last project! bye husk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] linux multi-output soundcard
I've also got the FA-101 and it works out of the box with the FFADO drivers even with my laptop's crappy Ricoh firewire chipset. Of course make sure you've got the RT kernel with rtirq prioritizing firewire. -martin On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 14:48 +0200, becks wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com wrote: Hi all, I know it's OT, but I would like to get an advice from Linux Pd users. I'm about to buy a soundcard with up to 8 analog I/O for max 500euro/pounds and want it to be compatible with Linux (I mean, I would like something working out-of-the-box). I've been advised about the Terratec Phase 88 Rack.. Any other suggestion? Hi Marco, i have two soundcards. * edirol fa 101 firewire, and works out of the box since old freebob driver and now with the ffado driver. (~ 250/300eu second hand). * rme multiface I pci (or pcmcia). works out of the box (300/400eu) both cards are gnu/linux ready, both are goods, but rme is better (lower latency, more stability, direct hardware routing, adat in/out) ciao ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Last days of submissions to ICMC's UnConference
Hi Pd people, ICMC 2010 is to be held on june 1st-5th in NYC http://www.icmc2010.org/ I know some of you will be there on ICMC, and even in New York, so here is a nice opportunity to send some proposals to ICMC's UnConference, it is also open to something similar as the Pd Hacking Session we had in the last Pd Convention. Extended deadline is April 15th, here'e the address to send it to: unconfere...@icmc2010.org It is also a nice opening for some informal papers to talk about personal views, ideas, manifestos, whatever. Please let me know if you have some questions... alex The UnConference will be a more informal gathering of artists, thinkers, dreamers, and other trouble makers all focused on digital technologies, electronic arts, and music. Participants will have the opportunity to share their work with peers in an informal setting. The UnConference will take place daily in the EMF offices and the Wang Center Chapel. We are looking for topics of discussion - please submit up to 1 page which will be printed in the proceedings. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] linux multi-output soundcard
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:48 PM, tim vets timv...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, on ubuntu, I have good experience with: -echo layla 3g (8in8out,2preamps, phantom...) -m-audio delta 1010LT -m-audio delta 44 -rme hammerfall dsp + multiface, both PCI and PCMCIA (note: the output jack sockets are too close to each other, which can give you a hard time connecting more than 2 cables with 'sturdy' jacks.) all those worked pretty much out of the box bad experience with: -firewire soundcard using 'freebob' driver (I think the brand was motu, or presonus, or focusrite, one of those, I don't remember exactly...but, while it was officially supposed to work (checked alsa soundcard matrix) it didn't...) I haven't checked recently, but I still have the impression that firewire soundcards are poorly supported on linux... 2 cents regarding... - Firewire: the FFADO driver which works with Jack is under active development so more cards start working - not with ALSA or PulseAudio however. They *are* sensitive to different firewire chipsets and Texas Instruments is told to be the best for them. Anyway i found the firewire connection pretty fragile because of the physical design of the firewire connectors and because if the connection gets interrupted for a fraction of a second it will fail. - MOTU: one of the best sounding cards in my experience, just don't buy one because they are extremely unreliable and their customer service is plain crap. Get an RME if you have any chance! Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Last days of submissions to ICMC's UnConference
I guess it's too much to hope that the 'UnConference' doesn't come with the same extortionate registration cost of the actual 'Conference'? I won't hold my breath.. On 12 April 2010 17:38, Alexandre Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pd people, ICMC 2010 is to be held on june 1st-5th in NYC http://www.icmc2010.org/ I know some of you will be there on ICMC, and even in New York, so here is a nice opportunity to send some proposals to ICMC's UnConference, it is also open to something similar as the Pd Hacking Session we had in the last Pd Convention. Extended deadline is April 15th, here ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] linux multi-output soundcard
Cool, thanks everybody for the comprehensive and useful information! cheers, Marco On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:51 PM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote: s'lam I haven't checked recently, but I still have the impression that firewire soundcards are poorly supported on linux... the edirols FA-66 and FA-101 are working fine .. saludos, sevy I confirm, fa-101 worked perfectly for our last project! bye husk -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] make pix_opencv
Dear list, There are many step by step sites to add repositories, externals, libraries and do other configuration. But what usually drops me down is that magic word make. Where could be the important points to understand and finish every make process my self? Why lot's of make files are bad for my computer but, perhaps works fine for others? Do I necessarily need to learn C++ to prepare pd work properly and have all libraries for my needs and make, make, make ? What is wrong this time? (see terminal output) Thanks for help and time you take for it. :~/Downloads/pix_opencv$ ./configure checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for working aclocal... found checking for working autoconf... found checking for working automake... found checking for working autoheader... found checking for working makeinfo... found rm -f pix_opencv*.o rm -f pix_opencv*.pd_linux i686-pc-linux-gnu checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed checking for strerror in -lcposix... no checking for gcc... (cached) gcc checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... (cached) none needed checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... (cached) yes checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no checking if malloc debugging is wanted... no looking for pd sources (required) ... pd source tree not found... install it and use the --with-pd=path configuration option. :~/Downloads/pix_opencv$ make clean rm -f pix_opencv*.o rm -f pix_opencv*.pd_linux :~/Downloads/pix_opencv$ make g++ -fPIC -DPD -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -Wall -W -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -DGEM_OPENCV_VERSION=\0.2\ -g -DLINUX -I/usr/local/pd/src -I. -I/usr/local/pd/gem/src -I/usr/local/pd/src `pkg-config --cflags opencv` -o pix_opencv_edge.o -c pix_opencv_edge.cc In file included from pix_opencv_edge.cc:18: pix_opencv_edge.h:27:28: error: Base/GemPixObj.h: No such file or directory In file included from pix_opencv_edge.cc:18: pix_opencv_edge.h:42: error: expected initializer before ‘:’ token pix_opencv_edge.cc:20: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before ‘(’ token pix_opencv_edge.cc:49: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before ‘::’ token pix_opencv_edge.cc:64: error: ‘pix_opencv_edge’ has not been declared pix_opencv_edge.cc:64: error: variable or field ‘processRGBAImage’ declared void pix_opencv_edge.cc:64: error: ‘imageStruct’ was not declared in this scope pix_opencv_edge.cc:64: error: ‘image’ was not declared in this scope make: *** [pix_opencv_edge.o] Error 1 :~/Downloads/pix_opencv$ sudo make [sudo] password for hipis: g++ -fPIC -DPD -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -Wall -W -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -DGEM_OPENCV_VERSION=\0.2\ -g -DLINUX -I/usr/local/pd/src -I. -I/usr/local/pd/gem/src -I/usr/local/pd/src `pkg-config --cflags opencv` -o pix_opencv_edge.o -c pix_opencv_edge.cc In file included from pix_opencv_edge.cc:18: pix_opencv_edge.h:27:28: error: Base/GemPixObj.h: No such file or directory In file included from pix_opencv_edge.cc:18: pix_opencv_edge.h:42: error: expected initializer before ‘:’ token pix_opencv_edge.cc:20: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before ‘(’ token pix_opencv_edge.cc:49: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before ‘::’ token pix_opencv_edge.cc:64: error: ‘pix_opencv_edge’ has not been declared pix_opencv_edge.cc:64: error: variable or field ‘processRGBAImage’ declared void pix_opencv_edge.cc:64: error: ‘imageStruct’ was not declared in this scope pix_opencv_edge.cc:64: error: ‘image’ was not declared in this scope make: *** [pix_opencv_edge.o] Error 1 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sys_gui full screen text
That works fine, thank you. The first part of my question was to place symbols on that window. Can you help to achieve that. Is that something like: [text( | [something $1( | [sys_gui] Thank you 2010/4/12 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: You need to 'raise' the window to put it in front. Try this: .hc On Apr 11, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Gintaras Lau. wrote: Dear list, I have created window with a commands using sys_gui: [toplevel .new( [.new configure -bg black( [wm atributes .new -fullscreen 1( | [sys_gui] I have read manuals from some sites recommended by Hans-Christoph Steiner, but commands presented there are not accepted by pd except those I wrote as message flags. My mission is to read text from text file (what I already solved) and present text on that full screen .new window. Can you replay to me a guide, syntax, or way how to make text appear on that window? Text file contains 6 short lines. How that .new window is going to interact with a gem window (also full screen, topmost) when it will be created? Thank you and Respect. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] (no subject)
Hey All I've recently been looking at possibilities for networked performance with pd. So far I've found that [netsend] and [netrecieve] only seem to take numeric data (I.E. no symbols or bangs). This might be the result of the abstraction I'm using (made by one of my workshoppers) which sends messages with through a message box [send chan1 $1(, [send chan2 $1( etc. I've solved the bangs problem by sending a number repeatedly and having a [sel] at the receiving end. However I am interested in using netsend as a basic messaging system (to conduct a laptop group by typing from a central machine). _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] (no subject)
netsend and netreceive can send any type of message. You should look into OSC for your needs. In a related question, what is the difference between netsend and sendOSC? Can netsend and netreceive be used for OSC? Paulo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] (no subject)
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 19:50 +0100, Andrew Faraday wrote: I've recently been looking at possibilities for networked performance with pd. So far I've found that [netsend] and [netrecieve] only seem to take numeric data (I.E. no symbols or bangs). This might be the result of the abstraction I'm using (made by one of my workshoppers) which sends messages with through a message box [send chan1 $1(, [send chan2 $1( etc. I've solved the bangs problem by sending a number repeatedly and having a [sel] at the receiving end. However I am interested in using netsend as a basic messaging system (to conduct a laptop group by typing from a central machine). this lets you send whatever you want: [list prepend send] | [list trim] | [netsend] Using [netclient] and [netserver] from maxlib instead of the native [netsend] and [netreceive] might make the implementation of one-to-many or many-to-one setups easier. I often found myself using something like this in order to easily send messages from any client to all others: - on the client side (multiple instances) - [list prepend send] | [list trim] | [netclient] - on the server - [r broadcast] | [list prepend broadcast] | [list trim] | [netserver ] | [list] | [s broadcast] Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] (no subject)
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.comwrote: Hey All I've recently been looking at possibilities for networked performance with pd. So far I've found that [netsend] and [netrecieve] only seem to take numeric data (I.E. no symbols or bangs). This might be the result of the abstraction I'm using (made by one of my workshoppers) which sends messages with through a message box [send chan1 $1(, [send chan2 $1( etc. I've solved the bangs problem by sending a number repeatedly and having a [sel] at the receiving end. However I am interested in using netsend as a basic messaging system (to conduct a laptop group by typing from a central machine). take a look into http://www.netpd.org/ ? Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] (no subject)
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 16:11 -0300, Paulo Casaes wrote: netsend and netreceive can send any type of message. You should look into OSC for your needs. In a related question, what is the difference between netsend and sendOSC? Can netsend and netreceive be used for OSC? No. They use a different protocol: [netsend] uses FUDI [1] and [sendOSC] uses OSC [2] (over UDP?). From what I know, the OSCx externals aren't really maintained anymore. It's recommended to use the mrpeach versions ([packOSC], [unpackOSC], [routeOSC]). [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUDI [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Sound_Control Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sys_gui full screen text
Yeah, should be possible, but a bit weird, since you'll be writing Tcl
via Pd. It might be easier to write a separate Tcl script that does
what you want it to, then load it using the Tcl 'source' command sent
to [sys_gui].
so you could make your own Tcl proc like:
proc displaytext {x y args} {
# code here to place the text in $args at ($x, $y)
}
Then invoke it using [sys_gui]
[ displaytext 25 100 this is the text to display(
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[sys_gui]
.hc
On Apr 12, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Gintaras Lau. wrote:
That works fine, thank you.
The first part of my question was to place symbols on that window. Can
you help to achieve that.
Is that something like:
[text(
|
[something $1(
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[sys_gui]
Thank you
2010/4/12 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
You need to 'raise' the window to put it in front. Try this:
.hc
On Apr 11, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Gintaras Lau. wrote:
Dear list,
I have created window with a commands using sys_gui:
[toplevel .new(
[.new configure -bg black(
[wm atributes .new -fullscreen 1(
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[sys_gui]
I have read manuals from some sites recommended by Hans-Christoph
Steiner, but commands presented there are not accepted by pd except
those I wrote as message flags.
My mission is to read text from text file (what I already solved)
and
present text on that full screen .new window.
Can you replay to me a guide, syntax, or way how to make text appear
on that window? Text file contains 6 short lines.
How that .new window is going to interact with a gem window (also
full
screen, topmost) when it will be created?
Thank you and Respect.
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Re: [PD] Filters...
The frequency components introduced by aliasing cannot be removed (at least not by low-pass filtering) once introduced, and this happens at the level of signal generation, not at the interface to the dac. Since it is the phasor which is actually aliasing, it needs to be antialiased with a low pass filter before it continues on the a lower sampling rate. So the signal source and the filter need to be in the same upsampled subpatch. Best! D. On 4/12/10 5:49 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi all, recently there was a discussion about the different ways of avoiding aliasing. One of these is oversampling, but as far as i know there is only one example of it in Pd help patches, and it has a phasor in the subpatch. I m assuming that i could use the Butterworth filter in the subpatch without the phasor, am i right? In this case would it make sense to use it everytime i need i low-pass filter? This is probably a very silly question... = -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 45: Disciplined self-indulgence ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Filters...
Sorry, the only solutions I've ever known is to antialias the signal sources by low-pass filtering them before they reach a sampling rate where they could alias, or by using band-limited signal sources in some way or another. Once the aliased frequencies are in, it's pretty near impossible to get them out. Best! D. On 4/12/10 11:10 PM, bra...@subnet.at wrote: dear derek, dear list is there any possiblity to make an antialaising for the dac output of a mixed signal? thanks in advance der.brandt Zitat von Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl: The frequency components introduced by aliasing cannot be removed (at least not by low-pass filtering) once introduced, and this happens at the level of signal generation, not at the interface to the dac. Since it is the phasor which is actually aliasing, it needs to be antialiased with a low pass filter before it continues on the a lower sampling rate. So the signal source and the filter need to be in the same upsampled subpatch. Best! D. On 4/12/10 5:49 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi all, recently there was a discussion about the different ways of avoiding aliasing. One of these is oversampling, but as far as i know there is only one example of it in Pd help patches, and it has a phasor in the subpatch. I m assuming that i could use the Butterworth filter in the subpatch without the phasor, am i right? In this case would it make sense to use it everytime i need i low-pass filter? This is probably a very silly question... = -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 45: Disciplined self-indulgence ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 60: Don't be afraid of things because they're easy to do ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Filters...
The simple but expensive answer: just oversample your entire patch!!! ;-) D. On 4/12/10 11:10 PM, bra...@subnet.at wrote: dear derek, dear list is there any possiblity to make an antialaising for the dac output of a mixed signal? thanks in advance der.brandt Zitat von Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl: The frequency components introduced by aliasing cannot be removed (at least not by low-pass filtering) once introduced, and this happens at the level of signal generation, not at the interface to the dac. Since it is the phasor which is actually aliasing, it needs to be antialiased with a low pass filter before it continues on the a lower sampling rate. So the signal source and the filter need to be in the same upsampled subpatch. Best! D. On 4/12/10 5:49 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi all, recently there was a discussion about the different ways of avoiding aliasing. One of these is oversampling, but as far as i know there is only one example of it in Pd help patches, and it has a phasor in the subpatch. I m assuming that i could use the Butterworth filter in the subpatch without the phasor, am i right? In this case would it make sense to use it everytime i need i low-pass filter? This is probably a very silly question... = -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 45: Disciplined self-indulgence ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 55: Do the last thing first ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Filters...
dear derek, dear list is there any possiblity to make an antialaising for the dac output of a mixed signal? thanks in advance der.brandt Zitat von Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl: The frequency components introduced by aliasing cannot be removed (at least not by low-pass filtering) once introduced, and this happens at the level of signal generation, not at the interface to the dac. Since it is the phasor which is actually aliasing, it needs to be antialiased with a low pass filter before it continues on the a lower sampling rate. So the signal source and the filter need to be in the same upsampled subpatch. Best! D. On 4/12/10 5:49 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi all, recently there was a discussion about the different ways of avoiding aliasing. One of these is oversampling, but as far as i know there is only one example of it in Pd help patches, and it has a phasor in the subpatch. I m assuming that i could use the Butterworth filter in the subpatch without the phasor, am i right? In this case would it make sense to use it everytime i need i low-pass filter? This is probably a very silly question... = -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 45: Disciplined self-indulgence ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM: abnormal performance difference PC/Mac?
I've tried PNG and JPEG codecs. Png gives no significant performance improvement over Animation, and Jpeg is even worse. Now strangely enough I've found out (well a mac-owner friend of mine has found out actually) that closing and reopening the gemwin once before starting, results in a great performance increase. Isn't that crazy? I am opening the gemwin at loadbang, may that be related? However even after that, the performance is still hugely inferior to that of the Pc notebook with a comparable processor. chris clepper escribió: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com mailto:matteosistise...@gmail.com wrote: That's interesting. I compared two notebooks, PC and Mac. Is it possible that the performance of a MacBook Pro notebook drive is much worse than that of an Asus notebook? Since you have the two computers in question, you will have to test for yourself. All of the responses so far have been 100% speculation since no one else has the machines. You have been given some things to investigate, so try those out. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] use tablet and usb keyboard with [hid]?
Hey all, So maybe I'm going at this the wrong way, but I'm trying to get puredata to recognize my usb keyboard and my aiptek tablet. since i just learned how to use my logitech gamepad via [hid] i figured I'd try and use [hid] to connect those, but they aren't recognized. if not [hid] what should i be using... is there something I have to fix with udev or make some new rules? dmesg for tablet [ 2738.642297] usb 3-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 [ 2738.814269] usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 2741.696119] aiptek 3-1:1.0: Aiptek using 400 ms programming speed [ 2741.696377] input: Aiptek as /devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0/input/input12 [ 2741.696792] usbcore: registered new interface driver aiptek [ 2741.696801] aiptek: v2.3 (May 2, 2007):Aiptek HyperPen USB Tablet Driver (Linux 2.6.x) [ 2741.696806] aiptek: Bryan W. Headley/Chris Atenasio/Cedric Brun/Rene van Paassen [ 2741.774335] usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev [ 2741.774384] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid [ 2741.774390] usbhid: v2.6:USB HID core driver dmesg for the keyboard [ 2762.632034] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 [ 2762.810267] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 2762.818379] input: Dell Dell Smart Card Reader Keyboard as /devices/pci:00/:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/input/input13 [ 2762.818566] generic-usb 0003:413C:2101.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Keyboard [Dell Dell Smart Card Reader Keyboard] on usb-:00:1d.0-1/input0 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] use tablet and usb keyboard with [hid]?
You have to have the permissions setup correctly in order to read the device. Check the archives of this list and the pdpedia page for [hid]: http://wiki.puredata.info/en/hid .hc On Apr 12, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Tyler Leavitt wrote: Hey all, So maybe I'm going at this the wrong way, but I'm trying to get puredata to recognize my usb keyboard and my aiptek tablet. since i just learned how to use my logitech gamepad via [hid] i figured I'd try and use [hid] to connect those, but they aren't recognized. if not [hid] what should i be using... is there something I have to fix with udev or make some new rules? dmesg for tablet [ 2738.642297] usb 3-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 [ 2738.814269] usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 2741.696119] aiptek 3-1:1.0: Aiptek using 400 ms programming speed [ 2741.696377] input: Aiptek as /devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/ usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0/input/input12 [ 2741.696792] usbcore: registered new interface driver aiptek [ 2741.696801] aiptek: v2.3 (May 2, 2007):Aiptek HyperPen USB Tablet Driver (Linux 2.6.x) [ 2741.696806] aiptek: Bryan W. Headley/Chris Atenasio/Cedric Brun/ Rene van Paassen [ 2741.774335] usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev [ 2741.774384] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid [ 2741.774390] usbhid: v2.6:USB HID core driver dmesg for the keyboard [ 2762.632034] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 [ 2762.810267] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 2762.818379] input: Dell Dell Smart Card Reader Keyboard as / devices/pci:00/:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/input/input13 [ 2762.818566] generic-usb 0003:413C:2101.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Keyboard [Dell Dell Smart Card Reader Keyboard] on usb-:00:1d.0-1/input0 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
