Re: [PD] audio problem on OSX with a particular mixer
briefly tried the Pd-0.42.5-extended-20100421 build last night and it seemed to work ok with core audio under 10.6.3. thanks! rene On Apr 13, 2010, at 19:29, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: There were audio issues with 10.6, try a recent nightly build of Pd-extended 0.42.5: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc On Mar 18, 2010, at 3:53 PM, rene beekman wrote: i'm running into a strange problem with a particular mixer, a behringer dx626. I've got the headphones/lineout of my intel macbook (running os 10.6.2) connected to one of the line-ins on the mixer. audio playback through the mixer works fine from itunes or from the finder. when i switch to pd, however, audio keeps switching on and off at a rate of about 2 or 3 times a second. i've tried fiddling with the Pd settings to solve this, but have not been able to find a solution so far. i'm using portaudio, sampling rate 44100, delay 50ms, no callbacks, input and output devices are set to built-in mic output. changing any of these settings does not make any difference. tonight i installed jack and this did solve the problem. while i'm glad i've found a solution, i hate not understanding why it works anyone any suggestions or pointers? :) thanks rene ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gui devel idea: kiosk mode
i think it's probably better to do this via a msg so basically there would be commands like: gui-hide-menu gui-hide-scrollbar gui-hide- ... gui-canvas-fullscreen gui-hide-decortion I would second that. just embedded in normal pd programming. Provided this fullscreen feature, (how) do want to be able to scroll the canvas? I suppose we just keep the scrollbars...? it's possible to scroll without scrollbars - you just have to know yourself that there's something there. I would say that optional scrollbars (such as optionall everything) lends to more possibilities. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] margins
I didnt want it to do anything really, just wanted to know what it did... what about those unit pixels thing? when the canvas is not gopped? cheers it basically sets the resolution of the gop. you notice it if you use data structures. or even: create an array, and open the graphical subpatch. draw a wave, and try around different values. (also for any other fields) with donecanvasdialog, I use these to change the zoom of my data-s patches, etc. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Orange : Amp+PC
Anbody heard about this? Are they the first to launch this kind of amp? It looks cool, although i suppose it'll be quite expensive. I wonder how good the soundcard is. http://www.orangeamps.com/features.asp?ID=163 Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] VJ tools using pure data on Mac
hi didit, if you haven't already, you should have a look on www.vjforums.com : it's a huge english-speaking worldwide community where you're likely to find people with various VJ softwares experiences, and there must be some info about pd patches for mac, I'm pretty sure about it... good luck ! let us know what you find... -[eM Tv]- -| http://vjeMTv.net |- -| vjing ¤ live ¤ mix |- 2010/4/22 Adityo Pratomo quietdi...@gmail.com Hi all, I've been looking for a nice VJ tool on Mac. Been trying the resolume, but sadly my graphic card couldn't handle it. So, I've seen the pdvjtools and qeve patches made from Pd, but sadly this is for Linux only. So, is there any patch that I can use to do some VJ practice? Thanks and Regards, Didit ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] using routeOSC with dollar creation arguments
Hi, I'm trying to create an abstraction that contains routeOSC and I want to pass a creation argument of the abstraction as creation argument of routeOSC, that is simply: [routeOSC $3] Now the problem is that the object doesn't create because of this error: error: * routeOSC: float arguments are not OK. because when you are editing the abstraction as a patch, $3 evaluates to 0 (i guess). Obviously I'm gonna use my abstraction with symbols as the $3 argument. Indeed if I do, the object will create. But since it doesn't when creating the abstraction, I cannot do the connections. That relates to a more general problem that is how $-arguments are managed when you define an abstraction, since there is no distinction in Pd between defining an abstraction and creating a patch that is not gonna be used as an abstraction. In an ideal world, such a distinction should exist imho. However usually this issue only prevents the abstraction from working properly when you edit/define it, and you wouldn't expect it to work; but it usually doesn't prevent you from creating it so that you can later use it. Basically, if an object can accept a symbol as a creation argument (and only a symbol), it is an error to fail to create the object if the argument is not a symbol. Instead, the object should create as if the argument was a symbol, with the number of inlets and outlets that it would have if the argument was a symbol, _and_ print an error message and refuse to work, but not to create. Now in this case there is a workaround: [loadbang] | [symbol $3] | [set $1( | [routeOSC /dummysymbol] Note that [symbol $3] is an example of object that behaves correctly the way [routeOSC $3] should. When you are editing the abstraction, $3 is 0, so [symbol $3] is just like [symbol 0]. Such [symbol 0] is not OK and you don't expect it to work: if you bang it, it outputs symbol: [symbol] is not supposed to be created with a numeric argument. However, it doesn't fail to create. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ubuntu on mac no audio pd
ej josé check if your speakers are not muted by default - open alsamixer check if there's an MM on your Speaker or Master slider unmute them by pressing the 'm' key. salutis ø Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Thank to all mac intel dont have sound, i dont even try... i comment the results, thanks a lot to this great community... Best regards José 2010/4/22 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu mailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu I have ubunutu on my mac and I had to tweak the sound settings quite a bit. Are you sure there is NO sound or very very faint sound? pp *From:* pd-list-boun...@iem.at mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] *On Behalf Of *Ricardo Lameiro *Sent:* Thursday, April 22, 2010 5:32 PM *To:* Ariane stolfi *Cc:* PD List; Roman Haefeli *Subject:* Re: [PD] ubuntu on mac no audio pd and after that you can look into this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation It may help you. and also, AFAIK you can instal the package ubuntustudio controls to help you to set some configurations. 2010/4/22 Ariane stolfi arianesto...@gmail.com mailto:arianesto...@gmail.com hi, I don't know if you had followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Intel_iMac#Sound for imac https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryMac for other macs they have steps to get mostly of your hardware working a 2010/4/22 Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de mailto:reduzie...@yahoo.de On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 20:04 +0200, András Murányi wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com mailto:santorcuat...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list: hello to everybodyi have a problem, in the university i request about a second partition with ubuntu 9.04 for working with pd, they use a mac intel intel core 2 duo, desktop line, i installed pd and work, but the sound no...in all the system. Any idea or command in terminal? dependences? pulse audio Thanks a lot José Pulseaudio is... err, a mess, imho. Go for jack - install jackd and qjackctl if needed. It will most likely work, or if not, it will give you detailed error messages Just for the sake of completeness (I personally also prefer the jack way): $ pasuspender pd This way you can have direct access to the audio hardware, which is otherwise occupied by pulseaudio. Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://www.chilemigra.cl http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ETs DNA will not be televised http://hasa-labs.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 61, Issue 116
I had such a problem (ubuntu 9.04) the simplest solution in my case was to disable Pulseaudio and use ALSA only. With this tutorial is quite straight forward: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/ubuntu-904-jaunty-keeping-the-beast-pulseaudio-at-bay/ Dear list: hello to everybodyi have a problem, in the university i request about a second partition with ubuntu 9.04 for working with pd, they use a mac intel intel core 2 duo, desktop line, i installed pd and work, but the sound no...in all the system. Any idea or command in terminal? dependences? pulse audio Thanks a lot Jos? -- http://www.chilemigra.cl http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20100422/aa65851c/attachment.htm -- -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gui devel idea: kiosk mode
i think it's probably better to do this via a msg so basically there would be commands like: gui-hide-menu gui-hide-scrollbar gui-hide- ... gui-canvas-fullscreen gui-hide-decortion I would second that. just embedded in normal pd programming. Provided this fullscreen feature, (how) do want to be able to scroll the canvas? I suppose we just keep the scrollbars...? Ok I thought I'd share this anyway and I think it fits well here. What I've lately been experimenting with is using GEM for 'gui'... and of course gem can go full screen... Some of the ideas so fare here: http://lorenzosu.altervista.org/pd/gem%20gui/ Lorenzo. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Golden Shield Music
Hi folks, (sorry for cross-posting) I'd like to share with you my latest (Pure Data-based) work. Golden Shield Music is a multi-channel generative sound installation for censored Internet Protocol (IP) addresses. Detailed informations (including an audio excerpt) can be viewed at http://marcodonnarumma.com/works/golden-shield-music/. Following a proposal by Greg J. Smith, chief editor at Vague Terrain, I wrote a project brief for the journal: http://vagueterrain.net/content/2010/04/golden-shield-music Would love to hear feedbacks from the community. I'll be at Pikslaverk in May to exhibit the piece and present a talk about the project. I know someone of the list will be there too, looking forward to meet you. M -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] bug in maxlib/scale
Hi, I think I found a bug in maxlib/scale. Unless the order of the parameters is aligned - smaller value as smaller input/output and bigger value for input/output -, the external doesn't work properly. Is this normal or desired? I always thought that the parameter order would be interchangeable without problems. Here's a patch to illustrate it: João Pais -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp bug maxlib.pd Description: application/puredata ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] bug in maxlib/scale
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 13:12 +0300, João Pais wrote: Hi, I think I found a bug in maxlib/scale. Unless the order of the parameters is aligned - smaller value as smaller input/output and bigger value for input/output -, the external doesn't work properly. Is this normal or desired? I always thought that the parameter order would be interchangeable without problems. Here's a patch to illustrate it: Indeed, very wrong. Unfortunately, from what I know maxlib is not maintained anymore by its original author (probably it can be considered 'community-maintained'). And since this can be nicely written as an abstraction, I'd say that the buggy external version should be avoided. Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] bug in maxlib/scale
is the formula somewhere? I found a parcial one by frank, but didn't really work. and now I'm too busy to be chasing this. On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 13:12 +0300, João Pais wrote: Hi, I think I found a bug in maxlib/scale. Unless the order of the parameters is aligned - smaller value as smaller input/output and bigger value for input/output -, the external doesn't work properly. Is this normal or desired? I always thought that the parameter order would be interchangeable without problems. Here's a patch to illustrate it: Indeed, very wrong. Unfortunately, from what I know maxlib is not maintained anymore by its original author (probably it can be considered 'community-maintained'). And since this can be nicely written as an abstraction, I'd say that the buggy external version should be avoided. Roman -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] sourceforge access of the evil!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 in order to allow all our friends from so called rogue states to enjoy the full power and glory of Pd (-extended and so on), i have dropped the export restrictions automatically imposed by SourceForge. happy patching fgmasdr IOhannes PS: this restriction was introduced by SF just recently; since (afaik) Pd(X,...) doesn't use any technology that falls under rogue laws, there is no reason whatsoever to restrict -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkvRnrAACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvS7NQCgyYKLg5AD+p8JqxpOhGE+diPU Qi0AnAyU1uvAZbmJqLPxzQO0UKlEKc/+ =m8r4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gui devel idea: kiosk mode
Oh, i've been looking for this kid of thing for a while! the only problem is that i still haven't got GEM installed ..(( i should sort it out :%) On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:12:04PM +0200, Lorenzo wrote: Ok I thought I'd share this anyway and I think it fits well here. What I've lately been experimenting with is using GEM for 'gui'... and of course gem can go full screen... Some of the ideas so fare here: http://lorenzosu.altervista.org/pd/gem%20gui/ Lorenzo. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] puredata_gui_design
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 01:43:19PM +0200, Andre Osku Schmidt wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 11:29 +0100, errordevelo...@gmail.com wrote: well ..SVG could be nice, but i haven't yet figure how to do it in QT in nice a streight forward way. but there some really nice svg widget example on the Nokia's website :) you mean these ? http://qt.nokia.com/developer/embedded-widget-demos yes, that would be nice. but the last time i looked i couldn't figure out neither how to do own svg widgets. but im no coder anyway ;) yeah ..me neither ..i need to learn the qt svg stuff ..)) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sourceforge access of the evil!
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: in order to allow all our friends from so called rogue states to enjoy the full power and glory of Pd (-extended and so on), i have dropped the export restrictions automatically imposed by SourceForge. Be very grateful that the block-list had not confused Syria and Styria. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] puredata_gui_design
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 04:53:46PM +0200, Jordi Sala wrote: All it's ok! The problem with the .h file was that make creates a link to the original .h file, but the path is absolute, so it targets to your home in your computer. i knew this one :) bloody typical! Now I have installed some missed libraries in my qtcreator, and it connects to the pd perfect. I'm going to do some test,... that's excellent! :)) very happy to hear this :) you see the thing with qt is that it's extreamly portable! i bet we can run this on N900 and symbian nokias as well and any other os/arch where qt had been ported to! i still didn't figure qt-embedded ..then we can use DirectFB (i.e. fullscreen GUI without Xserver!! and with driver that uses the graphics adapter with some accelleration capabilities too) i got qt-embedded installed but still didn't manage to run the demo apps ;( also getting OpenGL widgets could be really nice .. because i found the QT sliders and all that stuff quite limiting in terms how BORING the GUI could look like if you have a whole lot of these things ..( and at some point it doesn't even fit on the screen 17 screen ..very sad :((( On 23 April 2010 15:27, errordevelo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 01:43:19PM +0200, Andre Osku Schmidt wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 11:29 +0100, errordevelo...@gmail.com wrote: well ..SVG could be nice, but i haven't yet figure how to do it in QT in nice a streight forward way. but there some really nice svg widget example on the Nokia's website :) you mean these ? http://qt.nokia.com/developer/embedded-widget-demos yes, that would be nice. but the last time i looked i couldn't figure out neither how to do own svg widgets. but im no coder anyway ;) yeah ..me neither ..i need to learn the qt svg stuff ..)) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Jordi Sala http://musa.poperbu.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sourceforge access of the evil!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: in order to allow all our friends from so called rogue states to enjoy the full power and glory of Pd (-extended and so on), i have dropped the export restrictions automatically imposed by SourceForge. Be very grateful that the block-list had not confused Syria and Styria. right. just imagine: being part of the access of evil, i would even have been so restricted as to not being able to lift the restrictions. fmadsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkvRvGUACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvR8XACcCXtEQevghSwQZ0CE2YFUNKWA 1scAoMLzO3Yr4OW/ErVDQSQJuuyTXUHA =SFAw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sourceforge access of the evil!
On Apr 23, 2010, at 11:27 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: in order to allow all our friends from so called rogue states to enjoy the full power and glory of Pd (-extended and so on), i have dropped the export restrictions automatically imposed by SourceForge. Be very grateful that the block-list had not confused Syria and Styria. right. just imagine: being part of the access of evil, i would even have been so restricted as to not being able to lift the restrictions. As an American, I am required to fear what might happen if the rouge states got a hold of Pd. .hc I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gui devel idea: kiosk mode
Is it possible to make these messages that can be sent to a canvas? That's already the way one changes settings of a canvas (editmode, clear, donecanvasdialog, etc.) Also, that way you could have a patch my-kiosk-thingy.pd, and when you open it you could have all kinds of initialization settings, and a subpatch [pd gui]. When you get all the init values set you can send [fullscreen 1( -- [s pd-gui] . Then you don't need to make a new object [gui]. -Jonathan --- On Thu, 4/22/10, errordevelo...@gmail.com errordevelo...@gmail.com wrote: From: errordevelo...@gmail.com errordevelo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] gui devel idea: kiosk mode To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 11:51 PM i think it's probably better to do this via a msg so basically there would be commands like: gui-hide-menu gui-hide-scrollbar gui-hide- ... gui-canvas-fullscreen gui-hide-decortion so basically you can put this into a subpatch and loadbang whichever one you need ;) may it's better to implement this via gui object which you would send msgs to .. [hide-canvas( | | [gui] or we do this kind of stylie: [; pd-gui command( ? i'm not sure which way is more practical .. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 09:57:51PM +0200, András Murányi wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:01 PM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, just had a thought for a gui development: a runtime mode, feasible for demos or finished applications where the user only gets presented with the finished program, and no menus. In opera it's called kiosk mode ( http://www.opera.com/support/mastering/kiosk/): all the menus are hidden, and the user should only interact with the program. It doesn't have to go as far as opera's mode (and disable key shortcuts), but if it's not complicated, a presentation mode could be nice for patch showcase, finished performance patches or tools, ... As far as I imagine, some simple options might be enough: - hide menus - hide window lane - hide borders - fullscreen mode Best, João Sounds good! Seems this is not supported in Tcl/Tk 8.3 but from 8.4 up it is. Which, according to current 'policy', predestines it to be a plugin (?), actually a very simple one. Shall be bind to F11! Provided this fullscreen feature, (how) do want to be able to scroll the canvas? I suppose we just keep the scrollbars...? Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gui devel idea: kiosk mode
Since this would involve the GUI side only really, it should be implemented as a plugin. One thing I'm planning on adding is a 'pd- gui' receive, like the 'pd' receive, so you can send messages to the GUI from pd. That is currently the only missing piece for implementing this. Like was said before, it won't be hard to implement in Tcl, post any questions here and we can help get it working. .hc On Apr 23, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Is it possible to make these messages that can be sent to a canvas? That's already the way one changes settings of a canvas (editmode, clear, donecanvasdialog, etc.) Also, that way you could have a patch my-kiosk-thingy.pd, and when you open it you could have all kinds of initialization settings, and a subpatch [pd gui]. When you get all the init values set you can send [fullscreen 1( -- [s pd-gui] . Then you don't need to make a new object [gui]. -Jonathan --- On Thu, 4/22/10, errordevelo...@gmail.com errordevelo...@gmail.com wrote: From: errordevelo...@gmail.com errordevelo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] gui devel idea: kiosk mode To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 11:51 PM i think it's probably better to do this via a msg so basically there would be commands like: gui-hide-menu gui-hide-scrollbar gui-hide- ... gui-canvas-fullscreen gui-hide-decortion so basically you can put this into a subpatch and loadbang whichever one you need ;) may it's better to implement this via gui object which you would send msgs to .. [hide-canvas( | | [gui] or we do this kind of stylie: [; pd-gui command( ? i'm not sure which way is more practical .. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 09:57:51PM +0200, András Murányi wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:01 PM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, just had a thought for a gui development: a runtime mode, feasible for demos or finished applications where the user only gets presented with the finished program, and no menus. In opera it's called kiosk mode ( http://www.opera.com/support/mastering/kiosk/): all the menus are hidden, and the user should only interact with the program. It doesn't have to go as far as opera's mode (and disable key shortcuts), but if it's not complicated, a presentation mode could be nice for patch showcase, finished performance patches or tools, ... As far as I imagine, some simple options might be enough: - hide menus - hide window lane - hide borders - fullscreen mode Best, João Sounds good! Seems this is not supported in Tcl/Tk 8.3 but from 8.4 up it is. Which, according to current 'policy', predestines it to be a plugin (?), actually a very simple one. Shall be bind to F11! Provided this fullscreen feature, (how) do want to be able to scroll the canvas? I suppose we just keep the scrollbars...? Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free software means someone else controls that, and to some extent controls you. - Richard M. Stallman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
hello Roman I've tried Mx everytime I used netpd, so could tell what doesn't meet my criteria... there are already plenty of stuff for fx, that's nice, I've even stolen some stuff inside, like the dynamic routing, some times ago. In fact it's a pain in the **s do a good job in such a mixer because of aesthetics, anecdotic criterium in this conversation. There is no vu-meter in tracks, so we don't know where the signals come from, neither at each level it comes. There is no peak value detection, we don't know what was the last highest peak value, to find out what sound would overhelm the mixing equilibrium. Using different colors for the different bus is a very good idea, and make gaining time for finding the good slider, but some colors gives Mx an ugly apparence that could be avoided with choosing harmonious tones, for example a yellow handle over a white background slider, is just a pain for the eyes. Also the green color is very agressive. Mixing sounds is a kind of computation where the engineer need know accurately which level he has to give to some tracks for getting a correct average power, for example if we add 3 Decibels we double power... The necessary stuff is just a number box that would tell how much Db is modulated over a slider. here is my favorite mixing tool: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan07/images/cubase5_l.jpg _ we can choose DAC~ input and output bus _ phase inversion _ Gain level _ Panning is over the number of output buses we choose _ A 'Listen' button has been added with 'Solo', but I didn't use it yet. _ we can record/play automation from the board. _ we can choose if the signal that goes to the bus is pre or post fader. _ same for vu-meter (all) _ we can record stuff passing through the mixer, if it's audio it records audio, if it's midi it records midi _ we can access directly to the instrument from the mixer track. _ there is an internal EQ, very usefull and very well implemented into to mixer track. _ we can group tracks into group tracks. _ we can save settings of each parts of the mixer. there are also all the settings that has effect on all the the tracks, like hiding all different parts of the tracks or setting peak detection time, copy-paste track params, an track edit window (so we can see all settings) ... For going further in the discussion, I'd need to try Mx EQ's and dynamic processing fx. This mixer is a cool project, and I'd love to use it in mine, but I'd need to make a stand alone patch. is there such one? - Mail Original - De: Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de À: colet patrice colet.patr...@free.fr Cc: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com, pd-list pd-list@iem.at Envoyé: Jeudi 22 Avril 2010 19h27:10 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd? Hi Patko On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 18:27 +0200, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: I just wanted to check if someone has invented this wheel in pd... apparently not... marketing lingo Have you checked mx from netpd? http://www.netpd.org/Mx I am not sure, if it meets your criteria, but some of it features are: - slot for insert-fx per channel/master channel - unlimited number of slots for aux-fx - aux-fx can be chained - you can write your own fx By using some additional fx plugin suites, you can have: - meta-fx, that pack 3 slots into one (this way you can have as many inserts in a chain as you want) - dynamic processing fx - EQs - time-based fx, such chorus, flanger, phaser - some funky freaky stuff, such as spectral-delay, fft-based pitchshifter and more. /marketing lingo Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] margins
Hallo, Alexandre Porres hat gesagt: // Alexandre Porres wrote: I didnt want it to do anything really, just wanted to know what it did... what about those unit pixels thing? when the canvas is not gopped? They are mostly useful with data structures. You can use them to zoom in and out while keeping the data stored constant and you can invert for example the y-axis, which is useful when you display things like frequency: bigger values are then displayed above smaller values, which looks more natural that the default of bigger y-values going down. Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sourceforge access of the evil!
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Be very grateful that the block-list had not confused Syria and Styria. right. just imagine: being part of the access of evil, i would even have been so restricted as to not being able to lift the restrictions. I wouldn't have been allowed to help you either. I am also part of the Axis : http://artengine.ca/matju/pics/axe_of_evil.png (the joke doesn't really work because Syria isn't there...) _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sourceforge access of the evil!
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: As an American, I am required to fear what might happen if the rouge states got a hold of Pd. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rouge_%28cosmetics%29 rouge is pronounced with a long oo and soft g rogue is pronounced with a long oh and hard g (but in french the latter is more like : rug states) _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] bug in maxlib/scale
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Roman Haefeli wrote: I don't know the formula, but I did it by putting two Dreisätze (rules of three?) in a row: The first scales the input to 0-1, the second scales 0-1 to the output range. If written out as a formula, this could probably even made shorter, I don't know. Check the attached scale_abs.pd That's quite exactly how I shown my students how to change the range of values, except we didn't have to do the stuff on the right because we were not trying to make an abstraction with it. I mean, the [-] [/] [*] [+] sequence is exactly the same. It's possible to make the left inlet run faster by condensing the formula to just a [*] and a [+], but then the right inlets become more complicated and slower. It's a possible tradeoff if you have to make the left inlet real fast, but I haven't taught that, and I didn't try to make an abstraction with it. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gui devel idea: kiosk mode
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Is it possible to make these messages that can be sent to a canvas? Sorry... what is this question ?... _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Smooth looping
Hi, not related to the thread on smoother audio in Pd, I am struggling with doing a smooth loop player for data stored in tables. One building block for this is attached: It is a simple tabread4~ lookup that should loop over a configurable section of a table and play it back with various frequencies. As you'll easily see, I use a [phasor~] | [*~ loopsize] | [+~ loopstart] | [tabread4~ table] idiom here. Now I would like to avoid enveloping the rewind sections, so I built an elaborate mechanism to set the loop points as good as possible by hand. Test sections let you load a sample or try to find the smooth loop points inside of a sine-wave table graphically. Now my problem is, that even when I have found a nice and smooth sounding loop section, as soon as I start to change the frequency played (with the pd transpose things), the sound gets very distorted. I'm puzzled: Shouldn't the tabread4~ interpolate correctly in this case? Any help or explanation is appreciated. (Except anything involving crossfades: I know I could do that and I guess I also know how.) Ciao -- Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me? _ __footils.org__ looppoints.pd Description: application/puredata ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] RjDj svn temporary downtime
Hi, the subversion repository of RjDj is undergoing a temporary downtime for technical reasons. It's not yet clear when it will be available again, but for those of you who want to use the rj library in the meantime, I've put the latest version here: http://osc.rjdj.me/~fbar/rj-100423.tgz This only includes the rj folder of abstractions. If you want more, a slightly outdated version of rj also is part of the RjDj Composer pack together with many other niceties: http://trac.rjdj.me/wiki/ComposersPack Sorry for any inconveiences. Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 61, Issue 114
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 10:52 +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote: well, we are in 3 then. 4 I find IEMGUTS so useful I second that. I also second that, ... I first wrote some externals, then I looked at iemguts and found out that I had quite exactly reinvented the wheel... then I imitated some more like that because I didn't know whether I could depend on iemguts. Then eventually I found out that [propertybang] can't possibly coexist easily with any external that does the same thing as it does, so... i'm sort of stuck there, if I'm not supposed to be relying on [propertybang]. does anyone use [propertybang] yet ? _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 61, Issue 125
Rouge means red, doesn't it? He must have been referring to Cuba and North Korea ;-) On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 2:27 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Message: 5 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:44:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] sourceforge access of the evil! To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at, IOhannes m zm?lnig zmoel...@iem.at Message-ID: alpine.deb.2.00.1004231335090.19...@paik.artengine.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: As an American, I am required to fear what might happen if the rouge states got a hold of Pd. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rouge_%28cosmetics%29 rouge is pronounced with a long oo and soft g rogue is pronounced with a long oh and hard g (but in french the latter is more like : rug states) _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montr?al, Qu?bec. t?l?phone: +1.514.383.3801 -- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sourceforge access of the evil!
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: As an American, I am required to fear what might happen if the rouge states got a hold of Pd. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rouge_%28cosmetics%29 rouge is pronounced with a long oo and soft g rogue is pronounced with a long oh and hard g (but in french the latter is more like : rug states) And sentences usually start with a capital letter and end with period, question mark, or exclamation point. But, hey, you spelled everything right. Pretty sure we all knew what he was talking about. .mmb ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sourceforge access of the evil!
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: As an American, I am required to fear what might happen if the rouge states got a hold of Pd. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rouge_%28cosmetics%29 rouge is pronounced with a long oo and soft g rogue is pronounced with a long oh and hard g (but in french the latter is more like : rug states) I thought he was making another joke, like the access/axis one. The red states here are the ones that vote republican. MB ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Smooth looping
Hi, not related to the thread on smoother audio in Pd, I am struggling with doing a smooth loop player for data stored in tables. One building block for this is attached: It is a simple tabread4~ lookup that should loop over a configurable section of a table and play it back with various frequencies. As you'll easily see, I use a [phasor~] | [*~ loopsize] | [+~ loopstart] | [tabread4~ table] idiom here. Now I would like to avoid enveloping the rewind sections, so I built an elaborate mechanism to set the loop points as good as possible by hand. Test sections let you load a sample or try to find the smooth loop points inside of a sine-wave table graphically. Now my problem is, that even when I have found a nice and smooth sounding loop section, as soon as I start to change the frequency played (with the pd transpose things), the sound gets very distorted. I'm puzzled: Shouldn't the tabread4~ interpolate correctly in this case? Any help or explanation is appreciated. (Except anything involving crossfades: I know I could do that and I guess I also know how.) Shouldn't you be multiplying the output of [pd transpose]-[lop~] with output of [r $0-loopfr]-[vline~] to change the frequency of the phasor, as opposed to multiplying the transpose stuff with the output of the phasor itself? In the latter case aren't you just expanding the output of the phasor to a different point in the file that is no longer necessarily loopable? Matt ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 61, Issue 114
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mathieu Bouchard wrote: could depend on iemguts. Then eventually I found out that [propertybang] can't possibly coexist easily with any external that does the same thing as it does, so... i'm sort of stuck there, if I'm not supposed to be relying on [propertybang]. hmm, i don't fully understand that. what is the problem? what do you expect? something like both [propertybang] and [gfpropertybang] both being triggered? fgmsadrt IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkvR87MACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRN2gCg6AHy7qhXV3uqc356riat3eXA 8KwAoLS1E0Le0Nz0dq9tUCNPrQezDpSk =ftKR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gui devel idea: kiosk mode
Well, in Pd you can already send an editmode message to a canvas to toggle editmode, as well as other messages (obj, clear, etc.). So instead of making a new [gui] object to handle this kiosk mode stuff, is it possible to make a plugin so that you can also send messages like fullscreen 1 to the canvas that you want to make fullscreen? I've only learned a little bit about tcl so I don't know how much is possible to do through plugins. -Jonathan --- On Fri, 4/23/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] gui devel idea: kiosk mode To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at, errordevelo...@gmail.com Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 8:19 PM On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Is it possible to make these messages that can be sent to a canvas? Sorry... what is this question ?... _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 61, Issue 114
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 10:52 +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote: well, we are in 3 then. 4 +1 I find IEMGUTS so useful ! I second that. i'm using it a lot in my kbd_ctrl toolkit and its so use/powerful that i dont want to miss it. Anyway i think there is some bug which crashes pd_ext 0.41 sometimes if i close a patch thats containing it (in 0.43_dev its working well until now)... i think that the experimental part ;) g. #N canvas 693 258 610 518 10; #N canvas 248 449 149 237 align_x 0; #X obj -7 3 inlet; #X obj -7 47 list-drip; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 once 0; #X obj 169 77 inlet; #X msg 214 171 0; #X obj 169 251 outlet; #X obj 169 121 t b a; #X obj 264 78 inlet; #X msg 264 169 1; #X obj 169 202 spigot 1; #X connect 0 0 3 0; #X connect 1 0 6 1; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 3 1 6 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 6 1; #X connect 6 0 2 0; #X restore 62 173 pd once; #X msg -7 132 \$2; #X obj -7 214 list prepend; #X obj -7 91 canvasobjectposition 2; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 receive_sorted_lists 0; #X obj 12 10 inlet; #X obj 12 74 outlet; #X obj 12 53 list; #X obj 51 30 r ids_y; #X obj 12 30 t b; #X connect 0 0 4 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 3 0 2 1; #X connect 4 0 2 0; #X restore -7 25 pd receive_sorted_lists; #X msg 62 132 \$1; #X obj -7 111 t l l; #X obj 62 151 t b f; #X obj 62 193 f; #X obj -7 70 t b f; #X connect 0 0 6 0; #X connect 1 0 11 0; #X connect 1 1 2 1; #X connect 2 0 10 0; #X connect 3 0 4 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 8 0; #X connect 6 0 1 0; #X connect 7 0 9 0; #X connect 8 0 3 0; #X connect 8 1 7 0; #X connect 9 0 2 0; #X connect 9 1 10 1; #X connect 10 0 4 1; #X connect 11 0 5 0; #X connect 11 1 5 1; #X restore 5 40 pd align_x; #N canvas 108 433 158 231 align_y 0; #X obj 3 4 inlet; #X obj 3 52 list-drip; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 once 0; #X obj 169 77 inlet; #X msg 214 171 0; #X obj 169 251 outlet; #X obj 169 121 t b a; #X obj 264 78 inlet; #X msg 264 169 1; #X obj 169 202 spigot 1; #X connect 0 0 3 0; #X connect 1 0 6 1; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 3 1 6 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 6 1; #X connect 6 0 2 0; #X restore 42 173 pd once; #X obj 3 93 canvasobjectposition 2; #X obj 3 219 list; #X msg 3 134 \$1; #N canvas 0 0 383 290 receive_sorted_lists 0; #X obj 12 10 inlet; #X obj 12 91 outlet; #X obj 12 64 list; #X obj 33 37 r ids_x; #X obj 12 37 t b; #X connect 0 0 4 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 3 0 2 1; #X connect 4 0 2 0; #X restore 3 29 pd receive_sorted_lists; #X obj 3 114 t l l; #X msg 42 134 \$2; #X obj 42 154 t b f; #X obj 3 73 t b f; #X obj 42 193 f; #X connect 0 0 6 0; #X connect 1 0 10 0; #X connect 1 1 2 1; #X connect 2 0 11 0; #X connect 3 0 7 0; #X connect 4 0 3 0; #X connect 5 0 4 0; #X connect 6 0 1 0; #X connect 7 0 5 0; #X connect 7 1 8 0; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 9 0 2 0; #X connect 9 1 11 1; #X connect 10 0 3 0; #X connect 10 1 3 1; #X connect 11 0 4 1; #X restore 16 60 pd align_y; #N canvas 745 374 450 300 align_equal_x 0; #X obj 7 81 t b l; #N canvas 613 140 310 300 avg-dist 0; #X obj 19 96 list-minmax; #X obj 96 97 list-len; #X obj 43 153 -; #X obj 43 181 / 1; #X obj 43 201 int; #X obj 57 25 inlet; #X obj 43 249 outlet; #X obj 96 151 - 1; #X obj 41 122 swap; #X obj 57 71 t l l; #X connect 0 0 8 0; #X connect 0 1 8 1; #X connect 1 0 7 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 3 0 4 0; #X connect 4 0 6 0; #X connect 5 0 9 0; #X connect 7 0 3 1; #X connect 8 0 2 0; #X connect 8 1 2 1; #X connect 9 0 0 0; #X connect 9 1 1 0; #X restore 70 131 pd avg-dist; #X obj 7 131 list; #X obj 7 11 inlet; #X obj 7 103 delay 20; #X obj 7 34 t l b; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 receive_sorted_lists 0; #X obj 4 10 inlet; #X obj 4 89 outlet; #X obj 48 89 outlet; #X obj 4 64 list; #X obj 48 64 list; #X obj 49 37 r values_x; #X obj 117 37 r ids_x; #X obj 4 37 t b b; #X connect 0 0 7 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 2 0; #X connect 5 0 3 1; #X connect 6 0 4 1; #X connect 7 0 4 0; #X connect 7 1 3 0; #X restore 7 56 pd receive_sorted_lists; #N canvas 63 465 597 459 algneq_x 0; #X obj 124 14 inlet; #X obj 13 13 inlet; #X obj 13 35 list-drip; #X obj 82 185 f; #X obj 109 185 + 0; #X msg 97 163 0; #X obj 13 231 t l b; #X obj 13 79 canvasobjectposition 3; #X msg 13 124 \$2; #X obj 13 206 list prepend; #X msg 52 124 \$1; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 once 0; #X obj 169 77 inlet; #X msg 214 171 0; #X obj 169 251 outlet; #X obj 169 121 t b a; #X obj 264 78 inlet; #X msg 264 169 1; #X obj 169 202 spigot 1; #X connect 0 0 3 0; #X connect 1 0 6 1; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 3 1 6 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 6 1; #X connect 6 0 2 0; #X restore 32 144 pd once; #X obj 37 164 f; #X obj 13 103 t l b l; #X obj 13 56 t b f; #X connect 0 0 4 1; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 14 0; #X connect 2 1 5 0; #X connect 2 1 11 1; #X connect 3 0 4 0; #X connect 3 0 9 1; #X connect 4 0 3 1; #X connect 5 0 4 1; #X connect 6 0 7 0; #X connect 6 1 3 0; #X connect 7 0 13 0; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 9 0 6 0; #X connect 10 0 12 1; #X connect 11 0 12 0; #X connect 12 0 3 0; #X connect
Re: [PD] sourceforge access of the evil!
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Matt Barber wrote: I thought he was making another joke, like the access/axis one. I saw so many misspellings of rogue vs rouge all over the internet, that I have trouble figuring out whether any english-speaker is making a joke or not. However, I'm quite certain very many people would miss the joke entirely, if there is one... The red states here are the ones that vote republican. In much of Canadian politics, it's the other way around : red corresponds to what would be called democrats in the USA. (There even used to be a Parti Rouge like that, spelled like that), and there are multiple blue-coloured parties with completely different opinions. Also, red has been the colour of the USSR flag and of the PRC, so, it has communist overtones... but the flag of Canada is quite red too. So, there are plenty of ambiguous jokes one can make with the colours. I think that party colour jokes are not very in at the moment. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Smooth looping
As I understand and as Matt already wrote, you wanted a transposition of the phasor~'s frequency (which would change the frequency of the loop but not the sample content), but instead you did the classic up/downsampling-of-the-soundsample transposition. (The distortion you get is due to the difference in spectral content, which should be richer as you transpose upwards since you read a longer portion of the sample. Also, the end of the loop changes which could mean a harder discontinuity.) I tried to fix the transposition and I also added an offset in the audio path before tabread4~ that corresponds to the beginning of the loop. And I'm sure you've already figured everything out, long before you got our emails. alabala On 23 April 2010 20:27, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote: Hi, not related to the thread on smoother audio in Pd, I am struggling with doing a smooth loop player for data stored in tables. One building block for this is attached: It is a simple tabread4~ lookup that should loop over a configurable section of a table and play it back with various frequencies. As you'll easily see, I use a [phasor~] | [*~ loopsize] | [+~ loopstart] | [tabread4~ table] idiom here. Now I would like to avoid enveloping the rewind sections, so I built an elaborate mechanism to set the loop points as good as possible by hand. Test sections let you load a sample or try to find the smooth loop points inside of a sine-wave table graphically. Now my problem is, that even when I have found a nice and smooth sounding loop section, as soon as I start to change the frequency played (with the pd transpose things), the sound gets very distorted. I'm puzzled: Shouldn't the tabread4~ interpolate correctly in this case? Any help or explanation is appreciated. (Except anything involving crossfades: I know I could do that and I guess I also know how.) Ciao -- Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me? _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ypatios looppoints2.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Lucio Araujo has invited you to Dropbox
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[PD] xcode compiling issue
I'm having trouble using xcode to compile an external (not audio, pretty simple c code). Using Intel machine, OS 10.5, xcode 3.0; I followed the directions in : http://puredata.info/docs/developer/PdExternalsInXcode/ and it appears to compile cleanly. However, when I try to use the external in a patch I get a dlopen error: no suitable image found. Did find: ( ... the compiled external ... ): unknown file type, first eight bytes: 0x21 0x3C 0x61 0x72 0x63 0x68 0x3E 0x0A Has anyone found this error and/or a solution? Failing that, could anyone share a robust makefile for building an external that runs on both ppc and i386 using gcc? I tried that, but got Undefined symbols errors for all the pd classes (perhaps it's not finding m_pd.h, but I thought I set the path carefully enough...) Many thanks for any help! Andrew * Andrew May Associate Professor of Music Director, Center for Experimental Music and Intermedia College of Music, Box 311367 University of North Texas Denton, TX 76203-1367 1.940.891.6816 tel 1.940.565.2002 fax ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio
- Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de a écrit : A VU-meter is very expensive to have in a Pd-window, unfortunately. those things are hardware accelerated (which would be cool to have in Pd as well, also inside Pd windows). Vu-meter internal isn't hardware accelerated? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
