Re: [PD]

2010-05-27 Thread Lorenzo
Very interesting work! The concept of a pd html 'element' for general 
'sound generation' on the web is great!

Keep it up.
Lorenzo

PS: I'm sure you also know about this (unfortunately pretty dead): 
http://www.dtic.upf.edu/~malonso/pdplugin/





For sound you will want these builds of Firefox:


Source code:
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Re: [PD] cross platform synth?

2010-05-27 Thread rene beekman
jose, thanks!

rene



On May 27, 2010, at 14:19, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote:

> and this
> 
> http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/freeware/SOFTWARE_SYNTHESIZERS/
> 
> José
> 
> 2010/5/27 Jose Luis Santorcuato 
> Hey Rene check this:
> http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Best regards
> 
> José
> 
> 2010/5/27 rene beekman 
> 
> looking for a free, cross platform (at least mac & pc) soft synth that 
> functions like a standalone application for midi demo purposes (no, can't use 
> pd in this case cause the point is to show pd interacting with the software)
> tried the so-called 'free' downloads from NI, which are humongous and a major 
> pain to install, requiring email to get the dl url, authorization, 
> personalization and what not...
> was hoping anyone here might have a suggestion
> 
> thanks!
> 
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Re: [PD] missing objects in Pd Extended

2010-05-27 Thread Martin Peach

Ben Baker-Smith wrote:

Well in the case of MrPeach and nsend I am actually missing the files.
In the MrPeach directory I have got no tcpsocketserver.dll file (I have
and can create other objects such as tcpserver, routeOSC, etc).



The same thing happens for me with the objects you mentioned from
"MrPeach" and "nsend".

Also, all the "msd" objects and all the "hardware" objects except
[lanbox] are missing.

And like you say, they are missing from their respective directories.
I'm running Pd-extended 0.41.4



On Pd version 0.42.5-extended-20100524 WinXp they are not included either.
tcpsocketserver is an abstraction, so there is no dll. It is present in 
svn in the same directory as routeOSC, so probably there is something 
about the Pd-extended makefiles such that they doesn't install 
abstractions, only compiled externals.


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Re: [PD] missing objects in Pd Extended

2010-05-27 Thread Ben Baker-Smith
>Well in the case of MrPeach and nsend I am actually missing the files.
>In the MrPeach directory I have got no tcpsocketserver.dll file (I have
>and can create other objects such as tcpserver, routeOSC, etc).
>

The same thing happens for me with the objects you mentioned from
"MrPeach" and "nsend".

Also, all the "msd" objects and all the "hardware" objects except
[lanbox] are missing.

And like you say, they are missing from their respective directories.
I'm running Pd-extended 0.41.4


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Re: [PD] microphone cleaner advice

2010-05-27 Thread Andrew Faraday

This technique has quite a distinctive sound, tho. Football commentators always 
used to have this slightly hollow sound to their voices, a result of this same 
phase-inversion.

Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 04:04:06 +0800
From: noise@gmail.com
To: pured...@11h11.com
CC: pd-list@iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] microphone cleaner advice

a noise cancelling mic would require 2 capsules, one cardioid pointing the the 
wanted source (you) and another picking up the opposite direction assuming 
that's where the noise is and then phase inverts the 2. as the noise hits both 
capsules at the same time but at opposite phases it should work quite ok.

Jurgen

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 1:47 AM, patrick  wrote:

hi everyone,



on the market there is microphone that have a feature called noise cancellation 
for a better speech quality. this is what i am trying to achieve with pd.



my microphone is not that noisy (for a diy 6$ microphone):

http://www.workinprogress.ca/electret-microphone-amplifier/



but the environment is (computer fan for example).



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Re: [PD] microphone cleaner advice

2010-05-27 Thread patrick

hi,

i found this external:

drown~ was designed to function as a noise reduction
processor. It is an adaptive spectral filter which scales the
amplitude of frequencies that fall below a specifiable
threshold by scaling them by a specifiable amplitude factor;
this results in either noise reduction or noise increase.
drown~ thus provides a variety of possibly dramatic spectral
modifications that will bring you award-winning acclaim or
your money back.

in fftease~
http://puredata.info/Members/hans/FFTeaseBuilds

well, i will forget about the noise cancellation, i don't want to make 
another microphone. i will try to simply implement something like:


remove low-frequency noise below 50 Hz (maybe not needed anymore (drown~)?)
drown~
bandpass filter (for voice *)
noisegate
global amplitude scaling (some kind of compressor)
limiter~

pat

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Re: [PD] missing objects in Pd Extended

2010-05-27 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

Ricardo Lameiro escribió:
As far as i know, not all the externals are enabled by default on 
pd-extende, maybe try to do [import mrpeach] and see if it works, other 
way you can do it is choosing the folder of the external you want on 
file -> startup and add the name of the folder with the external you 
want, this way it will always load on startup 



Well in the case of MrPeach and nsend I am actually missing the files. 
In the MrPeach directory I have got no tcpsocketserver.dll file (I have 
and can create other objects such as tcpserver, routeOSC, etc).


In the case of nsend, indeed i've just realised that they are all 
abstractions, not externals, and that nsend is not in the startup list.
This explains that when I open nsend-help.pd with the help browser, it 
cannot find nsend.pd which is not in the doc folder.


There is one crazy thing though. Even if I open nsend-help.pd from the 
extra/nsend folder, where there _is_ a nsend.pd abstraction file, the 
instances of [nsend] within the patch don't create



I don't especially need [nsend], I don't even know what it is for; i was 
just browsing through the help patches and noticed that I often miss 
some object


Thanks
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Re: [PD] microphone cleaner advice

2010-05-27 Thread Yu Lao
a noise cancelling mic would require 2 capsules, one cardioid pointing the
the wanted source (you) and another picking up the opposite direction
assuming that's where the noise is and then phase inverts the 2. as the
noise hits both capsules at the same time but at opposite phases it should
work quite ok.

Jurgen

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 1:47 AM, patrick  wrote:

> hi everyone,
>
> on the market there is microphone that have a feature called noise
> cancellation for a better speech quality. this is what i am trying to
> achieve with pd.
>
> my microphone is not that noisy (for a diy 6$ microphone):
> http://www.workinprogress.ca/electret-microphone-amplifier/
>
> but the environment is (computer fan for example).
>
> pat
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Re: [PD] missing objects in Pd Extended

2010-05-27 Thread Ricardo Lameiro
As far as i know, not all the externals are enabled by default on
pd-extende, maybe try to do [import mrpeach] and see if it works, other way
you can do it is choosing the folder of the external you want on file ->
startup and add the name of the folder with the external you want, this way
it will always load on startup

2010/5/27 Matteo Sisti Sette 

> Hi,
>
> Too often I browse the help-browser of Pd Extended and some of the objects
> in the help-patches of some externals cannot create.
> Often even the object whose help patch I'm opening does not exist.
>
> For example [tcpsocketserver] is missing while there is a
> tcpsocketserver-help.pd patch in MrPeach folder,
>
> or [nsend] is missing while there is a nsend-help.pd patch.
>
> And now I don't remember but there were a few more...
>
> Is it normal? I mean have these objects been removed [or renamed] for some
> reason and the author forgot to remove [or update] the help patches? Or is
> there something wrong in the Pd Extended I have downloaded? (0.41.4 Windows)
>
> Thanks
> m.
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[PD] missing objects in Pd Extended

2010-05-27 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

Hi,

Too often I browse the help-browser of Pd Extended and some of the 
objects in the help-patches of some externals cannot create.

Often even the object whose help patch I'm opening does not exist.

For example [tcpsocketserver] is missing while there is a 
tcpsocketserver-help.pd patch in MrPeach folder,


or [nsend] is missing while there is a nsend-help.pd patch.

And now I don't remember but there were a few more...

Is it normal? I mean have these objects been removed [or renamed] for 
some reason and the author forgot to remove [or update] the help 
patches? Or is there something wrong in the Pd Extended I have 
downloaded? (0.41.4 Windows)


Thanks
m.


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Re: [PD] microphone cleaner advice

2010-05-27 Thread Derek Holzer
Sorry if it sounds a little hard, but maybe the simple solution is to  
learn to use the microphone better to avoid the environmental noise in  
the first place? It's not that difficult, and saves you a lot of  
digital work and/or processing artifacts later on.


D.

On 5/27/10 8:47 PM, patrick wrote:


my microphone is not that noisy (for a diy 6$ microphone):
http://www.workinprogress.ca/electret-microphone-amplifier/

but the environment is (computer fan for example).


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Re: [PD] microphone cleaner advice

2010-05-27 Thread patrick

hi everyone,

on the market there is microphone that have a feature called noise 
cancellation for a better speech quality. this is what i am trying to 
achieve with pd.


my microphone is not that noisy (for a diy 6$ microphone):
http://www.workinprogress.ca/electret-microphone-amplifier/

but the environment is (computer fan for example).

pat

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Re: [PD] microphone cleaner advice

2010-05-27 Thread Yu Lao
First "noisy mic" doesn't mean anything, you need to listen and describe the
noise to understand it. broadband or narrow band? periodic or
intermittent? hum? crackles?
And I'm not trying to be funny but I would really eliminate the noise before
the signal hits Pd. If it is for live input you can't really use an fft
based noise reducing process and filtering out parts of your signal only
makes the sound even worse. There are no noisy mics, perhaps yours is broken
and you need to replace it. A reasonable dynamic mic doesn't cost a lot, so
do quality soldered cables.

Jurgen

2010/5/28 András Murányi 

> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Faraday wrote:
>
>>  Your hip~ at the end isn't needed if you've already got one at 50hz,
>> I'd be very cautious of trying to band pass just the fundamental tones of
>> voice too, there's a lot of harmonics in the human voice, not to mention
>> bits of 'noise' signal (like the 's' and 't' sounds) which need treble to be
>> heard as language.
>>
>
> ...given that, a band pass can still be useful, but the upper limit shall
> be set far above 255hz.
> Actually, i think even the lower limit will be higher than 255hz, or around
> that.
> My recommendation is to try a 300-3000hz band, and of course to listen and
> adjust accordingly.
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Re: [PD] microphone cleaner advice

2010-05-27 Thread András Murányi
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Faraday wrote:

>  Your hip~ at the end isn't needed if you've already got one at 50hz,
> I'd be very cautious of trying to band pass just the fundamental tones of
> voice too, there's a lot of harmonics in the human voice, not to mention
> bits of 'noise' signal (like the 's' and 't' sounds) which need treble to be
> heard as language.
>

...given that, a band pass can still be useful, but the upper limit shall be
set far above 255hz.
Actually, i think even the lower limit will be higher than 255hz, or around
that.
My recommendation is to try a 300-3000hz band, and of course to listen and
adjust accordingly.

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[PD] PD GEm issue in openSuse 11.1

2010-05-27 Thread Ricardo Cedeño

HI everyone,

I got a problem with GEM. 

I'm running PD extended 0.41.4 in openSuse 11.1 
and after several weeks of tries I'm still not able to make GEM work.

It always returns the following message: 

.../ 
Gem.pd_linux: undefined symbol: _ZN6FTFont4BBoxEPKwRfS2_S2_S2_S2_S2_
Gem:
 can't load library


I have installed the font Bitstream Vera as suggested but the problem persists 
somebody knows what's happening?

Many 
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Re: [PD]

2010-05-27 Thread marius schebella

this is awesome!
marius.

chrism wrote:



For sound you will want these builds of Firefox:


Source code: 
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Re: [PD] cross platform synth?

2010-05-27 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
and this

http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/freeware/SOFTWARE_SYNTHESIZERS/

José

2010/5/27 Jose Luis Santorcuato 

> Hey Rene check this:
> http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/
>
> Best regards
>
> José
>
> 2010/5/27 rene beekman 
>
> looking for a free, cross platform (at least mac & pc) soft synth that
>> functions like a standalone application for midi demo purposes (no, can't
>> use pd in this case cause the point is to show pd interacting with the
>> software)
>> tried the so-called 'free' downloads from NI, which are humongous and a
>> major pain to install, requiring email to get the dl url, authorization,
>> personalization and what not...
>> was hoping anyone here might have a suggestion
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> rene
>>
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Re: [PD] cross platform synth?

2010-05-27 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Hey Rene check this:
http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/

Best regards

José

2010/5/27 rene beekman 

> looking for a free, cross platform (at least mac & pc) soft synth that
> functions like a standalone application for midi demo purposes (no, can't
> use pd in this case cause the point is to show pd interacting with the
> software)
> tried the so-called 'free' downloads from NI, which are humongous and a
> major pain to install, requiring email to get the dl url, authorization,
> personalization and what not...
> was hoping anyone here might have a suggestion
>
> thanks!
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[PD] mcgill-mailing-list

2010-05-27 Thread steffen scholl

hello,

who can tell me something about the first max-mailing-list (1993-?) which was 
initiated by christopher murtagh?

best, steff


  
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Re: [PD] microphone cleaner advice

2010-05-27 Thread Andrew Faraday

Your hip~ at the end isn't needed if you've already got one at 50hz, 
I'd be very cautious of trying to band pass just the fundamental tones of voice 
too, there's a lot of harmonics in the human voice, not to mention bits of 
'noise' signal (like the 's' and 't' sounds) which need treble to be heard as 
language. I'd look for a compressor in PD to get a little more volume. 
Normalizing, by it's very nature, can't be done live, but a good compressor is 
a similar result (reducing the higher peaks then increasing the overall volume, 
Having said that, any ground sound from your microphone etc, might be increased 
by this approach, but it would by normalizing samples too.

Have a look to see if you can find a workable noise gate too, these cut a 
channel when the input drops below a given volume, often used for live vocals, 
so the gate opens when there's sound into a mic.



> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 02:58:37 -0400
> From: pured...@11h11.com
> To: pd-list@iem.at
> Subject: [PD] microphone cleaner advice
> 
> hi everyone,
> 
> i would like to clean a signal coming from a noisy microphone.
> 
> what i have in mind right now:
> 
> remove low-frequency noise below 50 Hz
> bandpass filter (for voice *)
> global amplitude scaling (realtime normalizer?)
> limiter~
> hip~ 5 (remove dc)
> 
> * The voiced speech of a typical adult male will have a fundamental 
> frequency from 85 to 180 Hz, and that of a typical adult female from 165 
> to 255 Hz
> 
> any advice is welcome (also patchs and externals).
> pat
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[PD] microphone cleaner advice

2010-05-27 Thread patrick

hi everyone,

i would like to clean a signal coming from a noisy microphone.

what i have in mind right now:

remove low-frequency noise below 50 Hz
bandpass filter (for voice *)
global amplitude scaling (realtime normalizer?)
limiter~
hip~ 5 (remove dc)

* The voiced speech of a typical adult male will have a fundamental 
frequency from 85 to 180 Hz, and that of a typical adult female from 165 
to 255 Hz


any advice is welcome (also patchs and externals).
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