Re: [PD] pdj - problems installing

2010-06-01 Thread Michal Seta
Hmmm... I have not used pdj recently, but on my system the pd path had
to be set to the "dist" directory of the pdj package.  This is where
pdj.pd_linux is located, too.  I am stuck on version 0.8.6, however,
YYMV.  Keep in mind that pd's search path is not recursive.  However,
on my system, the help class is instantiated by [pdj help_class] (note
the underscore).

in pdj.properties, the only thing you will want to set is
pdj.classes-dir to the place where you intend to store your java
source code, especially if you keep the pdj directory (and therefore
its classes directory) in some place not accessible by a normal user
(as is your case right now).

On the other hand, why not simply set pd path to the pdj/dist
directory rather than copying it to /usr/lib/pd/extra?

Hope some of this helps.

./MiS

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Kim Cascone  wrote:
> I successfully compiled the pdj lib
> placed the whole dir in the /usr/lib/pd/extra dir
> set a path to it in pd-extended
> tried to open a help file for the 'help class' and got
> a red outline around the [pdj help class] external
> and this error in the console:
>
> pdj help_class
> ... couldn't create
> pdj: unable to use the JVM specified at pdj.JAVA_HOME
> pdj: using JVM from the LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> error: pdj: libjava.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> directory
> pdj help_class @attr1 10
> ... couldn't create
> tried text-help.pd and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/text-help.pd and succeeded
>
>
> I'm reading through the 'pdj.properties' file but not sure of what to modify
>
> any help is appreciated!
> ??
>
> :)
>
> ===
>
> my Linux audio config:
> Dell Studio 15 Core2 Duo 2.0GHz 3G-RAM
> Ubuntu 9.04
> kernel 2.6.28.18-generic
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[PD] pd spect help

2010-06-01 Thread Pagano, Patrick
Hi this is a FWD: 

Can anyone look at this and see the errors?


I'm making progress in my guitar  tablature writer program that I'm working for 
in Arturo's class.  As such I have come across an obstacle I have not figured 
out yet.  I have attached the patch to this email.   Basically using the graph 
window that is produced by the patch I plan on differentiating between 
different guitar note positions using the timbre of sounds.   What I need is to 
obtain the values that construct the graph spectrum so then I can compare the 
difference between notes; it seems that the information is packed, but I have 
not figured out a way to access it.  




Spect.pd
Description: Spect.pd
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[PD] pdj - problems installing

2010-06-01 Thread Kim Cascone

I successfully compiled the pdj lib
placed the whole dir in the /usr/lib/pd/extra dir
set a path to it in pd-extended
tried to open a help file for the 'help class' and got
a red outline around the [pdj help class] external
and this error in the console:

pdj help_class
... couldn't create
pdj: unable to use the JVM specified at pdj.JAVA_HOME
pdj: using JVM from the LD_LIBRARY_PATH
error: pdj: libjava.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
directory

pdj help_class @attr1 10
... couldn't create
tried text-help.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/text-help.pd and succeeded


I'm reading through the 'pdj.properties' file but not sure of what to modify

any help is appreciated!
??

:)

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my Linux audio config:
Dell Studio 15 Core2 Duo 2.0GHz 3G-RAM
Ubuntu 9.04
kernel 2.6.28.18-generic

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Re: [PD] Pd Shirts

2010-06-01 Thread Ben Baker-Smith
Great work getting these printed! I'm very excited to get mine.

>I think since you are doing the work of making and selling the shirts,
>I think you should decide where the money goes.

I agree.

Ben Baker-Smith
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Re: [PD] new patch position on windows xp

2010-06-01 Thread Martin Peach

Martin Peach wrote:

Lorenzo wrote:
Alas, I must use Windows Xp as well... Anyway I have switched since 
about two months to having the taskbar at the top of the screen, 
meaning that when I create a new patch it is placed at absolute 0,0 
"absolute" with the title-bar behind the taskbar (even with "always on 
top" option). Any tcl/tk guru know of a hack in the pd.tk file to have 
the new windows positioned at 0,0 "relative" to the taskbar or 
alternatively just sligtly offset down?


If it's Pd -extended, around line 395 of pd.tk:

wm title . "Pd-extended"
# initial location of Pd window (+x+y)
wm geometry . +20+70

I imagine that changing +20+70 would move the window.



Sorry, I missed the bit where you're creating new patchers, not the main 
window.
It seems like the tcl function pdtk_canvas_new() is called only from the 
c function canvas_vis() in g_editor.c:


  sys_vgui("pdtk_canvas_new .x%lx %d %d +%d+%d %d\n", x,
(int)(x->gl_screenx2 - x->gl_screenx1),
(int)(x->gl_screeny2 - x->gl_screeny1),
(int)(x->gl_screenx1), (int)(x->gl_screeny1),
x->gl_edit);

The only place that gl_screenx2, gl_screeny2 are set is in glist_addglist():

x->gl_screenx1 = x->gl_screeny1 = 0;
x->gl_screenx2 = 450;
x->gl_screeny2 = 300;

So unless something else is going on, changing x_glscreeny1 should 
offset new windows vertically.


So in pdtk_canvas_new, simply adding an offset to the second element of 
geometry should work.


In pd.tk, line 1418 is for MacOSX:
if { $pd_nt == 2 && [lindex $geometry 2] < 22 } {
lset geometry 2 22
}
So if you add one like this right after it for WinXP:
if { $pd_nt == 1 && [lindex $geometry 2] < 55 } {
lset geometry 2 55
}
...then new patcher windows will be offset 55 downwards.


Martin


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Re: [PD] Pd Shirts

2010-06-01 Thread Olivier Heinry

Hi list,

since I travel to Germany in a few weeks, I'm gonna order a number , I 
think 10 pieces at least for the Crealab in Nantes, so if anyone in 
Aachen / BXL / Paris / Orléans / Nantes is interested, let me know for 
pre-order, the van has plenty of room!

++
OH

Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :


Nice work Max!  I want to order some to the USA whenever the customs 
stuff is figured out.


I think since you are doing the work of making and selling the shirts, 
I think you should decide where the money goes.


.hc

On May 31, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Max Flämig wrote:

you might have to pay some customs duty. shipping costs depend on 
amount of tshirts: 6 euro at least (might be 2 shirts)


would you like to ship to other pders inside the us as well? i could 
send you bunch of shirts at low price, and you just resell them for 
canada and us...  i imagine there are some guys there who want them...

best
max
Am 31.05.2010 um 21:00 schrieb Martin Eckart:


Is there an option for North Americans?  Shipping?  Print our own?

Cheers,
-martin

On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 17:23 +0200, Max Flämig wrote:

Hello,

You can buy some Pd-ish shirts now. Profit goes to the Pd-
Documentation. Shirts are 14 Euro. Order by email. For more 
information:


http://puredata.info/Members/mfla/banguntil



Best regards,

Max Flämig



p.s. there's 150 shirts if they're gone...
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Re: [PD] new patch position on windows xp

2010-06-01 Thread Lorenzo

Sorry to answer myself...
Alas, I must use Windows Xp as well... Anyway I have switched since 
about two months to having the taskbar at the top of the screen, 
meaning that when I create a new patch it is placed at absolute 0,0 
"absolute" with the title-bar behind the taskbar (even with "always on 
top" option). Any tcl/tk guru know of a hack in the pd.tk file to have 
the new windows positioned at 0,0 "relative" to the taskbar or 
alternatively just sligtly offset down?
I had been playing with the first wm geometry $name $geometry call in 
pdtk_canvas_new and had overlooked there was another one some 15 lines 
down, so that changing the second one to something like wm geometry 
$name  300x250+0+35 seems to improve things.. but I'm sure it's terribly 
hacky, breaks something else and not at all elegant - i.e. tk gurus' 
wisdom still appreciated :)



Thanks,
Lorenzo

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Re: [PD] new patch position on windows xp

2010-06-01 Thread Martin Peach

Lorenzo wrote:
Alas, I must use Windows Xp as well... Anyway I have switched since 
about two months to having the taskbar at the top of the screen, meaning 
that when I create a new patch it is placed at absolute 0,0 "absolute" 
with the title-bar behind the taskbar (even with "always on top" 
option). Any tcl/tk guru know of a hack in the pd.tk file to have the 
new windows positioned at 0,0 "relative" to the taskbar or alternatively 
just sligtly offset down?


If it's Pd -extended, around line 395 of pd.tk:

wm title . "Pd-extended"
# initial location of Pd window (+x+y)
wm geometry . +20+70

I imagine that changing +20+70 would move the window.

Martin


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[PD] new patch position on windows xp

2010-06-01 Thread Lorenzo
Alas, I must use Windows Xp as well... Anyway I have switched since 
about two months to having the taskbar at the top of the screen, meaning 
that when I create a new patch it is placed at absolute 0,0 "absolute" 
with the title-bar behind the taskbar (even with "always on top" 
option). Any tcl/tk guru know of a hack in the pd.tk file to have the 
new windows positioned at 0,0 "relative" to the taskbar or alternatively 
just sligtly offset down?

Thanks,
Lorenzo

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Re: [PD] Pd Shirts

2010-06-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Nice work Max!  I want to order some to the USA whenever the customs  
stuff is figured out.


I think since you are doing the work of making and selling the shirts,  
I think you should decide where the money goes.


.hc

On May 31, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Max Flämig wrote:

you might have to pay some customs duty. shipping costs depend on  
amount of tshirts: 6 euro at least (might be 2 shirts)


would you like to ship to other pders inside the us as well? i could  
send you bunch of shirts at low price, and you just resell them for  
canada and us...  i imagine there are some guys there who want them...

best
max
Am 31.05.2010 um 21:00 schrieb Martin Eckart:


Is there an option for North Americans?  Shipping?  Print our own?

Cheers,
-martin

On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 17:23 +0200, Max Flämig wrote:

Hello,

You can buy some Pd-ish shirts now. Profit goes to the Pd-
Documentation. Shirts are 14 Euro. Order by email. For more  
information:


http://puredata.info/Members/mfla/banguntil



Best regards,

Max Flämig



p.s. there's 150 shirts if they're gone...
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Re: [PD] ChucK vs. Pd

2010-06-01 Thread john saylor
yo

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Pierre Massat  wrote:
> Has anyone ever used ChucK?

guilty.

> How does it compare with Pd?

well, it doesn't have pd's patching visual interface. it doesn't have
the endless extentions [existing and extinct] that pd does. and it
doesn't have a commercial cousin [max] like pd.

it's a different mindset, a different interface. my time with it was
very fruitful. i'd recommend it.

> I m assuming it hasn't been developped for long enough to beat Pd.

no need to beat up each other! isn't it better to have more than one
kind of audio programming interface?

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Re: [PD] ChucK vs. Pd

2010-06-01 Thread Pierre Massat
Thanks for your replies!

Pierre

2010/6/1 Frank Barknecht 

> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 08:08:55PM -0400, Spencer Russell wrote:
> > PD's blocking behaviour is also configurable with the [block~] object,
> > so you can set the blocksize to a single sample if you like.
> >
> > I think I remember reading that ChucK can operate with variable-sized
> > blocks as well, but I could be wrong.
>
> I think, variable timing ("strongly timed") is the interesting part of
> ChucK. I
> wrote a bit about this in my LAC2010 paper "Applications of Blocked Signal
> Processing (BSP) in Pd":
> http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2010/papers/24.pdf
> http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2010/download/lac2010_bsp_in_pd.tgz
>
> http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2010/recordings/day3_1045_Applications_of_Blocked_Signal_Processing_in_Pd.ogv
>
> LuaAV also allows flexible timings.
>
> Ciao
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Re: [PD] gem curve object

2010-06-01 Thread cyrille henry

I think, one have to read :
"there is no software maximum of control-points"
i.e : there is a hardware limitation.

c


Le 01/06/2010 09:31, Lazzaro Nicolò Ciccolella a écrit :

Hi,
the curve object help patch say that "there is no maximum of control-points"
but if i try to crate [curve 11] or every other argument >10 the object
stop rendering and the pd consol get the error: "GL: invalid value".
pd 0.41.4-extended intel Mac osx

Someone else has tried this?
thanks
greetings
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[PD] gem curve object

2010-06-01 Thread Lazzaro Nicolò Ciccolella

Hi,
the curve object help patch say that "there is no maximum of control-points"
but if i try to crate [curve 11] or every other argument >10 the object 
stop rendering and the pd consol get the error: "GL: invalid value".

pd 0.41.4-extended intel Mac osx

Someone else has tried this?
thanks
greetings
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Re: [PD] ChucK vs. Pd

2010-06-01 Thread Frank Barknecht
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 08:08:55PM -0400, Spencer Russell wrote:
> PD's blocking behaviour is also configurable with the [block~] object,
> so you can set the blocksize to a single sample if you like.
> 
> I think I remember reading that ChucK can operate with variable-sized
> blocks as well, but I could be wrong.

I think, variable timing ("strongly timed") is the interesting part of ChucK. I
wrote a bit about this in my LAC2010 paper "Applications of Blocked Signal
Processing (BSP) in Pd":
http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2010/papers/24.pdf
http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2010/download/lac2010_bsp_in_pd.tgz
http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2010/recordings/day3_1045_Applications_of_Blocked_Signal_Processing_in_Pd.ogv

LuaAV also allows flexible timings.

Ciao
-- 
 Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me?  _ __footils.org__

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