[PD] numberbox with empty label x-offset value
Dear list, something funny happens in Pd when the x-offset value of the label in the properties dialog of a numberbox [nbx] is not set at all. Xorg eats all CPU for a while and creates a strange-looking object that can't be erased. This should be reproduceable in most Pd versions, not sure about operating systems though. best, P ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] numberbox with empty label x-offset value
hello something funny happens in Pd when the x-offset value of the label in the properties dialog of a numberbox [nbx] is not set at all. Xorg eats all CPU for a while and creates a strange-looking object that can't be erased. This should be reproduceable in most Pd versions, not sure about operating systems though. strange! i can confirm it on mac os x ciao -- ypatios ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] numberbox with empty label x-offset value
Hi, I confirm that it's also there in Win XP (i have pd-extended 0.41). Pierre 2010/7/26 ypatios ypat...@gmail.com hello something funny happens in Pd when the x-offset value of the label in the properties dialog of a numberbox [nbx] is not set at all. Xorg eats all CPU for a while and creates a strange-looking object that can't be erased. This should be reproduceable in most Pd versions, not sure about operating systems though. strange! i can confirm it on mac os x ciao -- ypatios ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended fedora 64bit
http://rpmfusion.org/ ? On 07/26/2010 06:00 AM, Bernardo Barros wrote: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/13/x86_64/(? i cannot try here) Andras Yeah, I have planet-crrma in my repos. I would need something else, I think. Or just ignore the GEM part of PD that use those non-free packages. I think that's why they are not in the Fedora repo. Would be nice to have a all-free version of pd-extended. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to start PD without any audio?
Did you tryed from command line line Hans suggested? (I never remember you can launch pd from the menu =P my bad!) On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Bart Koppe b...@a-bort.org wrote: I downloaded the same version of pd: Pd-0.42.5-extended-20100530-ubuntu-lucid-i386.deb But still the same issue.. thanks, Bart On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.ptwrote: I just tryed: - started mocp or vlc playing some mp3 - start pdextended with -noaudio Everything works, nothing stops the audio when pd is loaded, I can even send messages to mocp and control it. (mocp is using alsa) I use ubuntu 9.10rt and pdextended is Pd version 0.42-5extended-20100530 Just a parallel though: - cvlc can use jack :) So you could hook everything with audio and still use those apps. I have used pd to control both vlc and mocp (my favourite linux player) and didn't require to start pd without audio 'cause all of them accept jack. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Bart Koppe b...@a-bort.org wrote: From PD I want to control some audio streams playing in cvlc via the shell object. For a change I DO want to use PulseAudio and I don't want PD to make sound! If I start PD (off course without pasuspend) with -noaudio it still automatically takes away pulseaudio. How can I start PD extended without it trying to influence anything audio, so not touching oss/alsa/jack/pulseaudio or whatever stops PulseAudio? -- Pedro Lopes (ongoing MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes -- -/\/\/\/\/\/\- Bart Koppe Bergsingel 47B 3037 GA Rotterdam 06-40704051 b...@a-bort.org aim/msn/skype bartkoppe http://a-bort.org -\/\/\/\/\/\/- -- Pedro Lopes (ongoing MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to start PD without any audio?
Yes, all the time.. Tried in my studio on another system with Ubuntu 9.10 and pd extended 0.42.5 20100309. There the problem does not occur.. It basically could be Ubuntu Lucid (it's a pretty much fresh system where I have this problem) but it's strange how, as soon as I hit enter (in the commandline using 'pdextended -noaudio' or without that noaudio tag), the audio of rhytmbox goes off.. And not on that ubuntu 9.10 install. Best, Bart (sorry for my earlier direct reply instead of the l On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.ptwrote: Did you tryed from command line line Hans suggested? (I never remember you can launch pd from the menu =P my bad!) On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Bart Koppe b...@a-bort.org wrote: I downloaded the same version of pd: Pd-0.42.5-extended-20100530-ubuntu-lucid-i386.deb But still the same issue.. thanks, Bart On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.ptwrote: I just tryed: - started mocp or vlc playing some mp3 - start pdextended with -noaudio Everything works, nothing stops the audio when pd is loaded, I can even send messages to mocp and control it. (mocp is using alsa) I use ubuntu 9.10rt and pdextended is Pd version 0.42-5extended-20100530 Just a parallel though: - cvlc can use jack :) So you could hook everything with audio and still use those apps. I have used pd to control both vlc and mocp (my favourite linux player) and didn't require to start pd without audio 'cause all of them accept jack. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Bart Koppe b...@a-bort.org wrote: From PD I want to control some audio streams playing in cvlc via the shell object. For a change I DO want to use PulseAudio and I don't want PD to make sound! If I start PD (off course without pasuspend) with -noaudio it still automatically takes away pulseaudio. How can I start PD extended without it trying to influence anything audio, so not touching oss/alsa/jack/pulseaudio or whatever stops PulseAudio? -- Pedro Lopes (ongoing MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes -- -/\/\/\/\/\/\- Bart Koppe Bergsingel 47B 3037 GA Rotterdam 06-40704051 b...@a-bort.org aim/msn/skype bartkoppe http://a-bort.org -\/\/\/\/\/\/- -- Pedro Lopes (ongoing MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes -- -/\/\/\/\/\/\- Bart Koppe Bergsingel 47B 3037 GA Rotterdam 06-40704051 b...@a-bort.org aim/msn/skype bartkoppe http://a-bort.org -\/\/\/\/\/\/- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to start PD without any audio?
Sorry, for that.. This below i send dire On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: You'll want to keep the list CC'ed so other people who know about this stuff can help you. I'm not running Lucid, for example. .hc On Jul 26, 2010, at 3:49 AM, Bart Koppe wrote: Thanks for you answers, I do run pdextended -noaudio from bash, but really, as soon as i run it (cli) audio goes of. Running (updated) ubuntu 10.4 and pd extended 0.42.5. Bart On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: If you are using the menu launcher in the Applications menu, that will always trigger pasuspender. Launch Pd from the command line to avoid that. .hc On Jul 25, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Bart Koppe wrote: Hi List, Using PD extended on Ubuntu 10.04. From PD I want to control some audio streams playing in cvlc via the shell object. For a change I DO want to use PulseAudio and I don't want PD to make sound! If I start PD (off course without pasuspend) with -noaudio it still automatically takes away pulseaudio. How can I start PD extended without it trying to influence anything audio, so not touching oss/alsa/jack/pulseaudio or whatever stops PulseAudio? Thanks, Bart -- -/\/\/\/\/\/\- Bart Koppe b...@a-bort.org http://a-bort.org -\/\/\/\/\/\/- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs -- -/\/\/\/\/\/\- Bart Koppe Bergsingel 47B 3037 GA Rotterdam 06-40704051 b...@a-bort.org aim/msn/skype bartkoppe http://a-bort.org -\/\/\/\/\/\/- kill your television -- -/\/\/\/\/\/\- Bart Koppe b...@a-bort.org http://a-bort.org -\/\/\/\/\/\/- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended fedora 64bit
Thanks, I got everything there except faac. Now I get this: g++ -c -g -O2 -fPIC -freg-struct-return -O3 -falign-loops=32 -falign-functions=32 -falign-jumps=32 -funroll-loops -ffast-math -mmmx -fopenmp -I/usr/include/ImageMagick -I/usr/include/lqt -I/usr/include/mpeg3 -I/usr/include/avifile-0.7 -I/usr/include/FTGL -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I.. -I/usr/include/FTGL -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/home/bbarros/Documents/Pd-0.41.4-extended/pd/src recordQT4L.cpp -o ../Objects/recordQT4L.o recordQT4L.cpp: In function ‘lqt_file_type_t guess_qtformat(const char*)’: recordQT4L.cpp:96: error: invalid conversion from ‘const char*’ to ‘char*’ make[3]: *** [recordQT4L.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/bbarros/Documents/Pd-0.41.4-extended/Gem/src/Pixes' make[2]: *** [Pixes] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/bbarros/Documents/Pd-0.41.4-extended/Gem/src' make[1]: *** [/home/bbarros/Documents/Pd-0.41.4-extended/Gem/src/Gem.pd_linux] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bbarros/Documents/Pd-0.41.4-extended/packages' make: *** [install] Error 2 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] numberbox with empty label x-offset value
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010, Peter Plessas wrote: something funny happens in Pd when the x-offset value of the label in the properties dialog of a numberbox [nbx] is not set at all. Xorg eats all CPU for a while and creates a strange-looking object that can't be erased. Also look at what the scrollbar is doing. The visible portion of the object is probably over 10px wide. You can compensate for it by writing your x-offset at the beginning of the y-offset box as long as both values are separated by a space. This should be reproduceable in most Pd versions, yes, all of them except desiredata _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [getfilenames] alpha test release
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Oops, right. I looked at my auto-screenshot tool, which uses [folder_list], and it's using a messagebox with add2, to build a list from the output of [folder_list]. But I only remembered using the list, not how I got to have a list in the first place. Seems like [folder_list] should probably output a proper list... can anyone shed any light on the advantages of the two approaches? the list output approach allows to use [list split] on it in any way you want... go back and forth... access items by index. First-next and start-next approaches are good when you're really thin on memory and have lots of files, which is very relative, considering how much RAM we have to waste these days. The latter would have more of an advantage if you needed to output multi-element entries, especially when those entries have variable number of elements, but that typically doesn't happen with something like [folder_list] (it could happen for some other classes for which you'd ask yourself that question). It's related to the lack of nested-lists in Pd. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [getfilenames] alpha test release
On 26/07/10 17:14, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 15 Jul 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Oops, right. I looked at my auto-screenshot tool, which uses [folder_list], and it's using a messagebox with add2, to build a list from the output of [folder_list]. But I only remembered using the list, not how I got to have a list in the first place. Seems like [folder_list] should probably output a proper list... can anyone shed any light on the advantages of the two approaches? Getting a folder listing is not an atomic operation, and interfaces that try present it as atomic are made of fail (for example, try using GIMP's file open dialog in a directory containing 1+ files - I ended up having to kill GIMP from the console because I couldn't wait for the cancel button to be operable). the list output approach allows to use [list split] on it in any way you want... go back and forth... access items by index. First-next and start-next approaches are good when you're really thin on memory and have lots of files, which is very relative, considering how much RAM we have to waste these days. The latter would have more of an advantage if you needed to output multi-element entries, especially when those entries have variable number of elements, but that typically doesn't happen with something like [folder_list] (it could happen for some other classes for which you'd ask yourself that question). It's related to the lack of nested-lists in Pd. Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [getfilenames] alpha test release
Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: On 26/07/10 17:14, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 15 Jul 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Oops, right. I looked at my auto-screenshot tool, which uses [folder_list], and it's using a messagebox with add2, to build a list from the output of [folder_list]. But I only remembered using the list, not how I got to have a list in the first place. Seems like [folder_list] should probably output a proper list... can anyone shed any light on the advantages of the two approaches? Getting a folder listing is not an atomic operation, and interfaces that try present it as atomic are made of fail (for example, try using GIMP's file open dialog in a directory containing 1+ files - I ended up having to kill GIMP from the console because I couldn't wait for the cancel button to be operable). That sounds like an argument against the one big list interface. I wonder if a glob would similarly barf, because globbing is one big operation, then you iterate thru it. So representing that as a list isn't so far off. But maybe globbing is quite efficient... I don't know I haven't tested it tho. .hc the list output approach allows to use [list split] on it in any way you want... go back and forth... access items by index. First-next and start-next approaches are good when you're really thin on memory and have lots of files, which is very relative, considering how much RAM we have to waste these days. The latter would have more of an advantage if you needed to output multi-element entries, especially when those entries have variable number of elements, but that typically doesn't happen with something like [folder_list] (it could happen for some other classes for which you'd ask yourself that question). It's related to the lack of nested-lists in Pd. Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd earthquake notifier
Sure! Just give me some days to finish it... (i am adding an auto-update option and showing the localtime). But it will be difficult to make it work (for most people), messy patch, lots of dependencies... pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd with pulse?
hi, my os: ubuntu 10.4 pd-extended 0.42.5-rc4 when opening pd, no other application can use the soundcard. is pd able to use pulse? if not, what is the solution to not block other application from using the soundcard? pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Auto unique number tagging of gui objects
Hi, Is there a way to scan a patch (and then it's child subpatches and theirs etc. etc.) and assign a unique consecutive number to each graphical object? For example say I have 4 sliders in a patch I want to number them so that the labels now read say 001, 002, 003 and 004 and they now respond to messages sent to r-001, r-002,..etc. and they are now sending information on s-001, s-002,..etc. And also this patch calls upon an abstraction that has 3 toggles and I want them to be labelled, sending and receiving through 005, 006 and 007 etc. etc. I want to know if I can automate this task so that I can apply it to patches I've already made. I know I am probably re-inventing the wheel here but I want to do this in vanilla hopefully. My goal is for any gui parameter to be able to modulate any other parameter (as long as they are of the same type) simply by typing two numbers into number boxes that will link them. A simple modulation matrix of sorts. Cheers as always, John. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd with pulse?
i think the choices are alsa and jack. jack would be a good choice for everything. You can connect audio between applications, and even pulseaudio can send audio to jack. my pd version dont work well with jack, I dont know why. Maybe I did something wrong during instalation. 2010/7/26 patrick pured...@11h11.com hi, my os: ubuntu 10.4 pd-extended 0.42.5-rc4 when opening pd, no other application can use the soundcard. is pd able to use pulse? if not, what is the solution to not block other application from using the soundcard? pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
