Re: [PD] openpanel crash

2010-08-28 Thread András Murányi
...or Hans or Max Neupert may be able to help you...

2010/8/29 Miller Puckette 

> Cool... I'm not sure how to run mac Apps 'remotely' (-NXHost worked 20
> years ago but seems to be no longer :)  so the path of least resistance
> for me is still likely to be to stalk a machine at UCSD.
>
> thanks
> M
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 12:01:32AM +0200, András Murányi wrote:
> > This one, by any chance?
> > http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MacOSX106X8664
> >
> > BTW, we are working on a new, buildbot based builder network, and
> buildbot's
> > "try" feature is just for this kind of testing purpose
> > http://buildbot.net/buildbot/docs/latest/try.html
> > (I'm not saying you should wait until it becomes available, because there
> is
> > still much work to go!)
> >
> >
> > Andras
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Miller Puckette  wrote:
> >
> > > Damn... time for me to go squat a 10.6 machine somewhere...
> > >
> > > M
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 05:40:11PM -0400, William Brent wrote:
> > > > Gave it a shot, but no luck.  Let me know if anything else comes to
> > > > mind and I can check it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Miller Puckette 
> wrote:
> > > > > thanks for the reminder... I still have no way to reproduce this
> one,
> > > > > but I saw something to 'improve' in... if you're feeling proactive,
> try
> > > > > replacing the pdtk_openpanel and pdtk_savepanel routines in
> > > > > tcl/wheredoesthisgo.tcl with...
> > > > >
> > > > > proc pdtk_openpanel {target localdir} {
> > > > >if {! [file isdirectory $localdir]} {
> > > > >if { ! [file isdirectory $::fileopendir]} {
> > > > >set ::fileopendir $::env(HOME)
> > > > >}
> > > > >set localdir $::fileopendir
> > > > >}
> > > > >set filename [tk_getOpenFile -initialdir $localdir]
> > > > >if {$filename ne ""} {
> > > > >set ::fileopendir [file dirname $filename]
> > > > >pdsend "$target callback [enquote_path $filename]"
> > > > >}
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > proc pdtk_savepanel {target localdir} {
> > > > >if {! [file isdirectory $localdir]} {
> > > > >if { ! [file isdirectory $::filenewdir]} {
> > > > >set ::filenewdir $::env(HOME)
> > > > >}
> > > > >set localdir $::filenewdir
> > > > >}
> > > > >set filename [tk_getSaveFile -initialdir $localdir]
> > > > >if {$filename ne ""} {
> > > > >pdsend "$target callback [enquote_path $filename]"
> > > > >}
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > (no recompilation needed) and see if that helps.
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers
> > > > > M
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 03:59:05PM -0400, William Brent wrote:
> > > > >> Just wanted to raise this thread again while there's so much
> progress
> > > > >> being made.  Sorry if it's already an item on the to do list.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I still get the openpanel crash consistently with OSX 10.6.4 with
> > > > >> Pd-0.43-0test2 (as well as Pd-0.42-5).  As Alexandre said, the
> only
> > > > >> fix is to create a new patch with [openpanel] in it, then open the
> > > > >> patch you actually want to use.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> William
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Alexandre Porres <
> por...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > hey, I am using 10.6.3 as well... damn...
> > > > >> > well...
> > > > >> > cheers
> > > > >> > ___
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> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> William Brent
> > > > >> www.williambrent.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> “Great minds flock together”
> > > > >> Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century
> > > > >>
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> > > >
> > > > “Great minds flock together”
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> > > >
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[PD] pd at Gentoo

2010-08-28 Thread alexandros
Hello!

I would like to install pd on my Gentoo Linux. I have installed the
overlay, but emerge does not find anything like pd, pure-data, puredata.
Could please somebody help? My architecture is amd64.

Thanks for any help or advice.

Best Regards

Alexandros

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Re: [PD] openpanel crash

2010-08-28 Thread Miller Puckette
Cool... I'm not sure how to run mac Apps 'remotely' (-NXHost worked 20
years ago but seems to be no longer :)  so the path of least resistance
for me is still likely to be to stalk a machine at UCSD.

thanks
M
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 12:01:32AM +0200, András Murányi wrote:
> This one, by any chance?
> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MacOSX106X8664
> 
> BTW, we are working on a new, buildbot based builder network, and buildbot's
> "try" feature is just for this kind of testing purpose
> http://buildbot.net/buildbot/docs/latest/try.html
> (I'm not saying you should wait until it becomes available, because there is
> still much work to go!)
> 
> 
> Andras
> 
> On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Miller Puckette  wrote:
> 
> > Damn... time for me to go squat a 10.6 machine somewhere...
> >
> > M
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 05:40:11PM -0400, William Brent wrote:
> > > Gave it a shot, but no luck.  Let me know if anything else comes to
> > > mind and I can check it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Miller Puckette  wrote:
> > > > thanks for the reminder... I still have no way to reproduce this one,
> > > > but I saw something to 'improve' in... if you're feeling proactive, try
> > > > replacing the pdtk_openpanel and pdtk_savepanel routines in
> > > > tcl/wheredoesthisgo.tcl with...
> > > >
> > > > proc pdtk_openpanel {target localdir} {
> > > >if {! [file isdirectory $localdir]} {
> > > >if { ! [file isdirectory $::fileopendir]} {
> > > >set ::fileopendir $::env(HOME)
> > > >}
> > > >set localdir $::fileopendir
> > > >}
> > > >set filename [tk_getOpenFile -initialdir $localdir]
> > > >if {$filename ne ""} {
> > > >set ::fileopendir [file dirname $filename]
> > > >pdsend "$target callback [enquote_path $filename]"
> > > >}
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > proc pdtk_savepanel {target localdir} {
> > > >if {! [file isdirectory $localdir]} {
> > > >if { ! [file isdirectory $::filenewdir]} {
> > > >set ::filenewdir $::env(HOME)
> > > >}
> > > >set localdir $::filenewdir
> > > >}
> > > >set filename [tk_getSaveFile -initialdir $localdir]
> > > >if {$filename ne ""} {
> > > >pdsend "$target callback [enquote_path $filename]"
> > > >}
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > (no recompilation needed) and see if that helps.
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > > M
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 03:59:05PM -0400, William Brent wrote:
> > > >> Just wanted to raise this thread again while there's so much progress
> > > >> being made.  Sorry if it's already an item on the to do list.
> > > >>
> > > >> I still get the openpanel crash consistently with OSX 10.6.4 with
> > > >> Pd-0.43-0test2 (as well as Pd-0.42-5).  As Alexandre said, the only
> > > >> fix is to create a new patch with [openpanel] in it, then open the
> > > >> patch you actually want to use.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> William
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Alexandre Porres 
> > wrote:
> > > >> > hey, I am using 10.6.3 as well... damn...
> > > >> > well...
> > > >> > cheers
> > > >> > ___
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> > > >> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> William Brent
> > > >> www.williambrent.com
> > > >>
> > > >> “Great minds flock together”
> > > >> Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century
> > > >>
> > > >> www.conflations.com
> > > >>
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > “Great minds flock together”
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Re: [PD] openpanel crash

2010-08-28 Thread András Murányi
This one, by any chance?
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MacOSX106X8664

BTW, we are working on a new, buildbot based builder network, and buildbot's
"try" feature is just for this kind of testing purpose
http://buildbot.net/buildbot/docs/latest/try.html
(I'm not saying you should wait until it becomes available, because there is
still much work to go!)


Andras

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Miller Puckette  wrote:

> Damn... time for me to go squat a 10.6 machine somewhere...
>
> M
>
> On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 05:40:11PM -0400, William Brent wrote:
> > Gave it a shot, but no luck.  Let me know if anything else comes to
> > mind and I can check it.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Miller Puckette  wrote:
> > > thanks for the reminder... I still have no way to reproduce this one,
> > > but I saw something to 'improve' in... if you're feeling proactive, try
> > > replacing the pdtk_openpanel and pdtk_savepanel routines in
> > > tcl/wheredoesthisgo.tcl with...
> > >
> > > proc pdtk_openpanel {target localdir} {
> > >if {! [file isdirectory $localdir]} {
> > >if { ! [file isdirectory $::fileopendir]} {
> > >set ::fileopendir $::env(HOME)
> > >}
> > >set localdir $::fileopendir
> > >}
> > >set filename [tk_getOpenFile -initialdir $localdir]
> > >if {$filename ne ""} {
> > >set ::fileopendir [file dirname $filename]
> > >pdsend "$target callback [enquote_path $filename]"
> > >}
> > > }
> > >
> > > proc pdtk_savepanel {target localdir} {
> > >if {! [file isdirectory $localdir]} {
> > >if { ! [file isdirectory $::filenewdir]} {
> > >set ::filenewdir $::env(HOME)
> > >}
> > >set localdir $::filenewdir
> > >}
> > >set filename [tk_getSaveFile -initialdir $localdir]
> > >if {$filename ne ""} {
> > >pdsend "$target callback [enquote_path $filename]"
> > >}
> > > }
> > >
> > > (no recompilation needed) and see if that helps.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > M
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 03:59:05PM -0400, William Brent wrote:
> > >> Just wanted to raise this thread again while there's so much progress
> > >> being made.  Sorry if it's already an item on the to do list.
> > >>
> > >> I still get the openpanel crash consistently with OSX 10.6.4 with
> > >> Pd-0.43-0test2 (as well as Pd-0.42-5).  As Alexandre said, the only
> > >> fix is to create a new patch with [openpanel] in it, then open the
> > >> patch you actually want to use.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> William
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Alexandre Porres 
> wrote:
> > >> > hey, I am using 10.6.3 as well... damn...
> > >> > well...
> > >> > cheers
> > >> > ___
> > >> > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
> > >> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> > >> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> William Brent
> > >> www.williambrent.com
> > >>
> > >> “Great minds flock together”
> > >> Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century
> > >>
> > >> www.conflations.com
> > >>
> > >> ___
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > William Brent
> > www.williambrent.com
> >
> > “Great minds flock together”
> > Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century
> >
> > www.conflations.com
>
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Re: [PD] openpanel crash

2010-08-28 Thread Miller Puckette
Damn... time for me to go squat a 10.6 machine somewhere...

M

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 05:40:11PM -0400, William Brent wrote:
> Gave it a shot, but no luck.  Let me know if anything else comes to
> mind and I can check it.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Miller Puckette  wrote:
> > thanks for the reminder... I still have no way to reproduce this one,
> > but I saw something to 'improve' in... if you're feeling proactive, try
> > replacing the pdtk_openpanel and pdtk_savepanel routines in
> > tcl/wheredoesthisgo.tcl with...
> >
> > proc pdtk_openpanel {target localdir} {
> >    if {! [file isdirectory $localdir]} {
> >        if { ! [file isdirectory $::fileopendir]} {
> >            set ::fileopendir $::env(HOME)
> >        }
> >        set localdir $::fileopendir
> >    }
> >    set filename [tk_getOpenFile -initialdir $localdir]
> >    if {$filename ne ""} {
> >        set ::fileopendir [file dirname $filename]
> >        pdsend "$target callback [enquote_path $filename]"
> >    }
> > }
> >
> > proc pdtk_savepanel {target localdir} {
> >    if {! [file isdirectory $localdir]} {
> >        if { ! [file isdirectory $::filenewdir]} {
> >            set ::filenewdir $::env(HOME)
> >        }
> >        set localdir $::filenewdir
> >    }
> >    set filename [tk_getSaveFile -initialdir $localdir]
> >    if {$filename ne ""} {
> >        pdsend "$target callback [enquote_path $filename]"
> >    }
> > }
> >
> > (no recompilation needed) and see if that helps.
> >
> > cheers
> > M
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 03:59:05PM -0400, William Brent wrote:
> >> Just wanted to raise this thread again while there's so much progress
> >> being made.  Sorry if it's already an item on the to do list.
> >>
> >> I still get the openpanel crash consistently with OSX 10.6.4 with
> >> Pd-0.43-0test2 (as well as Pd-0.42-5).  As Alexandre said, the only
> >> fix is to create a new patch with [openpanel] in it, then open the
> >> patch you actually want to use.
> >>
> >>
> >> William
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Alexandre Porres  
> >> wrote:
> >> > hey, I am using 10.6.3 as well... damn...
> >> > well...
> >> > cheers
> >> > ___
> >> > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
> >> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> >> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> William Brent
> >> www.williambrent.com
> >>
> >> “Great minds flock together”
> >> Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century
> >>
> >> www.conflations.com
> >>
> >> ___
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> William Brent
> www.williambrent.com
> 
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> Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century
> 
> www.conflations.com

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Re: [PD] openpanel crash

2010-08-28 Thread William Brent
Gave it a shot, but no luck.  Let me know if anything else comes to
mind and I can check it.



On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Miller Puckette  wrote:
> thanks for the reminder... I still have no way to reproduce this one,
> but I saw something to 'improve' in... if you're feeling proactive, try
> replacing the pdtk_openpanel and pdtk_savepanel routines in
> tcl/wheredoesthisgo.tcl with...
>
> proc pdtk_openpanel {target localdir} {
>    if {! [file isdirectory $localdir]} {
>        if { ! [file isdirectory $::fileopendir]} {
>            set ::fileopendir $::env(HOME)
>        }
>        set localdir $::fileopendir
>    }
>    set filename [tk_getOpenFile -initialdir $localdir]
>    if {$filename ne ""} {
>        set ::fileopendir [file dirname $filename]
>        pdsend "$target callback [enquote_path $filename]"
>    }
> }
>
> proc pdtk_savepanel {target localdir} {
>    if {! [file isdirectory $localdir]} {
>        if { ! [file isdirectory $::filenewdir]} {
>            set ::filenewdir $::env(HOME)
>        }
>        set localdir $::filenewdir
>    }
>    set filename [tk_getSaveFile -initialdir $localdir]
>    if {$filename ne ""} {
>        pdsend "$target callback [enquote_path $filename]"
>    }
> }
>
> (no recompilation needed) and see if that helps.
>
> cheers
> M
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 03:59:05PM -0400, William Brent wrote:
>> Just wanted to raise this thread again while there's so much progress
>> being made.  Sorry if it's already an item on the to do list.
>>
>> I still get the openpanel crash consistently with OSX 10.6.4 with
>> Pd-0.43-0test2 (as well as Pd-0.42-5).  As Alexandre said, the only
>> fix is to create a new patch with [openpanel] in it, then open the
>> patch you actually want to use.
>>
>>
>> William
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Alexandre Porres  wrote:
>> > hey, I am using 10.6.3 as well... damn...
>> > well...
>> > cheers
>> > ___
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>> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
>> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> William Brent
>> www.williambrent.com
>>
>> “Great minds flock together”
>> Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century
>>
>> www.conflations.com
>>
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Re: [PD] openpanel crash

2010-08-28 Thread Miller Puckette
thanks for the reminder... I still have no way to reproduce this one,
but I saw something to 'improve' in... if you're feeling proactive, try
replacing the pdtk_openpanel and pdtk_savepanel routines in
tcl/wheredoesthisgo.tcl with...

proc pdtk_openpanel {target localdir} {
if {! [file isdirectory $localdir]} {
if { ! [file isdirectory $::fileopendir]} {
set ::fileopendir $::env(HOME)
}
set localdir $::fileopendir
}
set filename [tk_getOpenFile -initialdir $localdir]
if {$filename ne ""} {
set ::fileopendir [file dirname $filename]
pdsend "$target callback [enquote_path $filename]"
}
}

proc pdtk_savepanel {target localdir} {
if {! [file isdirectory $localdir]} {
if { ! [file isdirectory $::filenewdir]} {
set ::filenewdir $::env(HOME)
}
set localdir $::filenewdir
}
set filename [tk_getSaveFile -initialdir $localdir]
if {$filename ne ""} {
pdsend "$target callback [enquote_path $filename]"
}
}

(no recompilation needed) and see if that helps.

cheers
M



On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 03:59:05PM -0400, William Brent wrote:
> Just wanted to raise this thread again while there's so much progress
> being made.  Sorry if it's already an item on the to do list.
> 
> I still get the openpanel crash consistently with OSX 10.6.4 with
> Pd-0.43-0test2 (as well as Pd-0.42-5).  As Alexandre said, the only
> fix is to create a new patch with [openpanel] in it, then open the
> patch you actually want to use.
> 
> 
> William
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Alexandre Porres  wrote:
> > hey, I am using 10.6.3 as well... damn...
> > well...
> > cheers
> > ___
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> >
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] openpanel crash

2010-08-28 Thread William Brent
Just wanted to raise this thread again while there's so much progress
being made.  Sorry if it's already an item on the to do list.

I still get the openpanel crash consistently with OSX 10.6.4 with
Pd-0.43-0test2 (as well as Pd-0.42-5).  As Alexandre said, the only
fix is to create a new patch with [openpanel] in it, then open the
patch you actually want to use.


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> hey, I am using 10.6.3 as well... damn...
> well...
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Re: [PD] multiblob without luminosity

2010-08-28 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 08/28/2010 07:07 AM, ronni montoya wrote:
> Hello pd list. I would like to know if its possible or if there is a
> way to have something like the pix_multiblob object but not based on
> luminosity but instead on background substraction.
> I been seen that with opencv it is possible to track blobs based on
> backgound substraction instead of luminosity. How can i achieve this
> in puredata?
> 

[pix_multiblob] actually has nothing to do with "luminosity".
it internally uses a single-channel image.
if you pass it an RGB image. it will convert to the single-channel image
based on luminosity.
if you pass it a grey-scale image, it will simply accept that as the input.

it doesn't care about the semantics.

so you only have to create a single channel (aka greyscale) image that
"is" what you need (e.g. difference between a background image and the
current frame), then you can feed that to the object and be happy.


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Re: [PD] howto get "pool"

2010-08-28 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Fri, 27 Aug 2010, Thomas Grill wrote:

Is the only possibility, to declare the "::new" operators as static 
inline or so, in the *.h files ? (I think I did that for a while in GF, 
but I removed those completely several years ago because I wasn't 
really using them anymore)
I ithink using an anonymous namespace (a more recent C++ language 
feature) would be possible...


The anonymous namespace feature is there because of the 'static' mess in 
C++. This mess comes from the expansion of the original meanings of 
'static' in conflicting ways (this comes from the C language's double 
meaning of 'static' in the first place).


So really, anonymous namespaces are only needed when you need to hide 
symbols in this compilation so that the linker doesn't see it, but in a 
context where the 'static' word already means «this is a class variable 
instead of an object variable» or «this is a class method instead of an 
object method». Incidentally it can also be used as a shortcut for not 
having to write "static" in front of 242 different names.


I just wrote this because I thought you could say static in front of a 
global operator new, but one can't, so, yes, it has to be using anonymous 
namespaces...


however, using namespaces in flext would make flext-based projects 
backwards incompatible.


But do people use flext as .so file ? if not, then any old code will run 
with an old version of flext while a new one gets installed. I say that 
because the only change would be to make the global 'operator new' a part 
of the .h instead of the .a ...


Alternately, I suppose you can achieve a lot of the same effect by putting 
operator new in a common superclass, but it depends on what you use 
'operator new' for...


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Re: [PD] multiblob without luminosity

2010-08-28 Thread ydego...@gmail.com

well, errr, there is opencv for pure data ( pdp or gem ) :
http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv

but i think it's not linked anywhere, hum, yes,
i love democracy

ciao,
sevy


ronni montoya wrote:

Hello pd list. I would like to know if its possible or if there is a
way to have something like the pix_multiblob object but not based on
luminosity but instead on background substraction.
I been seen that with opencv it is possible to track blobs based on
backgound substraction instead of luminosity. How can i achieve this
in puredata?


thanks in advance


Ronni Montoya Huamani

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Re: [PD] abstraction precedence

2010-08-28 Thread Derek Holzer
You could also remove the clashing libraries from your startup list, if 
you know which ones are causing the trouble. But this makes your patches 
far less portable.

D.

On 8/28/10 1:17 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:


If I had been using Pd Extended when I was working at the patch, I would
have detected and avoided any name clash at the very moment of saving
each new abstraction I would create.

But now that the patch was done and I wanted to open it in Pd Extended,
I just wondered if there was a way that would save me the pain of
checking every abstraction.



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Re: [PD] laptop for pd/gem

2010-08-28 Thread pierre

Le 27 août 2010 à 18:40, cyrille henry a écrit :

> hello,
> 
> the driver that cause problem was online for 1 week, and there was huge 
> announce that you should not use it.

that's right,
I just posted this short story to point that a driver can (sometimes) cause big 
troubles


> i had a A8JS, and then a N80 (both was almost the same computer, but with 
> everything upgraded. i can use both battery in the same laptop by example).
> i think the N81 is also almost the same, updated computer.
> asus are the only one to provide 14 inch laptop with "good" gpu.
> 
> for now, i think nvidia still provide better driver than ati, but things 
> slowly improve on ati.
> 
> cyrille




Thanks all for your feedback, I just ordered a dell vostro 3700
good specs, (1600x900 pix, nvidia 330m, i5, hdd 7200rpm, retro light 
keyboard...) for a 'not so high' price
And this computer don't use nvidia optimus (*), so I can use integrated intel 
graphic or nvidia, just have to uncheck an option in the bios.

(*) http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=144750

p.


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Re: [PD] abstraction precedence

2010-08-28 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette



You're asking "how do i win a fight?" and i'd say "avoid the fight" :o)
what i'm saying is you could rename those abstractions,


Yep.
I would have called them something else in the first place, had I known 
there were Pd Extended objects with those names.


If I had been using Pd Extended when I was working at the patch, I would 
have detected and avoided any name clash at the very moment of saving 
each new abstraction I would create.


But now that the patch was done and I wanted to open it in Pd Extended, 
I just wondered if there was a way that would save me the pain of 
checking every abstraction.


Since there isn't, I'll just rename them or put them in a folder.

thanks
m.


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Re: [PD] multiblob without luminosity

2010-08-28 Thread Derek Holzer
You want [pix_background]. Please see attached patch, originally by Ben 
Bogart.


D.

On 8/28/10 7:07 AM, ronni montoya wrote:

Hello pd list. I would like to know if its possible or if there is a
way to have something like the pix_multiblob object but not based on
luminosity but instead on background substraction.
I been seen that with opencv it is possible to track blobs based on
backgound substraction instead of luminosity. How can i achieve this
in puredata?



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