[PD] [OT] Mounting Android devices (was Re: pd for Motorola Xoom)

2011-05-30 Thread Chris McCormick 
Hi Patrick,

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 03:20:18PM -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> I am still unsure how to unzip files on this device.

If it is like other Android devices then you can plug it into your computer and 
have it appear as an external hard drive that you can arbitrarily copy/modify 
files on:

http://www.androidcentral.com/use-phone-hard-drive

You may need to select "Mount as disk drive" by pulling down the drawer thing 
from the top of the screen, or you may get a popup when you plug it in or 
something like that.

Once you have done that you can find the 'sdcard' folder and create a new 
folder in it called 'pd'. You can then unzip the files on your computer and 
copy them into sdcard/pd that you have just created. After that unmount the 
drive as you normally would with an external hard drive.

Cheers,

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Re: [PD] pd for Motorola Xoom

2011-05-30 Thread Pagano, Patrick 
Right now all I was able to get running was the pdtest.apk. I am trying to grok 
exactly what I need to build to get this running. Do I build pd mobile and then 
transfer it to the xoom? I am still unsure how to unzip files on this device. 
Any basic hand holding your willing to do would be greatly appreciated

Patrick Pagano B.S.,M.F.A
Digital Media Engineer
UF Digital Worlds Institute
(352)294-2020


On May 30, 2011, at 1:59 PM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner"  wrote:

> 
> For rjdj, you'll want to get the ScenePlayer app, its an Android rjdj  
> client.
> 
> .hc
> 
> On May 30, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chris
>> Wow, that looks cool and I will try it today!
>> My Goal is to have a real version of pd replete with GEM&
>> pidip/pdp/Gridflow running so I can run my VJ performance patches live
>> during shows, but I was really gauging if I bought this thing too  
>> early
>> and I would just be frustrated for a year or not. But it looks like  
>> you
>> all are making some wonderful headway with this. I DO NOT thing  
>> android is
>> going to fade away and this might be the best way for us to get Pure  
>> Data
>> running completely on mobile devices, though rjdj is pretty amazing  
>> and I
>> still NEED to make a scene for that this coming year.
>> 
>> I wil try Droid party and report back ASAP
>> 
>> pp
>> 
>> On 5/30/11 9:33 AM, "Chris McCormick"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Patrick,
>>> 
>>> If all you want to do is get your patches running on your tablet so  
>>> you
>>> can interact/play them, you could try PdDroidParty. This lets you  
>>> create
>>> GUIs in Pd and then emulates those GUIs on the device's screen whilst
>>> using libpd to actually run the patches on the device. At the  
>>> moment only
>>> sliders and toggles are supported but I plan to support lots more  
>>> widgets
>>> (numberboxes + comments are next). Check the demo patches and feel  
>>> free
>>> to post here with any questions:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If anyone is interested in sponsoring this development I could devote
>>> more time to it. :)
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 08:02:02PM -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
 I tried the PdTEst and it works and gives me two very smooth sine  
 tones,
 the circle of fifths patch and the sceneplayer both crash and do not
 run.
 I am excited to see the development of pd on these mobile devices. I
 think
 some of the other coding is a bit out of my league. How far off do  
 you
 think a full pd for Android is? A year?
 
 pp
 
 
 
 
 
 On 5/29/11 4:19 PM, "Pedro Lopes"  wrote:
 
> And by the way, i mean this: http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pd-for-android
> and the people are (at least for what I know): Peter Brinkmann and
> Chris McCormick (kudos to them, once again).
> 
> Best,
> Pedro
> 
> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Pedro Lopes > 
> wrote:
>> 
>> There's a lot of stuff from some members of this list (kudos to  
>> them)
>> that are working with pd on android. I'm not a mobile dev  
>> myself, and
 I
>> just done really basic experiments with libpd ad it worked for me
>> (http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages/Libpd).
>> Could be a starting point.
>> 
>> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Pagano, Patrick
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello
>>> I just got a Motorola Xoom for an early birthday Gift and I was
>>> wondering HOW TO get pure data to run on Honeycomb 3.1. I would  
>>> love
 to
>>> see if it will run my patches for Pd. I have about two weeks to  
>>> test
>>> the device out before I am allowed to return it. The purchase was
 from
>>> Best buy in the US. So my goals are actually to get Pure Data and
>>> SuperCollider to run on the thing if possible.
>>> I see that there is a how to in the developer section but it  
>>> seems a
>>> few months old and I am not sure the best way to proceed in
>>> building/compiling pd for this mobile device.
>>> Can someone point me in the right direction for getting this to
 work,
>>> or have any info on IF it will work at all?
>>> pp
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Re: [PD] backwards ead~

2011-05-30 Thread Andy Farnell 



You might be able to easily get that behaviour by
quickly editing the example I gave you.

The maths is really geometry.

There are a few things that can be done as time domain
transforms when thinking about envelopes and suchlike
in this way.

1) Flip it around zero with [*~ -1]
2) Invert arithmetically wrt 1.0 using [sig~ 1][-~]
3) Get the [min~] or the [max~] wrt another value
4) Clamp at a value using [clip~] ... is special case of (3) 
5) Shift by an amount using [-~] or [+~]
6) Scale by some factor with [*~]

IIRC the idiom for a two stage envelope like that is
to use [min~]/[max~] to create a split point and treat
each of the two branches differently (you can do piecewise
waveform construction the same way).

If you want time symmetry then have the [vline~] go to 1.0
and back to [0.0] and just use one of the branches.
 


On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:45:55 +0200
Stephan Elliot Perez  wrote:

> Greetings,
>  Thank you for your responses.  I tried your suggestion, hardoff, and
> the result is the attached [ead-reverse~].  Unfortunately, the expression
> behaves differently with this [vline~]-construction as with the [phasor~].
> Here, if 1 is entered into the right input of [expr~], the result is an
> envelope whose steepness becomes exponentially smaller while ascending and
> exponentially greater while descending (if near 0, the opposite form is
> produced and values between 1 and 0 produce a divided, confused form). I
> however wish to produce an envelope that becomes exponentially steeper both
> ascending and descending.
>  My problem with this [expr~] as well as with Mr. Farnell's patches is
> that I do not quite understand the math behind them.  Any ideas?
> 
> Best regards,
> Stephan Elliot Perez
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 5:54 PM, hard off  wrote:
> 
> > instead of the [phaser~], send a [line~] (or [vline~]) signal.
> >
> > for example:
> >
> > [1, 0.5 500, 0 1000 500(
> > |
> > [vline~]
> >
> >
> > like most of my patches, i don't think i originally made that one, someone
> > else posted it, and i just copied.   ;)
> > must have been a long time ago though, cos i barely remember it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Stephan Elliot Perez <
> > dreamoftheshoreofanotherwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Greetings,
> >>I wish to produce a wave form with the opposite form of the normal
> >> ead~ wave (the curves become exponentially steeper instead of flatter),
> >> which I can achieve by entering a negative number into the phasor in hard
> >> off's exact-ead~ patch, which I downloaded from the archive.  However, I
> >> still want to be able to independently change the length of the ascent,
> >> decline, and distance between waves as is possible with ead~.  Does anyone
> >> know how I could do this, or possibly have access to an abstraction-version
> >> of ead~?
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Stephan
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] completion-plugin new version

2011-05-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner 


On May 30, 2011, at 9:59 AM, yvan volochine wrote:


On 05/30/2011 03:28 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2011, yvan volochine wrote:

On 05/21/2011 11:46 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
You need to modify the 'find' method in the canvas class. You  
make one
version that doesn't auto-select an item, but instead sends a  
list of

all matches to the tcl side for your use.

[SNIP]
that's what I meant, it's currently not possible in a gui-plugin  
(i.e.

in tcl only)


And then what ?

You don't have to stick to the assumption that GUI plugins have to be
Tcl only.


http://puredata.info/docs/guiplugins:
"From Pd 0.43 on, Tcl/Tk plugins can be used to add optional  
functionality to the GUI..."


no need to be agressive, I'm (kinda) back into pd after years away  
and didn't follow pd recent development, I assumed that Gui-Plugins  
had to be Tcl/Tk plugins (as stated on this page).


anyway, I don't know C and shouldn't have any free time soon so feel  
free to implement this requested s/r behavior.


cheers,
_y



The GUI plugin stuff is all Tcl/Tk right now. That said, you could  
write a Tcl/Tk extension in C, and include that in a GUI plugin.  I  
don't think anyone has done that yet.  I was hoping to see a working  
Python/Tkinter GUI plugin for Pd, I think that should be possible  
without a lot of work.


.hc




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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] completion-plugin new version

2011-05-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner 


On May 30, 2011, at 3:22 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 2011-05-27 17:12, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


You have to compile Pd against Tcl/Tk 8.5 to make it work with  
8.5.  If



hmm, but 0.43 is not compiled against any version of tcl/tk but uses a
tcl/tk interpreter found on the disk.
or is this some special trick with how the binary is started on OSX?



The Pd.app is actually the wish program (i.e Pd.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd  
== /usr/bin/wish).  So I misspoke when I said compiled.  But if you  
have a Pd.app that includes the 8.4 Wish then it won't really work  
with 8.5 Tcl/Tk frameworks.


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Re: [PD] pd for Motorola Xoom

2011-05-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner 


For rjdj, you'll want to get the ScenePlayer app, its an Android rjdj  
client.


.hc

On May 30, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:


Hi Chris
Wow, that looks cool and I will try it today!
My Goal is to have a real version of pd replete with GEM&
pidip/pdp/Gridflow running so I can run my VJ performance patches live
during shows, but I was really gauging if I bought this thing too  
early
and I would just be frustrated for a year or not. But it looks like  
you
all are making some wonderful headway with this. I DO NOT thing  
android is
going to fade away and this might be the best way for us to get Pure  
Data
running completely on mobile devices, though rjdj is pretty amazing  
and I

still NEED to make a scene for that this coming year.

I wil try Droid party and report back ASAP

pp

On 5/30/11 9:33 AM, "Chris McCormick"  wrote:


Hi Patrick,

If all you want to do is get your patches running on your tablet so  
you
can interact/play them, you could try PdDroidParty. This lets you  
create

GUIs in Pd and then emulates those GUIs on the device's screen whilst
using libpd to actually run the patches on the device. At the  
moment only
sliders and toggles are supported but I plan to support lots more  
widgets
(numberboxes + comments are next). Check the demo patches and feel  
free

to post here with any questions:



If anyone is interested in sponsoring this development I could devote
more time to it. :)

Cheers,

Chris.

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 08:02:02PM -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
I tried the PdTEst and it works and gives me two very smooth sine  
tones,

the circle of fifths patch and the sceneplayer both crash and do not
run.
I am excited to see the development of pd on these mobile devices. I
think
some of the other coding is a bit out of my league. How far off do  
you

think a full pd for Android is? A year?

pp





On 5/29/11 4:19 PM, "Pedro Lopes"  wrote:


And by the way, i mean this: http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pd-for-android
and the people are (at least for what I know): Peter Brinkmann and
Chris McCormick (kudos to them, once again).

Best,
Pedro

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Pedro Lopes >

wrote:


There's a lot of stuff from some members of this list (kudos to  
them)
that are working with pd on android. I'm not a mobile dev  
myself, and

I

just done really basic experiments with libpd ad it worked for me
(http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages/Libpd).
Could be a starting point.

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Pagano, Patrick
 wrote:


Hello
I just got a Motorola Xoom for an early birthday Gift and I was
wondering HOW TO get pure data to run on Honeycomb 3.1. I would  
love

to
see if it will run my patches for Pd. I have about two weeks to  
test

the device out before I am allowed to return it. The purchase was

from

Best buy in the US. So my goals are actually to get Pure Data and
SuperCollider to run on the thing if possible.
I see that there is a how to in the developer section but it  
seems a

few months old and I am not sure the best way to proceed in
building/compiling pd for this mobile device.
Can someone point me in the right direction for getting this to

work,

or have any info on IF it will work at all?
pp
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Re: [PD] pd for Motorola Xoom

2011-05-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner 


Yes, its a fully working Pd minus the Tcl/Tk GUI.  Externals are also  
possible, you just have to build them for Android.


.hc

On May 30, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Chris McCormick wrote:

As far as I know this is not the full Pd (including tcl/tk guis  
etc.) I think that Hans means that Pd runs on the device as a  
library embedded in other applications. If I am wrong I would love  
to hear about it!


Cheers,

Chris.

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 01:11:41AM -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

How about an .apk of pd on  puredata.info? :-)


pp

On 5/29/11 10:16 PM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner"  wrote:



Full Pd for Android is here now and working as well as a sound app  
can
on Android.  Android 3.1 is very new, so you're on the cutting  
edge.  If

you haven't already, I'd build the apps from source and try that.
Otherwise, there needs to be some fixes for 3.1

.hc

On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 20:02 -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
I tried the PdTEst and it works and gives me two very smooth sine  
tones,
the circle of fifths patch and the sceneplayer both crash and do  
not

run.
I am excited to see the development of pd on these mobile  
devices. I

think
some of the other coding is a bit out of my league. How far off  
do you

think a full pd for Android is? A year?

pp





On 5/29/11 4:19 PM, "Pedro Lopes"  wrote:


And by the way, i mean this: http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pd-for-android
and the people are (at least for what I know): Peter Brinkmann and
Chris McCormick (kudos to them, once again).

Best,
Pedro

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Pedro Lopes >

wrote:


There's a lot of stuff from some members of this list (kudos to  
them)
that are working with pd on android. I'm not a mobile dev  
myself, and

I

just done really basic experiments with libpd ad it worked for me
(http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages/Libpd).
Could be a starting point.

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Pagano, Patrick
 wrote:


Hello
I just got a Motorola Xoom for an early birthday Gift and I was
wondering HOW TO get pure data to run on Honeycomb 3.1. I  
would love

to
see if it will run my patches for Pd. I have about two weeks  
to test
the device out before I am allowed to return it. The purchase  
was

from
Best buy in the US. So my goals are actually to get Pure Data  
and

SuperCollider to run on the thing if possible.
I see that there is a how to in the developer section but it  
seems a

few months old and I am not sure the best way to proceed in
building/compiling pd for this mobile device.
Can someone point me in the right direction for getting this to

work,

or have any info on IF it will work at all?
pp
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Re: [PD] backwards ead~

2011-05-30 Thread Stephan Elliot Perez 
Greetings,
 Thank you for your responses.  I tried your suggestion, hardoff, and
the result is the attached [ead-reverse~].  Unfortunately, the expression
behaves differently with this [vline~]-construction as with the [phasor~].
Here, if 1 is entered into the right input of [expr~], the result is an
envelope whose steepness becomes exponentially smaller while ascending and
exponentially greater while descending (if near 0, the opposite form is
produced and values between 1 and 0 produce a divided, confused form). I
however wish to produce an envelope that becomes exponentially steeper both
ascending and descending.
 My problem with this [expr~] as well as with Mr. Farnell's patches is
that I do not quite understand the math behind them.  Any ideas?

Best regards,
Stephan Elliot Perez


On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 5:54 PM, hard off  wrote:

> instead of the [phaser~], send a [line~] (or [vline~]) signal.
>
> for example:
>
> [1, 0.5 500, 0 1000 500(
> |
> [vline~]
>
>
> like most of my patches, i don't think i originally made that one, someone
> else posted it, and i just copied.   ;)
> must have been a long time ago though, cos i barely remember it.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Stephan Elliot Perez <
> dreamoftheshoreofanotherwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>I wish to produce a wave form with the opposite form of the normal
>> ead~ wave (the curves become exponentially steeper instead of flatter),
>> which I can achieve by entering a negative number into the phasor in hard
>> off's exact-ead~ patch, which I downloaded from the archive.  However, I
>> still want to be able to independently change the length of the ascent,
>> decline, and distance between waves as is possible with ead~.  Does anyone
>> know how I could do this, or possibly have access to an abstraction-version
>> of ead~?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Stephan
>>
>>
>>
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ead-reverse~.pd
Description: Binary data


exact-ead~.pd
Description: Binary data
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Re: [PD] pd for Motorola Xoom

2011-05-30 Thread Pagano, Patrick 
Hi Chris
Wow, that looks cool and I will try it today!
My Goal is to have a real version of pd replete with GEM&
pidip/pdp/Gridflow running so I can run my VJ performance patches live
during shows, but I was really gauging if I bought this thing too early
and I would just be frustrated for a year or not. But it looks like you
all are making some wonderful headway with this. I DO NOT thing android is
going to fade away and this might be the best way for us to get Pure Data
running completely on mobile devices, though rjdj is pretty amazing and I
still NEED to make a scene for that this coming year.

I wil try Droid party and report back ASAP

pp

On 5/30/11 9:33 AM, "Chris McCormick"  wrote:

>Hi Patrick,
>
>If all you want to do is get your patches running on your tablet so you
>can interact/play them, you could try PdDroidParty. This lets you create
>GUIs in Pd and then emulates those GUIs on the device's screen whilst
>using libpd to actually run the patches on the device. At the moment only
>sliders and toggles are supported but I plan to support lots more widgets
>(numberboxes + comments are next). Check the demo patches and feel free
>to post here with any questions:
>
>
>
>If anyone is interested in sponsoring this development I could devote
>more time to it. :)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Chris.
>
>On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 08:02:02PM -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>> I tried the PdTEst and it works and gives me two very smooth sine tones,
>> the circle of fifths patch and the sceneplayer both crash and do not
>>run.
>> I am excited to see the development of pd on these mobile devices. I
>>think
>> some of the other coding is a bit out of my league. How far off do you
>> think a full pd for Android is? A year?
>> 
>> pp
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/29/11 4:19 PM, "Pedro Lopes"  wrote:
>> 
>> >And by the way, i mean this: http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pd-for-android
>> >and the people are (at least for what I know): Peter Brinkmann and
>> >Chris McCormick (kudos to them, once again).
>> >
>> >Best,
>> >Pedro
>> >
>> >On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Pedro Lopes 
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> There's a lot of stuff from some members of this list (kudos to them)
>> >>that are working with pd on android. I'm not a mobile dev myself, and
>>I
>> >>just done really basic experiments with libpd ad it worked for me
>> >>(http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages/Libpd).
>> >> Could be a starting point.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Pagano, Patrick
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello
>> >>> I just got a Motorola Xoom for an early birthday Gift and I was
>> >>>wondering HOW TO get pure data to run on Honeycomb 3.1. I would love
>>to
>> >>>see if it will run my patches for Pd. I have about two weeks to test
>> >>>the device out before I am allowed to return it. The purchase was
>>from
>> >>>Best buy in the US. So my goals are actually to get Pure Data and
>> >>>SuperCollider to run on the thing if possible.
>> >>> I see that there is a how to in the developer section but it seems a
>> >>>few months old and I am not sure the best way to proceed in
>> >>>building/compiling pd for this mobile device.
>> >>> Can someone point me in the right direction for getting this to
>>work,
>> >>>or have any info on IF it will work at all?
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Re: [PD] Spectral focusing

2011-05-30 Thread William Brent 
> I think I am looking to arrive at harmonicity
> through something like moving the frequencies of the partials into their
> closest values according to the harmonic series

A while ago I started an extern that does things in the same ballpark
as you're describing...maybe I can add that specific kind of
processing as an option as well.  If you're not up against a deadline
I can let you know when I get a chance to experiment with it in the
next few weeks.

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[PD] Non-linear spectral stretch

2011-05-30 Thread Eran Sachs 
Hello list,

Let me separate this question from my previous post:
Does anyone know how to make a non-linear spectral stretch in pd?

I'd like to transpose a sound so its spectrum is not equally transposed.

I played with ssb-modulation which perform spectral shifting, but I couldn't
figure out how to move from that to spectral stretching. Any thoughts?

Much appreciated,
Zax


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] completion-plugin new version

2011-05-30 Thread yvan volochine 

On 05/30/2011 03:28 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2011, yvan volochine wrote:

On 05/21/2011 11:46 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

You need to modify the 'find' method in the canvas class. You make one
version that doesn't auto-select an item, but instead sends a list of
all matches to the tcl side for your use.

[SNIP]
that's what I meant, it's currently not possible in a gui-plugin (i.e.
in tcl only)


And then what ?

You don't have to stick to the assumption that GUI plugins have to be
Tcl only.


http://puredata.info/docs/guiplugins:
"From Pd 0.43 on, Tcl/Tk plugins can be used to add optional 
functionality to the GUI..."


no need to be agressive, I'm (kinda) back into pd after years away and 
didn't follow pd recent development, I assumed that Gui-Plugins had to 
be Tcl/Tk plugins (as stated on this page).


anyway, I don't know C and shouldn't have any free time soon so feel 
free to implement this requested s/r behavior.


cheers,
_y

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Re: [PD] pd for Motorola Xoom

2011-05-30 Thread Chris McCormick 
Hi Patrick,

If all you want to do is get your patches running on your tablet so you can 
interact/play them, you could try PdDroidParty. This lets you create GUIs in Pd 
and then emulates those GUIs on the device's screen whilst using libpd to 
actually run the patches on the device. At the moment only sliders and toggles 
are supported but I plan to support lots more widgets (numberboxes + comments 
are next). Check the demo patches and feel free to post here with any questions:



If anyone is interested in sponsoring this development I could devote more time 
to it. :)

Cheers,

Chris.

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 08:02:02PM -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> I tried the PdTEst and it works and gives me two very smooth sine tones,
> the circle of fifths patch and the sceneplayer both crash and do not run.
> I am excited to see the development of pd on these mobile devices. I think
> some of the other coding is a bit out of my league. How far off do you
> think a full pd for Android is? A year?
> 
> pp
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/29/11 4:19 PM, "Pedro Lopes"  wrote:
> 
> >And by the way, i mean this: http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pd-for-android
> >and the people are (at least for what I know): Peter Brinkmann and
> >Chris McCormick (kudos to them, once again).
> >
> >Best,
> >Pedro
> >
> >On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Pedro Lopes 
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> There's a lot of stuff from some members of this list (kudos to them)
> >>that are working with pd on android. I'm not a mobile dev myself, and I
> >>just done really basic experiments with libpd ad it worked for me
> >>(http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages/Libpd).
> >> Could be a starting point.
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Pagano, Patrick
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello
> >>> I just got a Motorola Xoom for an early birthday Gift and I was
> >>>wondering HOW TO get pure data to run on Honeycomb 3.1. I would love to
> >>>see if it will run my patches for Pd. I have about two weeks to test
> >>>the device out before I am allowed to return it. The purchase was from
> >>>Best buy in the US. So my goals are actually to get Pure Data and
> >>>SuperCollider to run on the thing if possible.
> >>> I see that there is a how to in the developer section but it seems a
> >>>few months old and I am not sure the best way to proceed in
> >>>building/compiling pd for this mobile device.
> >>> Can someone point me in the right direction for getting this to work,
> >>>or have any info on IF it will work at all?
> >>> pp
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> >
> >
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Re: [PD] pd for Motorola Xoom

2011-05-30 Thread Chris McCormick 
As far as I know this is not the full Pd (including tcl/tk guis etc.) I think 
that Hans means that Pd runs on the device as a library embedded in other 
applications. If I am wrong I would love to hear about it!

Cheers,

Chris.

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 01:11:41AM -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> How about an .apk of pd on  puredata.info? :-)
> 
> 
> pp
> 
> On 5/29/11 10:16 PM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner"  wrote:
> 
> >
> >Full Pd for Android is here now and working as well as a sound app can
> >on Android.  Android 3.1 is very new, so you're on the cutting edge.  If
> >you haven't already, I'd build the apps from source and try that.
> >Otherwise, there needs to be some fixes for 3.1
> >
> >.hc
> >
> >On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 20:02 -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> >> I tried the PdTEst and it works and gives me two very smooth sine tones,
> >> the circle of fifths patch and the sceneplayer both crash and do not
> >>run.
> >> I am excited to see the development of pd on these mobile devices. I
> >>think
> >> some of the other coding is a bit out of my league. How far off do you
> >> think a full pd for Android is? A year?
> >> 
> >> pp
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 5/29/11 4:19 PM, "Pedro Lopes"  wrote:
> >> 
> >> >And by the way, i mean this: http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pd-for-android
> >> >and the people are (at least for what I know): Peter Brinkmann and
> >> >Chris McCormick (kudos to them, once again).
> >> >
> >> >Best,
> >> >Pedro
> >> >
> >> >On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Pedro Lopes 
> >> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> There's a lot of stuff from some members of this list (kudos to them)
> >> >>that are working with pd on android. I'm not a mobile dev myself, and
> >>I
> >> >>just done really basic experiments with libpd ad it worked for me
> >> >>(http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages/Libpd).
> >> >> Could be a starting point.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Pagano, Patrick
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hello
> >> >>> I just got a Motorola Xoom for an early birthday Gift and I was
> >> >>>wondering HOW TO get pure data to run on Honeycomb 3.1. I would love
> >>to
> >> >>>see if it will run my patches for Pd. I have about two weeks to test
> >> >>>the device out before I am allowed to return it. The purchase was
> >>from
> >> >>>Best buy in the US. So my goals are actually to get Pure Data and
> >> >>>SuperCollider to run on the thing if possible.
> >> >>> I see that there is a how to in the developer section but it seems a
> >> >>>few months old and I am not sure the best way to proceed in
> >> >>>building/compiling pd for this mobile device.
> >> >>> Can someone point me in the right direction for getting this to
> >>work,
> >> >>>or have any info on IF it will work at all?
> >> >>> pp
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> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
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> >> >> contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt
> >> >> website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes /
> >> >>http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ |
> >> >>http://twitter.com/plopesresearch
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
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> >> >contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt
> >> >website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes /
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] completion-plugin new version

2011-05-30 Thread Mathieu Bouchard 

On Mon, 23 May 2011, yvan volochine wrote:

On 05/21/2011 11:46 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

You need to modify the 'find' method in the canvas class. You make one
version that doesn't auto-select an item, but instead sends a list of
all matches to the tcl side for your use.

[SNIP]
that's what I meant, it's currently not possible in a gui-plugin (i.e. in tcl 
only)


And then what ?

You don't have to stick to the assumption that GUI plugins have to be Tcl 
only.


Actually, GUI plugins don't have to be GUI plugins.

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Re: [PD] control lot of audios files with arduino + puredata

2011-05-30 Thread Martin Peach 

On 2011-05-29 23:20, FernandoG wrote:

Hi
i need to design a sistem to control 40 diferents audio files and
playback in a stereo sistem. I was thinking to use puredata and arduino,
load the 40 audios in a pd patch and use 40 switches and resistors into
some arduino inputs to trigger and playback any of the 40 audios in pd.
Every switch will be conected to a diferent resistor to  generate
diferents voltages then arduino inputs can diferenciate witch audio to
playback. Also i need to power on a led any time a specific audio is
been playback. The 40 audios will not be playback simultanusly, but
probably al least 15 or 20 could be.

Anybody knows about a similar proyect? can i use analog input to control
various samples or its not good idea? multiplexors? do i need to use an
arduino mega or its not necesary?can i power 15-20 led simultaneously?
the best way to do this system stable for long long time?



The analog input method is similar to the resistor ladder that analog 
synthesizer keyboards used. Arduino analog inputs can differentiate 1024 
levels but the values of resistors are usually 5%, but 40 levels should 
be easy.
The best way to do LEDs is with shift registers. That way you can use 
just 3 pins on  the Arduino to control as many LEDs as you like.
For LEDs use parallel-output shift registers, like the 74HC164. Also the 
input could be done with parallel-load shift registers (for example the 
74HC165), but the resistor method is cheaper.

It should be quite stable over time.

Martin

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Re: [PD] pd for Motorola Xoom

2011-05-30 Thread Pedro Lopes 
Here (ANDROID 2.2) the circle of fifths works ine,so probably 3.1 is
too cutting edge. :)

On Monday, May 30, 2011, Pagano, Patrick  wrote:
> How about an .apk of pd on  puredata.info? :-)
>
>
> pp
>
> On 5/29/11 10:16 PM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner"  wrote:
>
>>
>>Full Pd for Android is here now and working as well as a sound app can
>>on Android.  Android 3.1 is very new, so you're on the cutting edge.  If
>>you haven't already, I'd build the apps from source and try that.
>>Otherwise, there needs to be some fixes for 3.1
>>
>>.hc
>>
>>On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 20:02 -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>>> I tried the PdTEst and it works and gives me two very smooth sine tones,
>>> the circle of fifths patch and the sceneplayer both crash and do not
>>>run.
>>> I am excited to see the development of pd on these mobile devices. I
>>>think
>>> some of the other coding is a bit out of my league. How far off do you
>>> think a full pd for Android is? A year?
>>>
>>> pp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/29/11 4:19 PM, "Pedro Lopes"  wrote:
>>>
>>> >And by the way, i mean this: http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pd-for-android
>>> >and the people are (at least for what I know): Peter Brinkmann and
>>> >Chris McCormick (kudos to them, once again).
>>> >
>>> >Best,
>>> >Pedro
>>> >
>>> >On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Pedro Lopes 
>>> >wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> There's a lot of stuff from some members of this list (kudos to them)
>>> >>that are working with pd on android. I'm not a mobile dev myself, and
>>>I
>>> >>just done really basic experiments with libpd ad it worked for me
>>> >>(http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages/Libpd).
>>> >> Could be a starting point.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Pagano, Patrick
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hello
>>> >>> I just got a Motorola Xoom for an early birthday Gift and I was
>>> >>>wondering HOW TO get pure data to run on Honeycomb 3.1. I would love
>>>to
>>> >>>see if it will run my patches for Pd. I have about two weeks to test
>>> >>>the device out before I am allowed to return it. The purchase was
>>>from
>>> >>>Best buy in the US. So my goals are actually to get Pure Data and
>>> >>>SuperCollider to run on the thing if possible.
>>> >>> I see that there is a how to in the developer section but it seems a
>>> >>>few months old and I am not sure the best way to proceed in
>>> >>>building/compiling pd for this mobile device.
>>> >>> Can someone point me in the right direction for getting this to
>>>work,
>>> >>>or have any info on IF it will work at all?
>>> >>> pp
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>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>> >> contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt
>>> >> website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes /
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>>> >>http://twitter.com/plopesresearch
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] completion-plugin new version

2011-05-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig 
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On 2011-05-27 17:12, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
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> You have to compile Pd against Tcl/Tk 8.5 to make it work with 8.5.  If


hmm, but 0.43 is not compiled against any version of tcl/tk but uses a
tcl/tk interpreter found on the disk.
or is this some special trick with how the binary is started on OSX?


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