Re: [PD] [PD-announce] MetaminaFNR A Tasty of Small Signals
Le 2011-12-04 à 10:46:00, oskoff lovich a écrit : hi All! i would like to share the new programmation of mEtamina Free Net Radio here, also the Pd code is available for dowload.. The word «swarm» is missing from the title of your announcement (but the webpage is correct) __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] install Pd on ubuntu without internet; video-playback codec windows?
Pd is for big boys and girls who control their own machines Or at very least can get on a sudo list -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Simon Wise Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 9:06 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] install Pd on ubuntu without internet; video-playback codec windows? On 04/12/11 08:36, Johnny Mauser wrote: Dear list! i am trying to install pd-extended 0.42.5 on ubuntu 10.04 and am a total beginner with any linux. I was so happy to manage to install ubuntu, but now the Package Installer asks for more and more dependencies. My machine is not allowed to connect to internet, and i go crazy copying all the dependencies via usb stick from this internet-pc to performance-pc! How to easy-install Pd? you could try apt-offline or apt-zip - they help with downloading dependencies etc using another machine for the downloads. Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [expr] license issue (update)
jMax I want that year back. From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of i go bananas Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 8:56 PM To: Jonathan Wilkes Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] [expr] license issue (update) If not, contacting the handful of developers who have worked on expr might be a workable solution. that's what i HAVE done. at the moment, it seems that we still need to contact IRCAM directly, but we just need to wait for Shahrokh to identify which jMax code was used. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [expr] license issue (update)
From: Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu To: i go bananas hard@gmail.com; Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 11:46 AM Subject: RE: [PD] [expr] license issue (update) jMax I want that year back. I don't understand what that means. What does that mean? -Jonathan From:pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of i go bananas Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 8:56 PM To: Jonathan Wilkes Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] [expr] license issue (update) If not, contacting the handful of developers who have worked on expr might be a workable solution. that's what i HAVE done. at the moment, it seems that we still need to contact IRCAM directly, but we just need to wait for Shahrokh to identify which jMax code was used. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] install Pd on ubuntu without internet; video-playback codec windows?
Le 2011-12-06 à 16:45:00, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : Pd is for big boys and girls who control their own machines Or at very least can get on a sudo list You mean dpkg and apt-get are like that ? Pd has no such requirement. Well, there's still chroot, but that's too hard to use. Any other ideas for how to install a .deb in one's $HOME without needing sudo ? Actually, that's something I wondered since 1999, but I still haven't wondered very actively about it... __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] install Pd on ubuntu without internet; video-playback codec windows?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-12-06 19:08, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Well, there's still chroot, but that's too hard to use. Any other ideas for how to install a .deb in one's $HOME without needing sudo ? $ dpkg -x pd.deb . alternatively $ ar x pd.deb $ tar xvzf data.tar.gz fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7eZB8ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvS1KQCg01BXhP1zWrCAHA9OZf0jYDur 0LcAoNENbDmaB5N+IcUod7KwsgG8PXu2 =PYtz -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] SSE/MMX tips?
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: On 07/09/11 12:17, Bill Gribble wrote: The operation is integration. Try calling it 'scan' and you might end up with more productive searches, at least to my mind integration is more about summing over continuous regions than something discrete like this. Searching for data parallel algorithm scan leads to pages like: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.85.1876rep=rep1type=pdf If I implemented [#scan] that way on one processor, it would be slower... that algorithm begins being faster (than the obvious one) if you have O(log n) processors. (yes, again forgot to send a mail long ago) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] install Pd on ubuntu without internet; video-playback codec windows?
Le 2011-12-06 à 19:51:00, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : $ dpkg -x pd.deb . alternatively $ ar x pd.deb $ tar xvzf data.tar.gz But dpkg -x doesn't run any scripts after unpacking, right ? At least, ar/tar does not run scripts for sure. Does the pd package contain any setup scripts ? But more generally, many packages do, and it would be good to know how to install them. E.g. if the pd package has any dependencies that aren't installed and that root doesn't want to install... there must be at least one of them that needs to run some kind of script ? Have you tried stuff involving --admindir and/or --root but not -x ? __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] install Pd on ubuntu without internet; video-playback codec windows?
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:29:31 -0500 (EST) Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: Le 2011-12-06 à 19:51:00, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : $ dpkg -x pd.deb . alternatively $ ar x pd.deb $ tar xvzf data.tar.gz But dpkg -x doesn't run any scripts after unpacking, right ? At least, ar/tar does not run scripts for sure. Most .deb packages require superuser permissions to install files into various places like /usr/bin, /etc or /usr/lib. Those are in the control file, use $ dpkg -c pd.deb to see all the places wheret content would be unpacked. I think IOhannes refers to unpacking a Debian source package so you can do a local build (in home directory). Source packages can be fetched using $ apt-get source puredata But then why not fetch the latest source from git/svn ? Does the pd package contain any setup scripts ? But more generally, many packages do, and it would be good to know how to install them. E.g. if the pd package has any dependencies that aren't installed and that root doesn't want to install... there must be at least one of them that needs to run some kind of script ? Have you tried stuff involving --admindir and/or --root but not -x ? __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC -- Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] install Pd on ubuntu without internet; video-playback codec windows?
Le 2011-12-06 à 20:06:00, Andy Farnell a écrit : On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:29:31 -0500 (EST) Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: I think IOhannes refers to unpacking a Debian source package so you can do a local build (in home directory). I think *I* was asking about binary packages. Well, I only assumed we were talking about binary packages. I don't know why we would be talking about source packages at all, at this point ! __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OOP practices in Pure Data
Le 2011-12-01 à 00:37:00, abel.jer...@free.fr a écrit : In fact, it's a mix of practices. The purpose is to find words to describe my practice and find what is common to be a good patching style. Ah ok, therefore it shouldn't be named « OOP practices in Pure Data ». How do you justify that $0- variables are like the «private» keyword in OOP ? It makes sense for me to use $0- variables inside an abstraction like private one. Of course, I know that it is possible to send a message outside this scope. However, it seems useful to separate variables. I mean that it doesn't look like how the «private» keyword works : instead it looks like the «this» keyword and all its implicit equivalents (any place where «this-» is implied when you don't write it). Because, like you see, it's not really a MVC design. It is more like an inspiration to design a patching architecture. Then why not refrain from calling it MVC ? Various people have created various variants of MVC by using other names than «MVC». Why would .h files and/or class interfaces, be considered as one of the three parts of MVC ? I think it is closer to the class separation between interface (.h) and implementation (.cpp) than MVC. C++ courses might instruct you that .h is the place where all interfaces go, and that .cpp is the place where all implementations go, but it's not an actual requirement of C++, and many major libraries don't use such a rule. STL is famous for putting much of the implementation in .h files. Many projects have private classes that are put entirely in .cpp files because they're never needed by any other .cpp files than the one they're in. Why don't you distinguish between messages, selectors and methods, in your naming ? Naming of variables ? No, naming of concepts ! A message is the thing you send, a selector is the part of the message that is used for choosing a method, a method is the part of the code that corresponds to a selector. In abstractions, typically, a method is a portion of a patch that appear after a [route] (or [route]-like]) object routes messages from an [inlet]. like m_fVolume for a private variable with a float type ? At this level, if I distinguish between variables and methods here, it seems not very useful. I also think that it's not useful, but it's really not what I wanted to talk about. [route setVolume setFrequency] : setter methods Pd's setters never have any prefix. That's everybody's naming conventions so far. Why do you make a subpatch for communication and then use named send/receives inside of it to send to other subpatches ? What do you gain from this ? It's a balance. Separate processing and communication is clearer for me than putting all together. Given that every object in a patch communicates with every object it's connected to, how do you distinguish between the communications that you would separate, and those that you wouldn't separate ? What are the things that we are supposed to learn from that document ? Is it useful to share thoughts with people ? Yes, but they have to know what are the portions of the patches that actually convey your point(s), versus the backend portions that aren't actually what you wanted to talk about. Those things are not identified and so, I'm not sure what am I supposed to look at and comment on, for example. I learn about your paper A Type Theory for the Documentation of Pure Data and fix a mistake. What mistake ? __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
