[PD] nop as patch chord segmentation - gui version?

2012-04-01 Thread Mirko Maier
hi list,

as some of you might use it this way, with nop / nop~ (no operation) you 
can actually have segmented patch chords in pd. i wonder if someone could write 
a gui version (a small point e.g.) which is smaller than the ordinary object 
box? i can't but i think it would be a good thing.

best
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Re: [PD] nop as patch chord segmentation - gui version?

2012-04-01 Thread Cyrille Henry

hello

i prefer using t a and +~ better than nop and nop~  since they are vanilla 
only objects.
anyway, here are simple graphical version.
 
hope that help


Cyrille


Le 01/04/2012 11:37, Mirko Maier a écrit :

hi list,

as some of you might use it this way, with nop / nop~ (no operation) you 
can actually have segmented patch chords in pd. i wonder if someone could write a gui version (a 
small point e.g.) which is smaller than the ordinary object box? i can't but i think it would be a 
good thing.

best
mirko


gnop~-help.pd
Description: application/puredata


gnop~.pd
Description: application/puredata


gnop-help.pd
Description: application/puredata


gnop.pd
Description: application/puredata
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Re: [PD] nop as patch chord segmentation - gui version?

2012-04-01 Thread Mirko Maier
super, thanx, simple solution!

best
mirko

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 Datum: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 12:04:06 +0200
 Von: Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net
 An: Mirko Maier mir...@gmx.de
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 hello
 
 i prefer using t a and +~ better than nop and nop~  since they are
 vanilla only objects.
 anyway, here are simple graphical version.
   
 hope that help
 
 Cyrille
 
 
 Le 01/04/2012 11:37, Mirko Maier a écrit :
  hi list,
 
  as some of you might use it this way, with nop / nop~ (no operation)
 you can actually have segmented patch chords in pd. i wonder if someone
 could write a gui version (a small point e.g.) which is smaller than the
 ordinary object box? i can't but i think it would be a good thing.
 
  best
  mirko

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[PD] hslider/vslider - mismatch of input and output

2012-04-01 Thread Iain Mott
Hi, I've noticed something strange with hslider and vslider. I you give
them a large range, the inputs and outputs aren't always equal or at
least they are out by a factor greater than 1. For example with the
range 0 - 55000, if you connect a number object to hslider's input and
enter 6034, the output reads 6032.68. 

Couldn't find this reported elsewhere - though perhaps i didn't search
hard enough. This result is on linux.

Cheers,
i

 


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Re: [PD] [pd] tables as patch storage

2012-04-01 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
I haven't been on this list for a long time. The first thing I see is
the same old crank acting like a crabby sour puss.

Par for the course. I think that kind of negativity spoils a lot of
productivity. Maybe you could work on social skills and how to not
come off as a jerk so much?

Peace and Love,

~Kyle

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
 Le 2012-03-27 à 17:37:00, Frank Barknecht a écrit :


 On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 08:04:37AM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

 From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
 (Of course, there are externals, but they're not the kind of thing used
 by
 the kind of people who come up with list-abs.)


 I don't know what that means.  What does that mean?


 Matju is teasing me as maintainer of list-abs as a vanilla-based library,
 deliberatly jumping to the wrong conclusion I would despise externals.
 But I ignored the remark. Or actually now I didn't.


 Well, by calling it « teasing » you're avoiding the point of my remark,
 which is essentially ignoring it. I think that you're deliberately jumping
 to the wrong conclusions about my mail, too.


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[PD] ANNOUNCE: ANTSynth - Pure Data prototype premiere

2012-04-01 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

Dear Pd community,

The international research team of which I am a humble member (PPMR - 
ParaPonera Music Research) is proud to release today the first working 
prototype of ANTSynth (see below) developed as Pure Data patch.
Attached is a standalone prototype patch which should work directly in 
Pd (make sure DSP is working and use the main toggle to start).


Testing and (constructive) critique are very welcome (please consider 
this is very preliminary!!)


Regards,
Lorenzo.

A little background on Antsynth (more details and links in the patch and 
future posts):


ANTSynth is a cutting edge, innovative synthesis method. It stands for 
Ant Stimulation Turmoil Synthesis. Inspired by Natural Science, Biology 
and pioneering Engineer studies it creates unique additive-aggregate 
mesh-able (over)tones with complete formations of broad spectra which in 
turn the modern composer can imply (we think) in any composition.
ANT synthesis is inspired by the Natural Sciences as it translates into 
sound some of the most interesting patterns of ants' complex social 
behaviour as outlined by Ted R. Schultz in his paper “In search of ant 
ancestors”. ANTSynth is created by an international team of biologists, 
engineers, sound designers and programmers (PPMR) and will be released 
as Open Source in the hope that it will be useful for the future 
generations of researchers, sound designers, artist, biologists, composers.
Many questions and issues about the feasibility and optimisation of 
ANTSynth remain but preliminary results seem to be promising.


Minimal background bibliography:

D. Moody , A Field Study of the Ant Trail Phenomenon , Division of 
Natural Science , The University of Findlay , 2000
John M. Chowning, The Synthesis of Complex Audio Spectra by Means of 
Frequency Modulation, Journal of the Audio Engineering Society, 1973
Julius O. Smith III. Additive Synthesis (Early Sinusoidal Modeling). 
Retrieved 2012-01-14. The term additive synthesis refers to sound 
being formed by adding together many sinusoidal components - 
https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/sasp/Additive_Synthesis_Early_Sinusoidal.html 

Ettershank, G. 1965. A new modular-design artificial ant nest. Turtox 
News, 43:42–43.
Holldobler, B., M. Moglich, and U. Maschwitz. 1974. Communication by 
tandem running in the  ant Camponotus sericeus. Journal of Comparative 
Physiology, 90:105–127.
Horn, D. J. 1976. Biology of insects. W. B. Saunders, Philadelphia. 
[Pages 3, 16–31, 207–208,  238–240]
Jacobson, M. 1972. Insect sex pheromones. Academic Press, New York. 
[Pages 1–2, 79–100,  and 101–120]
Markin, G. P. 1968. Handling techniques for large quantities of ants. 
Journal of Economic  Entomology, 61:1744–1745.

Moody, D. L. 1981. Ant trails. The American Biology Teacher, 43:452–453.
Wilson, E. O. 1963. Pheromones. Scientific American, 208:100–114.
#N canvas 133 68 828 535 10;
#X obj 69 247 t f f;
#X obj 69 303 + 1;
#X obj 186 146 sel 1;
#X obj 69 116 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0
1;
#X obj 69 334 tabwrite ants;
#X obj 69 278 tabread ants;
#X obj 11 303 sel 1000;
#X msg 21 329 0;
#X obj 11 365 f;
#X floatatom 11 386 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X obj 121 163 timer;
#X obj 121 137 loadbang;
#X msg 121 183 seed \$1;
#X obj 222 514 dac~;
#X floatatom 222 386 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X msg 104 620 \; winner label;
#X msg 416 468 \; ants const 0;
#X obj 558 55 cnv 15 130 30 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -260097 -4034
0;
#X obj 563 60 cnv 15 120 20 empty winner empty 18 9 0 16 -33289 -4034
0;
#X obj 312 483 line~;
#X obj 331 423 t b;
#X obj 222 491 *~;
#X obj 474 371 cnv 15 299 28 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -33289 -4034
0;
#X obj 476 371 cnv 15 295 26 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -258113 -4034
0;
#X obj 479 371 cnv 15 289 20 empty empty ant_home 100 12 0 14 -228856
-1 0;
#X obj 455 170 cnv 15 340 200 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -177922
-66577 0;
#X obj 474 190 cnv 15 300 180 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -261234
-66577 0;
#N canvas 0 0 450 300 (subpatch) 0;
#X array ants 67 float 2;
#X coords 0 1000 67 0 300 200 1;
#X restore 474 170 graph;
#X obj 473 146 cnv 15 68 20 empty empty empty 13 12 0 12 -262144 -1
0;
#X msg 248 146 \; pd dsp \$1;
#X obj 248 116 tgl 20 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -204786 -1 -1 0
1;
#X msg 261 665 \; winner label WINNER:\$1;
#X obj 416 444 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144
-1 -1;
#X text 390 427 reset ants;
#X obj 222 409 tabosc4~ ants;
#X obj 222 432 /~ 1000;
#X msg 312 398 1 20;
#X obj 362 484 t b;
#X msg 331 463 0 100;
#X obj 269 116 cnv 15 15 20 empty empty empty 18 9 0 16 -257985 -33289
0;
#X text 273 117 - start audio first;
#X obj 363 507 del 105;
#X obj 331 443 del 2000;
#X obj 69 220 random 67;
#X obj 258 6 cnv 15 250 30 empty banner ANT_Synth 20 12 0 18 -1 -257985
0;
#X obj 70 137 metro 1;
#X obj 333 44 tgl 30 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -4034 -1 -1 0 1
;
#X msg 77 592 \; banner label HAPPY_APRIL'S_FOOL!!;
#X obj 104 654 t b;
#X msg 263 628 \; banner label ANT_Synth;
#X obj 333 77 t f f;
#X obj 

Re: [PD] ANNOUNCE: ANTSynth - Pure Data prototype premiere

2012-04-01 Thread Andrew Faraday


Love it!

I suggest you look for research funding for that ASAP

Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:59:12 +0200
From: lorenzofsut...@gmail.com
To: pd-list@iem.at
Subject: [PD] ANNOUNCE: ANTSynth - Pure Data prototype premiere

Dear Pd community,
 
The international research team of which I am a humble member (PPMR - 
ParaPonera Music Research) is proud to release today the first working 
prototype of ANTSynth (see below) developed as Pure Data patch.
Attached is a standalone prototype patch which should work directly in 
Pd (make sure DSP is working and use the main toggle to start).
 
Testing and (constructive) critique are very welcome (please consider 
this is very preliminary!!)
 
Regards,
Lorenzo.
 
A little background on Antsynth (more details and links in the patch and 
future posts):
 
ANTSynth is a cutting edge, innovative synthesis method. It stands for 
Ant Stimulation Turmoil Synthesis. Inspired by Natural Science, Biology 
and pioneering Engineer studies it creates unique additive-aggregate 
mesh-able (over)tones with complete formations of broad spectra which in 
turn the modern composer can imply (we think) in any composition.
ANT synthesis is inspired by the Natural Sciences as it translates into 
sound some of the most interesting patterns of ants' complex social 
behaviour as outlined by Ted R. Schultz in his paper “In search of ant 
ancestors”. ANTSynth is created by an international team of biologists, 
engineers, sound designers and programmers (PPMR) and will be released 
as Open Source in the hope that it will be useful for the future 
generations of researchers, sound designers, artist, biologists, composers.
Many questions and issues about the feasibility and optimisation of 
ANTSynth remain but preliminary results seem to be promising.
 
Minimal background bibliography:
 
D. Moody , A Field Study of the Ant Trail Phenomenon , Division of 
Natural Science , The University of Findlay , 2000
John M. Chowning, The Synthesis of Complex Audio Spectra by Means of 
Frequency Modulation, Journal of the Audio Engineering Society, 1973
Julius O. Smith III. Additive Synthesis (Early Sinusoidal Modeling). 
Retrieved 2012-01-14. The term additive synthesis refers to sound 
being formed by adding together many sinusoidal components - 
https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/sasp/Additive_Synthesis_Early_Sinusoidal.html 
 
Ettershank, G. 1965. A new modular-design artificial ant nest. Turtox 
News, 43:42–43.
Holldobler, B., M. Moglich, and U. Maschwitz. 1974. Communication by 
tandem running in the  ant Camponotus sericeus. Journal of Comparative 
Physiology, 90:105–127.
Horn, D. J. 1976. Biology of insects. W. B. Saunders, Philadelphia. 
[Pages 3, 16–31, 207–208,  238–240]
Jacobson, M. 1972. Insect sex pheromones. Academic Press, New York. 
[Pages 1–2, 79–100,  and 101–120]
Markin, G. P. 1968. Handling techniques for large quantities of ants. 
Journal of Economic  Entomology, 61:1744–1745.
Moody, D. L. 1981. Ant trails. The American Biology Teacher, 43:452–453.
Wilson, E. O. 1963. Pheromones. Scientific American, 208:100–114.

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Re: [PD] ANNOUNCE: ANTSynth - Pure Data prototype premiere

2012-04-01 Thread alessandro contini
:D

On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Tyler Leavitt thecryofl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Very nice!


 On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.comwrote:

  Love it!

 I suggest you look for research funding for that ASAP

 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:59:12 +0200
 From: lorenzofsut...@gmail.com
 To: pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: [PD] ANNOUNCE: ANTSynth - Pure Data prototype premiere


 Dear Pd community,

 The international research team of which I am a humble member (PPMR -


 ParaPonera Music Research) is proud to release today the first working
 prototype of ANTSynth (see below) developed as Pure Data patch.
 Attached is a standalone prototype patch which should work directly in
 Pd (make sure DSP is working and use the main toggle to start).



 Testing and (constructive) critique are very welcome (please consider
 this is very preliminary!!)

 Regards,
 Lorenzo.

 A little background on Antsynth (more details and links in the patch and


 future posts):

 ANTSynth is a cutting edge, innovative synthesis method. It stands for
 Ant Stimulation Turmoil Synthesis. Inspired by Natural Science, Biology
 and pioneering Engineer studies it creates unique additive-aggregate


 mesh-able (over)tones with complete formations of broad spectra which in
 turn the modern composer can imply (we think) in any composition.
 ANT synthesis is inspired by the Natural Sciences as it translates into


 sound some of the most interesting patterns of ants' complex social
 behaviour as outlined by Ted R. Schultz in his paper “In search of ant
 ancestors”. ANTSynth is created by an international team of biologists,


 engineers, sound designers and programmers (PPMR) and will be released
 as Open Source in the hope that it will be useful for the future
 generations of researchers, sound designers, artist, biologists, composers.


 Many questions and issues about the feasibility and optimisation of
 ANTSynth remain but preliminary results seem to be promising.

 Minimal background bibliography:

 D. Moody , A Field Study of the Ant Trail Phenomenon , Division of


 Natural Science , The University of Findlay , 2000
 John M. Chowning, The Synthesis of Complex Audio Spectra by Means of
 Frequency Modulation, Journal of the Audio Engineering Society, 1973
 Julius O. Smith III. Additive Synthesis (Early Sinusoidal Modeling).


 Retrieved 2012-01-14. The term additive synthesis refers to sound
 being formed by adding together many sinusoidal components -
 https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/sasp/Additive_Synthesis_Early_Sinusoidal.html



 Ettershank, G. 1965. A new modular-design artificial ant nest. Turtox
 News, 43:42–43.
 Holldobler, B., M. Moglich, and U. Maschwitz. 1974. Communication by
 tandem running in the  ant Camponotus sericeus. Journal of Comparative


 Physiology, 90:105–127.
 Horn, D. J. 1976. Biology of insects. W. B. Saunders, Philadelphia.
 [Pages 3, 16–31, 207–208,  238–240]
 Jacobson, M. 1972. Insect sex pheromones. Academic Press, New York.
 [Pages 1–2, 79–100,  and 101–120]


 Markin, G. P. 1968. Handling techniques for large quantities of ants.
 Journal of Economic  Entomology, 61:1744–1745.
 Moody, D. L. 1981. Ant trails. The American Biology Teacher, 43:452–453.
 Wilson, E. O. 1963. Pheromones. Scientific American, 208:100–114.


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Re: [PD] hslider/vslider - mismatch of input and output

2012-04-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I think that's because it normalizes the values based on the pixel granularity 
of the slider.  That's just a guess.

.hc

On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Iain Mott wrote:

 Hi, I've noticed something strange with hslider and vslider. I you give
 them a large range, the inputs and outputs aren't always equal or at
 least they are out by a factor greater than 1. For example with the
 range 0 - 55000, if you connect a number object to hslider's input and
 enter 6034, the output reads 6032.68. 
 
 Couldn't find this reported elsewhere - though perhaps i didn't search
 hard enough. This result is on linux.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [PD] hslider/vslider - mismatch of input and output

2012-04-01 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Indeed, that is the most likely reason. If you have ability/willpower to 
try pd-l2ork version of hslider/vslider, this problem is solved in that 
any values that pass through the slider set to linearly scale between 
specific values remain unaltered (apart from outer edges of the slider). 
However, any values that result from moving the slider will be adjusted 
based on the slider's position in respect to the overall slider.


HTH

Ico

On 04/01/2012 07:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

I think that's because it normalizes the values based on the pixel granularity 
of the slider.  That's just a guess.

.hc

On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Iain Mott wrote:


Hi, I've noticed something strange with hslider and vslider. I you give
them a large range, the inputs and outputs aren't always equal or at
least they are out by a factor greater than 1. For example with the
range 0 - 55000, if you connect a number object to hslider's input and
enter 6034, the output reads 6032.68.

Couldn't find this reported elsewhere - though perhaps i didn't search
hard enough. This result is on linux.

Cheers,
i




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