[PD] moog~ in pure pd?

2013-10-11 Thread Dan Wilcox
Forgive me, I'm no low level dsp guru. I'm curious. How would one make the ggee 
[moog~] external in pure pd?

[vcf~] sounds close, but of course, it's a band pass so it's not a real 
replacement. I messed with rjlib [e_beequad= + [u_lowpassq] which sounds pretty 
good, but there no signal rate frequency control, which I'd need for those nice 
filter sweeps. I'm trying to lessen my reliance on externals (where possible) 
and moog~ is one of those without an obvious replacement.


Dan Wilcox
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45-3 released

2013-10-11 Thread Jaime E Oliver
Hi!

Thanks miller for the update. 

A weird thing is happening to me in OSX 10.8.

Using both the latest release and 0.43-3, when I open the help patch for bonk I 
loose the ability to move between edit mode and run mode.

Is this happening to other people?

J

On Oct 4, 2013, at 1:21 AM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Pd version 0.45-3 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
 or via git from sourceforge:
  git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/pure-data
  cd pure-data
  git checkout -b 0.45
 
 This fixes text pasting from other apps to Pd and an audio problem (Mac
 native audio devices running at 48K required huge latencies).
 
 cheers
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45-3 released

2013-10-11 Thread peiman khosravi
It seems that focus is on the window behind (creation-arguments), even if
you click on the main patcher window.




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On 11 October 2013 08:10, Jaime E Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!

 Thanks miller for the update.

 A weird thing is happening to me in OSX 10.8.

 Using both the latest release and 0.43-3, when I open the help patch for
 bonk I loose the ability to move between edit mode and run mode.

 Is this happening to other people?

 J

 On Oct 4, 2013, at 1:21 AM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  Pd version 0.45-3 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
  or via git from sourceforge:
   git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/pure-data
   cd pure-data
   git checkout -b 0.45
 
  This fixes text pasting from other apps to Pd and an audio problem (Mac
  native audio devices running at 48K required huge latencies).
 
  cheers
  Miller
 
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[PD] build pd with jack in raspbian on rpi?

2013-10-11 Thread Julian Brooks
Hi all,

I'm attempting to build pd with jack in raspbian on rpi.

I've got most recent pd from git.

I'm following instructions from INSTALL.txt as I have a memory of IOhannes
mentioning that's working again - and also it's the only way I know of
adding the '--enable-jack' flag.

Or so I thought:
./autogen.sh seems fine but
./configure --enable-jack
Doesn't build pd with jack support.
 (outputs below)

Any ideas anyone?

Regards,

Julian

P.S. Happy to do it 'Miller's way'
 cd to src and hit
'make -f makefile.gnu'. 
but how to add jack support to this method I don't know.


pure@pi ~/pure-data $ ./autogen.sh
autoreconf: Entering directory `.'
autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext
autoreconf: running: aclocal --force -I m4/generated -I m4
autoreconf: configure.ac: tracing
autoreconf: configure.ac: adding subdirectory portaudio to autoreconf
autoreconf: Entering directory `portaudio'
autoreconf: configure.in: not using Gettext
autoreconf: running: aclocal --force
autoreconf: configure.in: tracing
autoreconf: configure.in: subdirectory bindings/cpp not present
autoreconf: running: libtoolize --copy --force
libtoolize: putting auxiliary files in `.'.
libtoolize: copying file `./ltmain.sh'
libtoolize: Consider adding `AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR([m4])' to configure.in and
libtoolize: rerunning libtoolize, to keep the correct libtool macros
in-tree.
libtoolize: Consider adding `-I m4' to ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS in Makefile.am.
autoreconf: running: /usr/bin/autoconf --force
autoreconf: configure.in: not using Autoheader
autoreconf: configure.in: not using Automake
autoreconf: Leaving directory `portaudio'
libtoolize: putting auxiliary files in AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR, `m4/config'.
libtoolize: copying file `m4/config/ltmain.sh'
libtoolize: putting macros in AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR, `m4/generated'.
libtoolize: copying file `m4/generated/libtool.m4'
libtoolize: copying file `m4/generated/ltoptions.m4'
libtoolize: copying file `m4/generated/ltsugar.m4'
libtoolize: copying file `m4/generated/ltversion.m4'
libtoolize: copying file `m4/generated/lt~obsolete.m4'
autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Autoheader
autoreconf: running: automake --add-missing --copy --force-missing
autoreconf: Leaving directory `.'

pure@pi ~/pure-data $ ./configure --enable-jack
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... mawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
checking build system type... armv6l-unknown-linux-gnueabihf
checking host system type... armv6l-unknown-linux-gnueabihf
configure: iPhone SDK only available for arm-apple-darwin hosts, skipping
tests
configure: Android SDK only available for arm-linux hosts, skipping tests
checking for style of include used by make... none
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking for suffix of executables...
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... none
checking how to print strings... printf
checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /bin/sed
checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep
checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E
checking for fgrep... /bin/grep -F
checking for ld used by gcc... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking for BSD- or MS-compatible name lister (nm)... /usr/bin/nm -B
checking the name lister (/usr/bin/nm -B) interface... BSD nm
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 1572864
checking whether the shell understands some XSI constructs... yes
checking whether the shell understands +=... yes
checking how to convert armv6l-unknown-linux-gnueabihf file names to
armv6l-unknown-linux-gnueabihf format... func_convert_file_noop
checking how to convert armv6l-unknown-linux-gnueabihf file names to
toolchain format... func_convert_file_noop
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking for objdump... objdump
checking how to recognize dependent libraries... pass_all
checking for dlltool... dlltool
checking how to associate runtime and link libraries... printf %s\n
checking for ar... ar
checking for archiver @FILE support... @
checking for strip... strip
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok
checking for sysroot... no
checking for mt... mt
checking if mt is a manifest tool... no
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for 

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45-3 released

2013-10-11 Thread Julian Brooks
Yip, had this for a while (debian).

Seems to be shortcut keys that stop but using drop-down menu works (here at
least).


On 11 October 2013 08:20, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com wrote:

 It seems that focus is on the window behind (creation-arguments), even
 if you click on the main patcher window.




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 On 11 October 2013 08:10, Jaime E Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!

 Thanks miller for the update.

 A weird thing is happening to me in OSX 10.8.

 Using both the latest release and 0.43-3, when I open the help patch for
 bonk I loose the ability to move between edit mode and run mode.

 Is this happening to other people?

 J

 On Oct 4, 2013, at 1:21 AM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  Pd version 0.45-3 is available on
 http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
  or via git from sourceforge:
   git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/pure-data
   cd pure-data
   git checkout -b 0.45
 
  This fixes text pasting from other apps to Pd and an audio problem (Mac
  native audio devices running at 48K required huge latencies).
 
  cheers
  Miller
 
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Re: [PD] build pd with jack in raspbian on rpi?

2013-10-11 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 2013-10-11 09:23, Julian Brooks wrote:
 checking for jack_set_xrun_callback in -ljack... no
 checking for jack_set_error_function in -ljack... no

you have to install libjack-dev.

a good start to install all/most packages needed to build jack (at least
with the same features as the puredata packages) is:

# aptitude build-dep puredata

fmgaer
IOhannes



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Re: [PD] build pd with jack in raspbian on rpi?

2013-10-11 Thread Julian Brooks
Great stuff, nice one IOhannes.




On 11 October 2013 10:03, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:

 On 2013-10-11 09:23, Julian Brooks wrote:
  checking for jack_set_xrun_callback in -ljack... no
  checking for jack_set_error_function in -ljack... no

 you have to install libjack-dev.

 a good start to install all/most packages needed to build jack (at least
 with the same features as the puredata packages) is:

 # aptitude build-dep puredata

 fmgaer
 IOhannes


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Re: [PD] moog~ in pure pd?

2013-10-11 Thread martin brinkmann
On 10/11/2013 08:32 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:

 [vcf~] sounds close, but of course, it's a band pass so it's not a real 
 replacement.

the undocumented 2nd output of vcf~ is a lowpass. and there are a few
methods to build the basic (cookbook) filters with pd-vanilla-objects:
you could use fexpr~ to make your own signal-rate biquad. it works very
well, but needs a lot more cpu than necessary. or you could use
cpole~/czero~. like in the beequad-abstractions. i have used the same
method in all my filters, with signal-rate. (in my instruments
collection on my homepage). of course this is still not exactly
moog~. it should be possible though to make a moog-abstraction
in the same way, but i have not tried (yet)...
maybe anyone else has already?

bis denn!
martin

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[PD] datastructures midirecorder

2013-10-11 Thread Rob Bothof

dear list,

i've been working with pd for a couple of years and finally diving into 
data-structures/scalars

to build a midi recorder / looper.

is there a way to delete a scalar, without selecting it with the mouse ? 
or does one generally

specify an active state parameter for each scalar.

greets,
Rob

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdp 0.14.0

2013-10-11 Thread Tom Schouten




while preparing the package for debian, i noticed two more issues:

- - the (lib)v4l check in configure seems to be confused. namely

AC_CHECK_HEADERS([libv4l1-videodev.h], have_v4l=yes)
AC_CHECK_HEADERS([linux/videodev.h], have_libv4l=yes)

seems to be reversed: if libv4l1-videodev.h is found, then libv4l is
installed; if linux/videodev.h then the (old, deprecated)
kernel-header for native v4l1 support is detected. the attached patch
swaps the two checks.

thanks for the patch.



- - closing the glx window quits Pd without error :-(


strange.  for me window close doesn't work at all (tried on xmonad and 
xfce4)

what window manager are you using?




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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdp 0.14.0

2013-10-11 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 2013-10-11 15:04, Tom Schouten wrote:
 - - closing the glx window quits Pd without error :-(
 
 strange.  for me window close doesn't work at all (tried on xmonad and
 xfce4)
 what window manager are you using?
 

xfce4.

if you cannot [close( the window, try closing the patch containing
[pdp_glx] (that's how i discovered the problem: doing some routine
tests, i wanted to close the patch window to proceed to the next example
- only to find myself back on the cmdline; after doing that 3 times i
checked...)

anyhow, i cannot reproduce the problem right now with an intel gfx card
(uagh; lspci only gives me Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor
Graphics Controller; according to lenovo it's an Intel® HD 4000
Graphics).

the machine i had the problems with had another gfx card and used some
proprietary driver (radeon, but iirc it also happened on another
machine with nvidia)


fgards
IOhannes



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdp 0.14.0

2013-10-11 Thread puredata

for me many objects aren't working:

pdp_conv_sobel_edge
... couldn't create
 pdp_gradient
... couldn't create
 pdp_motion_phase
... couldn't create

but pdp_gain, pdp_glx, pdp_v4l, pdp_add etc are working.



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Re: [PD] datastructures midirecorder

2013-10-11 Thread Patrice Colet
Hello Rob,

 scalars can't be deleted actually without the GUI, but there are several 
tricks for doing something like it.

One is about using float indexes instead of using pointer order, and then set 
to -1 or another value that doesn't count
the scalars that have to be removed, and finally use a temporary structure for 
cleaning.
Another one is about using one scalar and an array for including your 
structure, so you can delete values inside element.
It's also possible to save, modify, and reload the structure with using a text 
file.

Just in case you are interested about using tcltk instead of datastructure for 
drawing your GUI (it still uses DS for sequencing)

I've shared a work in progress:

http://megalego.free.fr/pd/patko/proll/

Colet Patrice

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 Objet: [PD] datastructures midirecorder
 
 dear list,
 
 i've been working with pd for a couple of years and finally diving
 into
 data-structures/scalars
 to build a midi recorder / looper.
 
 is there a way to delete a scalar, without selecting it with the
 mouse ?
 or does one generally
 specify an active state parameter for each scalar.
 
 greets,
 Rob
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdp 0.14.0

2013-10-11 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 2013-10-11 20:59, pured...@11h11.com wrote:
 for me many objects aren't working:
 
 pdp_conv_sobel_edge
 ... couldn't create
  pdp_gradient
 ... couldn't create
  pdp_motion_phase
 ... couldn't create
 
 but pdp_gain, pdp_glx, pdp_v4l, pdp_add etc are working.

many pdp objects are really abstractions.
so you either have to `install` pdp (which will put all abstractions
into .../pd/extra) or add the `abstractions/` folder to your searchpath.

gfmdsar
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Re: [PD] datastructures midirecorder

2013-10-11 Thread João Pais

Hello Rob,

 scalars can't be deleted actually without the GUI, but there are several 
tricks for doing something like it.

One is about using float indexes instead of using pointer order, and then set 
to -1 or another value that doesn't count


you can also make inactive scalars invisible, then they're not seen. and 
though some export+import, filter these scalars out in the process.

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