[PD] Pd workshop in Vienna (Metalab), 27.+28.Nov
Hallo! At the 27.+28.11.2010 there will be a free Pure Data workshop at the Metalab (metalab.at) in Vienna, Austria. For further information see the wiki page: http://metalab.at/wiki/Pd-Workshop ! So if you are in Vienna or somewhere around in central europe, you are invited to join us ! (and please add your name to the wiki, so that I can somehow estimate how many people will come ...) Have fun, LG Georg -- http://grh.mur.at ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] script src='mypatch.pd' type='text/puredata' ?
Hey Chris ! Very nice - will have a look at it ... ;) LG Georg chrism schrieb: http://mccormick.cx/dev/webpd/tests.html For sound you will want these builds of Firefox: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Audio_Data_API Source code: http://code.google.com/p/web-pure-data/ Mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/web-pure-data/ No promises. Patches welcome! Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://grh.mur.at ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Building Pd for Android
Hallo! That's the wrong URL for SVN, sorry. I fixed it in the wiki page. It should build now then on Tuesday, we are meeting up to get the audio I/O working. Thanks - then I will try again on wednesday ;) LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Building Pd for Android
Hallo! Actually, it would be good to try building it before we meet, in case you find any problems, then we can fix it. Currently its in a works for me state. OK - but I still cannot checkout from the repository: :~/projects/android/android-ndk-1.6_r1/apps$ svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-mobile-0.43 svn: Die URL »https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-mobile-0.43« existiert nicht (the URL does not exist) LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Building Pd for Android
Hallo! Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: Ok, made some progress on building Pd for Android. It builds fine, but its not quite working yet. But give it a shot and join in the fun: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdForAndroid Nice ! I also wanted to try it today, but I have the following problem: cannot checkout the branch https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-mobile-0.43, it doesn't seem to exist ... Maybe you did not commit it yet ? Did you also try the C-Java JNI audio interface ? Thanks for any hints, LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Echo cancellation, adaptative filtering
Hallo! Does anyone implemented some echo cancellation or adaptative filtering with pd ? We made some adaptive filter: http://grh.mur.at/software/adaptive.html But I think more people did similar and more advanced things ... LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [Fwd: [piksel] pure data group in Berlin]
The following Berlin pd-meeting was announced on the piksel mailing list. LG Georg ---BeginMessage--- Hello! Next tuesday there will be a first meeting of pure data users in Berlin: We are meeting at 8pm at NK for the monthy? puredata Meeting on tuesday 15 decc, 2009. Doors are open from 8-8:15. At other time, probably they are closed and you will have to call anybody in Nk. To get a telephone number to call or confirm assistance you can write to i...@minitronics.net Elsenstr. 52 2HH 2Etage 12059 Berlin www.nkprojekt.de [bang( | [love] | [ser~] ___ piksel mailing list pik...@piksel.no https://piksel.no/mailman/listinfo/piksel http://www.piksel.no ---End Message--- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] smartphone advice
Hallo! João Pais schrieb: how about control? I was hoping of in the future perform in the middle of the room with a htc magic (or something) controlling my patch on the laptop in the stage. is osc already available in all these platforms? Yeah, there is such an application (with osc) on the android phone ... LG Georg Everything works but audio input and output, but that's in the works. Externals work too, if you use a jailbroken device, you don't need to heed Apple's lame restrictions. .hc On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:39 AM, Si Mills wrote: SO this is certainly interesting When you say Pd builds for Android and iphone, but no audio, what does that mean? THe pd gui works? I have a feeling, in the end, i might play devils advocate and go with the android phone. On 29 Oct 2009, at 18:17, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: THere are a number of developments in this regard: - Pd (pd-gui-rewrite 0.43 branch) now builds directly for Android and Apple iPhoneOS. Maemo should be pretty easy too. No audio yet, but that's in the works. - Pd has been available in the Debian-armel branch for a while, that means lots of devices if you are willing to install your own OS. You can install Debian in parallel with Android. - you can build PDa to run on a wide range of free distros, like Maemo, Familiar, Angstrom, OpenMoko, reware for ipods, Palms, etc. rjdj runs well on iPhoneOS, so that means Pd can be made to work well there. Android will take a fair amount of work to get up to the same level, but in the long run will probably be easier since the platform is a lot more open. .hc On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:34 PM, marius schebella wrote: same problem here, not sure what to get. another device that might be worth checking out is the nokia n900, which is/was scheduled for release some time this year. it runs maemo (nokia's linux version) and - at least on former versions of maemo - it was possible to get pd-anywhere running. But I have not seen/tested it, so I cannot promise anything. for now: I am not sure about the palm, the android g1, g2 both do not run pd (yet...) and I think windows mobile neither, leaves the iphone. marius. 2009/10/29 Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:33:24PM +, Si Mills wrote: to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it at the moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion on that front soon, I also feel that, and I can see some people lighting the TNT. Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. -David Zicarelli ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://grh.mur.at ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?
Hallo! I just got an android phone (linux) and was actually quite impressed. It is very user-friendly and there are also good development tools (I did not program something so far, but I will ...) However, I don't know how easy it is to port PD to android phones. The general platform is in java (because it should run hardware independent on many phones) and it's also possible to program in C - but then you maybe have to adjust your code manually to different phones ... I don't know ... For development on android see: http://developer.android.com/ BTW, there are also thousands of applications already, see e.g. http://www.cyrket.com/, also some nice basic sound apps ... LG Georg Otto Maddox schrieb: Recently I looked at RjDj and was well impressed. Now I want to get a mobile device on which to run Pd to do similar things. An iPhone is out of the question because it's such a closed and locked up platform. I started looking around at other devices, but that was a bit overwhelming. Maybe it's just because I'm new to the world of mobile computing and have missed something, but I couldn't find a single mobile hardware/software platform which is properly Free/open from top to bottom (i.e., friendly to people who don't mind getting their hands dirty), actively maintained, doesn't require me to screw myself over by taking on a contract which I can't afford (internet tablet would be ideal), and runs Pd. Is PDa still being developed? Am I asking for too much? Or is what I want already out there? -- http://grh.mur.at ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?
Wow, thanks for these tipps ... didn't know that someone already did it. I will maybe look into it after becoming a bit more familiar with this platform - would be really nice to have pd on it ! LG Georg Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: Just getting Pd on the Android phone would be easy, especially if you have rooted it. Basically, Pd-vanilla should build and run fine on Android with some minor tweaks for Android-specific macros. The only tricky part is that Pd can't use Android's ALSA, it must use the Java audio API via JNI. So that would take custom code. Once its built and has the C-Java JNI audio interface, then it shouldn't be hard to package it up and distribute it as a regular Android app. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdForAndroid .hc On Oct 12, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo! I just got an android phone (linux) and was actually quite impressed. It is very user-friendly and there are also good development tools (I did not program something so far, but I will ...) However, I don't know how easy it is to port PD to android phones. The general platform is in java (because it should run hardware independent on many phones) and it's also possible to program in C - but then you maybe have to adjust your code manually to different phones ... I don't know ... For development on android see: http://developer.android.com/ BTW, there are also thousands of applications already, see e.g. http://www.cyrket.com/, also some nice basic sound apps ... LG Georg Otto Maddox schrieb: Recently I looked at RjDj and was well impressed. Now I want to get a mobile device on which to run Pd to do similar things. An iPhone is out of the question because it's such a closed and locked up platform. I started looking around at other devices, but that was a bit overwhelming. Maybe it's just because I'm new to the world of mobile computing and have missed something, but I couldn't find a single mobile hardware/software platform which is properly Free/open from top to bottom (i.e., friendly to people who don't mind getting their hands dirty), actively maintained, doesn't require me to screw myself over by taking on a contract which I can't afford (internet tablet would be ideal), and runs Pd. Is PDa still being developed? Am I asking for too much? Or is what I want already out there? -- http://grh.mur.at ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie -- http://grh.mur.at ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pdpedia and random generation
Hallo! I don't know what you mean by clean it up by hand but if you just mean users deleting spam edits then this is not sustainable. The spam edits are automated and so they will win any editwar. To combat spam, +1 we need something systematic: block the spam IPs, use MediaWiki Spam Blacklist, or require users to create an account before they can edit. Yes, or use at least captchas (if we don't want to force people to make an account) ... LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Writing you own externals in PD How to?
Hallo! experience, aims what I would like is the easiest route to begin with :)* First rule is always: use C/C++ only if it is _really_ necessary. (you can design most of your filters also with pd's elementary filter objects ...) If you really want DSP externals: http://pdstatic.iem.at/externals-HOWTO/ LG Georg I.e. seem to have all these programs Octave (matlab), Faust, Xcode ,Flext, Terminal etc. which would be the best path to follow to learn to create my own externals. Tuition If there is anyone in the Cambridge England area who does one to one tuition and could teach me how to create my own externals please let me know. Guidance appreciated Geoff ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd book sprint in NYC/Berlin
Derek Holzer schrieb: My tendency is to keep everything as simple and low-tech as possible. Does video conferencing add anything substantial that IRC doesn't have already? Do we want to do interpretive dance for each other in order to write a FLOSS manual? Do we really need to look at another room full of people sitting behind laptops across the ocean somewhere? Does anybody ever actually watch these video streams from meetings like these? I could see some sense if there was some sort of presentation aspect, but these will be working sessions, i.e. very boring to look at . You are right. And if one really wants to speak/see each other, one can use ekiga, skype or whatever ... LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd book sprint in NYC/Berlin
Hallo! I will be in Berlin from mar27 to mar30, and I would also like to contribute to the book sprint, but it is difficult for me during week/business hours. Yes, this weekend would be also nice for me ;) ! LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GSoC web project idea
Hallo! It sounds nice, but do they support such projects ? IMHO building websites and similar things are more documentation, which is not allowed. Maybe you should ask them ... LG Georg Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: I've had an idea for a long time for a web interface to the patches that people post to the pd-list. Basically, lots of really great code is posted to the Pd list, but it is not very easy to find it there. What if there was a searchable database of all patches posted to the pd list. You could search by object name to see all patches that use a certain object, then download it. I think that someone who was a decent web programmer could do this. Perhaps using something like Lucene, or really whatever. Is it worth a summer of code project? .hc News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Hallo! i added my name to two existing projects matching my competences. Just in case Georg is too busy with all the other ones he is part of. Yes of course, feel free to add you to the projects ! I think we should have at least two mentors for each project, at least for the application now. LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Hallo Derek ! Nice projects - I also think that we need more patcher-only projects ! LG Georg Derek Holzer schrieb: Since I'm completely uninterested in touching anything C, C++, TclTk or otherwise related, I submitted two Pd patching projects which should be general enough to attract students, yet quite intensive to work on. Feedback welcome. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Undead http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GEMVeeJay Anyone want to take up 2007's PluggoPd idea? best, D. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Hallo Markus ! The same with me. interested in coding but just very rare skills.but patching. maybe the graphical userinterface which i started for gem could be interesting.As i am in the job now, i cannot send screenshots nor patches. if there is interest I put some things together tjis weekend. Yes of course - just put it on the wiki ! LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GSoC projects: take a look and improve
Hallo! Yes, please add/correct things to the projects, create new content etc. We will clean it up then at the last day ! To the categories: are the understandable ? Because I am not really happy with them ... Maybe we should order them like this: - pd patches - pd externals (C or Tcl knowledge required) - projects which touch the pd internals LG Georg Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: Hey all, Georg has been rocking out and put up a bunch of project pages on the Google Summer of Code app, Bryan and I have put up a couple as well. Take a look and improve wherever you think it needs it. It's a wiki so anyone can edit. Here is the list of the current projects for this year's application. Also, if you are a mentor, please take a look at the projects and add your name if there is any possibility that you might want to mentor that project (no commitments yet, that comes later). http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009 And here are all of the pages, in case you want to revive some pages from previous years: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code .hc Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free software means someone else controls that, and to some extent controls you. - Richard M. Stallman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Hallo! I started to put ideas together at the following WIKI page: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009 If you are interested joining one project as a mentor, please just add your name in the list of possible mentors ... Please also add your projects using the following template: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/ProjectTemplate (and look at the description of my already added projects) It should be as clear as possible for students how to start, where are the resources and etc. There are also still a lot of old projects from last year here: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas which should be copied (and polished) to the new WIKI page - so some help is really needed ! Thanks for any contribution, LG Georg Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: Hey all, The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. You will then work with a student, either locally or remotely. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. If you are a student, then you should apply as a student to get funded. Mentors get $500 and students get $4500 for working on something Pd related. .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Hallo again ! I added now quite some projects from last year to the WIKI page: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009 Please look through them and correct my bad english and/or add additional resources and ideas ! @Hans: I added you to some projects as mentor, I hope you don't mind ;) @IOhannes: same for you ;) - but you can of course join more projects (now I added you only to the gem multiwindow project, because here you are the only possible author) To all other mentors: please add you to the wiki and also add projects ! Thanks, LG Georg Georg Holzmann schrieb: Hallo! I started to put ideas together at the following WIKI page: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009 If you are interested joining one project as a mentor, please just add your name in the list of possible mentors ... Please also add your projects using the following template: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/ProjectTemplate (and look at the description of my already added projects) It should be as clear as possible for students how to start, where are the resources and etc. There are also still a lot of old projects from last year here: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas which should be copied (and polished) to the new WIKI page - so some help is really needed ! Thanks for any contribution, LG Georg Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: Hey all, The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. You will then work with a student, either locally or remotely. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. If you are a student, then you should apply as a student to get funded. Mentors get $500 and students get $4500 for working on something Pd related. .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2009!
OK, I started the WIKI page here: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009 I will add some projects in the evening, which can be used as templates for other mentors ... LG Georg Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: I think your idea sounds good, I think you should just start the page, and then we can fill it in as each of us finds the time. .hc On Feb 28, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo Hans ! Do you have or other have any comments on my last mail ? I don't want to start a new wiki page if there is no agreement about the procedure ... LG Georg Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Enrique Erne wrote: wow these project are really nice. i hope deeply PdLib would make it with or without soc. imo that is s missing in pd-extended. i'd love to help but i don't even know how to help to get the help-files in running in pd-ext. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/PdLib/ LibPd would be also a huge addition. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/LibPd/ only negative point i have is the name: PdLib and LibPd is kind of confusing. but as already stated, all projects are great and would be wonderful. If you want to starting on standard libs for Pd, I say just do it. Pick a topic and start making a library. For example, I really should finish 'tkwidgets', which is a library that aims to directly expose the standard Tk widgets for use in Pd. I did manage to finish 'apple' which is a library of Apple-specific functions like accelerometer, light level sensors, brightness controls, etc. The Thinkpad has lots of example code for all this stuff to, so it would be great to have a 'thinkpad' library. .hc kill your television Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2009!
Hallo Hans ! Do you have or other have any comments on my last mail ? I don't want to start a new wiki page if there is no agreement about the procedure ... LG Georg Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Enrique Erne wrote: wow these project are really nice. i hope deeply PdLib would make it with or without soc. imo that is s missing in pd-extended. i'd love to help but i don't even know how to help to get the help-files in running in pd-ext. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/PdLib/ LibPd would be also a huge addition. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/LibPd/ only negative point i have is the name: PdLib and LibPd is kind of confusing. but as already stated, all projects are great and would be wonderful. If you want to starting on standard libs for Pd, I say just do it. Pick a topic and start making a library. For example, I really should finish 'tkwidgets', which is a library that aims to directly expose the standard Tk widgets for use in Pd. I did manage to finish 'apple' which is a library of Apple-specific functions like accelerometer, light level sensors, brightness controls, etc. The Thinkpad has lots of example code for all this stuff to, so it would be great to have a 'thinkpad' library. .hc kill your television ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2009!
Hallo Hans, list ! Google is doing summer of code again, this time we have the knowledge and an app so that we can get chosen again. Here's the site: http://code.google.com/soc/ Here's our app from last year: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/ Nice - I quickly looked through the old applications, which were really many ... I think we shouldn't make that many applications this year (as google suggested to us) and try to describe the few ones much better. The first question to answer is: are all of the mentors from last year still up for being a mentor this year? The mentor gets $500 per student, perhaps being a mentor would be more enticing if the mentor got to keep the $500. Here's the list from last year: I would be up for a mentor this year, as I am now working somehow ;) What do you mean, how should we proceed ? Maybe we should make a new WIKI page and each mentor describes the projects he likes on the new page (and copies parts from last years projects) ! Then we could decide a few days before the deadline, which descriptions are complete enough for the proposal. LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended on Ubuntu 8.1 Intrepid
Hallo Fränk! uhh.- sorry. Well I can´t find pd-entended with the synaptics search function.- best, fraenk Yes, I also installed pd extended via ubuntu package management two days ago and it worked fine. Maybe you forgot to make an update ;) ? Try: apt-get update apt-get install pd-extended LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sndfiler - or other ogg audio wavetable object in pd-extended
Hallo! make -f Makefile.pd_main pd_linux with the pd sources of sourceforge svn ... I also compiled the threadlib from sourceforge svn (/externals/grh/.) and seems ok ... Fine ! But I got an error at puredata (version 041.4 extended 2009 01 21) /usr/lib/pd/extra/sndfiler.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd/extra/sndfiler.pd_linux: undefined symbol: fifo_init sndfiler ... couldn't create Hm - did you also load the threadlib external ? (because this is needed) So you have to _first_ load the threadlib, and the the sndfiler ! BTW: if you don't need the threaded soundfiler it is maybe better to just convert the ogg files to wav and then read it with the normal soundfiler object ! LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sndfiler - or other ogg audio wavetable object in pd-extended
Hallo! I tried with pd -lib threadlib then threadlib vers.0.1, library for threaded patching and externals 2005, by Georg Holzmann g...@mur.at mailto:g...@mur.at heavily based on pd_devel code by Tim Blechmann WARNING: this is very experimental and may crash your patches ! ok. but sndfiler still not working (same error /usr/lib/pd/extra/sndfiler.pd_ linux: /usr/lib/pd/extra/sndfiler.pd_linux: undefined symbol: fifo_init sndfiler ... couldn't create ) OK - so then there must be a problem during linking I guess ... I have to look into it. I like to use your external because ogg files save lots of disk space, and it's easier to distribute patches with the samples attached... Yes I understand - but OTOH it is much harder do distribute a patch which uses sndfiler, because everyone has to compile it ;) (which can be quite tricky - especially for non-pd experts) Why can't pd-extended compile sndfiler ? I think I tried to add sndfiler to the pd-extended build system (which should be quite straight forward) a year ago - but did not finish because it has a dependecy to libsndfile - then pd-extended would need to distribute this library as well ... But I agree that this is the way to go, then it should just work. LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Berlin Pure Data Meetings
Hallo! First thanks for the answers ! after seeing much more Berliners at the RjDj sprint this weekend and at least 3 people including myself being interested in reanimating the Stammtisch I think we can have an other try... Perhaps we could also find some more unknown pd-users at C-Base? Yes, just let's do it - I would suggest a meeting in january. And I could ask at c-base, if we could have their rooms. They organize many open-source related regular meetings there, so I think they would also support a pd-berlin meeting. LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rzero or rpole first?
Hallo Frank! In general this should not matter (although there can be numerical unstabilities with some structures - but I thing that's no problem in your case). See for example series and parallel transfer functions in INTRODUCTION TO DIGITAL FILTERS (which is BTW a very nice book): http://www.dsprelated.com/dspbooks/filters/Series_Parallel_Transfer_Functions.html LG Georg Frank Barknecht schrieb: Hallo, hm, I'm a bit confused how to place elementary filters: In the book, Miller writes that the r/czero should be placed before the poles and the screenshots also show this: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/latest/book-html/node160.html However the example patches (H11 ff.) and the butterworth abstractions that come with Pd have it the other way around and follow the alphabetic order with *z*ero last! Ciao ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Berlin Pure Data Meetings
Hallo Berliner! Since now many of the pd-graz people are living in Berlin (or at least Michi Pinter and me for now ;), it would be nice to meet some Berlin pd people (or similar). I heard that there was a pd stammtisch here, but I guess it is not active anymore ? So if anyone is interested - let me know ! (We also plan to make a workshop at some other time - if someone wants to contribute or attend she/he is of course very welcome!) OK, I am happy for any reply, LG Georg PS: As I am new here - has maybe someone tips which things are good to go to here in Berlin ? Maybe some locations/mailinglists/websites with nice events or communities ? - Thanks for any hints ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Hallo! But as I understood e.g. this [1] separating packages of Pd and externals/abstractions is something, Hans did rather not want to deal with (at least at that time), so someone else needs to do it. [1] http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2008-04/011410.html Yes, as I said (or at least that was what I wanted to say). I think the problem with the pd community is that everyone just says how he/she would like to have the distribution and is always complaining - but actually only Hans is doing the main work (with some very small contribution as also by myself). I personally think that the pd-extended project is one of the most important things in the pd-community, if not the most important and I cannot understand why people are not able to work with each other and not always against each other. Especially developers are only complaining ... It is not enough to always say I want the build system like this or I don't like the current philosophy - we heard this now many many times on the list and of course some of the criticism is also valid - there really need to be also contributions from other people to get this project working ... LG Georg PS: I was really fascinated how cooperation can work in other open source communities, but here (in PD world) I simply don't see this and I don't understand why. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] extended on asus eeePC?
Hallo! just got a shiny new asus eeePC i am fairly new to linux, and looking for the easiest most friendly way to install pd-entended (i dont need it to be the latest version, althou that'd be great). tips for a linux newbie? It is just the same as on every other computer. I use (k)ubuntu on the eee, so all dependencies are easy to install ... However, I don't know if it is that easy on the default Xandros OS, you might not have all latest libraries, but you could try it ! LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] install pd-ext from .deb?
Hallo! your package-manager should handle the dependencies/conflicts correctly, that is: ask you if you want to uninstall the puredata package when you try to install the pd-extended package. as H-C said, it doesn't seem to happen. I only get the error message, and no other options available. then it might be a bug in the package-manager, but not in the package. The standard package manager (apt-get) on debian and ubuntu does not ask you if you want to uninstall the package - you have to uninstall it manually. Only aptitude is asking these questions ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem DV Output via Firewire
Hallo! I was just looking at the list archives and noticed a thread on this that seemed to end around 2005. I am just wondering if there was any progress on DV Out (pix_dvout?) from gem... Unfortunately no ... (or at least I don't know it) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd and matlab
Hallo! i find it quite odd .. the idea of using matlab which is t00 sl0w! Well, if you need calculations with bigger matrices then matlab (or octave, numpy/scipy, ...) will be much faster ! LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ANN - Gesture Recognition Capabilities
Hallo! in the description of the algorithm they talk about some pending patents... I guess they use more than simple ann comparison to get this working in realtime on a game console. Yes, I also would not use a feedforward neural network (as implemented in ann) for this. You have to use a model which also incorporates time. For example a hidden markov model or echo state network (= special kind of recurrent neural network) should work. (The second is currently the topic of my thesis - so maybe I will make some similar examples in summer, when I have some time again ... ;) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ANN - Gesture Recognition Capabilities
Hallo! Hm. You can incorporate changes over time using a standard feedforward ANN by wrapping your time-ordered vectors over a given time period into a single input vector and increasing the number of inputs to the network accordingly. But of course this introduces latency and other problems (e.g. it could massively increase the number of training examples required). Pd has the ann_td external, which provides a 'time delay' neural network which I believe incorporates time using a method similar to that described above. Yes of course, one other possibility is to use time delayed neural networks ... For example a hidden markov model or echo state network (= special kind of recurrent neural network) should work. I'm intrigued! Presumably these approaches avoid the latency problem by maintaining the network's state? Are there other advantages -- easier to train? Hm ... I did not think about latency ... but if you do not process the data in blocks there should not be a significant latency (also for the time delay NN) ? However, the advantage of the echo state network is that training is linear and you cannot get in a suboptimal solution as with feedforward neural networks (where the error surface has multiple local minimas) - see for example http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Echo_state_network for a short introduction. And it is recurrent - so in general more powerful ... from the link above: On a number of benchmark tasks, ESNs have starkly outperformed all other methods of nonlinear dynamical modelling If you are interested, I implemented ESNs (with various extensions) in a C++ library with python bindings: http://aureservoir.sourceforge.net/, a PD external will hopefully follow in summer ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] installatation path of help-files
Hallo! you'll be able to load the library with [import], and use namespace prefixes. that's not how i imagine it :-) Pd can do most of this already without the need for [import]. ? - What do you mean ? declare ? LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD extended for Ubuntu gutsy : dependencies?
Hallo! It was a quick hack we did at LAC, but it turns out that there is a Debian tool for this, that's probably the better choice. I think the tool is dpkg-shlibsdeps, but I am just guessing. No I changed it already to use dpkg-shlibsdeps (but thanks for the link) - so I don't really know what the problem is ... I search for all .pd_linux files and pd itself in the destination dir (trunk/packages/linux_make/Makefile): PACKAGE_BINARIES := $(shell find $(DESTDIR) \( -name *.pd_linux -o -name pd \) ) and then calculate the dependencies: PACKAGE_DEPENDS := $(shell dpkg-shlibdeps -O $(PACKAGE_BINARIES) | cut -b0-15 --complement ) Do you have any ideas why Gem is not included here ? Is it maybe installed not in $(DESTDIR) on the autobuild farm ? LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD extended for Ubuntu gutsy : dependencies?
Hallo! I just proceeded to the install of Pd version 0.3-extended-20080402 on a friend's brand new ubuntu gutsy i386 install Thanks for your report - did you install an autobuild version ? Because I just changed the debian packages in the latest autobuild version which tries to detect the dependencies automatically ... so any testing is very welcome ;) ! LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD and new ASUS and Everex mini laptops: experiences?
Hallo! Official repository don't provide puredata. Old version (0.39) could be found in Etch repository. Yes an old version is also in the Xandros repositories ... However, I also compiled pd from source now. And it really runs quite nice - one of my performance patches with arduino interface uses about 20% (some synths, samples and effects) and also without dropouts when switching windows etc. However, I didn't test the latency so far ... So it's really nice for simple audio things, especially if you have some other interfaces and don't want to show your big computer ... ;) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD and new ASUS and Everex mini laptops: experiences?
Hallo! I will also get one next week (they are sold out here ATM) and will definitely make some pd experiments on it ... ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi, nice to hear that PD runs on Eeepc! Did you use apt-get to install it? Yes you can use the debian repositories ... lots of information is here: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GSoC Organization App 2008 wiki page
Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: I think they want to see more polish on the app. I had a brief conversation with the administrator of GSoC, Leslie Hawthorn: Hm, I don't know ... We had really many ideas on the page and described in many details (at least the most of them) - much more than last year. Also the other organizations I was looking through did have much less ideas without a detailed description ... However, of course it can be better for the next time ;) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GSoC Organization App 2008 wiki page
Hallo! marius schebella schrieb: that's really bad to hear, especially since iem was already getting money last year. do you think there was a problem with last years projects? Maybe there were too few student-applications last year ... or maybe supporting pd is useless for google. don't you think they sponsor projects that google can benefit from? maybe next year... Hm, I don't think so - CLAM and similar other projects are also in. LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vowel recognition
Hallo! I wonder if anyone did vowel recognition with Pd. AFAIK no. I added speech recognition for the GSoC projects some day ago: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/SpeechRecognitionForPD So you could try to use SPHINX or HTK. E.g. look at this tutorial: http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/sphinx/tutorial.html. LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Google SoC: call for mentors and project ideas
Hallo! Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: Shall we apply as Pure Data this time? I am ok to apply as IEM Yes, I think we should do it as Pure Data, as discussed in Cologne ... again, but it just seems that most projects apply as the project rather than as another institution. Does anyone want to be the GSoC admin on this? Could you do this ? It needs to be done before March 12. Therefore you will need a list of the mentors I think. So far are IOhannes, Andy Farnell, Chris McCormick and you - anyone else ? I added some more project ideas to http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas/ and also some old ones. LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Google SoC: call for mentors and project ideas
Hallo! In light of the recent discussion about Blender + Pd is there maybe some possibility of a combined cross application proposal? As far as I remember it does not need to be restricted to pd. The Pd-mentors will decide which projects are accepted (not google), so if they think that blender+pd would be a nice project this is of course possible ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vbap define_loudspeakers messages
Hallo! There are also ambisonic externals from IEM and Jasch, for better spatialization. I would not say better ;) - it depends ... Maybe a Spatialisation with Pure-Data page would be nice - is there something like that out there already? a web page, academic papers, performance documentation, patches?? Last year I did a workshop on this, you can find the files here: http://grh.mur.at/misc/PdSpatialization.tar.gz LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Google SoC: call for mentors and project ideas
Hallo! I'd like to apply for some Mentos. I like mixed fruit or grape. As for Pd, I can't think of something major enough to call for Google SoC, but I'll keep thinking. I think the projects should not be too big. This is maybe something we can learn from last year. It would be nice to have compact projects which would be e.g. also manageable by people new to the pd community ... [...] Dunno if that's worth a Summer of Code commission though. If it is, I hope at least one of the mentors will fill out the application as The Freshmaker. Do you want to apply as student or as mentor ? I don't know if a Freshmaker is suggestive, maybe try to formulate it in a more compact way with some definitive points which should be done. Thanks, LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-ext paths, libs and help
Hallo! let's say I want to use OSCroute... I put an object [import oscx]. but OSCroute ... couldn't create only oscx/OSCroute works, and then I can also use OSCroute. I can import OSCroute, but only after I imported oscx. Okay, which pd-extended version do you use ? I use the autobuild Pd version 0.40.3-extended-20080224 and I can do a [import oscx] and [OSCroute]. (of course you have to load the library libdir first, because thats the library loader - so yes, libdir should be loaded automatically) Alternatively I can do [declare -lib oscx] and then [OSCroute] which should work with any pd version which supports [declare]. almost all the help patches that rely on one of these libraries are broken. I changed the makefile at some time that all the helpfiles are also installed into the extra/library path. So everything worked basically. But I think these changes are not yet in the official released pd-extended ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Google SoC: call for mentors and project ideas
Hallo! We discussed at the LAC that we would like to apply again this year for google's summer of code project, which is about to start today (http://code.google.com/soc/2008/). I started a wiki at: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas/ where everyone can put in ideas and wishes. Of course you can also write your ideas to the mailinglist for discussion and I will add them afterwards to the wiki. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is no student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. So please put in your ideas and apply as mentor and student ! One more question: Who of the mentors would like to make the main communication with google ? Because someone has to fill out the application (the material from last year is also at http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas/ and http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/SummerOfCode ). I would suggest Hans or IOhannes or anyone else who wants to spend some time with it ;) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vbap on Pd-extended (osx)
Hallo! i imported both libraries (see log below) but still no luck define speakers and mtx_*~ are still m.i.a. ideas? because you probably imported the libs after the other objects. Try to load the libraries at pd startup (e.g. in your pd settings or with a startup flag). LG Georg define_loudspeakers 3 -45 0 45 0 0 45 180 45 ... couldn't create define_loudspeakers 2 -45 45 135 -135 ... couldn't create mtx 8 3 ... couldn't create mtx_*~ 8 3 20 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create libdir_loader: added iemmatrix to the canvas-local path [import] loaded library: iemmatrix vbap: already loaded [import] loaded library: vbap ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Summer of Code 2008
Hallo! No matter who is the host org for this, we should definitely do it again. The funding is based on how many people apply as students and as mentors, so we should all work together to get as many applications in as possible. Yes we should have more mentors. Last year were only two if I remember correctly, so we also got only 2 students ... Perhaps it would make more sense to apply as Pd. Ultimately, all that matters is that we get funding for people to do work, so however it happens is fine by me. I also think applying as Pure Data would be much nicer ... let's discuss this at the LAC ... Everyone who wants to be a mentor should say it. Maybe all the developers who are no students anymore ;) : Frank?, Ben?, Claude?, Chris?, Miller? (names just from the last mails in the list) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended autobuilds on pd gutsy (WAS: Re: pd-extended install gutsy ubuntu libquicktime0 libflac7)
Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: The files are in packages/linux_make. The problem is that there is just one package description file which needs to build the .debs for all of the different Debian-based distributions. In order to support multiple distros, we'll need a way to manage multiple 'debian/control' files, one for each distro with conflicting deps. One way would be to have 'packages/debian' and 'packages/ubuntu', but I am open to suggestions. Okay, maybe we should speak about this at the LAC. LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] load abbreviated objects
Hallo! First: do you use the autobuilds or the stable pd-extended ? what is the problem that (in pd-extended) abbreviated object classes like mtx_+ cannot be instantiated, I have to create mtx_add before. Because the hexloader was broken - I don't know if this is already fixed in the autobuilds ... I think this is a known problem, but is there a solution to fix this? also, some of the objects can't be created, but I am not sure why for example mtx_add is one of these. is there a nameclash so that iemmatrix is not loaded by default? I once included all the iemmatrix objects and also it's aliases. They should be in the nightly autobuild version, although I don't know if the hexloader works (at least it should work with mtx_add, mtx_div, ...). However, I don't think that they should be loaded by default, but that's an other discussion ... ;) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd-extended autobuilds on pd gutsy (WAS: Re: pd-extended install gutsy ubuntu libquicktime0 libflac7)
Hallo Hans + others! I still have to same error with the ubuntu gutsy autobuild (see below) which is quite annoying when installing it on other systems ... So I wanted to ask: where in the SVN repository are the files that build these gutsy packages ? Then I can fix the dependencies ... LG Georg Greg schrieb: Hey I think this was noted as a problem; namely the deb wants libs flac7 and quicktime0. Gutsy doesn't have them (it has lqt1 and lf8) and it annoys aptitude to use dpkg -i --ignore-dependency=$NOGOOD to fix apt from complaining I went into /var/lib/dkpg/status and found the pd-extended entry and changed the relevant depends: to the gutsy versions. More info here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-187293.html hope this helps, sorry if it's a repost ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] soundfiler alternative - realtime? (loading in background)
Ingo Scherzinger schrieb: Hi, does anybody know if there is an alternative method to soundfiler in order to load wave files into tables. Soundfiler is not realtime capable and I urgently need to load files in the background while playing audio and midi without interruption. Maybe an external? sndfiler: http://grh.mur.at/software/sndfiler.html LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] soundfiler alternative - realtime? (loading in background)
Hallo! is that correct, that it only happens if some table needs to be resized? No it happens also if you only load a soundfile ... can drop-outs completely be avoided by using [sndfiler] without any table resizing? No not completely - however, I did not get dropouts in my use-cases ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sound for blender apricot opensource game
Hallo! it's sad, but especially for mastering tasks i still have to stick with proprietary tools on a proprietary operating system, since working with foss tools is still way far from being as efficient as with the tools that are usually used in studios. Did you try Ardour+Jamin ? I did some recording projects with it in summer and it just worked quite well ... it works similar like a protools setup. LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] FOSS audio tools
Hallo! - jamin is cool and powerful software too, but it follows the wrong strategy: you can only use it in real-time, since it is a jack-plugin. having to render in realtime is a pain and dangerous in many situations Yeah that's true - would be nice to do that offline ... But this is also how it works in studios, you have your mastering-hardware and bounce it in rt (I am not such a studio expert, but at least in the studios I was it was done like this). However, this should be no excuse ... (all drop-outs are in the resulting file). OTOH, LADSPA plugins don't support customized guis, AFAIK, therefor there is no option to do something like jamin as a LADSPA plugin. IMHO, most LADSPA plugins might be good scientific applications, but definitely not for everyday studio work (no visual feedback, strange scales of parameters). Yes, that's the second problem. It took me quite some time to find some good sounding plugins (and some I had to fix) - but they exist. Better visual feedback would be great too - maybe the upcoming LV2 can solve this ... Okay, that's maybe a little bit OT now ;) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Linux Audio Conference 2008: Registration now open
Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: Miller is giving a keynote, so it seems it could be the Pd year at LAC. I'll be presenting the NY Times project that I recently worked on. Who else will be there? basically all the pd-people from graz ! LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] paranoid pd
marius schebella schrieb: let me ask the other way? why has pd to behave different than every other program on my computer? Yes, I also don't understand this ... Although there might be a workaround, newbies (and even me as not so new newbie) don't know this and are only irritated. LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdradio
Hallo Martin! Second: Has pdradio.iem.at been disbanded? I recently read about it and I'm interested in hearing what it has to offer but I haven't been able to access it for the past few days Yes, the server died ... :( So pdradio is history. LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Gem: alpha blending without loss of brightness
Hallo! I have again a basic alpha blending problem, where I don't find a solution: For example I have two images (A + B), which are overlapping at a small part (C): | image A | | | | |-- | | C | | ---| | | | | image B| --- Now I want that image A and image B looks normal (unchanged) and in the overlapping part the two images are added so that one sees both - and all this with openGL commands (not pix_add or similar, because I have lots of such regions). OK, I gave all images an alpha value of 0.5, but then the whole image losses brightness. So my question: is there a way to get this alpha blending and without a loss of brightness in the images ? or can I renormalize this effect somehow (re-increase the brightness) ? (see attached patch where I illustruted this problem with 2 colored rectangles) Thanks for any hint, LG Georg #N canvas 545 0 684 281 10; #X obj 27 140 gemwin; #X msg 44 71 create \, 1; #X msg 47 102 destroy; #X obj 161 205 rectangle 2 1; #X obj 162 71 gemhead; #X obj 163 107 colorRGB 1 0 0 0.5; #X floatatom 267 61 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 466 204 rectangle 2 1; #X obj 467 74 gemhead; #X floatatom 574 70 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 163 178 alpha; #X obj 467 176 alpha; #X obj 161 141 translateXYZ -1 0 0; #X obj 469 136 translateXYZ 1 0.2 0; #X obj 469 104 colorRGB 0 1 0 0.5; #X text 260 26 when you change these alpha values here \, also the colors of the non-overlapping region change:; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 12 0; #X connect 6 0 5 4; #X connect 8 0 14 0; #X connect 9 0 14 4; #X connect 10 0 3 0; #X connect 11 0 7 0; #X connect 12 0 10 0; #X connect 13 0 11 0; #X connect 14 0 13 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] GEM: texturing parts of multiple movies
Hallo! I have the following (basic) GEM problem (and some ascii-art ;) : I have 2 movies running with pix_film which are rendered on rectangles with the same size over the whole screen and I want to see only a part of each movie (see illustration): from movie A: --- | | | | | | | |---| | | | partA | | | | | | | |---| | --- from movie B: --- ||| | || partB | | ||| | ||| | | | | | | | --- together: --- ||| | || partB | | ||(movieB)| | | |---| || | | | partA | | | |(movieA| | | |---| | --- So I tried to lay black rectangles over the movies and let free partA,partB so that one can only see these parts. But this does not work for multiple movies, because then I only see the movie with the highest gemhead priority (and also with alpha blending it was not possible) ... So my question: is this possible without additional pix_* commands ? (e.g. texturing only a part of the movie onto a rectangle ... ?) If yes has someone an idea how ? Thanks for any hint, LG Georg PS: if this is too confusing I can send an example patch ;) ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM: texturing parts of multiple movies
Hallo! Many thanks - it works ! LG Georg I replied too quickly, a better (more general solution which could involve more movies and no masking) would be: set the gemwin 'orthagonal' layer the movies so A is furthest away, then B, C etc in front of this place a black rectangle then transparent rectangles part A, B C etc render order is: movie A then part A then movie B then part B then movie C then part C etc finally render the black rectangle this way you can easily move the part around ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM: texturing parts of multiple movies
Hallo! Thanks Claude and IOhannes for the examples ! to clarify: what is wrong with using 2 small rectangles where the selected section is textured to? if i understand your original email correctly, you are trying to avoid this. No, it is what I want I simply did not know that this is possible with [pix_coordinate]. However, is there somewhere (opengl-) documentation what exactly the parameters of [pix_coordinate] are ? (which number correspondes to which effect?) Or for which word I should to search to find this in the opengl docu ... Thanks, LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] playlist for pc
Hallo! im a pc user trying to use the playlist object, but it doesn't seem to want to be created.. it works on my mates mac, but no go on the pc.. is it just a mac external ?? any ideas would be super! pc or not - what is your OS ;) ? On linux that's no problem - don't know for windows ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd on Athlon64
Hallo! pitfal: not using Pd-0.41 advice: use pd-0.41 What is the difference between Pd-0.41 and pd-0.41 ;) ? LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Recording question
tania habib schrieb: Well now I am facing a problem, I guess I was too excited to really check whether this option worked properly or not! The problem is that I have a patch in Pd, where I am using adc~, writesf~ to write the streaming data into wave files. When I initialize Pd, it recognizes the aggregate device, I click on it and select the no. of channels to the total no. of inputs I have with the aggregate device, say 8. When I start the recording and finish it. Open the wav files in audacity, only two channels seems to be active the rest have nothing in them! How did you use writesf ? Did you specify the number of channels ? If not look at the help patch of writesf ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] re . xml-rpc client
Hallo! Thanks again Georg, do you have a sense as to what it would take to re-write the external with the calls embedded in the external? Is this possible? It would be nice if one didn't have to use an accompanying script in Python , Perl etc to make those calls. Once again: you don't have to rewrite the external and you don't have to use python! Just this example used python - you can of course make this xmlrpc calls also in perl or whatever ! LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] xml-rpc client
Hallo! Thanks I looked at that but it wasn't clear to me how I could connect to an external server such as http://xmlrpc-c.sourceforge.net/api.sample.php with this. Do I need to run a python script along with the patch? Is there a help file some where? Well, there is an help pach: look in /externals/iem/iemxmlrpc (I think not a help patch, but an example patch). And you should be able to use that with any other language than python ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] re . xml-rpc client
Hallo! Thanks Georg . I saw this patch but it doesn't really have any explanation associated with it that I can see. Also one would have to run another script in Python or something to make the xml-rpc calls if I understand it correctly. No, this is just an example in python... Is that correct? I was wondering if there was an external with the xml-rpc library included to avoid having to use anything along with PD. In the ideal case one would use only PD as the client and be able to contact a remote xml-rpc server directly. Yes, I think thats the idea - however, you have to replace the calls from the python example with the equivalent calls from your desired language - I'm sorry, I only used it in python so far, so I can't give an example ... So maybe the best is to simply try to reprogram this python example in your language (if you have problems just post them) - then this could be also added as an example ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] fft beginner question
marius schebella schrieb: Mathieu Bouchard wrote: this is actually cos^2+sin^2=1 in this context, these are not unity vextors, if you square the cosine and sine part you don't get one, but a square of the amplitudes, so it is more cos^2+sin^2=amplitude^2 hm, I don't really understand what you try to say here, but cos(x)^2 + sin(x)^2 is 1 ! LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] fft beginner question
Hallo! The main reason we use complex numbers in electronic music is because they magically automate trigonometric calculations. We frequently have to add angles together in order to talk about the changing phase of an audio signal as time progresses (or as it is shifted in time, as in this chapter). It turns out that, if you multiply two complex numbers, the argument of the product is the sum of the arguments of the two factors. so, is that where 'fast' fourier transform comes from then? No - the term fast fourier transform comes from the special algorithm how the DFT (discrete fourier transform) is calculated (see e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fft) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd and gpgpu
Hallo! Max MSP/Jitter has bridge objects that convert from audio rate to matrices and back, which would be needed in PD land to readback from the GPU, and convert to an audio rate signal. Thats how this is done. Otherwise i have no idea how you would implement souch a patch. I think the easiest way to do it is simply in the C code of the audio externals (there exist already nice libraries for general computing on the GPU - as pointed to in the last link). However, of course it would be also interesting to do that at the patching level, but I don't know if that is possible ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd and gpgpu
Hallo! it is true that the gpu is unused most of the time and could be used to do fast calculations, but the main output for graphicscards is the screen and reading back into ram can be slow. (of course slow is a relative term). I also see a problem in the different formats for audio and images. most graphics cards are optimized for vec4 processings (4 parallel color channels). and audio... Well, there are already quite some papers/software for audio processing on the gpu (see e.g. http://www.gpgpu.org/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi/Audio%20and%20Signal%20Processing/index.html). But AFAIK nobody did this with pd up to now ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pyext~
Hallo Thomas ! Signal support for py/pyext is really experimental and i don't recommend it at all, since it's also inefficient cpu-wise. I am just curious: what is so slow ? (I did not look into the source ...) I use also python for offline computation (not with pd yet) and it is quite fast - so is the interface to pd the problem ? LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] xml-rpc
Hallo! after I finished my script I found out that there is already an object that does xml-rpc (iemxmlrpc). iem used it for the iArs project, but I did not find the object? It is in pd-cvs/externals/iem/iemxmlrpc/ I am planning to use it as a protocol to talk to a database server. (sounds boring, no?) No! I was pondering how to do some mySQL inserts and queries from Pd just the other day. Wanna show us some tricks? What do you wanna do (marius) ? Directly query the mySQL database ? Then you could just do it in pyext (I posted a mySQL pyext-external for pd some time ago to the list). If you need communication to other languages or whatever, xmlrpc is nice - I used it quite a lot for installations etc. LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates
Hallo! $inlets = Inlets; $outlets = Outles; I use in german also the terms Eingang and Ausgang - don't know what the others think ... $arguments = Argumente; $messages = Messages; # not sure about this one. # german would be 'Nachrichten', but # noone seems to use it. Hm ... I also don't use Nachrichten, but it does not sound that bad ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Transcribe~ Release
Hallo Arshia ! I would like to announce the release of Transcribe~, a real-time polyphonic audio to Midi transcriber for Pd and MaxMSP. Thanks - this sounds quite interesting ! However, unfortunately I can not try it (am on linux), you only have the binaries on the page ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] inconsistencies with lib names (was: representning classes
Hallo! The first one found would be the right one. It's not pd's problem if there exist more than one file with the same name. Surely that's up to the creators of the files to sort out. Well, this is now discussed since years. The whole namespace+pd-extended thing would not be obsolete if we simply would load everything in the extra directory ... Also every external in there would be loaded into the memory when you start pd. LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] inconsistencies with lib names (was: representning classes and selectors in the wiki)
Hallo! as far as i have understood it, the standard library wants to duplicate externals: e.g. an object that allows interfacing with the serial port would be a copy of iem/comport that is named hardware/comport (or whatever). thus it would not rely on 3rd party externals, but on stdlib internal libraries. (with duplicate code and everything that follows from it) As far as I undestood it the code of e.g. comport would go in this standard lib (e.g. to hardware/comport) but should not duplicate the code - instead the iem/comport code should be obsolete and now maintained in hardware/comport. But as the others convinced me at the pd conv I don't think that this will happen soon (and soon in pd time means maybe 8-10 years ... ;) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] puredata objects need help
Hallo Marius! Only some small questions: for what are the TAGS,TAGS,TAGS ? (in your csv file no object uses them) OBJECTNAME,ABBREVIATION,DESCRIPTION,LIBRARY,CATEGORY,TAGS,TAGS,TAGS,HELP PATCH And to the categories: do you want to list objects per category afterwards, which would meen that we should choose between a fixed set of categories ? Maybe we could just post more objects here in the list and then you could add the - although this migth not be optimal ... ;) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] please help me read mp3 files on a win2k system!!
Thomas O Fredericks schrieb: I was able to play mp3s in Windows with through a vst and the vst~ external. It worked great. The vst mp3 player: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/604.html (almost everything can be controlled with vst~) It is also possible to play mp3 files with the mpe player from iemlib (iem_mp3), which should work under windows too. The object is called [mp3play~]. LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] please help me read mp3 files on a win2k system!!
IOhannes m zmoelnig schrieb: Georg Holzmann wrote: It is also possible to play mp3 files with the mpe player from iemlib (iem_mp3), which should work under windows too. The object is called [mp3play~]. have your read this thread? I thought yes, but maybe its a problem of my mail client. At least I don't see any reference to mp3play ... However, sorry for the noise if I repeated something ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iemmatrix for macosx
Hallo! but even in the old autobuilds there is no iemmatrix. Is it called matrix instead of iemmatrix? or is it stripped into single objects (mtx_and...). i don't know. iemmatrix can be build as single object collection, so it is pd-extended ready. i will not add it, but i thought georg has already done so (?) Yes I have added iemmatrix and they should be in the autobuilds (also for OS-X, I just checked the makefile). The library is called iemmatrix, so an [import iemmatrix] should work. But these changes are only in the latest pd-extended which is not released yet ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reminder for tuesday
marius schebella schrieb: ähem... where is the chat? can I use iChat? marius. IRC (freenode), dataflow channel. Don't know if iChat is an IRC client ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reminder for tuesday
marius schebella schrieb: hi, could someone repeat when and where the chat session for pd documentation will be on tuesday? I think 18:00 UTC ? LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] new external: closemsg
Hallo Thomas! Is there any problem in just using [closebang] ? (as e.g. in the patch here http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00174.html, or I don't know if someone else already made such an external) As you describe the behaviour of your object IMHO it sounds not very consistent and would possibly introduce bugs in patches ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] new external: closemsg
Hallo! Thomas O Fredericks schrieb: I have been waiting (count in years) for the long promised closebang. As for many PD promises, I am tired of waiting... I got work to do! I understand that - so maybe you can simply make an external out of the [colsebang] patch ? (I did not look into the patch - so I don't know ...) As you describe the behaviour of your object IMHO it sounds not very consistent and would possibly introduce bugs in patches ... If used properly (as for inter-patch and not inner-patch stuff) it should not. No using [t a a ] to connect multiple multiple inlets to one outlet will possibly introduce bugs also. I don't understand this. The only problem here is communication, because the behaviour would be a part of closebang ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem and ieee1394 firewire cam on linux debian
Tim Boykett schrieb: Apologies for a slight stuff up, The suggestion I made here, I now notice deep in the source, has been made. with the message |device /dev/dv1394/0( to pix_video I could have made this work all those days ago. It should be documented in the help patch though ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem and ieee1394 firewire cam on linux debian
Tim Boykett schrieb: Apologies for a slight stuff up, The suggestion I made here, I now notice deep in the source, has been made. with the message |device /dev/dv1394/0( to pix_video I could have made this work all those days ago. I should be documented in the help patch though ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem and ieee1394 firewire cam on linux debian
Hallo! But I am having no luck with pix_video or pdp_v4l. The main problem seems to be that (apparently) recently the naming conventions in debian and possibly linux in general were changed. So there is no more /dev/video0 for the v4l mode, and for pix_video trying to work directly with ieee1394, I get complaints that /dev/ieee1394/dv/ host/PAL/in Is a directory. Yes we had this discussion quite some time ago: I think you can open the device with sending the message [driver /dev/ieee1394/dv/host/PAL/in( (fill in your device) to [pix_video]. If not let me know, then the fix was not added ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] image object and spaces in filenames
Hallo Marius! I would like to know if it is better to send such problems only as a bug report from the source forge site? Don't think that its a bug, more a limitation of pd. You can: - rename all spaces in your filenames with _ (which is quite easy with a shell script) - make your path-symbol e.g. in python-pyext (where you can make strings with spaces) and then send it to the image object LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] image object and spaces in filenames
Hallo! I was not talking about [pix_image], but [image] (originally in ggee). ok, sorry - I thought you speak about [pix_image] ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] image object and spaces in filenames
Mathieu Bouchard schrieb: On_Thu,_9_Aug_2007,_Roman_Haefeli_wrote:_this_is,_what_i_was_trying_to_say:_you_cannot_expect_symbols_with_spaces_to_work_in_pd_(or_can_i?_correct_me,_if_i_am_wrong)_using_spaces_is_always_a_hack._that_is_why_expressed_uncertainty_about_this_behaviour_being_a_bug. Yes,_using_spaces_is_always_a_hack_because_one_can_write_everything_one_needs_to_write_using_only_underscores_just_like_this.|_Mathieu_Bouchard_-_tél:+1.514.383.3801,_Montréal_QC_Canada your_comments_are_always_the_best_ones_..._;) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] RIP James E. Tittle II
Hallo! Sad to hear this. Guestbook doesn't like my browser so.. Happy hacking James, wherever you have gone. some more photo-links from mathieu: some notes in the piksel04 log: http://www.piksel.no/piksel04/photoblog5.html and a picture of James in his red striped shirt: http://www.piksel.no/piksel04/landmark_tue_02/big/12.jpg clearer photos, a few weeks older, in Graz: http://artengine.ca/matju/guckes/2004-09-29/dscn8146.jpg trying t-shirt http://artengine.ca/matju/guckes/2004-09-29/dscn8245.jpg with Martin Pichlmair, Cyrille Henry and uh... http://artengine.ca/matju/guckes/2004-09-30/dscn8322.jpg with Hans-Christoph Steiner, Lluis Gomez i Bigorda, Yves Degoyon, Tom Schouten, Frank Barknecht, Johannes Zmölnig. http://artengine.ca/matju/guckes/2004-10-01/dscn8486.jpg with Thomas Musil http://artengine.ca/matju/guckes/2004-10-04/dscn8905.jpg with Alexandre Castonguay and I http://artengine.ca/matju/guckes/2004-10-04/dscn8930.jpg http://artengine.ca/matju/guckes/2004-10-04/dscn8931.jpg http://artengine.ca/matju/guckes/2004-10-04/dscn8947.jpg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cross-correlation in pd ?
Hallo! The problem is that two of the objects I have in the patch that Andy sent me 1- tab_mul 2- tab_cross_corr these should be in the iem_tab external (included in latest pd extended) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] DSP abstractions [was: netpd ...]
Hallo! no: loading the library or the libdir is not necessary in pd-extended, because [filter~] is directly in the extra folder. It is? Pd-extended continues to surprise/confuse me sometimes ... How is it decided what is directly in extra and what not? No, its not in extra - at least not in the latest autobuild versions ... Everything (binaries and abs) are in the extra/iemlib folder. LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
