Re: [PD] MIDI and JACK autoconnection is a PITA...
Jörn, this is a quick shoot from the hips, perhaps it can help: * Jörn Nettingsmeier netti...@stackingdwarves.net [2012-10-29 20:38]: hi *! am i the only one who thinks that non-configurable autoconnection to jack and alsa-midi ports is a) wrong and b) a major pain in the ass? IOhannes once wrote an external called (perhaps) [aconnect] or similar, which I think lets you do and choose alsa (midi) connections from within Pd. is there a way to prevent pd from doing this? particularly in the alsa midi case, it's a really blatant misfeature, because in the presence of a software midi thru port, it will immediately create a parameter loop which will make any connected midi controller go wild and burn its motors. If this is the case for the BCF2000 try using its U-3 or S-3 mode, where it will not echo the received midi data to its outputs. best, Jo my preferred behaviour would be no autoconnect at all. second best option is configurable auto-connect ports. i wonder what the rationale behind the current behaviour is? i mean, pd is all about drawing wires, so surely a pd user can be expected to be able to connect his/her audio and midi ports correctly? best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Stream phone call to pd?
* Charles Henry czhe...@gmail.com [2012-10-29 21:12]: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Simon Iten itensi...@gmail.com wrote: I think the obvious way to do this is to hack a Bluetooth headset. You could attach the headset with cables to an existing audiointerface... The user just connects to a regular headset. That's slightly less obvious than plugging in a stereo output cable from phone to sound card. There are also bluetooth audio devices (headset omitted) that have stereo outputs (here's one example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875981014nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwordscm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA ) A software only solution is more interesting though--good luck, I have no clue how you might do it, but I'll be reading to know if/how you do. Has anyone already suggested a SIP software phone that can talk to jack (perhaps via one of the alsa bridges)? best, Jo Chuck On Oct 29, 2012 12:56 PM, katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sebastian, Couple of years ago I tried to use a bluetooth stereo device for wireless monitoring in Pd. Nice thing about OSX is you can create an 'Aggregated Device' in 'Audio MIDI Setup' to include the bluetooth stereo to the regular sound card and use the extra channels in Pd. However, I soon found that bluetooth stereo had over half a second latency, so it was not useful for my purpose of monitoring. Besides that, bluetooth audio pairing was really a pain in OSX (back then at least). Another thing, when connecting a phone as bluetooth device to MacBook, I see the following services: Dial-up Networking, Human interface device, OBEX File Transfer, OBEX Object Push. None of these makes the phone available as an extra audio interface. No way to capture it's audio in Pd, like it can be done with bluetooth headsets. With WIFI-enabled cell phones there may be better possibilities, using Skype or similar, and route audio to Pd with Jack or Soundflower. Katja On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Sebastian Valenzuela svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I know this is a longshot, and most likely not the best place to ask this sort of question, but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I'm working on an art installation which requires the interception of phone conversations to be sent to my macbook and manipulated in Pd. Willing participants would connect their phones (via bluetooth?) to my computer and all audio would be streamed to my laptop in real time and routed into Pd. I realize one could just connect their phones to their laptops via an 8th inch TRS cable and an audio interface... but the idea is to make this connection wirelessly. Any ideas? Anything would be helpful. Thank you for your time, Sebastian -- Sebastian Ignacio Valenzuela Rojas Composer - Performer svalenzuelamusic.wix.com/home youtube.com/svalenzuelamusic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] analyzer~
Dear list, what would be the best way of getting an object with similar feature extraction capabilities as [analyzer~] for Max by Tristan Jehan http://web.media.mit.edu/~tristan/maxmsp.html Thank you / best, Jo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] analyzer~
* Max abonneme...@revolwear.com [2012-09-13 15:33]: William Brents timbreID http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html#timbreID wow, thanks! That was a quick one! best, Jo Am 13.09.2012 um 06:27 schrieb Johanna Nowak: Dear list, what would be the best way of getting an object with similar feature extraction capabilities as [analyzer~] for Max by Tristan Jehan http://web.media.mit.edu/~tristan/maxmsp.html Thank you / best, Jo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] spherical harmonics, laguerre, legendre polynomials and such
* Alejandro D. Somoza cacosom...@gmail.com [2012-08-30 14:58]: Did you ever guys tried to implement those or related on Pure Data? Is there any kind of patch out there with a whole bunch of mathematical common expressions? There is [mtx_spherical_harmonics] in the iemmatrix library. best, Jo I'm not entirely familiar with [expr] but I will give it a try. Is it gonna be a nightmare or should I just dump values coded with Mathematica or Matlab from a txt file? My intention is to drive sound events with hydrogen wave functions. Any experience on that¿ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] beamforming, mic array and audio source localization
Hi, there is some research using a 120 channel microphone array here: http://plessas.mur.at/rnd/rnd.html Page 55 of this thesis shows a Pd patch using spherical harmonics. http://plessas.mur.at/rnd/da/Thesis_Plessas.pdf This link to a video demo of 1st order beamforming using a nice GEM gui is also available: http://plessas.mur.at/rnd/demo/demo.html It seems that IEM does a lot of work on the topic, and I am sure they use Pd there! :-) see for example http://iaem.at/Members/zotter best, Jo * Charles Henry czhe...@gmail.com [2012-08-21 05:40]: I have not worked on it, but I think it's really interesting. Studying microphone arrays for source localization is on my list... once I get through everything else I started and didn't finish yet. I was really wondering about microphone arrays arranged in a circle, semi-circle, or around the perimeter of a room to pick up sounds selectively by location. I think that could be used to good effect for performance/recording. What are you up to now? Chuck On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:27 AM, Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net wrote: Hello, did anyone ever worked on beamforming using microphone array for audio source localisation and noise reduction? thx Cyrille ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readsf~ problem with 28-channel 256hz file
* kristof lauwers p...@kristoflauwers.domainepublic.net [2012-08-07 16:42]: At 14:07 2012-08-07, i go bananas wrote: If you only want to playback the data, then the easiest way might be just to change pd's sample rate to 256hz. If that doesn't work, maybe have a look at readsf~ help to see how to manually set playback parameters well, i want to use the EEG data as control data for an audio signal, so lowering the samplerate is no option.. the help from readsf~ doesn't say anything about changing the samplerate.. (but shouldn't it just read the right samplerate from the file? it's a normal .wav file..) At 15:17 2012-08-07, Johanna Nowak wrote: have a look at the help-file for the block~ object, which can do up/downsampling in a subpatch. i tried running it from a subpatch with a lower samplerate, but that didn't change anything.. If you have enough ram, you could also load all soundfile data into 28 tables, and read from those using tabread4~ or even a message-based tabread followed by a line~. i will give that a try. thanks for the suggestion! Have you tried opening the 256Hz wav file(s) in another application, such as sox[1], and resampling it there, resulting in a 44.1kHz file? just an idea best, Jo [1] http://sox.sourceforge.net/sox.html greetings, Kristof On Tuesday, August 7, 2012, kristof lauwers wrote: Hi, I'm trying to play back a rather uncommon file with readsf~. It's 3 hours of EEG data, on 28 channels, with a samplerate of only 256 hz. At first sight, readsf~ deals well with the 28 channels, but it seems to play it back way too fast.. Is there a way to make rit play back the file at the right speed? I'm using Pd version 0.40.3-extended on windows xp.. thanks! Kristof http://soundcloud.com/kristof-lauwershttp://soundcloud.com/kristof-lauwers http://kristoflauwers.domainepublic.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Detuning reverb ?
* Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com [2012-07-08 19:06]: Dear List, I've been trying to recreate the effect that can be heard on Pavement's The Hexx (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N5tx68-d2I). It sounds like a constantly downward detuning reverb, I have no idea if this is an existing guitar effect or if it was created in studio by Nigel Godrich. My last It is a short delay with a pitch shifter in its feedback loop. The detuning is a few cents only. my few cents only :- Jo attempt resulted in this ( http://guitarextended.wordpress.com/2012/07/08/detuning-delay/), which doesn't really sound like the original at all... I think I need delay lines driven by a phasor with a squared output, so that the speed at which the length of the delays increases is not constant. I also think I need to envelop the delay lines somehow, and switch between them so that the maximum length is never reached. But right now I short of ideas. From what i've found on the web, this should be doable with a granular delay, but I never used any granular stuff. Any suggestion is welcome... Cheers! Pierre. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Behringer bcf 2000
* Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com [2012-06-24 06:55]: On 24/06/12 11:37, Nick Arner wrote: Hello, Has anyone used the Behringer bcf 2000http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BCF2000with PD? Considering buying for use with Ableton, wondering if it is easy to implament with patches in PD. works well with Pd ... just use the standard midi setting in the bcf, you can then set and store many different presets in the bcf to use in Pd ... the motor drives work fine, the 14 bit resolution options are useful, so are the different encoder options, the menu has anyone used 14bit (hi-Resoltion) controllers in Pd, and if yes, how? thanks, Jo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cheapest production-scale pd-anywhere platform?
* Tedb0t li...@liminastudio.com [2012-05-16 02:42]: I see that the BeagleBone has had PD running on it, which is awesome, but ideally I'd find something cheaper/simpler still (I know this may be a pipe dream!) Interesting! I had a discussion about this recently with a friend! From where did you get this information? Jo —t3db0t On May 15, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Tedb0t wrote: Hi all, I'm researching a possible project that would embed a pd patch into a product. It would basically be a couple of knobs and a 16-bit audio output. Anyone have any idea what's the cheapest way to do this that's production-scale? i.e. for hundreds of units, not hacked ipods, etc.. I'm looking for something on the order of $25, and ironically, Raspberry π is way, WAY overkill. Thanks in advance for any clues :) —t3db0t ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] origins of voice.wav?
Hi Miller, thanks! What a nice insight! best, Jo * Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu [2012-05-09 22:57]: Hi all - I recorded this from KC95AM in San Diego about 15 years ago... we have another 45 minutes of soft and relaxing favorites [something I edited out here and can't remember] from KC95 AM I always admired how the DJ's wonderful voice was in conflict with the obviously banal nature of the music he was about to put on for the next 45 minutes. cheers Miller On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 04:53:28PM +0200, Björn Eriksson wrote: I´ve been asking myself this question many times... Pd without it would not be the same. I guess Miller Puckette should have some clues! ... and btw - are the voice.wav in Max/MSP aswell? /Björn Eriksson On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Tedb0t li...@liminastudio.com wrote: Seriously!! Hahahaha. Every time I use it in a class we all laugh with the irony. Maybe I should record a DISCONTINUOUS, LOUD AND OBNOXIOUS counter-sample. —t3db0t On May 9, 2012, at 9:18 AM, batinste wrote: I personnally take it as a joke, especially when it's looped and playing over and over and over : it's NOT soft and relaxing. Le 09/05/2012 13:38, Johanna Nowak a écrit : Dear List, perhaps this has been asked before, but what is the story behind continuous soft and relaxing (voice.wav)? best, Jo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] origins of voice.wav?
Dear List, perhaps this has been asked before, but what is the story behind continuous soft and relaxing (voice.wav)? best, Jo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] iemlib2 undefined symbol: iem_symtoalist_setup
Dear friends, Pd can't load iemlib2, compiled from latest svn, on Debian 64bit, saying ./iemlib2.pd_linux: ./iemlib2.pd_linux: undefined symbol: iem_symtoalist_setup what can I do here? thanx Jo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
