Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-22 Thread Pedro Oliveira
I second the suggestion. I'd also add this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Living-Electronic-Music-Simon-Emmerson/dp/0754655482/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308773106&sr=8-1

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Pagano, Patrick
wrote:

> May I suggest.
> http://www.amazon.com/Liveness-Performance-Mediatized-Philip-Auslander/dp/0
> 415196906
>
>
>
>
> pp
>
> On 6/22/11 11:08 AM, "Mathieu Bouchard"  wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, Onyx Ashanti wrote:
> >
> >> The thing is, nobody asks a violin player what he's playing (as
> >>somebody
> >> mentioned a few messages ago, sorry for the lack of proper quoting
> >> here), I believe, because these traditional instruments are already
> >> within our culture,
> >
> >It's not just that, it's that the number of parameters is limited. With
> >computer music there is no way we can learn to understand what's going on
> >in the manner that we did with traditional instruments, simply because it
> >doesn't take many variables at a same time to become confused, and with
> >computer music there are always more variables that can be added to
> >confuse the audience, and those variables can be added and removed at any
> >time.
> >
> >Every show is a potential opportunity to confuse the experts about what's
> >going on, more than it ever was.
> >
> >> but with electronic music, we're all a bunch of jilted lovers because
> >> were are all so used to hearing amazing music that was created in a
> >>very
> >> unexciting manner.  what this project is, currently, is "ok" sounding
> >> music, done in an exciting manner (to me).  thats why i looked so calm
> >> on the TED video even though my effects wouldnt latch (assigned to the
> >> extremes of the accelerometer range), because i had to concentrate of
> >> multiple variables at once and no longer have the distraction of
> >> "ease"...every performance is a strain and it is the best feeling EVER!
> >
> >The audience has no idea what you wanted it to sound like, so they have
> >no
> >way to measure your satisfaction other than looking at how you seem to
> >feel like.
> >
> >> when doing a DJ set or an ableton set, it is hard to suck because its
> >> all pre-recorded...you can even put on a song and go to the toilet.
> >
> >In the early days of the Pd Montréal users group (or actually, before),
> >there was that joke that the performer could very well be checking his
> >email while his music plays on its own. We were talking about Pd, because
> >one can also use Pd in this manner. We were talking about the lack of
> >proof of the « liveness » of a performance.
> >
> >> I love what girl talk does. he covers his laptop in saran wrap to keep
> >> drinks from killing it, and he just has everyone around him for the
> >> duration of his set.  THAT is the future.
> >
> >Doesn't that sound like the TopLap manifesto ?
> >
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Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-21 Thread Pedro Oliveira
I think it is super nice that Onyx joined the list and explained himself his
device.

Still in the subject of "performance authenticity " and "validation of
performance"... and also about audience/performer...

Onyx, do you think that perhaps all these questions that were raised about
what exactly you were doing would encourage you to perhaps make your
performative "movements" and means more evident? Or do you think this is not
important for your goals?

The thing is, nobody asks a violin player what he's playing (as somebody
mentioned a few messages ago, sorry for the lack of proper quoting here), I
believe, because these traditional instruments are already within our
culture, so one knows, roughly speaking, how a violin should be played and
how it might sound like. However, with gestural controllers/instruments of
course it is a different matter...

When Onyx mentions playing at audience level, inside the club, I remembered
of Dan Deacon and Girl Talk's performances which also often apply this idea,
and it is interesting to observe how the audience is also curious to see
what they're doing, so I guess it is a common behavior...


On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Charles Henry  wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Charles Henry  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>>
>>>> --- On Sun, 6/19/11, Mathieu Bouchard  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What's a « technological parody » ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's where you take something like a modern digital computer and do DSP
>>>> by using an interface modeled after 30 year-old analog audio equipment.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Therefore Pd is a technological parody ?
>>>
>>
>> A technological parody ought to be defined by:
>> 1.  usage of high-tech hardware to fulfill a low-tech purpose
>> 2.  an unwarranted degree of specialization or wasteful usage of hardware
>> size/power
>>
>
>  Guitar Hero.  It's a mockery of music and almost certainly a technological
> parody.
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Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Hi Patrice,

I think you didn't get my point... I mentioned Coltrane as an example of a
musician that extrapolated his own instrument from the 12-tone idea
(particularly from *A Love Supreme* on).

However, I think that open musical structures are a more complex subject to
put it into the "improvisation" badge. For instance, if you take Terry
Riley's "In C", to name a well-known piece, its structure is fairly open,
although no player improvises. This is also used in many musical pieces and
it was discussed even by Umberto Eco as *open works*...* *and correct me if
I'm wrong, but I think they differ from improvisation...

And again, what "whatever he likes" mean when you're using Pd? If you're the
composer *and* the performer, you're free to put whatever pleases you
aesthetically but that doesn't consist of improvisation, as I see. When you
design a patch in Pd you don't have *all* possibilities in your hands at any
given time, and that is why I think the idea of improvisation is, perhaps,
misinterpreted.

I'm not postulating an ultimate truth or mentality whatsoever, I'm just..
speculating. :)

Cheers!


On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:

>  If the musical structure you are playing on is opened,
> also when the player is free to put whatever he likes,
> you can call it an improvisation.
>  You don't need to be Coltrane to improvise,
>  what the hell is that mentality
>
>
> - "Pedro Oliveira"  a écrit :
>
> > Jumping on the discussion (not a frequent poster, but I do follow), I
> > must say I agree with Marco... but one question (kinda related, but at
> > the same time isn't): what would consist, then, "improvisation" when
> > using Pd?
> >
> >
> > I mean, if you consider free improvisation the only thing I can think
> > of, in five seconds, is "live coding". However, if you think of an
> > instrument there are also "pre-given" structures one must follow, that
> > is, pitch range, playability, timbre and so on. Roughly, with
> > traditional instruments (from western tradition) you can't go that far
> > away from the 12-tone paradigm (of course, a few exceptions here and
> > there with guys like Otomo Yoshihide for the guitar or Coltrane/Evan
> > Parker for Saxophone), but then, again... what is true improvisation
> > in the context of Pd, Max, whatever?
> >
> >
> > I'm asking because, like I said, I do agree with Marco - recombining
> > patterns doesn't consist of improvisation for me as well... and if
> > improvisation in that case consists of playing notes over the riffs
> > and patterns, why use a gestural controller? Just for the sake of
> > technology?
> >
> >
> > Such topic interests me a lot, I'd love to hear your thoughts :)
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Marco Donnarumma < de...@thesaddj.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ingo,
> > thanks for your explanation, I think to understand how he's playing.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The movement looks to me secondary - it's more like a dance movement
> > and not
> > too much music control.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This might be a very personal take, but if movement is secondary in
> > gestural control, why one uses gestural control at all?
> > I believe that effective and ancillary gestures are what reinforce our
> > perception of an instrument as a musical tool, rather than a mere
> > "device".
> > Imho many gestural controllers would benefit of a better focus on this
> > aspect.
> >
> >
> > How would you play such melodic lines (like those jazz licks) - in
> > time -
> > simply with gestural control?
> >
> >
> > Setting an array of preset chords, triggering them with multiple
> > switches, deploying a timeline which holds the trigger until the onset
> > of the next beat or quarter, etc...
> > I guess the list here could come up with many other methods.
> > I'm not saying that's trivial, I only think that it's not the "future"
> > as it is presented in the video.
> >
> >
> > How would you improvise on scales, pattern or
> > harmonic structures? After all he's a jazz player calling his music
> > "beat
> > jazz".
> >
> >
> >
> > What do you call improvisation in this case?
> > How much is he improvising?
> > I can imagine he's "improvising" with the melodic lines, but playing
> > samples and pres

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Jumping on the discussion (not a frequent poster, but I do follow), I must
say I agree with Marco... but one question (kinda related, but at the same
time isn't): what would consist, then, "improvisation" when using Pd?

I mean, if you consider *free* improvisation the only thing I can think of,
in five seconds, is "live coding". However, if you think of an instrument
there are also "pre-given" structures one must follow, that is, pitch range,
playability, timbre and so on. Roughly, with traditional instruments (from
western tradition) you can't go that far away from the 12-tone paradigm (of
course, a few exceptions here and there with guys like Otomo Yoshihide for
the guitar or Coltrane/Evan Parker for Saxophone), but then, again... what
is *true *improvisation in the context of Pd, Max, whatever?

I'm asking because, like I said, I do agree with Marco - recombining
patterns doesn't consist of improvisation for me as well... and if
improvisation in that case consists of playing notes over the riffs and
patterns, why use a gestural controller? Just for the sake of technology?

Such topic interests me a lot, I'd love to hear your thoughts :)

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:

> Ingo,
> thanks for your explanation, I think to understand how he's playing.
>
>
>> The movement looks to me secondary - it's more like a dance movement and
>> not
>> too much music control.
>>
>>
> This might be a very personal take, but if movement is secondary in
> gestural control, why one uses gestural control at all?
> I believe that effective and ancillary gestures are what reinforce our
> perception of an instrument as a musical tool, rather than a mere "device".
> Imho many gestural controllers would benefit of a better focus on this
> aspect.
>
>
>> How would you play such melodic lines (like those jazz licks) - in time -
>> simply with gestural control?
>
>
> Setting an array of preset chords, triggering them with multiple switches,
> deploying a timeline which holds the trigger until the onset of the next
> beat or quarter, etc...
> I guess the list here could come up with many other methods.
> I'm not saying that's trivial, I only think that it's not the "future" as
> it is presented in the video.
>
>
>> How would you improvise on scales, pattern or
>> harmonic structures? After all he's a jazz player calling his music "beat
>> jazz".
>>
>
> What do you call improvisation in this case?
> How much is he improvising?
> I can imagine he's "improvising" with the melodic lines, but playing
> samples and presets chords doesn't match my own definition of improvisation.
>
> cheers,
> M
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] Music Made with Pd

2011-02-09 Thread Pedro Oliveira
> since im am always interested in live performance of 'computer music',
> (all my own music is recorded live with pd+controller in a kind
> of dub-like way) i would of course like to know what you were
> doing there. some kind of slowed down samples (granular? phase
> vocoder?) and kind of resampling (maybe scanned synthesis?)
> i guess from the recording, but i would really like to know
> the details.
>

Actually that is my main interest also, and that's one of the reasons why
this small project "Performance for One" was created.

But about the technical setup it was my first time ever performing live with
Pd, so I kind of created an "ensemble" of possibilities I could work with,
however limiting myself to only four channels...

One of the channels deal with, yes, granular synthesis (thanks to the
nqpolywrap object) using long samples from the recordings (from 20 to 60
seconds), but what makes them interesting is the range that I allow the
grains to be selected from. From the grain synth to the output I have a
really really simple decimator effect which I can control the mix btw. dry
and wet signals.

The second channel has another really simple synth based on two phasors,
plus buckets full of reverb and some samphold to add "dirt".

The third channel is a so-called bass where I generate a random table with
six values, and play them with the Monome so everytime I generate new values
for the table I get new notes I'm not aware of, therefore I have to think
really quick.

Last but not least, the fourth channel has only one-shot samples, also taken
from the recordings. I divided them into three subgroups: short (no longer
than 15 seconds), long (up to 120 seconds) and "hammerfluegel" which is a
recording of the aforementioned instrument during the Opera.

Yeah, that's it. I tried to keep it really simple to avoid overwhelming my
processor and to be able to control as many parameters I could with the
devices. I don't know if it was clever, but it was my own way of solving
it...

Cheers,

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Re: [PD] Music Made with Pd

2011-02-07 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Last weekend I did a small performance at the "Hochschultage" at the HfK
Bremen, Germany. This is from a project called "Performance for One" which
is a small part of my research - more info about that soon ;)

100% improvised and played on the fly with a monome and a korg nanokontrol,
no edits... and the samples come from my own recordings from rehearsals for
Mozart's Don Giovanni at the Theater Bremen in 2010.

http://soundcloud.com/iburiedpaul/live-at-hfk-bremen

Hope you enjoy it!

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Bo Parker  wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Pierre Massat  wrote:
>
>> Hi, this the looper she used. I'm afraid it's very messy and buggy too, it
>> never really went past the experimental level as she never used it again
>> after the three songs were complete.
>> The table at the bottom is a very basic loop editor. Once the loop is ok
>> you bounce it to a track (select it to the right of the editor), which then
>> plays it back. You can send the sound to some sort of an effect bus (3
>> effects, two of which can be used by two different tracks).
>> This is very raw, i don't if it can be of any interest to you. What i find
>> interesting is the fact that she managed to produce some nice music off such
>> a messy patch without knowing Pd.
>>
>
>
>
> Thank you for this. I appreciate it, and, yes, I really did enjoy the music
> she made with it. And I find this to be interesting:
>
> 8<
> What i find interesting is the fact that she managed to produce some nice
> music off such a messy patch without knowing Pd.
> 8<
>
> So I'll just have to see what I can do with it.
>
> Thank you again :)
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Re: [PD] Res: music made with Pd

2010-10-04 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Hey there,

I saw your first video and it is a quite interesting sonic result. Would you
mind explaining how it works?

Cheers

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:53 AM, Eduardo Patricio wrote:

>
> Hi there!
>
> I'd like to share with you two recorded live performances made with my
> M.M.S. (a digital instrument: joystick + Pure Data)
>
>
> http://soundcloud.com/eduardopatricio/discos-de-cobre-2010
>
> http://soundcloud.com/eduardopatricio/electric-talk
>
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Eduardo
>
>
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> *Para:* pd-list 
> *Enviadas:* Sábado, 2 de Outubro de 2010 1:59:24
> *Assunto:* [PD] Res: Res: Res: music made with Pd
>
>
>
> Performance using Pd:
>
>
> http://vimeo.com/15466046
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Eduardo
>
>
>
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> *Para:* olsen 
> *Cc:* Eduardo Patricio ; pd-list 
> *Enviadas:* Quarta-feira, 7 de Julho de 2010 11:50:02
> *Assunto:* Re: [PD] Res: Res: music made with Pd
>
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2010, olsen wrote:
>
> >> http://www.cyberpresse.ca/images/bizphotos/569x379/201006/12/178123.jpg
> >> (really.)
> > like that! though the tracks are nice too - thanks for sharing man!
>
> Here's for you guys, a more detailed view of the score :
>
> http://artengine.ca/matju/musique/gamelan_binomial.png
>
> though in reality, this is a kind of « pre-score », as the data still needs
> to be transformed a bit. For example, this picture does not talk about the
> scale being used, and it also does not represent the way that notes are
> omitted.
>
> And then, the actual used part of the score was originally a small square
> in the top left... or a long strip of the same width in the case of
> « version trois ».
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Re: [PD] [readanysf~] refuse 96kbps ogg's!?!

2010-09-21 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Mp3 files seem to crash Pd this way when they have some ID3 Info. I don't
know exactly what causes this problem but I've solved re-exporting them
without any ID3 tag, specially artwork.

hope it helps.

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Raphael Raccuia <
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> Hi list,
> all in the title... I tried different types (mp3, wav, ogg, at different
> rates and frequencies...) Some didn't passed: "Invalid file or
> unsupported codec".
> The only relation I found on 12 ogg files, the five that didn't passed
> was at 96kbps rate.
> [readanysf~] seems a bit unstable: if I [open a_file( and then "compute
> audio", pd crashes (quit).
> Is it a problem to use four instances of the object in a patch? I'm
> building a multiple player for a performance...
>
> I'm on Ubuntu Lucid, PD-ext 0.42.5 (from repo), last [readanysf~] from
> rdz-ppa (had to move it from pd directory to pd-extended)...
>
> Thank's for your help...
>
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Re: [PD] PdCon09 & ISCL 2009 Brasil :Photos

2010-06-16 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Cool!

I went just on the very last day to see the performances and was looking for
documentation and audio files, in this link I found some. Super nice!

Many thanks!

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Renato Fabbri wrote:

> these pics brings me nice memories of moments and conversations.
>
> thanks Sergi.
>
>
> 2010/6/15  :
> > Hey Sergi,
> > moltisimes gracies per las tevas fotos ... bons records!
> > Pero falten mes fotos de gent .. tens altres?
> > Un salutacio i sort.
> >
> > Jose, donde andas escondido?
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Jose Luis Santorcuato :
> >
> >> Hey Sergi... nice memories good pics...
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> José
> >>
> >> 2010/6/10 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> :-D
> >>>
> >>> I added these to the wiki:
> >>> http://puredata.info/community/PdCon2009Media
> >>>
> >>> .hc
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:49 AM, Sergi Lario wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello list!
> >>>
> >>> Tha last days I've uploaded the photos that gave me my camera of the
> >>> pdcon09 and ISCL 2009.
> >>>
> >>>  :Better late than
> >>>  never<http://www.gallery.sergilario.com/main.php/v/pdcon09/>
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[PD] Turning off DSP crashes Pd

2010-05-18 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Hi all,

I'm having this problem with Pd, this started today with no reason.
Yesterday I was using Pd with no problems but today everytime I turn the DSP
off, it crashes. Actually, everytime I go to some audio settings turns out
that Pd crashes, even with no patches loaded. This is weird.

I'm using Pd-extended with no changes at all, running under Mac OSX 10.5.8 .
The only recent change I made in my computer so far was that I installed
MAX/MSP.

Does anyone know what it might be?

Thanks a lot.

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Re: [PD] My first two works in Pd

2010-04-05 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Hello folks,

Thanks for the comments so far.

The sources are here:
http://www.partidoalto.net/wp-content/uploads/contrapunctual_src.zip and
here: http://www.partidoalto.net/wp-content/uploads/soundofnowhere_src.zip

Please excuse my shitty coding :)

Viel Spaß!

Pedro

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Roberto Duarte wrote:

> hi Pedro,
> congratulations! I like your "The Sound of Nowhere" a lot.
> Q: Are you going to share this patch? if yes, I´m really interested, please
> let me know.
> Danke!
> Roberto
>
>
> El 29/03/2010, a las 16:03, Pedro Oliveira escribió:
>
> Leute,
>
> I've been struggling with Pd for a couple of months and finally I managed
> to kind of finish two main Projects I took along last Semester in my
> Masters.
>
> Of course there could be a lot of improvement but nevertheless, I'm proud
> of myself :)
>
>
> The first one is "The Sound of Nowhere", a self-sustainable sonic
> installation with a pretty simple and straight-forward idea: feedback.
>
> http://www.vimeo.com/10468199
>
> And the second is "Contrapunctual Improvisation of Whatever", an
> Installation that works with voice input to create small phrases for
> improvisation. A little more complex than the previous, but rather funny.
>
> http://www.vimeo.com/10481084
>
>
> I'm still organizing the source code and writing all acknowledgements
> before putting it online, and again, I know this may be silly and simple for
> most of you, but anyway, I'm excited with what I was able to do with Pd in
> six months or so.
>
> I hope you enjoy them :)
>
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[PD] My first two works in Pd

2010-03-29 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Leute,

I've been struggling with Pd for a couple of months and finally I managed to
kind of finish two main Projects I took along last Semester in my Masters.

Of course there could be a lot of improvement but nevertheless, I'm proud of
myself :)


The first one is "The Sound of Nowhere", a self-sustainable sonic
installation with a pretty simple and straight-forward idea: feedback.

http://www.vimeo.com/10468199

And the second is "Contrapunctual Improvisation of Whatever", an
Installation that works with voice input to create small phrases for
improvisation. A little more complex than the previous, but rather funny.

http://www.vimeo.com/10481084


I'm still organizing the source code and writing all acknowledgements before
putting it online, and again, I know this may be silly and simple for most
of you, but anyway, I'm excited with what I was able to do with Pd in six
months or so.

I hope you enjoy them :)

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Re: [PD] Pd Shirts

2010-03-28 Thread Pedro Oliveira
If there's a black version, I would like one :)

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:06 PM,  wrote:

> Am 28.03.2010 um 18:31 schrieb András Murányi:
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Andy Farnell 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah, and I want some as presents
>> for the RjDj boys that say [spigot]
>>
>
> like i said: logo is fixed :( making other logos later is an objective...
>
>
>> ;)
>>
>> On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:59:10 -0400
>> Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I want an orange bang-until!
>> >
>> > .hc
>> >
>> > On Mar 26, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
>> >
>> > > I think a black one would be cool in general.
>> > > I would love one.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > a black one might be difficult because the printing color is black
>> > > already - white would be really easy. is it only you who wants a black
>> > > one or do you think a black shirt is cool in general (how many shirts
>> > > should be black?) - i'll see what i can do
>> > >
>> > > pricing isnt settled - persons who buy them to sell them at
>> > > conventions will get the shirts at cost price. the profit feeds back
>> > > to pd community. most likely money will go into projects for
>> > > documentation (see earlier posts on the shirts).
>> > >
>> > > it would be nice to have a link on pd related sites such as
>> > > puredata.info so people know about it
>> > > best regards max
>> > >
>> > > Am 24.03.2010 um 20:56 schrieb Roberto Duarte:
>> > >
>> > > > how about a black one?
>> > > > how much anyway?
>> > > > best
>> > >
>>
>
> Yea how much and is there a preview somewhere?
>
> pricing will come as soon as i know the costprice. wont be 1 euro wont be
> 100 so somewhere around 1€ * 10 if thts any news. payment via bank transfer.
>
> Andras
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Re: [PD] video of Pd Workshop for 11 year olds

2010-03-18 Thread Pedro Oliveira
This is amazing. I would love to do the same, and I mean: learning Puredata
since I was a kid and/or having the opportunity to teach such young minds
the power of Pd. Inspiring.

Way to go!

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Andrew Faraday wrote:

>  Great to see this! I do a lot of my workshop teaching from a very basic,
> ground-up level. It's good to see that you can bring PD to that young an
> audience. Just curious, how long was this workshop overall?
>
> > From: h...@at.or.at
> > To: pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at
> > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:56:00 -0400
> > Subject: [PD] video of Pd Workshop for 11 year olds
>
> >
> >
> > Here's a video of a Pd workshop I taught with 11 year old kids in New
> > York. It was amazing how they picked it up and had so little fear to
> > experiment:
> >
> >
> http://eyebeam.org/press/media/videos/an-introduction-to-electronic-soundscape-design
> >
> > .hc
> >
> >
> 
> >
> > Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more
> > direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice,
> > it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith
> >
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[PD] Working with lists

2010-02-18 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Hello all,

I'm trying to figure out the best way to deal with lists in Pd but some
things are still not clear.

I have a table that changes its content "on the fly", e.g. taking input from
somewhere else and I'm using a select at a determined point to dump the
table as a list of values using the [tabdump] object. Then I would like to
interfere in some values in this list, either randomly or at a given
position, but the fact is that since this list is a bit big (30+ values) it
doesn't seem the best way to unpack it (my object would be gigantic, I
think) and deal with the single values. Is there a way to change a specific
value in a list without unpacking it in the first place?

Many thanks!

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Re: [PD] Retrieving MIDI Notes out of MIDI Numbers

2010-01-12 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Thank you so much :)

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:17 AM, ypatios  wrote:

> hello
>
>
> is there an object, or maybe an abstraction, to retrieve a MIDI Note's name
>> out of its MIDI Value? For instance, a 60 would retrieve me "C4" (roughly
>> speaking) and so on? I think that MAX has such object, but maybe I'm missing
>> something in Pd's documentation...
>>
>
> i made something like this once. although i am sure there are enough
> externals doing that..
>
> alabala
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[PD] Retrieving MIDI Notes out of MIDI Numbers

2010-01-11 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Hello People,

this is my first post in this list so far, even though I've been playing
around with Puredata for a couple of months... and I've been only recently
on the list and I have to say that I'm learning a lot with you :)

I'm sorry if this is somehow a newbie question (I'm forever a newbie), but I
searched for it and perhaps found the answer on Pd's forum, which is
offline... so here it goes:

is there an object, or maybe an abstraction, to retrieve a MIDI Note's name
out of its MIDI Value? For instance, a 60 would retrieve me "C4" (roughly
speaking) and so on? I think that MAX has such object, but maybe I'm missing
something in Pd's documentation...

thanks in advance!

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[PD] Listen and tag some music :)

2008-03-10 Thread António Pedro Oliveira
Apologies if this is not an appropriate mailing list. Just in case you
would like to listen (and tag) some music go to the following
address :) You'll need more or less 10 minutes for that.
http://student.dei.uc.pt/~apsimoes/PhD/Music/ismir08/index.html

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