Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
welcome to the list onyx, i liked your performance, and commend you for getting exposure for it. my only question is, how annoying must it be to get asked to play "Throw Ya Guns" at every gig ;) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] backwards ead~
instead of the [phaser~], send a [line~] (or [vline~]) signal. for example: [1, 0.5 500, 0 1000 500( | [vline~] like most of my patches, i don't think i originally made that one, someone else posted it, and i just copied. ;) must have been a long time ago though, cos i barely remember it. On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Stephan Elliot Perez < dreamoftheshoreofanotherwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Greetings, >I wish to produce a wave form with the opposite form of the normal > ead~ wave (the curves become exponentially steeper instead of flatter), > which I can achieve by entering a negative number into the phasor in hard > off's exact-ead~ patch, which I downloaded from the archive. However, I > still want to be able to independently change the length of the ascent, > decline, and distance between waves as is possible with ead~. Does anyone > know how I could do this, or possibly have access to an abstraction-version > of ead~? > > Best regards, > Stephan > > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] CVs
i like how the first post starts with, "I just got out of a long and heated argument" :D ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] CVs
sorry to nitpick, but half the world is currently 'night' ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] CVs
oh, you already said it was brilliant. oops! well, that's SPLENDID. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] CVs
ha ha, that's brilliant. love it! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] CVs
what about, if you had a wammy bar as long as an aircraft carrier, and then you struck it with a large chunk of dark matter? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Workshop: Switch from PureData! (Barcelona)
mick jagger prefers PD, so does david bowie. fair enough, andrew lloyd webber does all his operas in supercollider these days, but that guy did CATS in machine code, so he's pretty out there. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Cool Sequencer
one thing that was cool about the csq-600, was that you could make sequences of sequences. there were 4 patterns stored in memory, and you had a toggle switch for each one. so, if pattern A and pattern C were switched on, it would play patterns A,C,A,C...etc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Cool Sequencer
roland csq-600 did this back in the pre-midi days of cv/gate synthesizers. good idea to build it in pd though :) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
just uploaded 2 vanilla workouts. these are not tracks. just me jamming in the staffroom of the school where i work. not sure if they will change anyone's mind on anything, but i think they show a bit of dynamic range and the possibilities offered by vanilla pd and perseverance. http://soundcloud.com/vanilla-pd there are a lot of samples here, but all were originally created from scratch in vanilla pd. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dealing with large numbers (for rjdj)
try: [* 100] | [+ 0.5] | [int] what that does, is convert the 6 decimal place number into an integer, then you add 0.5 so that the rounding goes to the nearest integer, and then you use [int] to chop off any remaining overflow. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:07 AM, duncan speakman < duncan.kleindes...@gmail.com> wrote: > hi, > i'm trying to use the gps object in Pd as part of an RjDj scene and > their forum is down at the moment so i thought i'd look for help > here... > > so pd has a limit on the size of numbers it can use and i'm looking > for a simple way to break them down, (as i'm using RjDj i have to use > the vanilla pd so no extra object fun). > The GPS object apparently sends out numbers to 6 decimal places, (e.g. > 51.430023) which keeps causing problems in other parts of the patch. > I have tried removing the integer before the point and multiplying by > 1 to give me something manageable. In the above example I would > expect to get 4300.23 but instead i get something like 4300.23, > where are these extra numbers coming from? > Can anyone suggest a better way to deal with this data? > > regards > > duncan > > -- > http://duncanspeakman.net > http://subtlemob.com > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Spectral Shiffting
>>Cool, but where is it? ahh, maybe you need to log in to the forum to get access to attachments. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Spectral Shiffting
here's a frequency shifter that slur posted on the pd forum a little while ago: http://puredata.hurleur.com/viewtopic.php?pid=16842#p16842 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pitchshifter : fft-based?
thanks roman, handy! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Weird [delread~] behavior under -nogui
So having a [switch~] would solve all the -nogui initialization troubles? That is valuable to know. Thanks. that was just a guess. we actually got around it by modifying pd code. florian, sorry i can not post the link, because it wasn't me who did the hack. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Weird [delread~] behavior under -nogui
matteo, by putting a [switch~] in each patch, it could possibly alleviate the problem, because i assume the [switch~] object forces samplerate to be recalculated. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Weird [delread~] behavior under -nogui
i also ran into this problem. if i can remember correctly, the cause was something along the lines of: the pd samplerate needs to be set before the delayline code is initiated. if pd is run in gui mode, then the gui initialization forces the order correctly. however, when run in -nogui mode, the samplerate is set after the delayline code, and the calculation for the delayline is set with samplerate = 0 our hack was just to tweak the pd code to have a hardcoded samplerate. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd Shirts
i want one! how to order? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these, compare?
>> By the way I once collaborated with a guy who composes electroacustic music and now is doing a Ph.D. at Harvard University (I made some Pd patches for a piece he wrote)<< i hope you got paid. because he certainly is. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] easy effects?
http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-1982-diy2-effects-sample-players-synths-sound-synthesis ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] making hardware
one thing i always use a lot in my pd patches is called a 'wetfilter'. basically it is a bunch of bandpass filters, followed by delaylines of increasing length. kind of oldschool 'spectral delay'. so, i'd love to have this effect in a small hardware box, so i can put some drum machines and synths through it easily. what options are available for putting pd patches into small devices with audio in and out? and, slightly off topic for the pd list, is there already some type of generic 'stomp box' that can load C++ code or something to make effects? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Writing wave tables to disk
check out the help for [soundfiler] it can write as well as read. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Hello!
are you any relation to roger moore? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vertical column of msg boxes
that is a brilliant idea. if lines were always hidden behind boxes, patching would be so much neater. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vertical column of msg boxes
i agree with this suggestion too. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] metro limit
i'm not looking for suggestions. i'm just saying that the 1ms lower limit on metro speed is probably getting a bit outdated, and could be lowered to 0.01ms, to allow for sample accurate timing. i assume that 1ms was an arbitrary decision made years ago when computers were much less powerful, and for 99% of situations these days, a better resolution is still going to be 'safe'. also, there are so many other things that pd lets you do 'dangerously', so why not let us play with fire with the metro object too? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] metro limit
yeah yeah, i know, so don't let it go to infinitely small values, but 1ms is probably getting a bit outdated. surely it's time for a revision? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] metro limit
is there any need for the 1ms metro limit? couldn't it at least be lowered to 0.01ms to enable sample accurate timing? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] delwrite~ with dynamic length
when you think about it, in order to access data written, say 10 seconds ago, then you need to have written that data in the first place. so, for variable delaytimes, you have to choose the longest delay you will need, and set your delaywrite to that length. if you don't need realtime behaviour, and need to conserve cpu, then a workaround would be to have delwrite/read pairs of increasing lengths in subpatches, with [switch~] objects turning off all the subptaches except the one in current use. if you do that, and switch between delays in realtime, you're going to get all sorts of time-scrambled junk while the buffers fill up. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] float to a signal inlet
i don't want a built in line~. there are plenty of synths i have where i need to frequency to go to the correct value immediately. not to mention my lfo's. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] prefix (was Re: vu analog style scale?)
just checking how 'clever' the server is On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:29 PM, ypatios wrote: > embarrassed to say that i have been adding it myself all these years. i >> even take care to make [PD] in capital letters. >> >> it is information like this that needs more chapters in miller's books. >> > > hehe :) > > the thing is, i don't see your messages with a double prefix "[PD] [PD]" > which probably means that the server is clever enough to take care of us > "pluralists". > > alabala > > > -- > ypatios > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] prefix (was Re: vu analog style scale?)
embarrassed to say that i have been adding it myself all these years. i even take care to make [PD] in capital letters. it is information like this that needs more chapters in miller's books. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Podcast containing many Pd patches
great, downloading now. i 'dropped out' of pd for about a year and got into the oldschool hardware synthesizers, but recently i have picked up the ball again with the digital stuff and am on the lookout for some inspiration like this. cheers. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Convolution / Impulse Response
is it possible to do something vaguely similiar in vanilla pd? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] puredata forum
Neko has been working on transferring the forum to a new server (or something like that). I'm sure he is aware of the trouble and will get it fixed as soon as he can. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Playlist & get patch's path
or [getdir] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] a good filter for my sample reader...
for filtering samples, try this: run an [env~] detector from the sample player output, and smooth it with a [line]. then use that to modulate some parameter of your filter, such as the resonance or frequency. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?
>>What's more important, faster load times or less bugs? That's my concern.<< less bugs. every time. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pow~, etc. in Pd-extended 0.42.5
vanilla pd should always have priority. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pow~, etc. in Pd-extended 0.42.5
i think you have to look at which method would benefit the greatest amount of people. so, i think you'll find that far more people will benefit from proper vanilla compatibility straight out of the box, than will benefit from the cyclone library. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cooled~ for OSX intel
^ the mail above is also an example of why i don't want to release my stuff so much. all the patch is there, i am keeping no secrets. but still people expect me to do all the work to add features to something which i gave them for free and for which they can modify as they like. i get the feeling that a lot of the pd people are connected with universities and get some income from there. but i am just a single person who does not have any such affiliation, and i just do pd to amuse myself. it does get quite annoying that everything i give to people, i get "feature requests" for. i am giving you the whole patch. you can modify it for yourself. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cooled~ for OSX intel
honestly, one day i will figure out this 'internet' thing and upload all my stuff to whatever svn or cvs or whatever it is that the pd-extended all goes into. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cooled~ for OSX intel
i made a sound editor, if that's any use: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-1295-sound-editor ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Reuters on RjDj
video works fine for me on ubuntu. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] latency issue
>> So if you are 7.5m away from one of your band mates, there will 20ms of latency just from the sound travelling thru the air.<< if you are big enough to be playing on a stage that has 7.5m distance between band mates, then you don't need to worry anyway, as someone else is paid to sort out your technical issues while you do lines of coke with groupies backstage. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] blank line in msgfile
just a thought, but why not select some character that never normally appears in speech (eg the % sign, or something), and then use [sel %], and make a space when you have that character? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] An infinite number of acid + breakbeat loops + wii
yeah, that's fun. the logic behind the randomness is very good. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] spigot~ info please
once again, here is my abstraction that does everything exactly as the [spigot~] object does. if someone would like to include this in the 'extra' folder for pd-extended, it may be helpful to a few people. spigot%7E.pd Description: application/extension-pd ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Bizzare problem with freeverb~
oh, and the bad news was that the only way we could fix that problem was by modifying the pd source code. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Bizzare problem with freeverb~
i had some problem with a -nogui patch running [delwrite~],[delread~] pairs. it was a C programmer who eventually fixed the problem for me, but if i recall correctly, the issue was with the delayline samplerate not being set properly when pd is running nogui. running with gui seemed to introduce a slight delay which caused delayline samplerate to be initiatlized properly. i wouldn't be surprised if your freeverb~ problem is somehow related, as it also uses delaylines. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] tabwriteat~ object
[tabindex~] is the best one so far in my opinion. not sure if it'd be technically correct, but what about: [vtabwrite~] ??? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] RjDj turns 1.000.000 and 100.000
wow, monumental news!! big toast!! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] bang~ event resolution
i'm still at a loss to explain the effects observed in the attached patch: blocksizetester2.pd Description: application/extension-pd ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] is bang~ limited to a 64 sample block?
i wanted to make some effects which acted on segments of sound cut at zero crossings. i guess i will just try them out on tables, like in your patch above. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] is bang~ limited to a 64 sample block?
i wanted to send a bang on a zero-crossing ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] is bang~ limited to a 64 sample block?
I made a patch which times the duration between two bangs sent by [bang~]. If i set the blocksize to the default of 64, then each bang comes 1.4ms apart - as expected with 44.1khz samplerate. However, making the blocksize smaller has no effect on the duration between the bangs. Does bang~ have a speedlimit of 64 samples? If not, what is the limiting factor stopping me getting bangs more often than every 1.4ms? (test patch is attached) bangtest.pd Description: application/extension-pd ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] granulator for live performance
i posted a realtime granulator on the pd forum a while back. you may need to log in to the forum to get the attachment. http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-1932-grannie-basher-delay-line-granulator ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] RjDj recording - acoustic environment
here's a guy tripping his head off :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eJ2e80TACE&feature=related ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] -nogui troubles on mac
would it be possible for us to modify the source code (eg d_delay.c) to set a non-variable samplerate? in our case, the samplerate will always be 22050hz. or is it not as simple as i imagine? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] -nogui troubles on mac
yeah sorry, i tested on 0.42-5, and also on 0.41-4 and got the same thing. your help on this issue is really appreciated iohannes, thanks. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] -nogui troubles on mac
running mac os 10.4, and the latest version of vanilla pd with -nogui, the attached patch does not work how it should. the patch is a simple phasor~ ping sound, run through a [delread~] / [delwrite~] delayline. with gui turned on, it works as expected, making a feedback echo, but with -the nogui option enabled, the delayline is just making a small delay (my guess is one block) is this a known issue? are there other known issues with running -nogui on mac, or in general? this is the first definite trouble we have isolated, but i think we might have some other issues too. delaytest7.pd Description: application/extension-pd ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Good sequencer patches for learning?
i find that you can do a lot by building a simple arpeggiator sequence of just 3 or 4 notes, and then send messages to do things like: retrigger, reverse, transpose, change speed, etc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.42-5 released
ok, cheers, i'll search it out. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.42-5 released
is there any way to make the 'open' dialogue window ignore hidden files/folders? this seems to happen automatically with the version of pd-extended i have. (linux, ubuntu) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] abstraction creation audio engine start
just a sidenote, but you do know about [switch~] to turn off audio processing in a subpatch/abstraction, right? i used to have a patch that had about 3000 dsp building blocks (oscillators, filters, waveshapers, eq, effects, etc), and the patch just switched on each part when it was called. in this way everything was loaded at startup, and pd didn't need to create any new objects in realtime. i just had to be careful with blocking messages from going into [vline~] while the patch was switched off, because they started to make cumulatively longer and longer queues that got completely re-written every time a new message was sent. this was a known issue last year, so maybe it has been fixed for newer versions of pd? i still treat vline~ with caution though, just to be safe. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] max/ pd lexicon
hi steve, welcome! frank forgot to mention his excellent spectral delay. http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2007/feb/20/beginners-guide-fft-objects-pd/ also search for the following for a bit of fun: netpd , rjlib , diy2 just google "pure data" plus those words and yoU'll find them all. heaps more stuff out there. yoU'll find it. also check the forum, again google pure data forum for the link. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] abstraction creation audio engine start
what about something like sending a value to the inlet of an audio arithmetic object? would that update the dsptree? i'm wondering why the audio in my abstractions is working, because i don't think i am doing any of those things. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] abstraction creation audio engine start
hmm, i don't know. are you using a recent version of pd? i have dynamically created audio abstractions with no problem. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Need help for presenting workshop
a really good way to practically demonstrate PD is to build a simple patch in front of people. maybe practice building that patch a couple of times before you do the presentation. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] can't setup midi device - maybe alsa is missing.
YES! thank you Ed - you're a mega legend!!! pd is now controlling the squelch of my MKS-50 alpha juno rack. beautiful. .matt. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] can't setup midi device - maybe alsa is missing.
i just installed pd-0.42-4, but i can't get midi working. pd -listdev says i have no midi devices. The alsa Aconnectgui interface doesn't list pd as a midi device either, so my guess is that i missed something while installing. the install.txt file says to add this flag: --enable-alsa so, i assume that means i just type in: ./configure --enable-alsa ?? the midi device i am using is an edirol UM-1A and i works fine with pd-extended 0.40 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Creation Argument Weirdness
yeah weird. same thing here. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD t-shirts
yeah! that cake is awesome!!! how did it taste? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] abunch release
thanks hans, i was waiting to play with this. cheers. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD t-shirts
that's kind of cool, because it makes absolutely no sense when you look up close. On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Max wrote: > make this into a shirt: > > > > Am 01.04.2009 um 09:05 schrieb Derek Holzer: > > If you made one like this: >> >> http://www.avhc.es/pato/pics/computermusic.gif >> >> I'd buy it. >> >> Design by Ruben Patino. >> >> D. >> >> -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: >> http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: >> ---Oblique Strategy # 123: >> "Once the search has begun, something will be found" >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD t-shirts
please please please, make one with: [bang( | [until] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [equalizer] / [lowshelf] / [highshelf] in purepd!
cheers. very useful! silly question probably, but is biquad~ 100% vanilla? or is it sort of 'caramel' like expr ?? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] does anyone know of a good Eq I can use?
there are a few EQ units in my DIY library: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-1982-diy2-effects-sample-players-synths-sound-synthesis ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] a simple counter, I'm not able to do it tonight
if it is a problem to use [wrap], this should also work: [bang( | [f 100]x[+ 1] | [mod 200] | [- 100] | [abs] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] a simple counter, I'm not able to do it tonight
really? i mean the [wrap] that wraps numbers between two values. what do the other ones do? i know of the signal version of course. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Unified Library was Re: Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
so are we going to go ahead with this? does anyone want to volunteer to set up a wiki? i'm terrible at any of that sort of thing. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] a simple counter, I'm not able to do it tonight
make a normal counter: [f ]x[+ 1] with the outlet of [f ] going to the LEFT inlet of [+ 1] , and the outlet of [+ 1] going to the RIGHT inlet of [f ] then, [wrap -99 100] | [abs] if your limit was 1000, you would do [wrap -999 1000] ..etc hope that works. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] read sysex files (hex)
YES! thanks hans, and thanks mr peach! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] change samplerate locally
i had a minor breakthrough. upsampling my signal path, by using [block~ 64 1 2] has the same effect on the sound as lowering pd's global sample rate to 22050. not perfect, and to me it defies logic, but certainly a lot closer to the 28khz sound than the 44.1khz sound was getting. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] change samplerate locally
so if those aliasing effects are going to help, then maybe a big step will be to ADD aliasing. there are a couple of suggestions here: http://www.music.columbia.edu/pipermail/music-dsp/2002-March/047953.html and here: http://www.music.columbia.edu/pipermail/music-dsp/2002-March/047966.html i'll give them a go tomorrow. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] change samplerate locally
>>One thing that occurs to me is that the quality of the reconstructed sound has more to do with the interpolator rather than the sample rate.<< i have a feeling that because the synth has non-bandlimited oscillators, that the sample rate itself is pretty important, or more importantly, the aliasing effect it has is very important. i think that that reason why 28khz is sounding 'better' than 44.1 is because of more high frequencies folding back over and thickening the sound up in the low end. i could be totally wrong, but that's what it sounds like. 44.1khz is 'thin and wimpy', but at 28khz it's a thicker, fuller sound. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Unified Library was Re: Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
yeah sorry frank, i should have explained more clearly. i also think that no GUI is the way to go for functional abstractions. that was the big flaw of the DIY library i did, that the function of the abstractions was tied in with the gui component. i did it that way because i didn't want to clutter the namespace with too many abstractions, and the thought of one abstraction for function, and then a different one for GUI was not appealing at the time. but now, i think that is the only way to go. like, as you said, for polyphony. and then also for the many many cases in which you'd want to build your own gui for custom control. i do think you guys have got a really really strong system there with rjlib. but i was just saying that without the gui stuff, it doesn't exactly fit into being that 'all purpose building blocks' library that we are discussing. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] change samplerate locally
actually, i just checked and that method i suggested before doesn't work at all. it's the same as the [phasor~ 28000] - [samphold~] effect. martin, i missed this part of your mail before: >>Unless you're looking for aliasing artifacts, wouldn't it be easier to use a multi-pole low-pass filter at around 14kHz?<< i just tried that, and i guess what i need must be the aliasing artifacts. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] steep filter?
chebychev filters look good, elliptic ones look better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Electronic_linear_filters.svg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] steep filter?
it's not possible to filter without ANY roll-off as far as i know. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] change samplerate locally
hi martin, thanks for taking the time to reply. i can set pd to whatever samplerate i want in media->audio settings. i just checked again going through a whole bunch of values between 22050 and 44100 and they all work. my problem is that the samplerate is global, and i need it only to be local. i think the 'solution' i suggested in my 2nd post is going to be the way to do it, but i just don't know how to do that. [*~ 2048] > | > [expr~ $v1%2048] > | > [/~ 2048] > thanks. that's what i had done originally, but i couldn't hear any effect. i guess if i really want 12-bit sound in pd, i'd have to use that construct after each and every calculation in the signal chain. seems a fair bit of overkill just to make the sound WORSE though! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Unified Library was Re: Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
>>But I think that we don't really know well enough how to do the whole thing right<< i have good experience in doing a library wrong. :) i can at least point out the flaws in that so they don't get repeated. none of the libraries are very good general all-purpose toolkits though, in my opinion. i guess that's mainly because none of them have really been designed as general toolkits. there is heaps of good stuff in rjdj, but it's all for the phone, which has no pd GUI component. netpd on the other hand, everything has a gui, and it's all designed to work well as a part of the netpd system. but it's a little bit tricky to then use the netpd patches outside of netpd. not really spent too much time with pdmtl, but that just seems like more of a collection of patches than an actual library. s-abstractions and the diy library i did both fall down a bit for me because they tie the functionality of the patches in too much with the gui and state saving. i think what hans is talking about and what we are discussing might be completely different things though. i think hans is talking about a truly unified library to join together all the different pieces in pd-extended and put them all together in a logical and user-friendly manner. which would be a pretty massive project, i admit. i think though, what we're talking about here is more just like a collection of tools to build synths, sequencers, effects, samplers, recorders, soundfile players, etc etc etc. most of the libraries already mentioned are doing that. but the problem is that there are no unified conventions for patching, naming, licencing, etc. and it would be nice to have all the best and most useful bits of each library in one place, all working together, and all very simply and easily ported into other pd projects. i think it's well within our reach to do that at the moment. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] change samplerate locally
so, i thought about this more, and realized that 28hz is quite close to being 2/3 of 44.1 so, it MIGHT be enough to do the following: for every 3 samples, output the first sample, the second sample, and then instead of playing the 3rd sample, repeat the second sample. so, if my block looks like: 0.597, 0.604, 0.628, 0.651.. then the output block would be 0.597, 0.604, 0.604, 0.651 ... i still have no idea how i would do that. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] change samplerate locally
to re-create the sound of a dx7 i need to change samplerate from my default (44.1khz) to 28khz. globally changing pd's samplerate to 28khz has the intended effect, but i want to be able to run other patches at 44.1khz while running my dx7 at 28khz. i naively tried adding this construct to the output, but the sound is completely wrong: (if it doesn't show, the phasor~ is connected to the right inlet of the [samplehold~]) [inlet~] [phasor~ 28000] | | [samplehold~] | [outlet~] i thought about it for a bit, and i understand why that doesn't work, but i can't think of another solution. is there some way i can 'mimic' 28khz samplerate while running pd at 44.1? or even better, is there some way to locally set the samplerate for a patch? i tried messing round with [block~] but i can't make it do what i need. also, i need to mimic a 12bit DAC~ too. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] read sysex files (hex)
is there a way to read .syx files in pd? these are in raw hex format. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
i think this idea of making a unified library of patches is fantastic. but i don't think it should be a project given to a student with little experience in pd. i'd be more than happy to help out. what would be the best way to set up communications between us, if we take this on? that would be the first step i guess. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] adaptive amplification?
a compressor? there's a good one in the net-pd library. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] how to freeze pd
* create a subpatch * create an object box in the subpatch, but don't type anything inside the box * go back to the parent patch and convert the subpatch into another object (i tried to make it a [send]) * enjoy pd freeze ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended
a very simple solution would be to use a subpatch instead of an abstraction in the help files. [pd output~] this would also remedy the problem reported more often: "why doesn't the output~ object work when i copy the help files to my desktop?" ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list