Re: [PD] Fwd: Disabling of packages to build...
Hi, ok, I will try it again...fingers crossed... Funs Seelen [10-08-01 05:20]: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Funs Seelen > Date: 2010/7/31 > Subject: Re: [PD] Disabling of packages to build... > To: meino.cra...@gmx.de > > > > > 2010/7/31 > > > Hello Funs, > > > > Funs Seelen [10-07-31 22:28]: > > > Hello Meino, > > > > > > 2010/7/31 > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > while fighting for a successful compilation of Pd-0.41.4-extended > > > > the build process falls over a certain package which I have now > > > > decided to exclude. > > > > > > > > Where can I disable the build and install of packages from > > > > Pd-extended? > > > > > > > > What do you mean with "packages"? Building pd depends on some packages > > (as > > > I recently learned for example "tk8.*-dev"). You can't exclude them, but > > you > > > just need to install them: > > > > > > $ sudo apt-get install the_package_i_need > > > > > > If you mean "libraries" or "objects" editing "Makefile" might be helpful. > > > > > > $ nano Makefile > > > > > > But then I would rather build pd-0.42-5 and install the external > > libraries > > > you need or listen to Hans and build his latest release candidate (I > > don't > > > know where he hid the source code). 0.42-5 makes editing a little easier. > > > > I checked out pd-extended-0.42 (release code) and tried several > > times to compile/installed it but it failed due to errors, which > > are not based on missing dependencies. And finally I gave up. > > > > Now I tried the stable pd-extended release and again fall over > > packages not compiling. > > > > I am frustrated about that. > > > > I can understand. > > > > I think I gave it up finally. > > > > If you "think" you gave up and you're not sure 100% about that here are > some possible solutions: > > - Quit working on it for now and wait at least until tomorrow; > > - Tell us what system you are running (maybe others have had the same > problem before or have an already-built-package for your platform) & > - write down the output of the errors; > > - Download pd-0.42-5 http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html, install > "tk8.5-dev" (if using linux) and build it (see "README.txt") & > - install the libraries you need afterwards. > I am on Gentoo-Linux, which I freshly installed a month ago. With the Gentoo system I had previously I experimented with pd-overlay and ebuilds, which are not supported by the Gentoo crew, which tends to make things more complicated than easier. The current system has to last longer than the previous one, so I willl no longer unmask packages or install overlays and ebuilds from other sources than from the Gentoo-crew itsself. In case of the need to install things not supported by the Gentoo-crew those have to compile out-of-the-box (classical way of installing which only system dependency is of "being on a linux box" instead of makeing diffderences what distribution is used.) By the way: pd-extended searches for dpkg-* executables and than thinks of being on Debian and installs everything into /usr/bin instead of /usr/local/bin. My opinion is, that this logic is not working in every case. Gentoo offers dpkg-* utils also. The result is that pd-extended gets installed into places, which are only for ebuilds. (Takes me some time to figure out, whether everything wants to go to /usr...) As long as there are no official ebuilds for Gentoo, pd-extended should keep its fingers off /usr. If the distribution cannot figured out 100% surely, break the installation process or ask the user for help. The existence or not-existence of certain tools is not strong logic. Only my two cents, your currency may vary... ;) --- I compiled pd-0.42-5 from the link you gave me, and it compiles/installes well. Unfortunately I have no clue, how install the rest, which makes the now installed pd-vanilla into pd-extended... Best regards, mcc > > Thanks for all help I got here. > > > > bye > > > > Best regards, > > mcc > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for any help in advance! > > > > Best regards, > > > > mcc > > > > > > > > I hope this somehow is an answer to your question. If not I'm sorry for > > not > > > understanding your question right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> ht
[PD] Disabling of packages to build...
Hi, while fighting for a successful compilation of Pd-0.41.4-extended the build process falls over a certain package which I have now decided to exclude. Where can I disable the build and install of packages from Pd-extended? Thank you very much for any help in advance! Best regards, mcc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Stabel release?
Hi,
ok, here is something:
>From svn I downloaded the complete pd-extended sources as described.
After starting the compilation process as described, it fails with the
following lines.
By the way: Would be nice to update the build-instructions (name of
the root dir isnt correct).
install -d
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/hcs/hid/hid.pd_linux \
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/hcs/hid/*.pd
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid
install -d
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid/examples
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/hcs/hid/examples/*.pd \
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid/examples
install -d
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/*.pd_linux
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/abstractions/*.pd
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/objects/*.*
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp
install -d
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/manual
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/reference.txt \
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/manual
install -d
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/examples
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/introduction/*.* \
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/examples
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/examples/*.* \
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/examples
install -d
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pidip
install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pidip/*.pd_linux
/tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pidip
install: cannot stat `/tmp/pd-extended/externals/pidip/*.pd_linux': No such
file or directory
make[2]: *** [pidip_install] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/pd-extended/externals'
make[1]: *** [externals_install] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/pd-extended/packages'
make: *** [install] Error 2
Best regards,
mcc
Hans-Christoph Steiner [10-07-30 20:04]:
>
> Any day now. I think there are no outstanding problems with the latest
> release candidate version, so I just want to wait a bit before making it
> the final release.
>
> So please test it and report problems, bugs, etc! Otherwise it'll be
> too late...
>
> .hc
>
> On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 19:37 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > (warning! I am not a native English speaker! :) )
> >
> > First of all: This is NO form of critism, urging, hurry-up message or
> > anything else than a wish for information...
> >
> > A time ago I saw mail here announcing different release codes of the
> > upcoming new version of pd-extra.
> >
> > When I the "final release" ("stable" or how it is called) planned?
> >
> > Thank you very much for your help in advance!
> > Best regards,
> > mcc
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [PD] Stabel release?
Hi,
thank you for your reply, Hans-Christoph!
I browsed throug the pd-download section of http://puredata.info/downloads
but I cant find the release code stuff.
I need the source code and if possible a link to a compilation
tutorial...
best regards,
mcc
Hans-Christoph Steiner [10-07-30 20:00]:
>
> Any day now. I think there are no outstanding problems with the latest
> release candidate version, so I just want to wait a bit before making it
> the final release.
>
> So please test it and report problems, bugs, etc! Otherwise it'll be
> too late...
>
> .hc
>
> On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 19:37 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > (warning! I am not a native English speaker! :) )
> >
> > First of all: This is NO form of critism, urging, hurry-up message or
> > anything else than a wish for information...
> >
> > A time ago I saw mail here announcing different release codes of the
> > upcoming new version of pd-extra.
> >
> > When I the "final release" ("stable" or how it is called) planned?
> >
> > Thank you very much for your help in advance!
> > Best regards,
> > mcc
> >
> >
> >
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[PD] Stabel release?
Hi,
(warning! I am not a native English speaker! :) )
First of all: This is NO form of critism, urging, hurry-up message or
anything else than a wish for information...
A time ago I saw mail here announcing different release codes of the
upcoming new version of pd-extra.
When I the "final release" ("stable" or how it is called) planned?
Thank you very much for your help in advance!
Best regards,
mcc
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[PD] Check of installation
Hi, how can I check, whether an installation of pd-extended is complete and ok beside the "it beeps" when I call the audio check functionality in the menu of pd? Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] INstalling pd-extended from source
András Murányi [10-04-06 20:40]: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:47 PM, wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > a moment ago I installed pd-extended on my linux-box from source. > > The compilation process runs till something, which looks like a > > successfuill end. > > > > My question is: > > Pd-extended seems to consist of a *illion packages. > > If compilation of one would fail: Does the whole compilation will > > stop? Or does the steering makefiel will ignore that error and > > proceed with the next task? > > > > Or with other words: If the end of compilation is an end without an > > error message in the last lines of output: Is the whole package > > installed successfully or do I have -- may be -- in incomplete > > installation ? > > > > Thank you very much in advance for any help! > > Best regards, > > mcc > > > > > > > Hello Meino, > > what you want to know is if Make will fail on a failed external or will go > on with the others - the answer is yes, by default it will stop there, and > you shall be able to see the error somewhere among the last lines. You can, > however, tell it ignore failing externals (afaik). > What HC told is true as well, a successful compile process will not say > anything like 'SUCCESS' by itself - instead, it might tell you 'Error! > Nothing to do' which actually stands for 'Success! Open a bottle of > champagne' > > Andras Hi Andras, thanks for your reply! I didn't expect a compiler output like "everything ist fine, have a nice day!". I know of makefile systems which simply compile "as much as possible" and "install as much as possible" where "as much as possible" should be read as "incomplete" ;) In my opinion a make process should fail/stop with the first error it encounters. Good to know that pd seems to be one of this last kind ... I noticed that pd is said (according to the docs) expects everyting under "/usr/local" and installs itsself under "/usr/" (without modifications done by myself)??? And: If I download the source archive of pd-extended...is this complete? Or do I have to do a cvs/svn checkout as stated by the docs. Everything seems to be a little inconsistence it seems (may be only in my head, may be outside my head, may be both)... Best regards, mcc > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] INstalling pd-extended from source
Hi, a moment ago I installed pd-extended on my linux-box from source. The compilation process runs till something, which looks like a successfuill end. My question is: Pd-extended seems to consist of a *illion packages. If compilation of one would fail: Does the whole compilation will stop? Or does the steering makefiel will ignore that error and proceed with the next task? Or with other words: If the end of compilation is an end without an error message in the last lines of output: Is the whole package installed successfully or do I have -- may be -- in incomplete installation ? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] "Open file" in specific directory
Ok, thanks a lot. I hoped, that there was a configuration item to set... dmotd [10-03-23 05:00]: > the open dialog's path starts from wherever pd was launched, > and if you are launching pd from a menu item, then it starts > from where the desktop manager was launched etc etc.. > > you can test this out by launching pd from a console, > starting at the folder you desire. if you need this to > always be the case create a wrapper shell script for pd > which changes directory (cd /path/) previous to launching, > or simply create an alias to pd in your .bashrc : > > alias pd='cd /usr/lib/pd ; pd ; cd $OLD_PWD' > > -- > > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi Inaudible, > > > > ...sorry...I meant the "Open"-dialog, which > > I can access via the menu in the console panel. > > That I hadnt clearly said... > > > > > > > > dmotd [10-03-23 04:24]: > > > send [openpanel] a symbol of the path to its inlet. > > > > > > [symbol /usr/lib/pd [ > > > | > > > [openpanel] > > > > > > -- > > > > > > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > how can I convince pd-extended to start the fileselector > > > > box in a specific directory which is not my $HOME ? > > > > (I am using pd-extended on Linux). > > > > > > > > Thank you very much in advance for your help! > > > > Best regards, > > > > mcc > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments > > > > unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. > > > > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > ___ > > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > -- > > Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments > > unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. > > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. > > > > > > ___ > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] "Open file" in specific directory
Hi Inaudible, ...sorry...I meant the "Open"-dialog, which I can access via the menu in the console panel. That I hadnt clearly said... dmotd [10-03-23 04:24]: > send [openpanel] a symbol of the path to its inlet. > > [symbol /usr/lib/pd [ > | > [openpanel] > > -- > > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > how can I convince pd-extended to start the fileselector > > box in a specific directory which is not my $HOME ? > > (I am using pd-extended on Linux). > > > > Thank you very much in advance for your help! > > Best regards, > > mcc > > > > -- > > Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments > > unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. > > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. > > > > > > ___ > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] "Open file" in specific directory
Hi, how can I convince pd-extended to start the fileselector box in a specific directory which is not my $HOME ? (I am using pd-extended on Linux). Thank you very much in advance for your help! Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Playing soundfile via array
Hi Lorenzo, thanks for your fast reply ! :) And thanks for the testpatch!!! :))) ...again the same behaviour,,, PD says: "succesfully loaded" and the array remains empty. Would it be possible to send me a short wav file via private email from which you know, that it works? That way I could decide whether my sound file is to blame or my pd-extended installation has a porblem... By the way: The "boxes" you used in the both patches (sorry...neither English is my mothers tongue nor am I a pd-guru...I am the opposite of it ;) ) ...are they contents of pd-vanilla or extension which I only will find in pd-extended??? Thanks a lot in advance! :) Have a nice weekend! Best regards, Meino Lorenzo [10-03-19 16:00]: > Hi meino, > > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > >Hi Lorenzo, > > > >sorry for answering your posting that late...I was very busy last time > >and have no chance to pure data :) at all. > > > No problem I know what you mean ;) > >Thank you very much for the patch! > >I tried it. The console say, that the > >sound file was successfully loaded. And > >the patch stated to have found 5379 samples, but > >when I click to see the array1's contents, > >I only notice a flat line and clicking to > >hear the audio produces the "Sound of Silence" > > > That is strange because if the output of [soundfiler] is the number of > samples then if should have loaded the file (I think)... This seems > stupid but are you sure an array1 wasn't already present (it's like the > most famous array name in the help files :) > >MPlayer (I am using pd extended on Linux) has no problems > >to play the file, so I think it is ok... > > > >"Wavinfo" is not known by my installation of Pure Data > >(Gentoo Linux, pd-overlay). > > > I think wavinfo is only in pd extended > >Since the only thing, the console's output displays is > >a "Success Warning" ;) I am a little like being > >in the middle of nowhere... > > > >What can I try next? > > > Not sure... Waht happns with the attached test patch? Can you see the > file in the table? > >Have a nice weekend! > >Best regards! > >mcc > > > > > You too. > Lorenzo > > >Lorenzo [10-03-15 13:34]: > > > >> > >>>Look into Media -> Audio Settings... , and change the sample rate > >>>to > >>>22050. > >>> > >>>Pierre > >>> > >>>2010/3/11mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de>> > >>> > >>>Hi, > >>> > >>>thanks to you all for help! > >>> > >>>...how can I change the default samplerate? > >>> > >>>I found [samplerate~ ] but there is no help file > >>>for it (it least with my installation on Gentoo)? > >>> > >>> > >>In this case the samplerate of the file is important. You could use > >>[tabread4~] with a [line~] after calculating the needed length for > >>the > >>[line~] > >> > >>Have a look at the attached patch for an idea.. > >> > >>all the best, > >>Lorenzo. > >> > > > >>#N canvas 92 93 691 480 10; > >>#X obj 62 34 soundfiler; > >>#X obj -74 400 tabread4~ array1; > >>#X obj -158 290 f; > >>#X obj -74 374 line~; > >>#X obj -84 455 dac~; > >>#X obj 47 284 f; > >>#X floatatom 185 62 10 0 0 0 - - -; > >>#X text 177 40 total samples; > >>#X obj -143 156 /; > >>#X obj -143 101 t f b; > >>#X text -255 143 length in seconds; > >>#X text -253 131 needed; > >>#X obj -74 311 pack f f; > >>#X obj -246 256 t b b; > >>#X obj -246 231 bng 20 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -261682 > >>-1 -1; > >>#X msg 62 8 read -resize ./test.wav array1; > >>#X msg -113 27 22050; > >>#X msg -70 27 44100; > >>#X msg -23 27 48000; > >>#X msg -244 398 \; pd dsp \$1; > >>#X obj -244 366 tgl 20 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 > >>1 1; > >>#X msg -74 341 0 \, \$2 \$1; > >>#X obj 113 181 table array1; > >>#X obj -143 188 * 1000; > >>#X floatatom -126 214 10 0 0 0 - - -; > >>#X text 188 181<- click to see array; > >>#X obj -128 125 f; > >>#X obj -70 5 loadbang; > >>#X obj -260 85 wavinfo; > >>#X text -295 83 with; > >>#X text -295 46 (*) you could also get; > >>#X text -296 63 this automatically; > >>#X obj 259 7 cnv 15 120 20 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -257985 > >>-66577 > >>0; > >>#X obj -288 3 cnv 15 120 20 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -257985 > >>-66577 > >>0; > >>#X obj -285 207 cnv 15 120 20 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -257985 > >>-66577 0; > >>#X text -281 207 play entire array; > >>#X text -287 4 chose files's sample rate first (*); > >>#X text 259 7<- then read file; > >>#X obj -223 366 cnv 15 120 20 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -257985 > >>-66577 0; > >>#X text -220 368 dsp on/off; > >>#X text -93 179 you need milliseconds; > >>#X text -94 194 for [line~]; > >>#X connect 0 0 6 0; > >>#X connect 0 0 5 1; > >>#X connect 0 0 9 0; > >>#X connect 1 0 4 0; > >>#X connect 1 0 4 1; > >>#X connect 2 0 12 0; > >>#X connect 3 0 1 0; > >>#X connect 5 0 12 1; > >>#X connect 8 0 23 0; > >>#X connect 9 0 8 0; > >>#X connect 9 1 26 0; > >>#X connect 12 0 21 0; > >>#X connect 13 0 2 0; > >>#X connect 13 1 5 0; > >>#X connect 14 0 13 0; > >>#X connect 15 0 0 0; > >>#X
Re: [PD] Playing soundfile via array
Hi Lorenzo, sorry for answering your posting that late...I was very busy last time and have no chance to pure data :) at all. Thank you very much for the patch! I tried it. The console say, that the sound file was successfully loaded. And the patch stated to have found 5379 samples, but when I click to see the array1's contents, I only notice a flat line and clicking to hear the audio produces the "Sound of Silence" MPlayer (I am using pd extended on Linux) has no problems to play the file, so I think it is ok... "Wavinfo" is not known by my installation of Pure Data (Gentoo Linux, pd-overlay). Since the only thing, the console's output displays is a "Success Warning" ;) I am a little like being in the middle of nowhere... What can I try next? Have a nice weekend! Best regards! mcc Lorenzo [10-03-15 13:34]: > > >Look into Media -> Audio Settings... , and change the sample rate to > >22050. > > > >Pierre > > > >2010/3/11 mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de>> > > > >Hi, > > > >thanks to you all for help! > > > >...how can I change the default samplerate? > > > >I found [samplerate~ ] but there is no help file > >for it (it least with my installation on Gentoo)? > > > In this case the samplerate of the file is important. You could use > [tabread4~] with a [line~] after calculating the needed length for the > [line~] > > Have a look at the attached patch for an idea.. > > all the best, > Lorenzo. > #N canvas 92 93 691 480 10; > #X obj 62 34 soundfiler; > #X obj -74 400 tabread4~ array1; > #X obj -158 290 f; > #X obj -74 374 line~; > #X obj -84 455 dac~; > #X obj 47 284 f; > #X floatatom 185 62 10 0 0 0 - - -; > #X text 177 40 total samples; > #X obj -143 156 /; > #X obj -143 101 t f b; > #X text -255 143 length in seconds; > #X text -253 131 needed; > #X obj -74 311 pack f f; > #X obj -246 256 t b b; > #X obj -246 231 bng 20 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -261682 > -1 -1; > #X msg 62 8 read -resize ./test.wav array1; > #X msg -113 27 22050; > #X msg -70 27 44100; > #X msg -23 27 48000; > #X msg -244 398 \; pd dsp \$1; > #X obj -244 366 tgl 20 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 > 1 1; > #X msg -74 341 0 \, \$2 \$1; > #X obj 113 181 table array1; > #X obj -143 188 * 1000; > #X floatatom -126 214 10 0 0 0 - - -; > #X text 188 181 <- click to see array; > #X obj -128 125 f; > #X obj -70 5 loadbang; > #X obj -260 85 wavinfo; > #X text -295 83 with; > #X text -295 46 (*) you could also get; > #X text -296 63 this automatically; > #X obj 259 7 cnv 15 120 20 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -257985 -66577 > 0; > #X obj -288 3 cnv 15 120 20 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -257985 -66577 > 0; > #X obj -285 207 cnv 15 120 20 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -257985 > -66577 0; > #X text -281 207 play entire array; > #X text -287 4 chose files's sample rate first (*); > #X text 259 7 <- then read file; > #X obj -223 366 cnv 15 120 20 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -257985 > -66577 0; > #X text -220 368 dsp on/off; > #X text -93 179 you need milliseconds; > #X text -94 194 for [line~]; > #X connect 0 0 6 0; > #X connect 0 0 5 1; > #X connect 0 0 9 0; > #X connect 1 0 4 0; > #X connect 1 0 4 1; > #X connect 2 0 12 0; > #X connect 3 0 1 0; > #X connect 5 0 12 1; > #X connect 8 0 23 0; > #X connect 9 0 8 0; > #X connect 9 1 26 0; > #X connect 12 0 21 0; > #X connect 13 0 2 0; > #X connect 13 1 5 0; > #X connect 14 0 13 0; > #X connect 15 0 0 0; > #X connect 16 0 26 1; > #X connect 17 0 26 1; > #X connect 18 0 26 1; > #X connect 20 0 19 0; > #X connect 21 0 3 0; > #X connect 23 0 24 0; > #X connect 23 0 2 1; > #X connect 26 0 8 1; > #X connect 27 0 17 0; > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Playing soundfile via array
Hi, thanks to you all for help! ...how can I change the default samplerate? I found [samplerate~ ] but there is no help file for it (it least with my installation on Gentoo)? Best regards, mcc Pierre Massat [10-03-11 18:04]: > Hi, > > Pd says your wav file is at 22050 Hz? Maybe your Pd session is at the > default rate (44100 if i m not mistaken), that's why it doesn't sound like > it should. > Your patch looks fine to me, I mean it should work. > > Pierre > > 2010/3/11 > > > > > Hi, > > > > (using Pd version 0.41.4-extended on Gentoo Linux (pd-overlay)) > > > > I am trying to read a short soundfile (wav/aiff) from disc > > into an array and then play the data of the array into a [dac~]. > > In the meanwhile to sounds like "something" but itt has nothing > > to do with the original file, which plays well via mplayer, vlc etc. > > > > > >#> file oneshot.wav > > > > gives me > > > >oneshot.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 > > bit, stereo 22050 Hz > > > >#> file oneshot.aiff > > > > gives me > > > >oneshot.aiff: IFF data, AIFF audio > > > > Only reading the file via the last "raw" command fills the array with > > anything else then nulls. Both top commands seem to do nothing at all. > > > > I copied the stuff from different help entries. > > > > Attached you will find the according patch. > > > > What did I wrong with this? > > > > Thank you very much in advance for any help! > > mcc > > > > > > -- > > Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments > > unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. > > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. > > > > ___ > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Playing soundfile via array
Hi, (using Pd version 0.41.4-extended on Gentoo Linux (pd-overlay)) I am trying to read a short soundfile (wav/aiff) from disc into an array and then play the data of the array into a [dac~]. In the meanwhile to sounds like "something" but itt has nothing to do with the original file, which plays well via mplayer, vlc etc. #> file oneshot.wav gives me oneshot.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo 22050 Hz #> file oneshot.aiff gives me oneshot.aiff: IFF data, AIFF audio Only reading the file via the last "raw" command fills the array with anything else then nulls. Both top commands seem to do nothing at all. I copied the stuff from different help entries. Attached you will find the according patch. What did I wrong with this? Thank you very much in advance for any help! mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. #N canvas 590 75 737 1007 24; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 (subpatch) 0; #X array array1 5379 float 0; #X coords 0 1 5378 -1 300 100 1; #X restore 131 321 graph; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 (subpatch) 0; #X array array2 5381 float 4; #X coords 0 1 5380 -1 300 100 1; #X restore 131 427 graph; #X obj 17 262 soundfiler; #X floatatom 16 343 0 0 0 0 - - -; #X msg 452 557 \; pd dsp 0; #X msg 177 556 \; readout 1 \; pd dsp 1 \;; #X floatatom 30 975 0 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 36 889 env~ 16384; #X obj 109 855 *~; #X obj 245 925 line~; #X msg 297 847 0 100; #X obj 109 953 hip~ 5; #X msg 41 670 bang; #X msg 14 632 set array2; #X obj 35 802 tabplay~ array2; #X obj 111 1029 dac~; #X msg 266 741 22050 1000; #X msg 125 742 0 22050; #X msg 283 805 100 100; #X msg 68 709 22050; #X msg 35 67 read /tmp/oneshot.wav array2; #X msg 56 152 read -resize /tmp/oneshot.wav array2; #X msg 63 203 read -raw 128 2 2 b /tmp/oneshot.wav array2; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 7 0 6 0; #X connect 8 0 11 0; #X connect 9 0 8 1; #X connect 10 0 9 0; #X connect 11 0 15 1; #X connect 12 0 14 0; #X connect 13 0 14 0; #X connect 14 0 7 0; #X connect 14 0 15 0; #X connect 16 0 14 0; #X connect 17 0 14 0; #X connect 18 0 9 0; #X connect 19 0 14 0; #X connect 20 0 2 0; #X connect 21 0 2 0; #X connect 22 0 2 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fontsizes
Regarding the fix, which was mentioned here: I checked, whether there is something on the svn of pd-overlay for gentoo-linux...nothing. And: What version of pd was patched with this fix? Regarding you posting: The "or others" is the thing, which gives me headaches... ;/ What do you suggest what I can do to fix the problem in a at least half efficient way? mcc Hans-Christoph Steiner [10-03-11 00:48]: > > I am guessing that you don't have the right font installed. Depending > on which version of Pd you are using, it could be Bitstream Vera Sans > Mono, DejaVu Sans Mono, or others. > > .hc > > On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:57 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > >I am on Linux... "recent build" means in case of overlays for Gentoo: > >Wait > > > >Best regards, > >mcc > > > > > >Jonathan Wilkes [10-03-10 17:32]: > >>In winxp: > >>Browser-- fine. Font menu, console buttons, iemgui properties > >>dialogue, > >>gatom properties dialogue, canvas dialogue, scalar dialogue buttons, > >>"Put" > >>menu array dialogue, find dialogue, "File" menu message-- still tiny. > >> > >>-Jonathan > >> > >>--- On Wed, 3/10/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> > >>>From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > >>>Subject: Re: [PD] Fontsizes > >>>To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > >>>Cc: pd-list@iem.at, meino.cra...@gmx.de > >>>Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 3:33 AM > >>> > >>>I think I fixed this recently, try a recent build. > >>> > >>>.hc > >>> > >>>On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > >>> > Same problem with small fonts on winxp with Pd version > >>>0.42.5-extended > 20100217 (audio menu, MIDI menu, properties dialogue, > >>>browser). > > -Jonathan > > --- On Sat, 2/27/10, meino.cra...@gmx.de > >>> > >>>wrote: > > >From: meino.cra...@gmx.de > >>> > >Subject: [PD] Fontsizes > >To: pd-list@iem.at > >Date: Saturday, February 27, 2010, 5:15 AM > > > >Hi, > > > >I am still unsure, whether I have installed > >>>puredata > >correctly... > >Being on Gentoo-Linux, which I periodically > >>>update, I use a > >so > >called overlay especially made for gentoo to > >>>install > >pd-extended. > > > >When I start pd, the initial dialog (that one with > >>>the > >console) came > >up with a microscopic font size. > > > >Loading any patch also results in dialog, which > >>>came up > >with that > >too small font. Now I am able to change it to a > >>>bigger > >size, which > >often mess up the laout of that patch. > > > >I tried to set the font size globally in > >>>~/.pdsettings, > >which does not > >work, though pd repports in "startup flags" my > >>>setting. I > >also > >can set to that fontsize by hand. > > > >When starting pd from the command line it > >>>reports: > >Pd version 0.41-4extended > >compiled 14:14:02 Feb 21 2010 > >port 5401 > >TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd/tcl/library" > >TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd/tk/library" > > > >"/usr/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui" 5401 > >Waiting for connection request... > >... connected > > > >Is there any way to increase the complete > >>>pd-display by a > >factor to > >make things readable? > > > >Any othe hint? > > > >Thank you very much in advance for any help! :) > > > >Have a nice weekend! > >Best regards, > >mcc > > > >-- > >Please don't send me any Word- or > >>>Powerpoint-Attachments > >unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply > >>>Text. > >See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > >In a world without fences and walls nobody needs > >>>gates and > >windows. > > > > > >___ > >Pd-list@iem.at > >mailing list > >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at > >>>mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>There is no way to peace, peace is the way. > >>> -A.J. Muste > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >-- > >Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments > >unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. > >See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > >In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. > > > > > >___ > >Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > http://at.or.at/hans/ > > > > __
Re: [PD] Fontsizes
I am on Linux... "recent build" means in case of overlays for Gentoo: Wait Best regards, mcc Jonathan Wilkes [10-03-10 17:32]: > In winxp: > Browser-- fine. Font menu, console buttons, iemgui properties dialogue, > gatom properties dialogue, canvas dialogue, scalar dialogue buttons, "Put" > menu array dialogue, find dialogue, "File" menu message-- still tiny. > > -Jonathan > > --- On Wed, 3/10/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > > Subject: Re: [PD] Fontsizes > > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > > Cc: pd-list@iem.at, meino.cra...@gmx.de > > Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 3:33 AM > > > > I think I fixed this recently, try a recent build. > > > > .hc > > > > On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > > > > Same problem with small fonts on winxp with Pd version > > 0.42.5-extended > > > 20100217 (audio menu, MIDI menu, properties dialogue, > > browser). > > > > > > -Jonathan > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/27/10, meino.cra...@gmx.de > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> From: meino.cra...@gmx.de > > > > >> Subject: [PD] Fontsizes > > >> To: pd-list@iem.at > > >> Date: Saturday, February 27, 2010, 5:15 AM > > >> > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> I am still unsure, whether I have installed > > puredata > > >> correctly... > > >> Being on Gentoo-Linux, which I periodically > > update, I use a > > >> so > > >> called overlay especially made for gentoo to > > install > > >> pd-extended. > > >> > > >> When I start pd, the initial dialog (that one with > > the > > >> console) came > > >> up with a microscopic font size. > > >> > > >> Loading any patch also results in dialog, which > > came up > > >> with that > > >> too small font. Now I am able to change it to a > > bigger > > >> size, which > > >> often mess up the laout of that patch. > > >> > > >> I tried to set the font size globally in > > ~/.pdsettings, > > >> which does not > > >> work, though pd repports in "startup flags" my > > setting. I > > >> also > > >> can set to that fontsize by hand. > > >> > > >> When starting pd from the command line it > > reports: > > >> Pd version 0.41-4extended > > >> compiled 14:14:02 Feb 21 2010 > > >> port 5401 > > >> TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd/tcl/library" > > >> TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd/tk/library" > > >> > > >> "/usr/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui" 5401 > > >> Waiting for connection request... > > >> ... connected > > >> > > >> Is there any way to increase the complete > > pd-display by a > > >> factor to > > >> make things readable? > > >> > > >> Any othe hint? > > >> > > >> Thank you very much in advance for any help! :) > > >> > > >> Have a nice weekend! > > >> Best regards, > > >> mcc > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Please don't send me any Word- or > > Powerpoint-Attachments > > >> unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply > > Text. > > >> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > >> In a world without fences and walls nobody needs > > gates and > > >> windows. > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> Pd-list@iem.at > > >> mailing list > > >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Pd-list@iem.at > > mailing list > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no way to peace, peace is the way. > > -A.J. Muste > > > > > > > > > > -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fontsizes
Hi hc, I am using Gentoo-Linux, where pd-extended is available as overlay only. So I tzhink, I have to patch these overlay's sources to get the inprovement you made (THANKS!:) >From your point of view: What is the best way for me to update the overlay for Gentoo (and not to wait for others to do so...;) ? Best regards, mcc Hans-Christoph Steiner [10-03-10 03:44]: > > I think I fixed this recently, try a recent build. > > .hc > > On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > >Same problem with small fonts on winxp with Pd version 0.42.5-extended > >20100217 (audio menu, MIDI menu, properties dialogue, browser). > > > >-Jonathan > > > >--- On Sat, 2/27/10, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > >>From: meino.cra...@gmx.de > >>Subject: [PD] Fontsizes > >>To: pd-list@iem.at > >>Date: Saturday, February 27, 2010, 5:15 AM > >> > >>Hi, > >> > >>I am still unsure, whether I have installed puredata > >>correctly... > >>Being on Gentoo-Linux, which I periodically update, I use a > >>so > >>called overlay especially made for gentoo to install > >>pd-extended. > >> > >>When I start pd, the initial dialog (that one with the > >>console) came > >>up with a microscopic font size. > >> > >>Loading any patch also results in dialog, which came up > >>with that > >>too small font. Now I am able to change it to a bigger > >>size, which > >>often mess up the laout of that patch. > >> > >>I tried to set the font size globally in ~/.pdsettings, > >>which does not > >>work, though pd repports in "startup flags" my setting. I > >>also > >>can set to that fontsize by hand. > >> > >>When starting pd from the command line it reports: > >>Pd version 0.41-4extended > >>compiled 14:14:02 Feb 21 2010 > >>port 5401 > >>TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd/tcl/library" > >>TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd/tk/library" > >> > >>"/usr/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui" 5401 > >>Waiting for connection request... > >>... connected > >> > >>Is there any way to increase the complete pd-display by a > >>factor to > >>make things readable? > >> > >>Any othe hint? > >> > >>Thank you very much in advance for any help! :) > >> > >>Have a nice weekend! > >>Best regards, > >>mcc > >> > >>-- > >>Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments > >>unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. > >>See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > >>In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and > >>windows. > >> > >> > >>___ > >>Pd-list@iem.at > >>mailing list > >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > >Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste > -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] analysis before synthesis: How?
Hi William,
no, unfortunately no theremin...I fear, it is not even a synthesizer
sound but of "natural" origin...
Am I "lost in synthesis" ?
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William Brent [10-03-07 16:08]:
> If the scifi-sound is a theremin, there's a good chance that you could
> have decent success using sigmund~ to follow spectral peaks over a
> certain volume, and resynthesize by sending the frequency/amplitude
> information to a bank of oscillators. It'll help to know something
> about how spectral analysis works to find the best values for window
> size and hop, but sigmund~ makes things as easy as possible.
>
> The other option that might be worth a shot is Audacity's "Noise
> Removal" effect. You select a region of the file that is just noise
> to train it, then process the noise removal. From the few times I've
> used it, I've gotten results ranging from laughable to passable. It
> completely depends on the nature of the signal and noise components
> you're dealing with.
>
>
> Good luck,
> William
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:50 AM, wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > this is more a general question:
> > I have a "piece of sound" (sorry, English is not my mothers tonque...)
> > which conatins beside background noise a scifi-sound, which I want to
> > synthezise ("synthesise"?) with puredata as close to the original as
> > possible -- without the background.
> >
> > Now I am looking for recipe to do such a thing -- without the need of
> > a supercomputer and without the deep deep knowledge of really deep
> > math.
> >
> > Is there a way to supress the backgroudn as much as possible?
> > Would it be make sense to make a fourier analysis with a tool (what
> > tool -- I am using puredata on Gentoo-Linux)? Are there others
> > tool, which would help me to solve this task?
> >
> > Any idea and help are very appreciated -- thanks a lot in advance!
> >
> > best regards and have a nice sunday!
> > mcc
> >
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[PD] analysis before synthesis: How?
Hi,
this is more a general question:
I have a "piece of sound" (sorry, English is not my mothers tonque...)
which conatins beside background noise a scifi-sound, which I want to
synthezise ("synthesise"?) with puredata as close to the original as
possible -- without the background.
Now I am looking for recipe to do such a thing -- without the need of
a supercomputer and without the deep deep knowledge of really deep
math.
Is there a way to supress the backgroudn as much as possible?
Would it be make sense to make a fourier analysis with a tool (what
tool -- I am using puredata on Gentoo-Linux)? Are there others
tool, which would help me to solve this task?
Any idea and help are very appreciated -- thanks a lot in advance!
best regards and have a nice sunday!
mcc
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Re: [PD] To pack or not to be packed that is the question ! (?)
I removed the [t b f] from the frist slider and connected it to the hot inlet of [pack] directly. But no change...the first sliders seems to know "on off" only. Patch attached Keep hacking! mcc Derek Holzer [10-03-03 20:08]: > The [pack] object and the [trigger] object should be separate. First > create this: > > [pack 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0] > > then each number box should look like this: > > [0] > | > [t b f] > > where the "f" outlet is connected to the corresponding inlet in [pack], > and the "b" outlet is connected to the first, "hot" inlet of [pack]. > > [pack] only gives output when the "hot" inlet has input, so the "bang" > message sent after the "float" triggers it and gives output no matter > which number box you change. > > Read more about "hot" and "cold" in the HTML manual or in the FLOSS > Manual for details. Or see attached patch. > > Best! > Derek > > > On 3/3/10 7:43 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > >Hi, > > > > I made a [pack t b f f f f f f f f f f ] > > And connect ten vertical sliders to inlet 2-10 (1-based). > > > > Then I connected the outlet of the [pack] to > > a message box with the following contents: > > > > [wave1 sinesum $1 $2 $3 $4 $5 $6 $7 $8 $9 $10] > > > > I added a tabread4-mimic and could display the wave in an array > > visually. > > > > So nice so mysterious ( at least for me ;) ) > > > > Slider 1 to slider 8 are working as exspected, moving slider > > nine and ten results in nothing but the pure sound of silence > > (visually spoken...). > > > > For what I read about [pack] the inlets sequence follows > > the arguments or in my case inlet #2 up to #10 are exspecting > > float arguments, which are given by the vsliders. > > > > A [BANG] at inlet #2 send a bang into the pack. > > > > But the reason, why slider #9 and slider #10 are on holidays > > is not very obvious to me. > > > > The aim of all this should be a wave, which reacts on changes of > >each > > of the sliders instantly without sending an extra bang. > > And I want to have all slider (better: much more than ten) working. > > And if there is a way to normalize the result instantly I would > > one step nearer to eternity ; > > > > I know, that there are obviously far better and total different ways > > to accomplish what I want to acchieve, but for the first I only > > want to understand, why this beast is only running on eight instead > > of ten legs (my be a spider therefore... ;) > > > > Thanks a lot for any help in advance! > > Best regards > > mcc > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: > ---Oblique Strategy # 19: > "Be dirty" > #N canvas 249 81 755 492 10; > #X floatatom 44 142 5 0 0 0 - - -; > #X floatatom 86 142 5 0 0 0 - - -; > #X floatatom 44 203 5 0 0 0 - - -; > #X obj 44 174 +; > #X text 41 117 "hot"; > #X text 81 117 "cold"; > #X floatatom 144 142 5 0 0 0 - - -; > #X floatatom 186 142 5 0 0 0 - - -; > #X floatatom 144 243 5 0 0 0 - - -; > #X obj 144 214 +; > #X text 141 117 "hot"; > #X text 181 117 "cold"; > #X obj 186 169 trigger bang float; > #X obj 45 343 trigger bang float; > #X text 44 374 can be abbreviated with; > #X obj 46 405 t b f; > #X text 332 301 [trigger] can send an arbitrary number of things out: > ; > #X obj 335 343 trigger bang float anything bang bang float bang float > ; > #X obj 336 405 t b f a b b f b f; > #X text 335 374 or:; > #X text 174 452 de...@umatic.nl; > #X text 330 167 [trigger] outputs according to its creation arguments > in right to left order. In this case \, when it receives input \, it > will first send out a "float" (i.e. a floating point number) from its > right outlet \, then it will send a "bang" out its left outlet.; > #X text 26 20 The object [trigger] can be used to change the order > of operations in a patch by sending a message "bang" to the "hot" inlet > of an object. "Bang" means "do it now!" \, and will cause the object > to output.; > #X connect 0 0 3 0; > #X connect 1 0 3 1; > #X connect 3 0 2 0; > #X connect 6 0 9 0; > #X connect 7 0 12 0; > #X connect 9 0 8 0; > #X connect 12 0 9 0; > #X connect 12 1 9 1; > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. #N canvas 617 28 961 863 24; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 (subpatch) 0; #X array wave1 4 float 1; #A 0 -1.87937e-05 0 1.87937e-05 3.75873e-05; #X coords 0 1 3 -1 200 140 1; #X restore 47 664 graph; #X obj 458 835 dac~; #X obj 458 694 metro 200; #X msg 80 515 \; wave1 normalize 1; #X obj 603 572 hsl 128 15 0 127 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -8 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 1400 1; #X obj 600 603 mtof~; #X obj 600 647 phasor~; #X obj 601 696 *~ 2051; #X obj 458 7
[PD] To pack or not to be packed that is the question ! (?)
Hi, I made a [pack t b f f f f f f f f f f ] And connect ten vertical sliders to inlet 2-10 (1-based). Then I connected the outlet of the [pack] to a message box with the following contents: [wave1 sinesum $1 $2 $3 $4 $5 $6 $7 $8 $9 $10] I added a tabread4-mimic and could display the wave in an array visually. So nice so mysterious ( at least for me ;) ) Slider 1 to slider 8 are working as exspected, moving slider nine and ten results in nothing but the pure sound of silence (visually spoken...). For what I read about [pack] the inlets sequence follows the arguments or in my case inlet #2 up to #10 are exspecting float arguments, which are given by the vsliders. A [BANG] at inlet #2 send a bang into the pack. But the reason, why slider #9 and slider #10 are on holidays is not very obvious to me. The aim of all this should be a wave, which reacts on changes of each of the sliders instantly without sending an extra bang. And I want to have all slider (better: much more than ten) working. And if there is a way to normalize the result instantly I would one step nearer to eternity ; I know, that there are obviously far better and total different ways to accomplish what I want to acchieve, but for the first I only want to understand, why this beast is only running on eight instead of ten legs (my be a spider therefore... ;) Thanks a lot for any help in advance! Best regards mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] wave generation questions
Hi, I am playing around with examples of the FLOSS manual. Currently I am sending messages like sinesum to an array, which then is read by tabread4~ and send to an dac~. To make this setup a little more convenient I am looking for some simplifications: 1: Currently I have to enter edit mode to change the parameter list after "sinesum". Is it possible to do this in non-edit mode somehow? 2: Each time I edit the parameterlist and set the array afterwards, I have to send an "normalize 1"-message to normalize the amplitude to "1" max. Is it possible to automate this? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Fontsizes
Hi, I am still unsure, whether I have installed puredata correctly... Being on Gentoo-Linux, which I periodically update, I use a so called overlay especially made for gentoo to install pd-extended. When I start pd, the initial dialog (that one with the console) came up with a microscopic font size. Loading any patch also results in dialog, which came up with that too small font. Now I am able to change it to a bigger size, which often mess up the laout of that patch. I tried to set the font size globally in ~/.pdsettings, which does not work, though pd repports in "startup flags" my setting. I also can set to that fontsize by hand. When starting pd from the command line it reports: Pd version 0.41-4extended compiled 14:14:02 Feb 21 2010 port 5401 TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd/tcl/library" TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd/tk/library" "/usr/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui" 5401 Waiting for connection request... ... connected Is there any way to increase the complete pd-display by a factor to make things readable? Any othe hint? Thank you very much in advance for any help! :) Have a nice weekend! Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Drawing a sound volume
Hi, I want to control the sound volume of a couple of [osc~]'s and I want to draw it. I saw a "synth" (example/demo) where the amplitude of a wave was draw with the mouse in a little "scope" and I am curious to know whether is possible for regulating two hand full of osc? Kind regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Fontsize of all non-pd windows
Hi, how can I change the fontsize off all window, which do not contain patches (i.e. help browser, console etc...)? When starting pd form the commandline, it prints TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd/tcl/library" TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd/tk/library" "/usr/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui" 5400 Waiting for connection request... ... connected tk scaling is 1.5549433731251912 I dont know, whether the tk scaling has something to do with font sizes ?!?!? Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] is rsynced stuff equal to svn'ed stuff?
Hans-Christoph Steiner [10-02-20 17:36]: > > On Feb 20, 2010, at 7:50 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >Here:http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource > > > >I found this: > > > >svn checkout --ignore-externals > >https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk > >pd-extended > >cd pd-extended > >rm -rf pd > >svn checkout --ignore-externals > >https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.42/pd > >svn checkout > >https://pd-gem.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pd-gem/branches/0.92/Gem > > > >which have to be done on "svn sourced between releases". > > > >I rsynced the stuff to my harddisc as described above the cited > >paragraph. > > I updated GettingPdSource based on your feedback. I'm not quite clear > which paragraph you are referencing. rsyncing looks like this, and > it'll download everything you need to build: > > rsync -av --delete rsync://128.238.56.50/distros/pd-extended/ > pd-extended/ > > >Do I have to do what is sayed of the "svn stuff between the releases" > >or not? > > No, its either rsync or svn. Once you've run rsync, you can use either > rsync or svn to update that tree. > > >And what is the directory from where I have to submit the commands? > > It will create a folder called 'pd-extended', so run those commands > wherever you want that folder to be. > > .hc > > > > > > > As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be > glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and > this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin > Next couple of problems What I did so far: I did a rsync -av --delete rsync://128.238.56.50/distros/pd-extended/ pd-extended/ and cd to pd-extended/packages/linux-make I exported DESTDIR and set it to a public writable directory. I sub,mit the command script buildlog.txt to get a log of the build process. Finally I did a make install and after a while the compilation broke with: (lots of lines above this---) doc install succeeded! make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mccramer/data/PD2/pd-extended/doc' cd /home/mccramer/data/PD2/pd-extended/Gem/src && ./configure \ --without-ffmpeg --with-pd=/home/mccramer/data/PD2/pd-extended/pd --disable-NV configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --without-ffmpeg, --disable-NV checking for Base/configLinux.h.in... yes checking for g++... g++ checking for C++ compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C++ compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether ln -s works... yes checking whether compiler accepts "-fPIC"... yes building Gem with Controls-objects building Gem with Geos-objects building Gem with Manips-objects building Gem with Nongeos-objects building Gem with Particles-objects building Gem with Pixes-objects building Gem with openGL-objects building Gem without Vertex-objects checking for sin in -lm... yes checking for main in -lz... yes checking for dlopen in -ldl... yes checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E checking for X... libraries , headers checking for gethostbyname... yes checking for connect... yes checking for remove... yes checking for shmat... yes checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes checking for main in -lX11... yes checking for main in -lXext... yes checking for XF86VidModeGetAllModeLines in -lXxf86vm... yes checking for main in -lXext... (cached) yes checking for "OpenGL"-framework... no checking for glInitNames in -lGL... yes checking for gluLookAt in -lGLU... yes checking for "AGL"-framework... no checking for main in -lstdc++... yes checking for "Carbon"-framework... no checking for "QuickTime"-framework... no checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes checking for PKG_IMAGEMAGICK___CFLAGS... -fopenmp -I/usr/include/ImageMagick checking for PKG_IMAGEMAGICK___LIBS... -lMagick++ -lMagickCore checking for PKG_GMERLIN_AVDEC_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_GMERLIN_AVDEC_LIBS... checking for gmerlin_avdec-config... no checking for gavl_start in -lgmerlin_avdec... no checking for PKG_LIBQUICKTIME_CFLAGS... -I/usr/include/lqt checking for PKG_LIBQUICKTIME_LIBS... -lquicktime -lpthread -lm -lz -ldl checking for PKG_LQT_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_LQT_LIBS... checking for lqt-config... yes checking for PKG_LIBMPEG3_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_LIBMPEG3_LIBS... checking for libmpeg3-config... no checking for mpeg3_check_sig in -lmpeg3... yes checking for PKG_MPEG_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_MPEG_LIBS... checking for mpeg-config... no checking for OpenMPEG in -lmpeg... no checking for
Re: [PD] is rsynced stuff equal to svn'ed stuff?
> > Please use Reply All to keep this on the list. > This is a test mail. I am using mutt as mailer. I pressed "r" to reply and answered "Yes" to "reply to mailing-list" as I did in previous answers to the puredata mailing list. If this mail again is not posted to the list...I have to search for a bug in my compilation of mutt... Thanks your help and understanding in advance. mcc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] is rsynced stuff equal to svn'ed stuff?
Hi, Here:http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource I found this: svn checkout --ignore-externals https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk pd-extended cd pd-extended rm -rf pd svn checkout --ignore-externals https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.42/pd svn checkout https://pd-gem.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pd-gem/branches/0.92/Gem which have to be done on "svn sourced between releases". I rsynced the stuff to my harddisc as described above the cited paragraph. Do I have to do what is sayed of the "svn stuff between the releases" or not? And what is the directory from where I have to submit the commands? -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] applying patches
Hi, I trying to compile pd-extended on my Linux (mostly Gentoo). I wnat ot to doit from source. In the instruction I found this sentence: "If you don't already have the Pd sources, then read GettingPdSource. Once you have all of the sources and the patches are applied, you can start compiling." I got the sources from svn. Now I am looking for instruction how to apply the patches. ? Kind regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd vanilla "vs." pd extended
Hi, (I am using puredata on Linux only) I am always trying to compile the applications and system tools for my Linux system myself. This way I am only installing things, which are at least interface compatible with the rest ... but this may be or may be not a spleen ... only my two cent... There are no problems to compile puredata vanilla on my box, but the compile process of pd extended breaks. I would like to try to compile this tiger step by step and not according to the "all or nothing"-principle. For example I am not inerested in video processing with pd... Is there a way to compile pd extended with a selected subset of extension without going into deep-hack-mode by rewriting makefiles? How can this be achieved? Thank you very much for any hint, advice and help in advance! Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Recording ... ?
Hi, Currently I am doing my very first steps with vanilla pd. One question (beside the other thousands of her sisters...;) ) is: How can I record the sounds while I am listening to them to a file...may be by simultanously converting them into the ogg format...? Thank you very much for helping a newbie to say "Aaaah!" in advance! :) Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Virtual keyboard
Hi, (I am using a recent version of Gentoo-Linux) ...again a very newbish question: Since I have no midi-hardware I like to know whether there is some "software-keyboard" which sends midi signals and which I can connect to PureData? And -- if yes -- how can I connect it to PureData? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Have a nice weekend! Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] How-to compile the extended version of PD?
Hi, Where can I find a how-to/tutorial for compiling the extended version of puredata on Linux? Thank you very much in advance fpr any help! Have a nice day! Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Installing PD on Linux: Addons? Colors? Interface?
Hi, Happy New Year ! :) this is my first post to this list and I am also right at the beginning to explore PureData. I want to use PureData as a synthesizer for sounds and I will not use the midi interface, since I have no keyboard... I am using a up-to-date Gentoo-Linux with linux kernel 2.6.31.11. . As a starting point I compiled and installed the vanilla-version of PureData on the system manually and it "works" (read: I was able to get a sine wave sound via alsa). So far so nice! :) The interface is pure black and white. But on the net I saw wonderful colored snapshots of the interface. Have I forgotten to install something extra, an addon for example, a plugin or...? Thank you very much for any help in advance! Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
