[PD] (linux) libraries loading problem
Hi all. I'm new to pd (and linux) and this is my 1st post here so forgive me if this is a dumb question. I just installed pd-0.39.3-extended on ubuntustudio (v7.04, updated). Everything went fine except none of my libraries loads on startup. I also installed the following packages: build-essential / tcl8.4-dev / cdbs / tk8.4-dev / libasound2-dev / debhelper / libjack0.100.0-dev / x-windows... I triple checked the doc, my default.pdsettings, my path and startup in pd... I always get the same error: "tried... and failed. Can't load library". I must be missing something really obvious here but I'm stuck... Thanx for your help. _y ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] (linux) libraries loading problem
I figured it out while I was answering you... I was adding a "/" before libraries name and somehow misread error messages! Now everything works fine. I'd just like to understand this though: I still have strange errors when loading libraries (example with cyclone): "tried /home/gusano/cyclone.pd_linux and failed tried /home/gusano/pd-gusano/cyclone.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra//cyclone/cyclone.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra//freeverb/cyclone.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/cyclone.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/freeverb/cyclone.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/cyclone.pd_linux and failed tried /home/gusano/cyclone/cyclone.pd_linux and failed tried /home/gusano/pd-gusano/cyclone/cyclone.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra//cyclone/cyclone/cyclone.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra//freeverb/cyclone/cyclone.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/cyclone/cyclone.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/freeverb/cyclone/cyclone.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/cyclone.pd_linux and failed tried /home/gusano/cyclone/cyclone-meta.pd and failed tried /home/gusano/pd-gusano/cyclone/cyclone-meta.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra//cyclone/cyclone/cyclone-meta.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra//freeverb/cyclone/cyclone-meta.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/cyclone/cyclone-meta.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/freeverb/cyclone/cyclone-meta.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/cyclone-meta.pd and succeeded Added to search path: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/cyclone Added to help path: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/cyclone Added to help path: /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cyclone Loaded libdir cyclone from /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/cyclone" is that normal ? Thanx. _y ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Notch filter
Hello all ! I'd like to make a 2pole notch filter. I found a few topics about notch filters on this list but I didn't understand everything. I read that I could make one with biquad~ but this object is somehow obscure to me. I don't know how to deal with the 5 parameters. In maxmsp, you have the filtergraph~ object which "translates" your Freq, Q and so on for use with biquad~ but in pd I just don't get it... The filtergraph pd objects are also difficult for me to understand. Could someone explain me how I can make a notch with biquad~ (or with any other native pd objects) please ? Thanks. _y ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Notch filter
Thanx for your prompt answer Claude. I've read this on Puckette's book and other stuffs on the web, but my problem is how to implement those equations in pd's world ? Sorry if this sounds stupid... Best. _y ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Add Path problems
>> Second question:I think it's possible to load a path with a message in >> a patch but also don't know how to do it! >> > > [declare] (part of pd) > [import] (part of hcs) > I think that [declare] came with pd-0.4 so it won't work for Delphine as she has pd-0.39 (until the tomorrow-windows-build ? =) [import] should work fine though. You also have the other trick i.e. put your folder name in object name (when folder is already in your pd path): [rradical/rrad.filt~]. This can be boring... or handy (when sharing a patch with subfolders). HTH _yvan ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pc mac sharing netsend and netreceive
nick burge wrote: Hello list, does anyone have experience of sharing data between pc and mac using the netsend netreceive objects or perhaps OSC? Is extra software necessary for example? Scenario: I want to share the data coming off an arduino with my colleague who runs a Macintosh whilst I run a Windows Vista PC. (Since we will be side by side on the stage we could use a LAN cable connection) Hi. Can't tell you much about netsend/netreceive but we used to do this between a mac (os x) and a pc (xp) using OSC and udpsend/udpreceive (from mrpeach) and it was rock-solid! We used LAN or wireless, sending and receiving lots of datas, never had any problem. HTH Ciao ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] data structure unclickable
Hi list. Is there any way to make an array in a data structure *not* responding to clicks ? Cheers. _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] data structure unclickable
It would be nice indeed. Another nice thing would be to be able to change plot parameters on the fly, like [plot myarray 900 1 10 15 h] where h is x-spacing. I apologize if it's already possible but I couldn't manage that. The only workaround that I found is to script cut and create new plot but it's not a handsome style... Cheers Yvan On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Miller Puckette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think there's any way, but there should be. Another one for the > (growing) dolist... > > cheers > Miller > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] multislider again (was: data structure unclickable)
Hi. Here is (another) multislider made with data structures. It was tricky for me as I only learnt DS a few days ago... so there may be weird things in this patch. I was looking for a multislider that respond to clicks outside sliders and to horizontal dragging. I was obliged to use [ivnt] from iemgui in order to get mouse coordinates and move DS, but as DS always respond to mouse clicks, if one clicks near the "mouse area" of DS, horizontal dragging stops working and the expected list (id/value) does not come out... Hope it makes sense... Another thing, changing multislider size is done via scripting, and this outputs lots of errors in PD windows (due to scripting in structures (??)). It also crashes PD on my Mac (PD-vanilla 0.41.4) but kind of works on linux (PD-extended 0.40.3RC3). I also tried to name arrays with $0 in order to use multiple instances of this patch but I couldn't. This didn't work and I had many errors (especially with [element] object...). Here is the patch + help. If anyone is willing to have a look and give me advices, it would be much appreciated. Cheers. _Yvan yv.multislider.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pix_motion_sector on linux
hallo ! I stumbled upon this thread http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg34546.html and I'm wondering if it could be possible to build pix_motion_sector on linux ? the Makefile is osx only (and I'm a n00b and dunno which gcc flags should replace xcode ones etc). cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_motion_sector on linux
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: > that would be a nice linux addition > well I found another archive with a proper README, copied pix_motion_sector.h and pix_motion_sector.cpp in Gem/src/pixes and built gem. it built fine, but now when launching pd (with the new Gem.pd_linux) I get: ./Gem.pd_linux: undefined symbol: _ZN3gem3RTE5Array4sizeEv Gem: can't load library any idea ? cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] grdflow v4l2 error
hello just built gridflow on maverick. ./configure tells me: libv4l1 ---> found libv4l2 ---> found etc (everything except osx related is found), it builds fine, but if try the examples, opening [#camera], selecting libv4l2 and then my video device (video0) gives me this error: error: [#io.v4l2 in /dev/video0 1]: this [#io.v4l2] wasn't compiled with libv4l2 support #io.v4l2 in /dev/video0 1 ... couldn't create print: symbol v4l2 error: [gf/not_open]: not open if I choose ...v4l2 I get: error: ioctl VIDIOC_G_FREQUENCY: Invalid argument I get the same errors with both pd-extended 0.42.5 and latest pd from git. thanks for your help, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error
On 12/22/10, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > > [#io.v4l2] does not work in any way, therefore I didn't bother enabling > libv4l2 at all. To use v4l2, you go through libv4l1 instead, which does > v4l1/v4l2 conversion. > > I added [#io.v4l2] in [#camera] because I was going to work on it, but > when I decided not to, I didn't remove it before the release(s), which is > misleading. ah yes, v4l1 works fine. thanks for your amazing work ! _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > BTW, if you use the one called just "v4l1" in [#camera], it doesn't do the > v4l1/v4l2 conversion, so it will work only with v4l1 drivers. That's why > there is the "libv4l1" option (well, it's also because it does all the color > conversions that we don't want to bother supporting...) > mmh, I updated to maverick (2.6.25-24-generic) and it looks like it was a bad idea.. any gridflow patch just freezes my os now :/ I don't have any special verbose output (it seems), just after opening any patch from the examples I loose the mouse/keys and have to force reboot. any hints much appreciated (thinkpad w500 - core 2 duo) _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Thu, 23 Dec 2010, Yvan Volochine wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Mathieu Bouchard >> wrote: >> mmh, I updated to maverick (2.6.25-24-generic) and it looks like it was a >> bad idea.. >> any gridflow patch just freezes my os now :/ >> > > Any, or just when you try to get a frame from [#camera] ? > any patch (just by opening them) then I can't kill pd because my keyboard is also lost.. > I do get a lot of freezes from [#camera], but that's because of the pwc.ko > driver (for the Philips protocol). As far as I can tell, the Linux kernel > has been shipping with a bad version of pwc for a while. But it doesn't > freeze the OS, it just means I have to unload and reload the driver quite > often, and kill Pd (Ctrl+c in the terminal works, but Ctrl+q in the pd-gui > doesn't). I should reinstall a non-bundled version of pwc.ko like I used to > have (I think I recall it made a difference). > > What's your situation ? (camera driver, if that's an issue...) sorry but how do I find out my camera driver ? I use a Sony Eye usb cam (from ps3). cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Thu, 23 Dec 2010, Yvan Volochine wrote: > > any patch (just by opening them) >> > > even hello-world.pd ? > yep (but this one crashes after a couple of secs) > What if you create a new patch and put some GridFlow objects in it ? > for some it works (like #window #rotate) but it seems inconsistent it's not on my machine so I have to go back and forth to make further tests and I can't make as much as I'd like.. I use a Sony Eye usb cam (from ps3). > If your freeze is not related to [#camera], in the end, it does not matter. > > BTW, several other people reported that the PS3eye didn't work with > GridFlow. Did it really work for you ? yes, we also have an old asus here, PS3 eye works fine with gridflow on it BTW the same kernel on the old machine works fine it seems related to the FireGL, which is a pity if it's the case... unfortunately I don't have much ideas to try... thanks again, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > mmh, I updated to maverick (2.6.25-24-generic) and it looks like it > > Hm.. How is this version string '2.6.25-24-generic' related to (Ubuntu) > maverick? I'm using Ubuntu Lucid and it ships with a 2.6.32-26-generic > linux kernel. > sorry typo (was late). it's 2.6.35-24 _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_opencv pdp_opencv segfault
thanks for your prompt answers. we updated to maverick and installed pd-extended and opencv (deb packages). we now have a segfault with Gem (closing gemwin) and gridflow crashes the OS (see "grdflow v4l2" thread). it appears that the issue is related to fglrx driver and ATI video card because the same setup on an old asus a6g works fine. the machine is a thinkpad w500 (core 2 duo, ATI FireGL 5200, 2.6.35-24-generic). the weird thing is that all openGL tests seem to work fine (fgl_glxgears, glxgears, etc) but I'm not a specialist.. cheers, _yvan On 12/22/10, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: > ola, > > yes, lluis might be right, > but could you be more precise > on which example gives you the crash? > > we also fixed a few more things > in more recent version ( for lucid or maverick ), > so maybe you can try to upgrade too, > unfortunately the binary packages are only for 32bits ( i386 ), > but otherwise just compile it. > > salut!, > sevy > > lluis gomez i bigorda wrote: >> Al 21/12/10 20:20, En/na manecante ha escrit: >> >> >>> I have this segmentation fault with both pd-0.42.5 and latest git >>> (0.43.0test3). >>> I use latest opencv libs, Gem -r 3574, latest svn for pdp, pdp_opencv >>> and pix_opencv (all of those built fine). >>> I am on Karmic. >>> >> >> can you try with the binary packages :: http://artefacte.org/pdopencv/ >> >> this one >> pdopencv-0.2.01-20100211-karmic-i386.deb >> >> used to work for me in karmik ... >> >> >> (I think there were some changes on libcv since there) >> >> salut, >> ll. >> >> >>> thanks for any hints, >>> >>> delphine >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > Hey, that one only produces one frame, and does so at [loadbang] time. > So, it's especially weird. > > You could try patches that don't use any window at all... lots of > help-patches are like that. > > > for some it works (like #window >> > > What do you mean "it works"... is anything being sent to [#window] ? > Inside of [#window] there's a [#out window], inside of which there's a > [#io.x11] (or other), isn't it ? So it should be the same as a plain [#out > window]. sorry but this kernel and fglrx version are not usable unfortunately. now Gem also crashes badly (deb and src). I'm trying another distro and I'll report back here. I forgot ATI cards were such a PITA in linux... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_opencv pdp_opencv segfault
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:21 PM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: > we also fixed a few more things > in more recent version ( for lucid or maverick ), > so maybe you can try to upgrade too, > unfortunately the binary packages are only for 32bits ( i386 ), > but otherwise just compile it. > opencv pkg seems to run fine with lucid =) IIRC I just had to build pix_opencv against libvm.so.4 thanks, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error
geez, finally all seem to be fine. this time on lucid 2.6.32-27-generic, gridflow is running (and ps3-eye as well =) cheers ! _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [pool] build fails on linux
hi, trying to build pool from latest svn (and latest pd git) I get this error: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/delf/dev/pool/source' /bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=link g++ -O2 -I/usr/local/include/flext -I/home/delf/dev/pure-data/src -no-undefined -module -shrext .pd_linux -avoid-version -L/usr/local/lib -lpd -lflext-pd_s-o pool.la -rpath /usr/local/lib pool_la-main.lo pool_la-pool.lo pool_la-data.lo libtool: link: g++ -shared -nostdlib /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/crti.o /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/crtbeginS.o .libs/pool_la-main.o .libs/pool_la-pool.o .libs/pool_la-data.o -L/usr/local/lib -lpd -lflext-pd_s -L/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3 -L/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib -L/lib/../lib -L/usr/lib/../lib -L/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../.. -L/usr/lib/i486-linux-gnu -lstdc++ -lm -lc -lgcc_s /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/crtendS.o /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/crtn.o-Wl,-soname -Wl,pool.pd_linux -o .libs/pool.pd_linux /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpd collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [pool.la] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/delf/dev/pool/source' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 zsh: exit 2 make am I missing a path or something ? ./configure --with-sysdir=/PATH/TO/PD/SRC did find pd headers and all, now I have no idea about what is going wrong... any hint is much appreciated, cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [pool] build fails on linux
bump ? sorry but this is quite boring, I hope I don't miss the obvious :/ forgot to say that this error appears on lucid. ps: also sorry because it looks like my 1st message was a reply to a thread although it was not... (and this only on lists.puredata.info, weird..) cheers, _y On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Yvan Volochine wrote: > hi, > trying to build pool from latest svn (and latest pd git) I get this error: > > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/delf/dev/pool/source' > /bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=link g++ -O2 > -I/usr/local/include/flext -I/home/delf/dev/pure-data/src -no-undefined > -module -shrext .pd_linux -avoid-version -L/usr/local/lib -lpd > -lflext-pd_s-o pool.la -rpath /usr/local/lib pool_la-main.lo > pool_la-pool.lo pool_la-data.lo > libtool: link: g++ -shared -nostdlib > /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/crti.o > /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/crtbeginS.o .libs/pool_la-main.o > .libs/pool_la-pool.o .libs/pool_la-data.o -L/usr/local/lib -lpd > -lflext-pd_s -L/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3 > -L/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib -L/lib/../lib > -L/usr/lib/../lib -L/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../.. > -L/usr/lib/i486-linux-gnu -lstdc++ -lm -lc -lgcc_s > /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/crtendS.o > /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/crtn.o-Wl,-soname > -Wl,pool.pd_linux -o .libs/pool.pd_linux > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpd > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make[1]: *** [pool.la] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/delf/dev/pool/source' > make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > zsh: exit 2 make > > am I missing a path or something ? > ./configure --with-sysdir=/PATH/TO/PD/SRC did find pd headers and all, now > I have no idea about what is going wrong... > > any hint is much appreciated, > > cheers, > _y > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [pool] build fails on linux
hi the path to pd headers seems to be correct (./configure script does find g_canvas.h etc) m_pd.h is also there. unfortunately I'm not a Makefile expert at all.. cheers, _y 2011/1/27 András Murányi > Hello Yvan, > > i'm no compilation expert, (therefore) i would take a look if there is > indeed an m_pd.h at /PATH/TO/PD/SRC > If yes, the makefile might be broken, if not, you'll have to > set /PATH/TO/PD/SRC to whereever m_pd.h can be found. > Also, i think, the less complicated (which is, an absolute > path) /PATH/TO/PD/SRC, the more bulletproof. > > Andras > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Yvan Volochine wrote: > >> bump ? >> sorry but this is quite boring, I hope I don't miss the obvious :/ >> forgot to say that this error appears on lucid. >> >> ps: also sorry because it looks like my 1st message was a reply to a >> thread although it was not... (and this only on lists.puredata.info, >> weird..) >> >> cheers, >> _y >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Yvan Volochine wrote: >> >>> hi, >>> trying to build pool from latest svn (and latest pd git) I get this >>> error: >>> >>> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/delf/dev/pool/source' >>> /bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=link g++ -O2 >>> -I/usr/local/include/flext -I/home/delf/dev/pure-data/src -no-undefined >>> -module -shrext .pd_linux -avoid-version -L/usr/local/lib -lpd >>> -lflext-pd_s-o pool.la -rpath /usr/local/lib pool_la-main.lo >>> pool_la-pool.lo pool_la-data.lo >>> libtool: link: g++ -shared -nostdlib >>> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/crti.o >>> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/crtbeginS.o .libs/pool_la-main.o >>> .libs/pool_la-pool.o .libs/pool_la-data.o -L/usr/local/lib -lpd >>> -lflext-pd_s -L/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3 >>> -L/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib -L/lib/../lib >>> -L/usr/lib/../lib -L/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../.. >>> -L/usr/lib/i486-linux-gnu -lstdc++ -lm -lc -lgcc_s >>> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/crtendS.o >>> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/crtn.o-Wl,-soname >>> -Wl,pool.pd_linux -o .libs/pool.pd_linux >>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpd >>> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status >>> make[1]: *** [pool.la] Error 1 >>> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/delf/dev/pool/source' >>> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >>> zsh: exit 2 make >>> >>> am I missing a path or something ? >>> ./configure --with-sysdir=/PATH/TO/PD/SRC did find pd headers and all, >>> now I have no idea about what is going wrong... >>> >>> any hint is much appreciated, >>> >>> cheers, >>> _y >>> >> >> > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [pool] build fails on linux
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Pedro Lopes wrote: > > I recall that some old makefiles found in some externals had a sintax like: > >make pd_linux > instead of > >make > Thus they had multiple make targets inside, and if you type make it would > enter the wrong one (like Win) thanks to all for your hints. I finally made it =) for the sake of the archives, here are my steps and errors: I try by removing "pd" from pool_la_LDFLAGS in pool/source/Makefile (which might be something very stupid !) but somehow [pool] built fine. then using [pool] in pd gave me a "undefined symbol: _ZN17flext_root_singlenwEj" error, which lead me to this thread: http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/pipermail/flext/2010-September/000121.html with the correct way of building a flext external: (assuming pool and flext are in $HOME/dev) $ cd $HOME/dev/pool $ bash ../flext/build.sh pd gcc # bash ../flext/build.sh pd gcc install thanks ! _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [pool] build fails on linux
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Yvan Volochine wrote: > the correct way of building a flext external: > > (assuming pool and flext are in $HOME/dev) > > $ cd $HOME/dev/pool > $ bash ../flext/build.sh pd gcc > # bash ../flext/build.sh pd gcc install lesson learned: read the README until the end ! sorry for the noise... _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GUI toolkits and custom GUIs WAS: Integra Live 1.5 released
On 18/01/13 22:31, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It also depends on what you mean by "improve". I personally want Pd's GUI to look and act as native as possible on any given platform, and it turns out that Tk is one of the better GUI toolkits for doing that. I think that `supercollider` is a great example of (cross-platform) GUI-improvement with their switch to Qt. my 2 cents y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GUI toolkits and custom GUIs WAS: Integra Live 1.5 released
On 27/01/13 21:15, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: nova became supernova, and supernova is now an official alternative scsynth implementation for SC3 (it even comes with SC3, but afaik is not the default synth engine yet(?)) not yet, unless you have the following line in your startup file: Server.program = "/usr/local/bin/supernova"; cheers, y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi as rt guitar effect processor : proof of concept
On 27/01/13 17:00, Pierre Massat wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwJNeouLqgQ&feature=youtu.be Dear all, It's working !!! :) bravo =) y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] completion-plugin in pd-extended
hi Hans! I was wondering if you'd be willing to add completion-plugin[1] to pd-extended and if yes, what would be the steps to do it? =) are you stlil using svn for pd-extended ??? cheers, y [1]https://github.com/completion-plugin -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] completion-plugin in pd-extended
On 25/02/13 14:04, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For something to be included in Pd-extended, it needs to work on all platforms, and be stable both in terms of bugs and APIs/interface. I would love to see the completion plugin get to that point. oh I see.. as I have no access to osx nor windows machines I guess it'll stay in the wild on github for some more time then =) for example the bug reported here[1] is an OS one IIRC (i.e. users need to manually update Tcl on osx and it needs some tweaks, etc so it might never work out-of-the-box on osx...) cheers, y [1] https://github.com/gusano/completion-plugin/issues/2 -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] can't load gridflow 9.13 on Mountain Lion?
On 01/03/13 18:53, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: How many people use Gridflow, anyway? well, many should because gridflow is amazing =) y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] completion-plugin in pd-extended
hi João! On 03/03/13 17:19, João Pais wrote: I have a windows and mac (powerpc) machine in my room, sharing the same keyboard and mouse. is that enough for debugging? sure if you can help, feel free to test and report bugs to me! there is still this issue with pd-vanilla[1], which should be tracked on sourceforge but I won't do it as I don't own a mac (and the user who reported that to me does not seem willing to do it himself) cheers, y [1] https://github.com/gusano/completion-plugin/issues/2 -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Git version control, diff and pd.
On 17/04/13 16:54, Roman Haefeli wrote: Can anyone provide tips on how to diff two pd patches to find differences quickly so that conflicts can be fixed by hand without spending too much time trying to find differences? I think there is no way to sanely handle that. wasn't there some plan to use `json` for pd patches in the (erm..) future? cannot find that in the archives right now though.. y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] got jump-on-click arrays working
On 29/04/13 20:36, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: * I got jump-on-click arrays working. * Implemented "bargraph style" for "Put" menu arrays. (See attached) This is basically a multi-slider. nice! do you have both jump-on-click /and/ "bargraph" at the same time? cheers, y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] got jump-on-click arrays working
On 29/04/13 21:26, yvan volochine wrote: On 29/04/13 20:36, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: * I got jump-on-click arrays working. * Implemented "bargraph style" for "Put" menu arrays. (See attached) This is basically a multi-slider. nice! do you have both jump-on-click /and/ "bargraph" at the same time? one behavior I missed at the time was having all sliders to "align" when you click on the left side, (don't release yet) move cursor to the right side and then release, i.e. jump-on-click and jump-on-index-change kinda behavior.. also having this as an activable option would be nice.. just my 0.02£ y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] got jump-on-click arrays working
On 29/04/13 22:07, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: That's the behavior I currently have working. cool =) The question is whether there is a need for an additional option to turn off the "jump-on-index" naa I meant the jump-on-click option only.. you might want to keep some sliders responding to delta mouse values and don't "accidentaly" jump from 0.1 to 1.0 (like volume..) cheers, y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd color presets
hi Jonathan, How do I hook this into Yvan Volochine's gui-prefs stuff? It currently only saves recent files-- is there a guide on how to add more gui preferences? IIRC it should be pretty straightforward (although I wrote that some time ago..). have a look at how it's done for recentfiles inside `::pd_guiprefs::write_recentfiles()` (and probably `::pd_guiprefs::init()` as well..) and do the same thing =) just use another filename for the stuff you wanna save and use the main procs for read/write `::pd_guiprefs::get_config()` and `::pd_guiprefs::write_config()` https://github.com/gusano/pure-data/blob/master/tcl/pd_guiprefs.tcl#L26-65 let me know if I can help ciao, y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] compiling pix_opencv on debian (lmde)
FYI it does not build on archlinux (with opencv2).
I fixed some of it with the following patch:
https://gist.github.com/gusano/5814205
and now all externals build fine except for `pix_opencv_blobtrack` which
gives the following error:
blobtrack.h: In function ‘CvFGDetector* cvCreateFGDetector1()’:
blobtrack.h:20:113: warning: control reaches end of non-void function
[-Wreturn-type]
static CvFGDetector* cvCreateFGDetector1 () { return
cvCreateFGDetectorBase(CV_BG_MODEL_MOG,NULL); }
^
blobtrack.h: In function ‘CvFGDetector* cvCreateFGDetector0Simple()’:
blobtrack.h:19:113: warning: control reaches end of non-void function
[-Wreturn-type]
static CvFGDetector* cvCreateFGDetector0Simple() { return
cvCreateFGDetectorBase(CV_BG_MODEL_FGD_SIMPLE, NULL); }
^
blobtrack.h: In function ‘CvFGDetector* cvCreateFGDetector0()’:
blobtrack.h:18:113: warning: control reaches end of non-void function
[-Wreturn-type]
static CvFGDetector* cvCreateFGDetector0 () { return
cvCreateFGDetectorBase(CV_BG_MODEL_FGD,NULL); }
^
make: *** [pix_opencv_blobtrack.o] Error 1
ciao,
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Re: [PD] compiling pix_opencv on debian (lmde)
On 20/06/13 15:04, Antoine Villeret wrote: thanks for this I just tested your patch with a fresh install of Ubuntu and it doesn't work pix_opencv still depends both on opencv 1.5 and 2.3 it's a shame but I'll fix this later yep, I thought that this might be archlinux specific, that's why I didn't "officialy" submit my patch =) libopencv-dev is version 2.3.1 the others are legacy and install among others cv.h concerning, pix_opencv_blobtrack, which version of opencv are you using ? check it with : echo $(pkg-config --modversion opencv) 2.4.5 ciao, y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] compiling pix_opencv on debian (lmde)
hi Antoine I've push a fixed version to svn it should work with both version could you please test it with 2.4.5 ? nice, it seems that all externals build fine now (except for pix_opencv_surf but it looks like it should not be build in the first place..). I still get this error at the end of the build though: blobtrack.cpp: At global scope: blobtrack.cpp:643:1: error: ‘q’ does not name a type q ^ [snip] ^ make: *** [blobtrack] Error 1 ciao, y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness
hi list! I seem to recall some changes about the way pd and jackd interact together but I couldn't find the related info online so forgive me if that was discussed already.. before, if I launched pd without jack running, pd would take more time to launch with a bunch of messages complaining that jack is not running... now, if jack is not running and I launch pd, pd starts jack by itself.. well... ok... the problem is that when I close pd, it just won't close (terminal would print "watchdog... signaling pd" messages forever) and unless I kill the created jackd process, the pd window would _never_ close argh. this is really annoying and looks like a regression to me.. should I submit an issue or is that a known one or was it discussed already (and I missed it)? running pd-0.45 on archlinux Linux x230 3.9.6-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMP ciao y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness
hi Miller, Are you using 0.44? (I don't think 0.45 exists yet :) yeah sorry, 0.44 (pd-0.45-0-test) The only relevant thing I can find in recent commits is a change from jack_client_new() to jack_client_open() back in 2010. With apologies, here is the commit I found... commit 1022e5687bb5785904ba1b1977a9a29c9b6b25dc [SNIP] Is it possible this bug has been there for the last three years? (i.e. 0.43 and 0.44 would have this problem)? I just built 0.43-1 and yes the problem is there as well (weird that I never tried to open pd without jack before..). I couldn't build any older pd version (I guess I have a too recent tcl somehow) so I cannot test with 0.42 (or with the commit before the one you mentioned) let me know if I should submit an issue.. ciao, y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness
On 24/06/13 18:58, Miller Puckette wrote: Thanks... I'm toying with a middle solution, which would be simply to open jack with the JackNoStartServer option (one of JackOpenOptions). I think this is a good idea anyway as the user might want to specify jack options and it seems wrong to have Pd get involved in that. +1 =) y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] compiling pix_opencv on debian (lmde)
On 21/06/13 20:40, Antoine Villeret wrote: i've made some change in the headers it should not depends on libcv-dev libhighgui-dev and libcvaux-dev anymore maybe this solve your problem too I still get the aforementioned error but after all externals have been built fine. but getting rid of dependencies is always nice =) and here's another patch reflecting the new sf.net repo url in pix_opencv README: https://gist.github.com/gusano/5857170 ciao y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] compiling pix_opencv on debian (lmde)
On 25/06/13 14:27, Antoine Villeret wrote: it should be fixed now, i don't know from where the line 643 comes... but my gcc 4.6.3 doesn't complain for that I have 4.8.1 thanks for reporting haha, funny that I missed that as well =) thanks for fixing! ciao y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness
On 26/06/13 11:31, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: yes, i would like to have an "-audio auto" switch, that will try to get*any* audio backend (e.g. jack, alsa, oss, dummy; in that order) i even think that this should be the default (e.g. when you start Pd with no arguments and uninitialized settings). but please provide a way to disable this autostart-audio feature. (I don't know any audio app which starts jack for me consider as well this use case: - a user starts pd (jack is not running) - pd starts a jackd process - user closes pd (admitting that the bug I reported is fixed) - user launches firefox and gets no audio from it unless (s)he kills the jackd process very annoying for those who are not familiar with how to use your browser with jack etc.. cheers, y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness
On 26/06/13 12:57, Nick Lanham wrote: In my experience, most people using jack these days are aware that most clients will autostart the server if they haven't started it, and it does not confuse them. yeah well in my expericence you don't need to open a terminal and kill jackd because an app has been too smart and started it for you. since my first days with linux I learned to: * start jack * use my favorite audio app(s) * stop jack when I'm done I don't know if the following apps use the old jack API but about "starting jack for me when I didn't ask them to": * supercollider does not * ardour3 does not * audacity does not * any media players that I tried don't.. I would expect a call to `jack_client_open()` when I turn DSP on, not when I launch an app with which I might not make audio at all.. my 0.02£ anyway y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness
On 26/06/13 14:11, Nick Lanham wrote: * ardour3 does not - Yes it does. It will pop up a dialog asking you to configure jack first, but it does start it. of course you're right, my mistake.. I would expect a call to `jack_client_open()` when I turn DSP on, not when I launch an app with which I might not make audio at all.. Agreed. If I don't turn on DSP, PD probably shouldn't start jack, but if you haven't started jack and you've configured PD to use jack, and you turn on DSP, it should probably start it. agreed too. so I guess pd should behave like the following: - don't start jack when pd is launched - start jack when DSP is turned on (unless another audio backend was selected) - stop jack when quitting pd if pd is the only jack client (like Ardour3 does) cheers, y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] store value of any type
hi all, I'd like to store a value which can be of any type but I don't remember if that's even possible.. something like [value foo] but that would work for integer, list, or anything else like for [foo bar 123( is there a vanilla object for that? cheers, y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] store value of any type
hi Miller, If it's just local, the "list" object will do it (floats and symbols are just one-element lists). If you want something that (like 'value') can be accessed by name or pointer elsewhere in the patch, you might want the "text" object (in git repo, upcoming for version 0.45). If you're insteested in trying it and don't want to compile your own write back and I can put out a "test" release - there's a bunch still to do but it seems to be working OK. I want it to be accessed by pointer somewhere else so I guess I'll give [text] a try.. thanks! y ps: pd would not build from master like 5 days ago on my machine (up-to-date archlinux) but I didn't folow recent commits so maybe that's fixed already.. -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] store value of any type
On 04/07/13 22:23, Miller Puckette wrote: It might be fixed. I use "make -f makefile.gnu" from pd/src to avoice all the automake horror, and so had allowed the automake to get out of sync witht he source - Iohannes patched that so things migth be back to normal with automake too by now. it's still broken for me but I managed to build with the "old-school-way(TM)" :) it seems that [text] help file is missing though.. would you mind giving me a quick `howto` for that object? cheers, y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] store value of any type
On 04/07/13 22:54, Miller Puckette wrote: Relly - you can make a [text] object but help comes up empty? There should be a file doc/5.reference/text-object-help.pd ... nope, trying to open its help gives me: sorry, couldn't find help patch for "text-object.pd" and that might be because: $ ls /usr/local/lib/pd bin/ I built latest master with the following: $ cd src $ make -f makefile.gnu $ make $ sudo make install y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] store value of any type
On 04/07/13 22:13, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Does that mean only within the scope of your "session" (then [list] should do..), or even through patch opening/closing? yep [list] is the way to go.. thanks! y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] store value of any type
On 04/07/13 23:08, Miller Puckette wrote: Aha... I never 'make install' myself - I'd better go look at that. Anyhow I think it shoud have been 'make -f makefile.gnu install' instead... yes this works.. I'll give [text] a try, thanks! maybe it's worth updating INSTALL.txt with your instructions while automake build is broken? =) (I have to say that I agree with Iohannes about sticking to only one build process for better/easier maintenance, but that's another subject) cheers, y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] building Pd vanilla with mingw
On 26/07/13 15:15, Antoine Villeret wrote:
git reflog
5419183 HEAD@{0}: clone: from git://
pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
maybe I cloned the wrong repos ?
sf.net changed their repos URL so you need the following if you wanna
try to build latest master:
$ git remote set-url origin git://git.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/pure-data
$ git pull origin master
but as I don't have any windowz I have no idea if current master build
with mingw :/
HTH
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Re: [PD] building Pd vanilla with mingw
On 26/07/13 19:18, Antoine Villeret wrote: i'm not sure which link is the right one for SVN and pd-extended so I let who knows to update them... this is the one for pd-extended/svn: $ svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/svn/trunk pure-data-svn ciao y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://github.com/gusano http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] get dir of current pd
On 17/07/13 15:44, Max wrote: is there something like [ggee/getdir] but for getting the path of the currently running Pd binary? you mind explaining why you would need that? maybe there's an alternative way to achieve what you want? y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://github.com/gusano http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] get dir of current pd
On 30/07/13 08:41, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Ok, I figured out how to do this and how do you do? y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://github.com/gusano http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] get dir of current pd
On 30/07/13 15:30, Max wrote: If you are using two separate instances, then you either need to start them manually, create a shell script that does it, or (and this is finally why I was curious to know if there is a way from within Pd to know the path of the binary) launch the second instance from he first instance through a [ggee/shell] or [moonlib/popen]. I'd definitely go for the shell script solution.. although after some quick tests I didn't manage to run 2 different pd instances from one shell script... my 2 cents anyway good luck! y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://github.com/gusano http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] get dir of current pd
On 30/07/13 20:43, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I don't think /proc/self/exe is a requirement of all Linux flavors, and I don't know what the BSD OSes do, or OSX. So I'm reluctant to add this to [pdinfo]. I'd say don't bother adding anything that's not really needed (which does seem the case here IMHO). especially if that's not 100% sure to be OS compatible, etc y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://github.com/gusano http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [change] bug?
On 23/09/13 20:45, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: You can make your own version of that by first sending a copy of the incoming value through a spigot: [spigot 1] | [* -1] | [set $1( | [change] Then set the right inlet of [spigot] to zero and send the incoming value to your [change] object, and it will be guaranteed to pass. and if the incoming value is 0? =) y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [pyext] sending a bang to an object
hi just wondering how I could send a bang to an object with [pyext] ? I tryed: self._send(rcvname, "bang") but of course I get the error 'No method for symbol' because my object receives the *string* "bang" is there any workaround for this ? what I try to achieve is get the current value of this object, so I thought about binding it and sending it a bang. maybe there is a way to retrieve the current value of this object directly with some method I overlooked ? like: self._receive(sndname) that would be nice =) cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [pyext] sending a bang to an object
On 3/11/11, Yvan Volochine wrote: > hi > just wondering how I could send a bang to an object with [pyext] ? > I tryed: > self._send(rcvname, "bang") > but of course I get the error 'No method for symbol' because my object > receives the *string* "bang" > is there any workaround for this ? Thomas kindly stated that the trick is to call the method without further arguments: self._send(rcvname) detailed story: http://g.org/pipermail/ext/2011-March/37.html cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [pyext] [bug] nbx doesn't respond to bang sent by a py script
hi
I don't know if it's worth reporting this but just in case...
if I bind [nbx] to a `recv' method in a py script, it does not output
its value after receiving a bang from the script.
attached is debug_nbx.py and debug.pd patch to show the behavior.
anyway, thanks for the good work, py/pyext is amazing ;)
cheers,
_y
# py/pyext - python script objects for PD and MaxMSP
#
# Copyright (c) 2002-2005 Thomas Grill (g...@g.org)
# For information on usage and redistribution, and for a DISCLAIMER OF ALL
# WARRANTIES, see the file, "license.txt," in this distribution.
#
"""debug nbx"""
try:
import pyext
except:
print "ERROR: This script must be loaded by the PD/Max pyext external"
class nbx(pyext._class):
"""..."""
_inlets = 1
_outlets = 0
def __init__(self,*args):
"""Class constructor"""
print "\n\n\n\n\n\ninit\n\n\n\n\n\n"
def bind_1(self):
print "binding 's_float'"
self._bind("s_float", self.recv)
print "binding 's_nbx'"
self._bind("s_nbx", self.recv)
def bang_1(self):
print "sending a bang to 'r_float'"
self._send("r_float")
print "sending a bang to 'r_nbx'"
self._send("r_nbx")
def recv(self, arg):
"""receive function"""
print arg
def __del__(self):
"""Class destructor"""
pass
debug.pd
Description: Binary data
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Re: [PD] Workshop for beginners in Bordeaux, France.
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Olivier Baudu wrote: [snip] > For curious, you can see my works with Pd-extended on my website : > http://yamatierea.org/papatchs/ ca mériterait d'être en anglais aussi :P cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Workshop for beginners in Bordeaux, France.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: >>> >>> For curious, you can see my works with Pd-extended on my website : >>> http://yamatierea.org/papatchs/ >> >> ca mériterait d'être en anglais aussi :P > > Veux-tu dire que ça serait trop bon pour être écrit en français ? :P trop bon pour n'être écrit *que* en francais =) we want it in english queremos eso en español wir wollen das auf Deutsch etc... _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [pyext] sending a bang to an object
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Thomas Grill wrote: > self._send(rcvname) > currently sends an empty list message to the rcvname receiver which is often > interpreted but need not always be > > the correct way would be > self._send(rcvname,"bang",()) > which is equivalent to a message with selector bang and no further arguments > (empty tuple) > > since the former notation > self._send(rcvname) > is also used with pyext outlets as > self._outlet(outletnum) > to send a bang, i corrected the behavior in the py/pyext SVN to indeed send a > bang. > However, this is not yet reflected in the binaries in circulation hi Thomas, latest svn and self._send(rcvname) does not work with [nbx] but self._send(rcvname, "bang", ()) does the trick and solves the [nbx] issue at the same time =) thanks ! _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [SHARE][PYEXT] preset management
hallo, after spending the w-end being curious about python in pd, I did as an exercise a preset manager with excellent [pyext]. patch/abstractions txt files are parsed (sic =) to find UI objects with valid send/receive symbols that are going to be saved. it might not be the most elegant python code ever but anyway, for the curious, you can grab the script and help file there: http://github.com/gusano/pd_stuffs note that this was only tested on pd-0.43.0test3, python 2.7 and latest [py] svn on linux comments and bug reports are welcome ! cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [ext] [pyext] [bug] nbx doesn't respond to bang sent by a py script
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Thomas Grill wrote: > Hi Yvan, > thanks for reporting - that seems to a bug, although hard to say where > situated. I'll look into it. this is fixed by using self._send(rcvname, "bang" ()) cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ⌘+⇧+L
On 03/25/2011 01:09 PM, cyrille henry wrote:
Le 25/03/2011 12:48, Joe White a écrit :
I've just been told I can clear the log in Pd-0.43 with the shortcut
'⌘+⇧+L'.
To whomever implemented this - you are a god.
Made my day so far :)
personally, i hate this shortcut :
it's the only one I use that i can't do with my left hand only. Since
the right hand is on my mouse, it is not really convinient to use it.
and since the clear button disappear, i have use the edit menu / clear log.
well, look like someone god is someone else nightmare.
well, that's easy to change with a gui-plugin:
just puts this line in a file called "clear_console_shortcut.tcl" (or
whatever name you like) and put the file in your pd path:
bind all <$::modifier-Shift-Key-X> {menu_clear_console}
and bingo, MOD+SHIFT+X clears the console =)
cheers,
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Re: [PD] ⌘+⇧+L
On 03/25/2011 01:54 PM, yvan volochine wrote:
well, that's easy to change with a gui-plugin:
just puts this line in a file called "clear_console_shortcut.tcl" (or
whatever name you like) and put the file in your pd path:
bind all <$::modifier-Shift-Key-X> {menu_clear_console}
and bingo, MOD+SHIFT+X clears the console =)
oops, the name of the file *has to* use this scheme:
blablabla-plugin.tcl
for it to work.
_y
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[PD] 3 new gui-plugins
hi, I'm happy to announce the release of 3 new Gui-Plugins I wrote for Pd: - menubar-shortuts-plugin - recentfiles-plugin - auto-completion-plugin get them here: http://puredata.info/search?portal_type%3Alist=PSCProject&Creator=yv comments and bug reports are welcome =) cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] 3 new gui-plugins
hi, I'm happy to announce the release of 3 new Gui-Plugins I wrote for Pd: - menubar-shortuts-plugin - recentfiles-plugin - auto-completion-plugin get them here: http://puredata.info/search?portal_type%3Alist=PSCProject&Creator=yv comments and bug reports are welcome =) cheers, _y ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins
On 04/03/2011 05:57 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Wow, I love the tab autocompletion plugin! What would be amazing if we had a bash-style completion files were the arguments were also tab-completable, when relevant. Things like filenames, table/array names, send/receive names, etc. This completion file could be included in libraries. It really highlights how badly we need Enter/Return to instantiate the object. Personally I prefer the default tcsh/bash-style where tab doesn't cycle thru the options when you hit tab repeatly. I could see a bash/tcsh style display of the options, like in a popup when you hit tab repeatedly. hey thanks. I'm not really supposed to dedicate that ammount of time developping for pd but as I'm unemployed right now =) I'm afraid the bash style auto-completion is a bit above my head, but the idea is nice. One thing that needs to happen to make the auto-complete plugin more deployable is to have all its procs in its own namespace. Otherwise there can easily be name conflicts with other things named 'init', 'trigger', etc. done (FYI: sending to pd-announce also sends to pd-list) okay cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins
On 04/03/2011 06:44 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 3, 2011, at 12:12 PM, yvan volochine wrote: On 04/03/2011 05:57 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Wow, I love the tab autocompletion plugin! What would be amazing if we had a bash-style completion files were the arguments were also tab-completable, when relevant. Things like filenames, table/array names, send/receive names, etc. This completion file could be included in libraries. It really highlights how badly we need Enter/Return to instantiate the object. Personally I prefer the default tcsh/bash-style where tab doesn't cycle thru the options when you hit tab repeatly. I could see a bash/tcsh style display of the options, like in a popup when you hit tab repeatedly. hey thanks. I'm not really supposed to dedicate that ammount of time developping for pd but as I'm unemployed right now =) I'm afraid the bash style auto-completion is a bit above my head, but the idea is nice. Basically, the first is the trigger: hitting tab twice where the tab does not add any more characters. So using your plugin as an example, type M-O-Tab-Tab would then list 'mod' and 'moses' as options but not change the 'mo' in the box. Those options could then be in a popup menu to both see and select with the keyboard or mouse. yeah that's what I wanted first: a ComboBox below the object box, but then I had troubles with object box coordinates (did the user click or is the object still moving with the cursor, etc...) and I started adding some "if" and all kind of stuff inside mouse motion procedures and that became nasty. this (and the fact that I wanted it now =) made me rewrite the plugin with the "cycling-through-completions-with-tab" behavior (which I still find very cool for speedy-patching) cheers, _y Adding the argument completion would probably be a lot more work, but I haven't really thought about it. But just having object name completion is huge! .hc One thing that needs to happen to make the auto-complete plugin more deployable is to have all its procs in its own namespace. Otherwise there can easily be name conflicts with other things named 'init', 'trigger', etc. done (FYI: sending to pd-announce also sends to pd-list) okay cheers, _y You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins
On 04/03/11 23:37, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I'm trying to think if there is a way to keep or get the coordinates of
the object itself. On the C-side there is, plus when an object is
created or edited then the GUI knows the location of it. Here's how, in
your pdtk_text_editing, you just need to query the coords of the active
text widget. This is a rough attempt that just gets a menu popping up:
proc pdtk_text_editing {mytoplevel tag editing} {
set tkcanvas [tkcanvas_name $mytoplevel]
set rectcoords [$tkcanvas coords ${tag}R]
if {$rectcoords ne ""} {
set x [expr int([lindex $rectcoords 0])]
set y [expr int([lindex $rectcoords 1] - 20)]
pdtk_post "currently editing at: $x $y\n"
if {! [winfo exists .completepopup] } {
menu .completepopup
.completepopup add command -label mod -command bell
.completepopup add command -label moses -command bell
}
tk_popup .completepopup $x $y
}
if {$editing == 0} {
selection clear $tkcanvas
# auto-completion
set ::completions {}
set ::new_object false
set ::lock_motion false
set ::cycle false
} {
set ::editingtext($mytoplevel) $editing
# auto-completion
set ::new_object $editing
}
$tkcanvas focus $tag
}
hi Hans
dunno if this is the same for you but for me there are some issues with
this (on Archlinux + fluxbox):
- the popup is created at "screen coordinates" and not patch window
ones, i.e. if the object box is at 100x25 (from the top-left patch
window), the popup appears at 100x25 from the top-left corner of my
whole screen, which I find not very intuitive
- also, if you are creating an object with CTRL-1 and moving your mouse
(no click), the coordinates don't update (but that's not that bad)
anyway, all these are the reasons why I dropped the popup option (which
would be better IMHO).
I'll think a bit more about it in the next days.
cheers,
_y
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Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins
On 04/03/11 23:29, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Here's a hack to get around the hacky creator names of the list objects (I also added "list", but I'm not sure if you want to use aliases.) hey thanks for spotting this. they are already in the global list of pd internals but I didn't notice that they had underscores instead of spaces. I fixed it directly in the main list and it will be on the next version. Is there no way to just get a list of all the creator names that are available when Pd loads up? I'm afraid not :/ but you can manually add your favorites or missing/special ones in the file $::user_objects_list cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] auto-completion with popup [was: 3 new gui-plugins]
hiho I got the popup thing working with auto-completion =) thanks to hc for the help and inspiration http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/auto-completion-plugin enjoy ! as usual, bug reports are welcome (I didn't test the popup on osx/win...) cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] auto-completion with popup [was: 3 new gui-plugins]
On 04/04/2011 10:05 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, yvan volochine wrote: I got the popup thing working with auto-completion =) thanks to hc for the help and inspiration Btw, had you tried DesireData's auto-completion ? 1. just name suggestions http://artengine.ca/desiredata/gallery/completions.gif 2. with short descriptions in 15 languages http://artengine.ca/desiredata/gallery/completions2.gif 3. can pick from popup list using arrow http://code.goto10.org/projects/desiredata/attachment/wiki/UserDocs/dd_comp.png there were some more improvements after (3) to make it look better. That's something I started to write in 2004, and Chun Lee improved it in 2006 or 2007. hi no I never tried it (when I discovered it back in the years, my linux knowledge was close to null and I thought that the project was dropped (for some reasons..)) it always looked amazing to me, congrats ! (as well as gridflow) I had to use pd again not long ago and thought that I should try to code these goodies for the sake of patching faster and with (nearly) no mouse (although I hate tcl, gui-plugins are cool =) I'll give a try at desiredata and let you know. cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] auto-completion with popup [was: 3 new gui-plugins]
On 04/06/2011 09:23 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It would be great if as many of those desiredata improvements as possible were available as GUI plugins, I think I a lot of people would use them. Yeah. It would be great if they were. But they aren't. That's why I mention some of them, once in a while. BTW I gave a quick try to DesireData CTRL + arrows to select surrounding objects is amazing ! (although a bit buggy here) this + connect via keyboard shortcuts would be insanely cool :P cheers, _y ps: and stick to grid !!! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] auto-completion with popup [was: 3 new gui-plugins]
On 04/06/2011 11:09 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, yvan volochine wrote: BTW I gave a quick try to DesireData CTRL + arrows to select surrounding objects is amazing ! (although a bit buggy here) this + connect via keyboard shortcuts would be insanely cool :P btw, here's the article on keyboard-only interface, from 2nd Pd Convention (Montréal 2007) : http://artengine.ca/~catalogue-pd/18-Lee-Bouchard.pdf interesting, thanks. _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins
On 04/14/2011 11:54 AM, JF wrote: The auto-completion is fantastic stuff! Especially the drop-down menu addition. Congratulations Yvan, HC& JW. Is there anyway of modifying the plugin so that instead of using TAB this happens... there is a new version but it's still expermiental (and unreleased). if you wanna test it: http://github.com/gusano/pd_stuffs and checkout autocompletion_experimental branch * Create new object -> list of objects appear in full (0-9, a-z) but focus stays in object then it can be a *long* list of objects so I should change the GUI for it (nomore popup menu but a window with scrollbars but then you don't have an easy overview of all completions...). not sure I really want that though :/ maybe this could be a user option ? * Begin typing -> list of objects reduces as you type the experimental version does that but there are still some bugs * See the one you want -> arrow key up/down, focus changes to drop-down box then ENTER to select desired object the current version does that cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins
On 04/14/2011 07:30 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: how do install the tab completion properly? get the gui-plugin there: http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/auto-completion-plugin and howto is there: http://puredata.info/docs/guiplugins cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] gridflow issues
hi, trying to debug a patch using gridflow-0.12 on pd-extended-0.42.5 (ubuntu-lucid), I have some issues: - some tcl errors at pd startup[1]: (tcl) invalid command name ".xb6cde8.c" while executing ".xb6cde8.c delete gf08c44168" and then (30 or more): .x8e3b590 no such object - then I tried to build gridflow-0.13 but it does not find half of the headers and I have a couple of gcc errors just with ./configure (libs not found are libdc1394, libmpeg3, quicktime, ... although they are all installed and can all be found in /usr/include) as updating the OS is not currently an option, I wonder if there is something obvious I'm missing... sorry for not posting the complete backtrace but this happened on another machine than mine ps: ruby-1.8.7 and gcc/g++-4.4.3 pps: gridflow-0.12 was installed from a *.deb any help is appreciated cheers, _y [1] those errors go away if I remove gridflow/abstractions from the pd-path ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gridflow issues
On 04/17/2011 04:14 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, yvan volochine wrote: trying to debug a patch using gridflow-0.12 There's no leading 0 since a year ago. It would have been 0.9.12 but now it's like 9.12. It has never been 0.12. yes of course I meant 9.12 on pd-extended-0.42.5 (ubuntu-lucid), I have some issues: - some tcl errors at pd startup[1]: (tcl) invalid command name ".xb6cde8.c" while executing ".xb6cde8.c delete gf08c44168" That doesn't look like a pd (0.)42 error message style. Are you sure that you aren't doing it with a pd (0.)43 ? indeed, I tried with both and the tcl error is on pd-0.43 and then (30 or more): .x8e3b590 no such object Haven't seen that. I could check with pd (0.)43 again to see whether that's the bug that GridFlow had with it. this appears also on pd-extended-0.42.5 - then I tried to build gridflow-0.13 but it does not find half of the headers and I have a couple of gcc errors just with ./configure (libs not found are libdc1394, libmpeg3, quicktime, ... although they are all installed and can all be found in /usr/include) Send me your config.log. here it is: http://pastebin.com/cPKhKSWQ ps: ruby-1.8.7 and gcc/g++-4.4.3 pps: gridflow-0.12 was installed from a *.deb [1] those errors go away if I remove gridflow/abstractions from the pd-path Ah, GridFlow needs add its own path elements to the pd-path, and it doesn't remove any conflicting ones that it may see. This may cause a problem when upgrading to 9.13 from 9.12. I don't know of any way to automatically fix this. So, you just have to remove the gridflow/abstractions item and... there's a gridflow/deprecated folder to be removed too, and perhaps gridflow/doc/flow_classes (though that's a -helppath instead). it seems that my friend needs those abstractions so I dunno what to do next. that's why I tried to build 9.13, I thought that the bugs in the patch (random freezes, shutdown etc) might be related to those missing canvas/objects but I'm not sure.. cheers, _y ps: I uploaded to ruby-1.9.1 just in case but same problems with building (and I don't see any new gcc/g++ in the ubuntu repos) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gridflow issues
On 04/17/2011 06:55 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, yvan volochine wrote: and then (30 or more): .x8e3b590 no such object Haven't seen that. I could check with pd (0.)43 again to see whether that's the bug that GridFlow had with it. this appears also on pd-extended-0.42.5 With any patch, or only those using [display] or [#see] ? it seems with patches using [display] but she got rid of the errors by cleaning the patch (looks like there were some zombies, like invisible sub-patches that were deleted but somehow were still there... weird) (libs not found are libdc1394, libmpeg3, quicktime, ... although they are all installed and can all be found in /usr/include) Send me your config.log. here it is: http://pastebin.com/cPKhKSWQ the nasm problem is fixed in 9.14 (it's a ./configure problem ; you can fix it using --force-nasm) dc1394 is a bigger problem : the API was changed, and thus part of gridflow/src/dc1394.cxx would have to be rewritten, and I have no such camera. In addition, the laptop I just bought doesn't have any FireWire port (but I still have the other laptop). so that means not building 9.13 for now it seems that my friend needs those abstractions Can't your friend use the ones bundled in the version of GridFlow that will be loaded ? No functionality got removed, but many patches depend on changes in abstractions, and some abstractions may depend on changes in other externals that are part of GridFlow, so, it's way better to not mix and match parts of different versions. I was mentioning gridflow/abstractions from the one installed (9.12, not 9.13) I thought that the bugs in the patch (random freezes, shutdown etc) might be related to those missing canvas/objects but I'm not sure.. I haven't had random shutdowns for three years now, and I don't remember ever having random freezes. If you think that the problem has to do with GUI objects, try making smaller versions of your patches that use less GUI objects and see whether the error messages and/or the freezes and/or the crashes disappear. You may notice patterns that will narrow down the possibilities, and then perhaps you'll have enough information to be able to write a bug report. yeah it might come from the patch itself =) ps: I uploaded upgraded ? jawohl thanks for the infos! cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gridflow issues
salut Matthieu another question: is there a way to force gridflow external to load from a specified path? ie: I'm trying to setup pd-vanilla wth gridflow-9.13 where the user already has pd-extended with gridflow-9.12. (don't ask me why =) gridflow.pd_linux (9.12) is in ~/pd-externals/gridflow gridflow.pd_linux (9.13) is in ~/pd-vanilla-externals/gridflow-9.13 problem is that pd -lib gridflow (with the new path to 9.13) still loads the one from pd-externals (9.12) although ~/pd-externals/gridflow is *not* in his path. is there any workaround to this ? cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gridflow issues
On 04/26/2011 03:42 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-04-26 15:23, yvan volochine wrote: salut Matthieu another question: is there a way to force gridflow external to load from a specified path? ie: I'm trying to setup pd-vanilla wth gridflow-9.13 where the user already has pd-extended with gridflow-9.12. (don't ask me why =) gridflow.pd_linux (9.12) is in ~/pd-externals/gridflow gridflow.pd_linux (9.13) is in ~/pd-vanilla-externals/gridflow-9.13 problem is that pd -lib gridflow (with the new path to 9.13) still loads the one from pd-externals (9.12) although ~/pd-externals/gridflow is *not* in his path. is there any workaround to this ? ~/pd-externals/ is _always_ in the path. you might be able to turn this off, by specifying "-nostdpath", though this will also turn off searching of .../pd/extra/ anyhow, if you add ~/pd-vanilla-externals/gridflow-9.13 to your search paths (e.g. using the "-path" flag) , then the gridflow found therein should take precedence over the one in ~/pd-externals/ I see.. I find this weird that this does not work if gridflow-9.13 is in my path in .pdsettings) but it does with pd -path xxx also, `pd -path /path/to/gridflow-9.13' gives me: "GridFlow 9.13... GridFlow was compiled on Apr. 26 2011 [snip] /path/to/griflow-9.12/gridflow_x11.pd_linux undefined symbol... /path/to/griflow-9.12/gridflow_gem_loader.pd_linux undefined symbol... /path/to/griflow-9.12/gridflow_pdp.pd_linux undefined symbol... " so I guess there is no workaround except removing 9.12 from pd-externals.. cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gridflow issues
On 04/26/2011 03:53 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote: I couldn't get Gridflow to work on any of my computers running different versions of windows (Win 7, 32 or 64 bit) and pd 0.43 (either vanilla or extended) whether or not there is a pd 0.42 install on the same computer and with similar binaries. I think there is some incompatibility at the moment between the pd 0.43 and gridflow. I wrote Mathieu about this a while ago. just reverted to gridflow-9.12 and so far it seems to work fine on pd-0.43 (vanilla) (& this machine runs ubuntu lucid) cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] gtk-open-save broken with gui-plugins
ciao it seems that gtk-open-save stops working as soon as I have any other gui-plugin in my path. it fails back to (ugly) tk open with this warning: WARNING: pd_gtk_open binary NOT found: /home/yvan/dev/pd_stuffs/gui-plugins/PLUGINNAME/bin/pd_gtk_open. Using Tk open if I remove *all* gui-plugins from my path, it works again. (archlinux, pd-0.43) cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gtk-open-save broken with gui-plugins
On 04/27/2011 01:19 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Yvan, You need to use the recently added $::current_plugin_loadpath. I think you can skip the multi-level paths (bin/, src/) and just include the .c and binary, and the tcl plugin in a single gtk-open-plugin folder, then you would use the binary from: "$::current_plugin_loadpath/gtk-open-plugin/pd_gtk_open" the problem seems to be that $::current_plugin_loadpath is overwritten by each gui-plugin coming after gtk-open-save, so if I have: path 1: /path/to/gtk-open-save path 2: /path/to/autocompletion-plugin I get: WARNING: pd_gtk_open binary NOT found: /path/to/autocompletion-plugin/bin/pd_gtk_open. Using Tk open. no time to look into it ATM. cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gtk-open-save broken with gui-plugins
On 04/27/2011 08:58 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: WARNING: pd_gtk_open binary NOT found: /home/yvan/dev/pd_stuffs/gui-plugins/PLUGINNAME/bin/pd_gtk_open. Using Tk open That means it can't find the pd_gtk_open for some reason. I'm note sure where the PLUGINNAME comes from though. My understanding is that $::current_plugin_loadpath will give the path where the plugin tcl file resides. see my previous post, $::current_plugin_loadpath is overwritten by any other gui-plugin coming after yours (in my case that was PLUGINNAME ;) cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gtk-open-save broken with gui-plugins
actually I found the problem in Lorenzo code. gtk_open_save paths are set to $::current_plugin_loadpath when calling "Open" or "Save", which means that $::current_plugin_loadpath was maybe already overwritten by another plugin. the solution is to assign these paths at plugin load time. attached is a fixed version. cheers, _y gtk-open-save_FIXED.tar.gz Description: application/gzip ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 dropped tk8.4 dependency only in source?
On 04/19/2011 09:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 14:15 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 19 Apr 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The Pd-extended 0.42.5 release on newer Debian/Ubuntu releases use Tcl/Tk 8.5 which releases are those ? Maverick? Lucid? Squeeze? I forget. not on lucid AFAICS, which is a PITA.. cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf for windows? (again)
sorry for the OT noise but... Patrice, it looks like your mail reader does not follow the 'reply-to topic' rule, i.e. each of your message appears as a new thread, which is pretty boring with long threads like this one in a decent mail reader. cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf for windows? (again)
On 04/28/2011 11:15 PM, Patrice Colet wrote: Thank you for telling me, but I don't now how to fix this, sometimes it follow the thread, sometimes not, let me try out how this one will be displayed on the archive... It's boring indeed when mails don't follow the thread. yeah this one worked =) again sorry for the OT.. cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gtk-open-save broken with gui-plugins
On 04/27/2011 12:44 PM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: actually I found the problem in Lorenzo code. gtk_open_save paths are set to $::current_plugin_loadpath when calling "Open" or "Save", which means that $::current_plugin_loadpath was maybe already overwritten by another plugin. Well spotted, Bravo! of course :) the solution is to assign these paths at plugin load time. attached is a fixed version. I updated the plugin with your patch. Thanks. cool =) and now that recentfiles support was added to latest pd, you might want to add it in your plugin as well (in 'saveas', calling update_recentfiles adds the saved file to the recentfiles list). here is a diff: diff gtk-save-plugin.tcl gtk-save-plugin.mine.tcl 57c57,59 < set ::filenewdir $dirname --- > set ::filenewdir $dirname > # add to recentfiles > ::pd_guiprefs::update_recentfiles $filename ciao _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Workshop: Switch from PureData! (Barcelona)
On 05/02/2011 04:02 PM, john saylor wrote: am i the only one who thinks it's odd to promote an anti-pd workshop on a pd list? (derek was right =) who said it's an "anti-pd" workshop ? knowing fredrik, it should be more about using new tools. have a look at his website and you'll see what I mean.. cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] helpbrowser and the paths
sorry if I miss some of the basics in pd-loading-libs or if this was discussed before but wouldn't it make sense to have a difference between what is added to 'path' and what goes into the HelpBrowser ? (i.e. -lib loads externals, help, ... and goes into HelpBrowser and -path adds whatever to the patch namespace but not to HelpBrowser) it's weird to have my music directories on the top of HelpBrowser. 0.02$ cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
