Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[Billy Stiltner]

http://rowebots.com/products. If you can get that OS to multiprocess then I
reckon microchip would be one option I think better than Parralax. I havent
kept up with the scene but  around 7 years ago this
http://geocities.ws/billy_stiltner/worldrecordplane/worldrecordplane.htmllittle
chip only had 16 bytes of ram, 256bytes of code, ran at 1MHz and
done 2chn PCM decoding and 2chn PWM output. Parralax was using Microchip
PICS for there chips and putting it in a fancy learning package. Looks like
Microchip has the 80MHz procs. You can write programs in RISC or even in C.
I wold imagine the port of PD would be a  nobrainer almost.  Atmel is
another microcontroller that would possibly make a nice little PD stompbox
brain. What  form of an embeddable host are you likely to find BSD in these
days? I would look there first then shop around for something along those
lines.
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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[Pierre Massat]

That's all I'm asking.

Pierre

2012/3/3 dreamer 

> So what about a Raspberry Pi  inside a stompbox that runs pd?
> It's relatively cheap. Perhaps you can use the gpio to do some nobs,
> switches, buttons etc.
>
> But could the arm11 in that thing handle awesum audio processing? ;)
>
>
> alexander
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Billy Stiltner 
> wrote:
> > sounds like lemmings
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Jonathan Wilkes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> > From: Mathieu Bouchard 
> >> > To: Billy Stiltner 
> >> > Cc: pd_list Listserve 
> >> > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 6:30 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?
> >> >
> >> > Le 2012-03-02 à 17:37:00, Billy Stiltner a écrit :
> >> >
> >> >>  you should be able to get a 486 on a pinhead these days
> >> >
> >> > How many 486 can dance on the head of a pin ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F
> >>
> >> Until no more angels can fit on the pin, send more angels to the head of
> >> the pin.
> >>
> >> When you're done, stop.
> >>
> >> But most importantly-- if you can't stop, don't start.
> >>
> >> -Jonathan
> >>
> >> >
> >> > 486dx, of course.
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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[dreamer]

So what about a Raspberry Pi  inside a stompbox that runs pd?
It's relatively cheap. Perhaps you can use the gpio to do some nobs,
switches, buttons etc.

But could the arm11 in that thing handle awesum audio processing? ;)


alexander



On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Billy Stiltner  wrote:
> sounds like lemmings
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Jonathan Wilkes  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> > From: Mathieu Bouchard 
>> > To: Billy Stiltner 
>> > Cc: pd_list Listserve 
>> > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 6:30 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?
>> >
>> > Le 2012-03-02 à 17:37:00, Billy Stiltner a écrit :
>> >
>> >>  you should be able to get a 486 on a pinhead these days
>> >
>> > How many 486 can dance on the head of a pin ?
>> >
>> >
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F
>>
>> Until no more angels can fit on the pin, send more angels to the head of
>> the pin.
>>
>> When you're done, stop.
>>
>> But most importantly-- if you can't stop, don't start.
>>
>> -Jonathan
>>
>> >
>> > 486dx, of course.
>> >
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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[Billy Stiltner]

sounds like lemmings

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Jonathan Wilkes  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: Mathieu Bouchard 
> > To: Billy Stiltner 
> > Cc: pd_list Listserve 
> > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 6:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?
> >
> > Le 2012-03-02 à 17:37:00, Billy Stiltner a écrit :
> >
> >>  you should be able to get a 486 on a pinhead these days
> >
> > How many 486 can dance on the head of a pin ?
> >
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F
>
> Until no more angels can fit on the pin, send more angels to the head of
> the pin.
>
> When you're done, stop.
>
> But most importantly-- if you can't stop, don't start.
>
> -Jonathan
>
> >
> > 486dx, of course.
> >
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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[Jonathan Wilkes]

- Original Message -
> From: Mathieu Bouchard 
> To: Billy Stiltner 
> Cc: pd_list Listserve 
> Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?
> 
> Le 2012-03-02 à 17:37:00, Billy Stiltner a écrit :
> 
>>  you should be able to get a 486 on a pinhead these days
> 
> How many 486 can dance on the head of a pin ?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F

Until no more angels can fit on the pin, send more angels to the head of the 
pin.

When you're done, stop.

But most importantly-- if you can't stop, don't start.

-Jonathan

> 
> 486dx, of course.
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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[Billy Stiltner]

Well the fixed point shifting might cause some dropouts :)

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Mathieu Bouchard  wrote:

> Le 2012-03-02 à 17:37:00, Billy Stiltner a écrit :
>
>
>  you should be able to get a 486 on a pinhead these days
>>
>
> How many 486 can dance on the head of a pin ?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**How_many_angels_can_dance_on_**
> the_head_of_a_pin%3F
>
> 486dx, of course.
>
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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[Mathieu Bouchard]

Le 2012-03-02 à 17:37:00, Billy Stiltner a écrit :


you should be able to get a 486 on a pinhead these days


How many 486 can dance on the head of a pin ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F

486dx, of course.

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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[Billy Stiltner]

hey

with  a soundblaster a 486 dx66 was capable of realtime audio if all you
are running is your audio application. the problem was multitrack storage
space. you should be able to get a 486 on a pinhead these days but there
are some tiny cheap systems that should be easy to make a pd stompbox.
thats what pd is for anyways right its like the star trek communicator
software but for guitars right. hahah
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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[mark edward grimm]

> I suggest a PDP-11/34, the state-of-the-art in miniaturisation.

Only if it runs the new Windows. Because that's what I need the guy at Best Buy 
told me so.



On Mar 2, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Mathieu Bouchard  wrote:

> Le 2012-03-02 à 13:51:00, m.e.grimm a écrit :
> 
>> i guess i will have to buy a computer too then. walmart is on my way home.
> 
> I suggest a PDP-11/34, the state-of-the-art in miniaturisation.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/39042368@N04/5807719935/sizes/l/in/photostream/
> 
> Doesn't even fill the rack !
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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[Mathieu Bouchard]

Le 2012-03-02 à 13:51:00, m.e.grimm a écrit :


i guess i will have to buy a computer too then. walmart is on my way home.


I suggest a PDP-11/34, the state-of-the-art in miniaturisation.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/39042368@N04/5807719935/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Doesn't even fill the rack !

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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

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> You can already get all the bad music you want on Youtube.

i guess i will have to buy a computer too then. walmart is on my way home.

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Mathieu Bouchard  wrote:
> Le 2012-03-02 à 13:40:00, m.e.grimm a écrit :
>
>
>> yes. you are completely right. i am going to go buy myself a television
>> right now to remedy the situation.
>
>
> You can already get all the bad music you want on Youtube.
>
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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[Mathieu Bouchard]

Le 2012-03-02 à 13:40:00, m.e.grimm a écrit :

yes. you are completely right. i am going to go buy myself a television 
right now to remedy the situation.


You can already get all the bad music you want on Youtube.

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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[m.e.grimm]

> It mostly just informs us that you are underexposed to bad music to the
> point where you can't distinguish plain boring music from something worse
> than just boring.

yes. you are completely right. i am going to go buy myself a
television right now to remedy the situation.


On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Mathieu Bouchard  wrote:
> Le 2012-03-02 à 12:27:00, m.e.grimm a écrit :
>
>
>> http://www.parallax.com/Portals/0/Downloads/mm/audio/Coyote1%20Demo.mp3
>> worst music ever.
>
>
> You need not inform us that you found out that it is.
>
> It mostly just informs us that you are underexposed to bad music to the
> point where you can't distinguish plain boring music from something worse
> than just boring.
>
>  http://museumofbadart.org/coll1/image01.jpg
>
> But to me, there is very little difference of excitement between this mp3's
> music and most electroacoustic music, though for completely different
> reasons.
>
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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[Mathieu Bouchard]

Le 2012-03-02 à 12:27:00, m.e.grimm a écrit :


http://www.parallax.com/Portals/0/Downloads/mm/audio/Coyote1%20Demo.mp3
worst music ever.


You need not inform us that you found out that it is.

It mostly just informs us that you are underexposed to bad music to the 
point where you can't distinguish plain boring music from something worse 
than just boring.


  http://museumofbadart.org/coll1/image01.jpg

But to me, there is very little difference of excitement between this 
mp3's music and most electroacoustic music, though for completely 
different reasons.


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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[Pierre Massat]

As far as I know current mobile devices aren't capable of near real-time
latency, nor are they equiped to capture audio from a guitar.

Pierre

2012/3/2 m.e.grimm 

> http://www.parallax.com/Portals/0/Downloads/mm/audio/Coyote1%20Demo.mp3
>
> worst music ever.
>
> > small adc/dac. I don't think that the necessary hardware is available
> right
> > now
>
> if this can be done on mobile devises right now (rjdj/libpd/etc)
> why not now?
>
> >(or at least affordable).
>
> well thats true ... but who has any money right now anyway!
>
> anyway... again my fantasy. chaining PD pedals up like this would be
> pretty sick:
> http://openstomp.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Build5.JPG
>
>
> m
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Pierre Massat  wrote:
> > It doesn't seem to have had much success... Listening to the few sound
> > samples on the web I can understand why. Technically it looks like a
> > brilliant achievement, but he seems to have written and designed
> everything
> > by himself, and his software is probably nowhere as powerful and
> felxible as
> > Pd.
> >
> > The issue with Pd is that building such a pedal would require a small
> > computer with a fast CPU for real-time processing, as well as an equally
> > small adc/dac. I don't think that the necessary hardware is available
> right
> > now (or at least affordable).
> >
> > I think I'll have to stick to the old laptop+soundcard+footcontroller
> setup
> > for some more time (http://guitarextended.wordpress.com)!
> >
> >
> > Pierre.
> >
> >
> > 2012/3/1 Pierre Massat 
> >>
> >> Holy shoot, I've been wanting to build something similar for years!
> >>
> >> Pierre
> >>
> >> 2012/3/1 m.e.grimm 
> >>
> >>> has anyone seen this:
> >>>
> >>> http://openstomp.com
> >>>
> >>> my fantasy would be such a thing that would run PD patches.
> >>>
> >>> it would have to be quality and made of metal
> >>>
> >>> not shitty and made of plastic
> >>>
> >>> i think hardoff had mentioned something similar a bit back maybe
> >>> easier now with libpd?
> >>>
> >>> if someone makes it ill buy one
> >>>
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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[m.e.grimm]

http://www.parallax.com/Portals/0/Downloads/mm/audio/Coyote1%20Demo.mp3

worst music ever.

> small adc/dac. I don't think that the necessary hardware is available right
> now

if this can be done on mobile devises right now (rjdj/libpd/etc)
why not now?

>(or at least affordable).

well thats true ... but who has any money right now anyway!

anyway... again my fantasy. chaining PD pedals up like this would be
pretty sick:
http://openstomp.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Build5.JPG


m



On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Pierre Massat  wrote:
> It doesn't seem to have had much success... Listening to the few sound
> samples on the web I can understand why. Technically it looks like a
> brilliant achievement, but he seems to have written and designed everything
> by himself, and his software is probably nowhere as powerful and felxible as
> Pd.
>
> The issue with Pd is that building such a pedal would require a small
> computer with a fast CPU for real-time processing, as well as an equally
> small adc/dac. I don't think that the necessary hardware is available right
> now (or at least affordable).
>
> I think I'll have to stick to the old laptop+soundcard+footcontroller setup
> for some more time (http://guitarextended.wordpress.com)!
>
>
> Pierre.
>
>
> 2012/3/1 Pierre Massat 
>>
>> Holy shoot, I've been wanting to build something similar for years!
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>> 2012/3/1 m.e.grimm 
>>
>>> has anyone seen this:
>>>
>>> http://openstomp.com
>>>
>>> my fantasy would be such a thing that would run PD patches.
>>>
>>> it would have to be quality and made of metal
>>>
>>> not shitty and made of plastic
>>>
>>> i think hardoff had mentioned something similar a bit back maybe
>>> easier now with libpd?
>>>
>>> if someone makes it ill buy one
>>>
>>> m
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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[Pierre Massat]

It doesn't seem to have had much success... Listening to the few sound
samples on the web I can understand why. Technically it looks like a
brilliant achievement, but he seems to have written and designed everything
by himself, and his software is probably nowhere as powerful and felxible
as Pd.

The issue with Pd is that building such a pedal would require a small
computer with a fast CPU for real-time processing, as well as an equally
small adc/dac. I don't think that the necessary hardware is available right
now (or at least affordable).

I think I'll have to stick to the old laptop+soundcard+footcontroller setup
for some more time (http://guitarextended.wordpress.com)!


Pierre.

2012/3/1 Pierre Massat 

> Holy shoot, I've been wanting to build something similar for years!
>
> Pierre
>
> 2012/3/1 m.e.grimm 
>
> has anyone seen this:
>>
>> http://openstomp.com
>>
>> my fantasy would be such a thing that would run PD patches.
>>
>> it would have to be quality and made of metal
>>
>> not shitty and made of plastic
>>
>> i think hardoff had mentioned something similar a bit back maybe
>> easier now with libpd?
>>
>> if someone makes it ill buy one
>>
>> m
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Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[Pierre Massat]

Holy shoot, I've been wanting to build something similar for years!

Pierre

2012/3/1 m.e.grimm 

> has anyone seen this:
>
> http://openstomp.com
>
> my fantasy would be such a thing that would run PD patches.
>
> it would have to be quality and made of metal
>
> not shitty and made of plastic
>
> i think hardoff had mentioned something similar a bit back maybe
> easier now with libpd?
>
> if someone makes it ill buy one
>
> m
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[PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?

[m.e.grimm]

has anyone seen this:

http://openstomp.com

my fantasy would be such a thing that would run PD patches.

it would have to be quality and made of metal

not shitty and made of plastic

i think hardoff had mentioned something similar a bit back maybe
easier now with libpd?

if someone makes it ill buy one

m

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