[PD] [PD-announce] Origination and Metacreation: a conversation with Ben Bogart

2011-09-08 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Dear all,

it's with great pleasure that I share with you this piece.
I had an inspiring, in-depth conversation with artist and fellow Pd'er Ben
Bogart over the last months, and this is the result:

http://vagueterrain.net/content/2011/09/origination-and-metacreation-conversation-ben-bogart

Tags: MAM, creativity, machine imagination, innovation+open source,
techno-cultural methodology, awareness+ubiquitous computing, tech
distribution,

Thanks Ben, Greg @VT,
best wishes,

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Marco Donnarumma
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ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
The University of Edinburgh, UK
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Origination and Metacreation: a conversation with Ben Bogart

2011-09-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote:

Dear all, it's with great pleasure that I share with you this piece. I 
had an inspiring, in-depth conversation with artist and fellow Pd'er Ben 
Bogart over the last months, and this is the result:


« Rational and creative thought are two extremes of a single process.  
Rational associations involve activations of few memories in very focused 
directions, while creative associations involve the activation of many 
memories in many different directions. »


Oh, so THAT's what creativity means !

Why is it called creative, if one can create new thoughts and new things 
from rational thought, especially thoughts and things that so-called 
«creative» thought can't come up with ?


Fortunately, that kind of jargon isn't used in the actual MSc thesis. I 
mean, the word creative is not used in the same way, especially as the 
word «rational» doesn't appear at all.


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Origination and Metacreation: a conversation with Ben Bogart

2011-09-11 Thread András Murányi
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 20:38, Mathieu Bouchard  wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
>
>  Dear all, it's with great pleasure that I share with you this piece. I had
>> an inspiring, in-depth conversation with artist and fellow Pd'er Ben Bogart
>> over the last months, and this is the result:
>>
>
> « Rational and creative thought are two extremes of a single process.
> Rational associations involve activations of few memories in very focused
> directions, while creative associations involve the activation of many
> memories in many different directions. »
>
> Oh, so THAT's what creativity means !
>
> Why is it called creative, if one can create new thoughts and new things
> from rational thought, especially thoughts and things that so-called
> «creative» thought can't come up with ?
>
> Fortunately, that kind of jargon isn't used in the actual MSc thesis. I
> mean, the word creative is not used in the same way, especially as the word
> «rational» doesn't appear at all.
>
>

Well, I'm not academic and I'm also rather careful with dualist ideas,
however, instead of creative vs rational, which are, least to say, not
mutually exclusive, I usually use inductive vs deductive. Maybe that's what
you mean too - maybe not...

Andras
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Origination and Metacreation: a conversation with Ben Bogart

2011-09-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, András Murányi wrote:

Well, I'm not academic and I'm also rather careful with dualist ideas, 
however, instead of creative vs rational, which are, least to say, not 
mutually exclusive, I usually use inductive vs deductive. Maybe that's 
what you mean too


Sounds like it :)

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