Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdpedia is back!
Hi Hans! everything working great also in italian... best Marco - Original Message Follows - From: Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD-announce] [PD] pdpedia is back! Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:30:22 +0200 > Hola Hans ! > > It seems to work nice for french version. > ++ > > Jack > > > Le 10 juil. 08 à 21:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > > > > > After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is > > back! Please let me know if it isn't working for you: > > > > http://pdpedia.org > > > > .hc > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > > > "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity > > , but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit > > those who profit from scarcity."-John Gilmore > > > > > > > > ___ > > Pd-announce mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > > > > ___ > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list > > > ___ > Pd-announce mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdpedia is back!
On Jul 15, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Ico Doornekamp wrote: > > > * On 2008-07-15 Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >> >> On Jul 13, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Ico Doornekamp wrote: >>> >>> * On 2008-07-11 Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:05 AM, Ico Doornekamp wrote: > > * On July 11th, Hans-Christoph Steiner Wrote > >> After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back! >> Please >> let me know if it isn't working for you: > > Works fine, although the wiki seems to be under the attack of > spammers > already: a lot of pages have been replaced with links, spam and > other > gibberish. > > I know some of the tricks how to avoid this in mediawiki, drop > me a > private mail if you're interested. Here's some of wikipedia/mediawiki's advice: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anti-spam_features >>> >>> I recommend the ConfirmEdit plugin (which is also listed on the >>> above >>> page) using only the 'addurl' and 'createaccount' triggers. This >>> requires the user to fill out a captha when adding new links to a >>> page >>> or when creating a new account, while editing of regular content >>> is not >>> affected. On a mediawiki page I administer this plugin was able >>> to keep >>> out the >200 spam edits which were performed every day. >> >> That one sounds rational. How long have you been using it? > > Since august last year, and fortunately not a single spam or vandalism > since. We also run the 'SpamBlacklist' plugin, but this one was not > able > to keep out the spam on its own. > >> I am sure that many anti-spam techniques will reduce spam in the >> short >> run. The trick is to make sure that the spammers don't then shift to >> some other kind of spamming which is more work to manage, like >> creating accounts. > > Indeed. Our wiki used to be configured to only allow edits from logged > in people, and all the vandalism was done through logged-in accounts. > This why having a captcha for creating accounts might help as well. > > I see in the pdpedia 'recent changes' page that most of the spam is > confined to two or three pages only, but it still messes up the > history > overview and makes it unreadable because of the tens of edits per day. Previously, it was really easy to delete all of the spams, so they weren't in the history anymore. But it seems my 'delete' tab has disappeared. Can anyone else delete the spam, or perhaps something has changed in the mediawiki config since the OS upgrade fiasco. > Another question on the wiki: as a PD newcomer, one of the things I'm > looking for is a more or less 'formal' description for each module's > parameters, inputs and outputs. Most of the help pages have a short > description and some example of a modules usage, but there does not > seem > to be a single structural way to describe each module. Would it be an > idea to define some templates and examples for this purpose and ask > the > users of the wiki to use this to describe modules ? Yes, that's definitely what we are trying to do with pdpedia. If you want to take the lead on that, please do! .hc > > Ico > > -- > :wq > ^X^Cy^K^X^C^C^C^C > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdpedia is back!
* On 2008-07-15 Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > > On Jul 13, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Ico Doornekamp wrote: >> >> * On 2008-07-11 Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >>> >>> On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:05 AM, Ico Doornekamp wrote: * On July 11th, Hans-Christoph Steiner Wrote > After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back! > Please > let me know if it isn't working for you: Works fine, although the wiki seems to be under the attack of spammers already: a lot of pages have been replaced with links, spam and other gibberish. I know some of the tricks how to avoid this in mediawiki, drop me a private mail if you're interested. >>> >>> Here's some of wikipedia/mediawiki's advice: >>> >>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anti-spam_features >> >> I recommend the ConfirmEdit plugin (which is also listed on the above >> page) using only the 'addurl' and 'createaccount' triggers. This >> requires the user to fill out a captha when adding new links to a page >> or when creating a new account, while editing of regular content is not >> affected. On a mediawiki page I administer this plugin was able to keep >> out the >200 spam edits which were performed every day. > > That one sounds rational. How long have you been using it? Since august last year, and fortunately not a single spam or vandalism since. We also run the 'SpamBlacklist' plugin, but this one was not able to keep out the spam on its own. > I am sure that many anti-spam techniques will reduce spam in the short > run. The trick is to make sure that the spammers don't then shift to > some other kind of spamming which is more work to manage, like > creating accounts. Indeed. Our wiki used to be configured to only allow edits from logged in people, and all the vandalism was done through logged-in accounts. This why having a captcha for creating accounts might help as well. I see in the pdpedia 'recent changes' page that most of the spam is confined to two or three pages only, but it still messes up the history overview and makes it unreadable because of the tens of edits per day. Another question on the wiki: as a PD newcomer, one of the things I'm looking for is a more or less 'formal' description for each module's parameters, inputs and outputs. Most of the help pages have a short description and some example of a modules usage, but there does not seem to be a single structural way to describe each module. Would it be an idea to define some templates and examples for this purpose and ask the users of the wiki to use this to describe modules ? Ico -- :wq ^X^Cy^K^X^C^C^C^C ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdpedia is back!
On Jul 13, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Ico Doornekamp wrote: > > * On 2008-07-11 Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > >> >> On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:05 AM, Ico Doornekamp wrote: >> >>> >>> * On July 11th, Hans-Christoph Steiner Wrote >>> After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back! Please let me know if it isn't working for you: >>> >>> Works fine, although the wiki seems to be under the attack of >>> spammers >>> already: a lot of pages have been replaced with links, spam and >>> other >>> gibberish. >>> >>> I know some of the tricks how to avoid this in mediawiki, drop me a >>> private mail if you're interested. >> >> Here's some of wikipedia/mediawiki's advice: >> >> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anti-spam_features > > I recommend the ConfirmEdit plugin (which is also listed on the above > page) using only the 'addurl' and 'createaccount' triggers. This > requires the user to fill out a captha when adding new links to a page > or when creating a new account, while editing of regular content is > not > affected. On a mediawiki page I administer this plugin was able to > keep > out the >200 spam edits which were performed every day. That one sounds rational. How long have you been using it? I am sure that many anti-spam techniques will reduce spam in the short run. The trick is to make sure that the spammers don't then shift to some other kind of spamming which is more work to manage, like creating accounts. .hc > > Ico > > -- > :wq > ^X^Cy^K^X^C^C^C^C > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdpedia is back!
* On 2008-07-11 Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > > On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:05 AM, Ico Doornekamp wrote: > >> >> * On July 11th, Hans-Christoph Steiner Wrote >> >>> After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back! Please >>> let me know if it isn't working for you: >> >> Works fine, although the wiki seems to be under the attack of spammers >> already: a lot of pages have been replaced with links, spam and other >> gibberish. >> >> I know some of the tricks how to avoid this in mediawiki, drop me a >> private mail if you're interested. > > Here's some of wikipedia/mediawiki's advice: > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anti-spam_features I recommend the ConfirmEdit plugin (which is also listed on the above page) using only the 'addurl' and 'createaccount' triggers. This requires the user to fill out a captha when adding new links to a page or when creating a new account, while editing of regular content is not affected. On a mediawiki page I administer this plugin was able to keep out the >200 spam edits which were performed every day. Ico -- :wq ^X^Cy^K^X^C^C^C^C ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdpedia is back!
Hola Hans ! It seems to work nice for french version. ++ Jack Le 10 juil. 08 à 21:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > > After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back! Please > let me know if it isn't working for you: > > http://pdpedia.org > > .hc > > -- > -- > > > "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are > deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from > scarcity."-John Gilmore > > > > ___ > Pd-announce mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdpedia is back!
On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:05 AM, Ico Doornekamp wrote: > > * On July 11th, Hans-Christoph Steiner Wrote > >> After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back! Please >> let me know if it isn't working for you: > > Works fine, although the wiki seems to be under the attack of spammers > already: a lot of pages have been replaced with links, spam and other > gibberish. > > I know some of the tricks how to avoid this in mediawiki, drop me a > private mail if you're interested. Here's some of wikipedia/mediawiki's advice: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anti-spam_features .hc > > Ico > > -- > :wq > ^X^Cy^K^X^C^C^C^C > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdpedia is back!
On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:05 AM, Ico Doornekamp wrote: > > * On July 11th, Hans-Christoph Steiner Wrote > >> After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back! Please >> let me know if it isn't working for you: > > Works fine, although the wiki seems to be under the attack of spammers > already: a lot of pages have been replaced with links, spam and other > gibberish. Following the way wikipedia works, I believe it is the least work to delete the spam as it happens. There have been a number of discussions about this, check the archives. > I know some of the tricks how to avoid this in mediawiki, drop me a > private mail if you're interested. Please post this to the list. It would be good to have that discussion here. .hc > > Ico > > -- > :wq > ^X^Cy^K^X^C^C^C^C > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdpedia is back!
* On July 11th, Hans-Christoph Steiner Wrote > After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back! Please > let me know if it isn't working for you: Works fine, although the wiki seems to be under the attack of spammers already: a lot of pages have been replaced with links, spam and other gibberish. I know some of the tricks how to avoid this in mediawiki, drop me a private mail if you're interested. Ico -- :wq ^X^Cy^K^X^C^C^C^C ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] pdpedia is back!
After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back! Please let me know if it isn't working for you: http://pdpedia.org .hc "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity."-John Gilmore ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
