[PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-01-05 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff
Hi List,

I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X PD-extended. The occurs when  
i change an Abstraction, but not the original, but an active  
"instance" of a patch.

Fpr example i have many instances of the same abstraction encapsulated  
in other abstractions.

While patching i decide to change something - for example add an  
outlet - i open the instance change it and try to save it.

PD seems to update all occurring abstractions and meanwhile the  
"parent-window" seems to disappear and it is not possible to save the  
patch anymore...

I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely enough the change is  
saved in the abstraction. but of course it is totally annoying for  
the workflow.


I think i had this issue before and it disappeared in a more recent  
release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel

I am sorry i cannot post an example patch right now, maybe tonight...

For now i would like to ask if anybody is having the same  
problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows under which "subject" it  
might have been saved in the archive..


All the Best and a Happy New Year


Luigi

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Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there an example patch?  I  
have seen some strange behavior that I am trying to track down.

.hc

On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote:

> Hi List,
>
> I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X PD-extended. The occurs when
> i change an Abstraction, but not the original, but an active
> "instance" of a patch.
>
> Fpr example i have many instances of the same abstraction encapsulated
> in other abstractions.
>
> While patching i decide to change something - for example add an
> outlet - i open the instance change it and try to save it.
>
> PD seems to update all occurring abstractions and meanwhile the
> "parent-window" seems to disappear and it is not possible to save the
> patch anymore...
>
> I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely enough the change is
> saved in the abstraction. but of course it is totally annoying for
> the workflow.
>
>
> I think i had this issue before and it disappeared in a more recent
> release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel
>
> I am sorry i cannot post an example patch right now, maybe tonight...
>
> For now i would like to ask if anybody is having the same
> problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows under which "subject" it
> might have been saved in the archive..
>
>
> All the Best and a Happy New Year
>
>
> Luigi
>
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Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Ok, I get that too.  First thing I notice is that some connections are  
failing.  It looks like perhaps drum_module.pd used to have two  
outlets, but now it does not.  Does this happen for you?  Does this  
trigger the bug?

drummer_main.pd 48 0 0 0 (canvas->message) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 49 0 42 0 (canvas->message) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 50 0 32 0 (canvas->message) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 50 1 34 0 (canvas->message) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 50 1 22 0 (canvas->unpack) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 51 0 31 0 (canvas->message) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 52 0 26 0 (canvas->unpack) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 52 1 35 0 (canvas->message) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 52 1 45 0 (canvas->unpack) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 53 0 37 0 (canvas->message) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 53 1 36 0 (canvas->message) connection failed

But yes, I get the issue that you are talking about, I'll dig deeper.

.hc

On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote:

> Hi Hans Christian...
>
> All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6
>
> So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd version 0.40.3- 
> extended
> dont know which exact version from the "builds" actually
>
> so here we go:
>
> 1) Unzip the Archive
>
> 2) open "drummer_main"
>
> 3) with "right-click" go inside of "drum_module"
>
> 4) with "right-click" go inside "gg_midi_note"
>
> 5) do any modification
>
> 6) Type "CTRL-S" for save or choose "Save" from the menu
>
>
>
> Hope that helps
>
> would be great to find that bugger
>
> Best Luigi
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>
>>
>> Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there an example  
>> patch?  I have seen some strange behavior that I am trying to track  
>> down.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote:
>>
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>> I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X PD-extended. The occurs  
>>> when
>>> i change an Abstraction, but not the original, but an active
>>> "instance" of a patch.
>>>
>>> Fpr example i have many instances of the same abstraction  
>>> encapsulated
>>> in other abstractions.
>>>
>>> While patching i decide to change something - for example add an
>>> outlet - i open the instance change it and try to save it.
>>>
>>> PD seems to update all occurring abstractions and meanwhile the
>>> "parent-window" seems to disappear and it is not possible to save  
>>> the
>>> patch anymore...
>>>
>>> I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely enough the change is
>>> saved in the abstraction. but of course it is totally annoying  
>>> for
>>> the workflow.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think i had this issue before and it disappeared in a more recent
>>> release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel
>>>
>>> I am sorry i cannot post an example patch right now, maybe  
>>> tonight...
>>>
>>> For now i would like to ask if anybody is having the same
>>> problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows under which "subject"  
>>> it
>>> might have been saved in the archive..
>>>
>>>
>>> All the Best and a Happy New Year
>>>
>>>
>>> Luigi
>>>
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>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how  
>> to realize his wishes.  Now that he can realize them, he must  
>> either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

So the "consistency check failed: canvas_create_editor" also happens  
on Pd-vanilla 0.41-4 but seems to be fixed in 0.42-4.  I checked this  
by copying the contents of "extra" into a Pd-0.42-4.app and running  
your app.  If we can track down the fix, I'll backport it if it is not  
too complicated.

"error: .x6cfc80: no such object" seems to be specific to Pd-extended,  
I think this is related to a bug I've been trying to track down.   
Basically the canvas seems to disappear on the 'pd' side, while the pd- 
gui side it is still there...

.hc

On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote:

> Hi Hans Christian...
>
> All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6
>
> So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd version 0.40.3- 
> extended
> dont know which exact version from the "builds" actually
>
> so here we go:
>
> 1) Unzip the Archive
>
> 2) open "drummer_main"
>
> 3) with "right-click" go inside of "drum_module"
>
> 4) with "right-click" go inside "gg_midi_note"
>
> 5) do any modification
>
> 6) Type "CTRL-S" for save or choose "Save" from the menu
>
>
>
> Hope that helps
>
> would be great to find that bugger
>
> Best Luigi
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>
>>
>> Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there an example  
>> patch?  I have seen some strange behavior that I am trying to track  
>> down.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote:
>>
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>> I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X PD-extended. The occurs  
>>> when
>>> i change an Abstraction, but not the original, but an active
>>> "instance" of a patch.
>>>
>>> Fpr example i have many instances of the same abstraction  
>>> encapsulated
>>> in other abstractions.
>>>
>>> While patching i decide to change something - for example add an
>>> outlet - i open the instance change it and try to save it.
>>>
>>> PD seems to update all occurring abstractions and meanwhile the
>>> "parent-window" seems to disappear and it is not possible to save  
>>> the
>>> patch anymore...
>>>
>>> I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely enough the change is
>>> saved in the abstraction. but of course it is totally annoying  
>>> for
>>> the workflow.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think i had this issue before and it disappeared in a more recent
>>> release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel
>>>
>>> I am sorry i cannot post an example patch right now, maybe  
>>> tonight...
>>>
>>> For now i would like to ask if anybody is having the same
>>> problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows under which "subject"  
>>> it
>>> might have been saved in the archive..
>>>
>>>
>>> All the Best and a Happy New Year
>>>
>>>
>>> Luigi
>>>
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>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how  
>> to realize his wishes.  Now that he can realize them, he must  
>> either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I'm not sure if this is related since I'm running winxp, but I was getting 
about seventeen of the following errors when closing test.pd on pd-vanilla 
0.42-4:
error: .xa22a90: no such object

if I would:
1) open test.pd
2) right-click and open one of the instances of the ds-tgl
3) click the ds in editmode and delete it
4) save and quickly close the abstraction window (takes about 10 seconds)
5) close test.pd without saving (which takes about 5 seconds)

But as you might imagine, putting the ds in its own gop window solved all these 
problems.

-Jonathan

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:

> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> Subject: Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying 
> Abstractions
> To: "Luigi" 
> Cc: "puredata mailing list" 
> Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 4:46 AM
> So the "consistency check failed:
> canvas_create_editor" also happens  
> on Pd-vanilla 0.41-4 but seems to be fixed in 0.42-4.  I
> checked this  
> by copying the contents of "extra" into a
> Pd-0.42-4.app and running  
> your app.  If we can track down the fix, I'll backport
> it if it is not  
> too complicated.
> 
> "error: .x6cfc80: no such object" seems to be
> specific to Pd-extended,  
> I think this is related to a bug I've been trying to
> track down.   
> Basically the canvas seems to disappear on the 'pd'
> side, while the pd- 
> gui side it is still there...
> 
> .hc
> 
> On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote:
> 
> > Hi Hans Christian...
> >
> > All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6
> >
> > So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd
> version 0.40.3- 
> > extended
> > dont know which exact version from the
> "builds" actually
> >
> > so here we go:
> >
> > 1) Unzip the Archive
> >
> > 2) open "drummer_main"
> >
> > 3) with "right-click" go inside of
> "drum_module"
> >
> > 4) with "right-click" go inside
> "gg_midi_note"
> >
> > 5) do any modification
> >
> > 6) Type "CTRL-S" for save or choose
> "Save" from the menu
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope that helps
> >
> > would be great to find that bugger
> >
> > Best Luigi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
> >
> >>
> >> Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there
> an example  
> >> patch?  I have seen some strange behavior that I
> am trying to track  
> >> down.
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi List,
> >>>
> >>> I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X
> PD-extended. The occurs  
> >>> when
> >>> i change an Abstraction, but not the original,
> but an active
> >>> "instance" of a patch.
> >>>
> >>> Fpr example i have many instances of the same
> abstraction  
> >>> encapsulated
> >>> in other abstractions.
> >>>
> >>> While patching i decide to change something -
> for example add an
> >>> outlet - i open the instance change it and try
> to save it.
> >>>
> >>> PD seems to update all occurring abstractions
> and meanwhile the
> >>> "parent-window" seems to disappear
> and it is not possible to save  
> >>> the
> >>> patch anymore...
> >>>
> >>> I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely
> enough the change is
> >>> saved in the abstraction. but of course it
> is totally annoying  
> >>> for
> >>> the workflow.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I think i had this issue before and it
> disappeared in a more recent
> >>> release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel
> >>>
> >>> I am sorry i cannot post an example patch
> right now, maybe  
> >>> tonight...
> >>>
> >>> For now i would like to ask if anybody is
> having the same
> >>> problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows
> under which "subject"  
> >>> it
> >>> might have been saved in the archive..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> All the Best and a Happy New Year
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Luigi
> >>>
> >>>
> _

Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-09 Thread Luigi
No that doesnt mean anything, i just threw away some garbage lying  
around.

Actually the patch does not work in that version



Am 09.02.2009 um 04:13 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:

>
> Ok, I get that too.  First thing I notice is that some connections are
> failing.  It looks like perhaps drum_module.pd used to have two
> outlets, but now it does not.  Does this happen for you?  Does this
> trigger the bug?
>
> drummer_main.pd 48 0 0 0 (canvas->message) connection failed
> drummer_main.pd 49 0 42 0 (canvas->message) connection failed
> drummer_main.pd 50 0 32 0 (canvas->message) connection failed
> drummer_main.pd 50 1 34 0 (canvas->message) connection failed
> drummer_main.pd 50 1 22 0 (canvas->unpack) connection failed
> drummer_main.pd 51 0 31 0 (canvas->message) connection failed
> drummer_main.pd 52 0 26 0 (canvas->unpack) connection failed
> drummer_main.pd 52 1 35 0 (canvas->message) connection failed
> drummer_main.pd 52 1 45 0 (canvas->unpack) connection failed
> drummer_main.pd 53 0 37 0 (canvas->message) connection failed
> drummer_main.pd 53 1 36 0 (canvas->message) connection failed
>
> But yes, I get the issue that you are talking about, I'll dig deeper.
>
> .hc
>
> On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote:
>
>> Hi Hans Christian...
>>
>> All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6
>>
>> So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd version 0.40.3-
>> extended
>> dont know which exact version from the "builds" actually
>>
>> so here we go:
>>
>> 1) Unzip the Archive
>>
>> 2) open "drummer_main"
>>
>> 3) with "right-click" go inside of "drum_module"
>>
>> 4) with "right-click" go inside "gg_midi_note"
>>
>> 5) do any modification
>>
>> 6) Type "CTRL-S" for save or choose "Save" from the menu
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope that helps
>>
>> would be great to find that bugger
>>
>> Best Luigi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>>
>>>
>>> Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there an example
>>> patch?  I have seen some strange behavior that I am trying to track
>>> down.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote:
>>>
 Hi List,

 I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X PD-extended. The occurs
 when
 i change an Abstraction, but not the original, but an active
 "instance" of a patch.

 Fpr example i have many instances of the same abstraction
 encapsulated
 in other abstractions.

 While patching i decide to change something - for example add an
 outlet - i open the instance change it and try to save it.

 PD seems to update all occurring abstractions and meanwhile the
 "parent-window" seems to disappear and it is not possible to save
 the
 patch anymore...

 I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely enough the change is
 saved in the abstraction. but of course it is totally annoying
 for
 the workflow.


 I think i had this issue before and it disappeared in a more recent
 release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel

 I am sorry i cannot post an example patch right now, maybe
 tonight...

 For now i would like to ask if anybody is having the same
 problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows under which "subject"
 it
 might have been saved in the archive..


 All the Best and a Happy New Year


 Luigi

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>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

With Pd-0.42-4 vanilla on Mac OS X 10.5.6/Intel, I can't reproduce  
this.  With Pd-0.41-4 vanilla, I can.  I get one:

error: .x34e4d0: no such object

.hc

On Feb 9, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

> I'm not sure if this is related since I'm running winxp, but I was  
> getting about seventeen of the following errors when closing test.pd  
> on pd-vanilla 0.42-4:
> error: .xa22a90: no such object
>
> if I would:
> 1) open test.pd
> 2) right-click and open one of the instances of the ds-tgl
> 3) click the ds in editmode and delete it
> 4) save and quickly close the abstraction window (takes about 10  
> seconds)
> 5) close test.pd without saving (which takes about 5 seconds)
>
> But as you might imagine, putting the ds in its own gop window  
> solved all these problems.
>
> -Jonathan
>
> --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:
>
>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> Subject: Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when  
>> modifying Abstractions
>> To: "Luigi" 
>> Cc: "puredata mailing list" 
>> Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 4:46 AM
>> So the "consistency check failed:
>> canvas_create_editor" also happens
>> on Pd-vanilla 0.41-4 but seems to be fixed in 0.42-4.  I
>> checked this
>> by copying the contents of "extra" into a
>> Pd-0.42-4.app and running
>> your app.  If we can track down the fix, I'll backport
>> it if it is not
>> too complicated.
>>
>> "error: .x6cfc80: no such object" seems to be
>> specific to Pd-extended,
>> I think this is related to a bug I've been trying to
>> track down.
>> Basically the canvas seems to disappear on the 'pd'
>> side, while the pd-
>> gui side it is still there...
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Hans Christian...
>>>
>>> All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6
>>>
>>> So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd
>> version 0.40.3-
>>> extended
>>> dont know which exact version from the
>> "builds" actually
>>>
>>> so here we go:
>>>
>>> 1) Unzip the Archive
>>>
>>> 2) open "drummer_main"
>>>
>>> 3) with "right-click" go inside of
>> "drum_module"
>>>
>>> 4) with "right-click" go inside
>> "gg_midi_note"
>>>
>>> 5) do any modification
>>>
>>> 6) Type "CTRL-S" for save or choose
>> "Save" from the menu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope that helps
>>>
>>> would be great to find that bugger
>>>
>>> Best Luigi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there
>> an example
>>>> patch?  I have seen some strange behavior that I
>> am trying to track
>>>> down.
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>
>>>>> I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X
>> PD-extended. The occurs
>>>>> when
>>>>> i change an Abstraction, but not the original,
>> but an active
>>>>> "instance" of a patch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fpr example i have many instances of the same
>> abstraction
>>>>> encapsulated
>>>>> in other abstractions.
>>>>>
>>>>> While patching i decide to change something -
>> for example add an
>>>>> outlet - i open the instance change it and try
>> to save it.
>>>>>
>>>>> PD seems to update all occurring abstractions
>> and meanwhile the
>>>>> "parent-window" seems to disappear
>> and it is not possible to save
>>>>> the
>>>>> patch anymore...
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely
>> enough the change is
>>>>> saved in the abstraction. but of course it
>> is totally annoying
>>>>> for
>>>>> the workflow.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think i had this issue before and it
>> disappeared in a more r

Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread Luigi
That means:

the only workaround is to use pd-vanilla for now ??

This leads to anoher question: What is the best way then to use pd- 
vanilla but with the externals and documentation from pd-extended ???

was that discussed before ??

Grüße

Luigi


Am 10.02.2009 um 03:34 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:

>
> With Pd-0.42-4 vanilla on Mac OS X 10.5.6/Intel, I can't reproduce
> this.  With Pd-0.41-4 vanilla, I can.  I get one:
>
> error: .x34e4d0: no such object
>
> .hc
>
> On Feb 9, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure if this is related since I'm running winxp, but I was
>> getting about seventeen of the following errors when closing test.pd
>> on pd-vanilla 0.42-4:
>> error: .xa22a90: no such object
>>
>> if I would:
>> 1) open test.pd
>> 2) right-click and open one of the instances of the ds-tgl
>> 3) click the ds in editmode and delete it
>> 4) save and quickly close the abstraction window (takes about 10
>> seconds)
>> 5) close test.pd without saving (which takes about 5 seconds)
>>
>> But as you might imagine, putting the ds in its own gop window
>> solved all these problems.
>>
>> -Jonathan
>>
>> --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:
>>
>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>> Subject: Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when
>>> modifying Abstractions
>>> To: "Luigi" 
>>> Cc: "puredata mailing list" 
>>> Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 4:46 AM
>>> So the "consistency check failed:
>>> canvas_create_editor" also happens
>>> on Pd-vanilla 0.41-4 but seems to be fixed in 0.42-4.  I
>>> checked this
>>> by copying the contents of "extra" into a
>>> Pd-0.42-4.app and running
>>> your app.  If we can track down the fix, I'll backport
>>> it if it is not
>>> too complicated.
>>>
>>> "error: .x6cfc80: no such object" seems to be
>>> specific to Pd-extended,
>>> I think this is related to a bug I've been trying to
>>> track down.
>>> Basically the canvas seems to disappear on the 'pd'
>>> side, while the pd-
>>> gui side it is still there...
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Hans Christian...
>>>>
>>>> All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6
>>>>
>>>> So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd
>>> version 0.40.3-
>>>> extended
>>>> dont know which exact version from the
>>> "builds" actually
>>>>
>>>> so here we go:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Unzip the Archive
>>>>
>>>> 2) open "drummer_main"
>>>>
>>>> 3) with "right-click" go inside of
>>> "drum_module"
>>>>
>>>> 4) with "right-click" go inside
>>> "gg_midi_note"
>>>>
>>>> 5) do any modification
>>>>
>>>> 6) Type "CTRL-S" for save or choose
>>> "Save" from the menu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope that helps
>>>>
>>>> would be great to find that bugger
>>>>
>>>> Best Luigi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there
>>> an example
>>>>> patch?  I have seen some strange behavior that I
>>> am trying to track
>>>>> down.
>>>>>
>>>>> .hc
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X
>>> PD-extended. The occurs
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> i change an Abstraction, but not the original,
>>> but an active
>>>>>> "instance" of a patch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fpr example i have many instances of the same
>>> abstraction
>>>>>> encapsulated
>>>>>> in other abstractions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While patching i decide to change some

Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

If you run into that bug, then yeah, you need to use 0.42.  There are  
vanilla+libs builds of 0.42 for GNU/Linux.  You might be able to make  
one for Mac OS X, I haven't tried.  Or you can just copy extra and  
docs from Pd-extended.

.hc

On Feb 10, 2009, at 2:57 AM, Luigi wrote:

> That means:
>
> the only workaround is to use pd-vanilla for now ??
>
> This leads to anoher question: What is the best way then to use pd-
> vanilla but with the externals and documentation from pd-extended ???
>
> was that discussed before ??
>
> Grüße
>
> Luigi
>
>
> Am 10.02.2009 um 03:34 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>
>>
>> With Pd-0.42-4 vanilla on Mac OS X 10.5.6/Intel, I can't reproduce
>> this.  With Pd-0.41-4 vanilla, I can.  I get one:
>>
>> error: .x34e4d0: no such object
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure if this is related since I'm running winxp, but I was
>>> getting about seventeen of the following errors when closing test.pd
>>> on pd-vanilla 0.42-4:
>>> error: .xa22a90: no such object
>>>
>>> if I would:
>>> 1) open test.pd
>>> 2) right-click and open one of the instances of the ds-tgl
>>> 3) click the ds in editmode and delete it
>>> 4) save and quickly close the abstraction window (takes about 10
>>> seconds)
>>> 5) close test.pd without saving (which takes about 5 seconds)
>>>
>>> But as you might imagine, putting the ds in its own gop window
>>> solved all these problems.
>>>
>>> -Jonathan
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>> Subject: Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when
>>>> modifying Abstractions
>>>> To: "Luigi" 
>>>> Cc: "puredata mailing list" 
>>>> Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 4:46 AM
>>>> So the "consistency check failed:
>>>> canvas_create_editor" also happens
>>>> on Pd-vanilla 0.41-4 but seems to be fixed in 0.42-4.  I
>>>> checked this
>>>> by copying the contents of "extra" into a
>>>> Pd-0.42-4.app and running
>>>> your app.  If we can track down the fix, I'll backport
>>>> it if it is not
>>>> too complicated.
>>>>
>>>> "error: .x6cfc80: no such object" seems to be
>>>> specific to Pd-extended,
>>>> I think this is related to a bug I've been trying to
>>>> track down.
>>>> Basically the canvas seems to disappear on the 'pd'
>>>> side, while the pd-
>>>> gui side it is still there...
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Hans Christian...
>>>>>
>>>>> All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6
>>>>>
>>>>> So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd
>>>> version 0.40.3-
>>>>> extended
>>>>> dont know which exact version from the
>>>> "builds" actually
>>>>>
>>>>> so here we go:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Unzip the Archive
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) open "drummer_main"
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) with "right-click" go inside of
>>>> "drum_module"
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) with "right-click" go inside
>>>> "gg_midi_note"
>>>>>
>>>>> 5) do any modification
>>>>>
>>>>> 6) Type "CTRL-S" for save or choose
>>>> "Save" from the menu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps
>>>>>
>>>>> would be great to find that bugger
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Luigi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there
>>>> an example
>>>>>> patch?  I have seen some strange behavior that I
>>>> am trying to track
>>>>>> down.
>>>