Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

If you run into that bug, then yeah, you need to use 0.42.  There are  
vanilla+libs builds of 0.42 for GNU/Linux.  You might be able to make  
one for Mac OS X, I haven't tried.  Or you can just copy extra and  
docs from Pd-extended.

.hc

On Feb 10, 2009, at 2:57 AM, Luigi wrote:

 That means:

 the only workaround is to use pd-vanilla for now ??

 This leads to anoher question: What is the best way then to use pd-
 vanilla but with the externals and documentation from pd-extended ???

 was that discussed before ??

 Grüße

 Luigi


 Am 10.02.2009 um 03:34 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:


 With Pd-0.42-4 vanilla on Mac OS X 10.5.6/Intel, I can't reproduce
 this.  With Pd-0.41-4 vanilla, I can.  I get one:

 error: .x34e4d0: no such object

 .hc

 On Feb 9, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

 I'm not sure if this is related since I'm running winxp, but I was
 getting about seventeen of the following errors when closing test.pd
 on pd-vanilla 0.42-4:
 error: .xa22a90: no such object

 if I would:
 1) open test.pd
 2) right-click and open one of the instances of the ds-tgl
 3) click the ds in editmode and delete it
 4) save and quickly close the abstraction window (takes about 10
 seconds)
 5) close test.pd without saving (which takes about 5 seconds)

 But as you might imagine, putting the ds in its own gop window
 solved all these problems.

 -Jonathan

 --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote:

 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org
 Subject: Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when
 modifying Abstractions
 To: Luigi luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de
 Cc: puredata mailing list pd-list@iem.at
 Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 4:46 AM
 So the consistency check failed:
 canvas_create_editor also happens
 on Pd-vanilla 0.41-4 but seems to be fixed in 0.42-4.  I
 checked this
 by copying the contents of extra into a
 Pd-0.42-4.app and running
 your app.  If we can track down the fix, I'll backport
 it if it is not
 too complicated.

 error: .x6cfc80: no such object seems to be
 specific to Pd-extended,
 I think this is related to a bug I've been trying to
 track down.
 Basically the canvas seems to disappear on the 'pd'
 side, while the pd-
 gui side it is still there...

 .hc

 On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote:

 Hi Hans Christian...

 All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6

 So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd
 version 0.40.3-
 extended
 dont know which exact version from the
 builds actually

 so here we go:

 1) Unzip the Archive

 2) open drummer_main

 3) with right-click go inside of
 drum_module

 4) with right-click go inside
 gg_midi_note

 5) do any modification

 6) Type CTRL-S for save or choose
 Save from the menu



 Hope that helps

 would be great to find that bugger

 Best Luigi





 example_consistency.zip



 Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:


 Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there
 an example
 patch?  I have seen some strange behavior that I
 am trying to track
 down.

 .hc

 On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff
 wrote:

 Hi List,

 I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X
 PD-extended. The occurs
 when
 i change an Abstraction, but not the original,
 but an active
 instance of a patch.

 Fpr example i have many instances of the same
 abstraction
 encapsulated
 in other abstractions.

 While patching i decide to change something -
 for example add an
 outlet - i open the instance change it and try
 to save it.

 PD seems to update all occurring abstractions
 and meanwhile the
 parent-window seems to disappear
 and it is not possible to save
 the
 patch anymore...

 I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely
 enough the change is
 saved in the abstraction. but of course it
 is totally annoying
 for
 the workflow.


 I think i had this issue before and it
 disappeared in a more recent
 release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel

 I am sorry i cannot post an example patch
 right now, maybe
 tonight...

 For now i would like to ask if anybody is
 having the same
 problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows
 under which subject
 it
 might have been saved in the archive..


 All the Best and a Happy New Year


 Luigi


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Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread Luigi
That means:

the only workaround is to use pd-vanilla for now ??

This leads to anoher question: What is the best way then to use pd- 
vanilla but with the externals and documentation from pd-extended ???

was that discussed before ??

Grüße

Luigi


Am 10.02.2009 um 03:34 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:


 With Pd-0.42-4 vanilla on Mac OS X 10.5.6/Intel, I can't reproduce
 this.  With Pd-0.41-4 vanilla, I can.  I get one:

 error: .x34e4d0: no such object

 .hc

 On Feb 9, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

 I'm not sure if this is related since I'm running winxp, but I was
 getting about seventeen of the following errors when closing test.pd
 on pd-vanilla 0.42-4:
 error: .xa22a90: no such object

 if I would:
 1) open test.pd
 2) right-click and open one of the instances of the ds-tgl
 3) click the ds in editmode and delete it
 4) save and quickly close the abstraction window (takes about 10
 seconds)
 5) close test.pd without saving (which takes about 5 seconds)

 But as you might imagine, putting the ds in its own gop window
 solved all these problems.

 -Jonathan

 --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote:

 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org
 Subject: Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when
 modifying Abstractions
 To: Luigi luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de
 Cc: puredata mailing list pd-list@iem.at
 Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 4:46 AM
 So the consistency check failed:
 canvas_create_editor also happens
 on Pd-vanilla 0.41-4 but seems to be fixed in 0.42-4.  I
 checked this
 by copying the contents of extra into a
 Pd-0.42-4.app and running
 your app.  If we can track down the fix, I'll backport
 it if it is not
 too complicated.

 error: .x6cfc80: no such object seems to be
 specific to Pd-extended,
 I think this is related to a bug I've been trying to
 track down.
 Basically the canvas seems to disappear on the 'pd'
 side, while the pd-
 gui side it is still there...

 .hc

 On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote:

 Hi Hans Christian...

 All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6

 So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd
 version 0.40.3-
 extended
 dont know which exact version from the
 builds actually

 so here we go:

 1) Unzip the Archive

 2) open drummer_main

 3) with right-click go inside of
 drum_module

 4) with right-click go inside
 gg_midi_note

 5) do any modification

 6) Type CTRL-S for save or choose
 Save from the menu



 Hope that helps

 would be great to find that bugger

 Best Luigi





 example_consistency.zip



 Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:


 Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there
 an example
 patch?  I have seen some strange behavior that I
 am trying to track
 down.

 .hc

 On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff
 wrote:

 Hi List,

 I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X
 PD-extended. The occurs
 when
 i change an Abstraction, but not the original,
 but an active
 instance of a patch.

 Fpr example i have many instances of the same
 abstraction
 encapsulated
 in other abstractions.

 While patching i decide to change something -
 for example add an
 outlet - i open the instance change it and try
 to save it.

 PD seems to update all occurring abstractions
 and meanwhile the
 parent-window seems to disappear
 and it is not possible to save
 the
 patch anymore...

 I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely
 enough the change is
 saved in the abstraction. but of course it
 is totally annoying
 for
 the workflow.


 I think i had this issue before and it
 disappeared in a more recent
 release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel

 I am sorry i cannot post an example patch
 right now, maybe
 tonight...

 For now i would like to ask if anybody is
 having the same
 problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows
 under which subject
 it
 might have been saved in the archive..


 All the Best and a Happy New Year


 Luigi


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Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-09 Thread Luigi
No that doesnt mean anything, i just threw away some garbage lying  
around.

Actually the patch does not work in that version



Am 09.02.2009 um 04:13 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:


 Ok, I get that too.  First thing I notice is that some connections are
 failing.  It looks like perhaps drum_module.pd used to have two
 outlets, but now it does not.  Does this happen for you?  Does this
 trigger the bug?

 drummer_main.pd 48 0 0 0 (canvas-message) connection failed
 drummer_main.pd 49 0 42 0 (canvas-message) connection failed
 drummer_main.pd 50 0 32 0 (canvas-message) connection failed
 drummer_main.pd 50 1 34 0 (canvas-message) connection failed
 drummer_main.pd 50 1 22 0 (canvas-unpack) connection failed
 drummer_main.pd 51 0 31 0 (canvas-message) connection failed
 drummer_main.pd 52 0 26 0 (canvas-unpack) connection failed
 drummer_main.pd 52 1 35 0 (canvas-message) connection failed
 drummer_main.pd 52 1 45 0 (canvas-unpack) connection failed
 drummer_main.pd 53 0 37 0 (canvas-message) connection failed
 drummer_main.pd 53 1 36 0 (canvas-message) connection failed

 But yes, I get the issue that you are talking about, I'll dig deeper.

 .hc

 On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote:

 Hi Hans Christian...

 All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6

 So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd version 0.40.3-
 extended
 dont know which exact version from the builds actually

 so here we go:

 1) Unzip the Archive

 2) open drummer_main

 3) with right-click go inside of drum_module

 4) with right-click go inside gg_midi_note

 5) do any modification

 6) Type CTRL-S for save or choose Save from the menu



 Hope that helps

 would be great to find that bugger

 Best Luigi





 example_consistency.zip



 Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:


 Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there an example
 patch?  I have seen some strange behavior that I am trying to track
 down.

 .hc

 On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote:

 Hi List,

 I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X PD-extended. The occurs
 when
 i change an Abstraction, but not the original, but an active
 instance of a patch.

 Fpr example i have many instances of the same abstraction
 encapsulated
 in other abstractions.

 While patching i decide to change something - for example add an
 outlet - i open the instance change it and try to save it.

 PD seems to update all occurring abstractions and meanwhile the
 parent-window seems to disappear and it is not possible to save
 the
 patch anymore...

 I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely enough the change is
 saved in the abstraction. but of course it is totally annoying
 for
 the workflow.


 I think i had this issue before and it disappeared in a more recent
 release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel

 I am sorry i cannot post an example patch right now, maybe
 tonight...

 For now i would like to ask if anybody is having the same
 problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows under which subject
 it
 might have been saved in the archive..


 All the Best and a Happy New Year


 Luigi

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Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

With Pd-0.42-4 vanilla on Mac OS X 10.5.6/Intel, I can't reproduce  
this.  With Pd-0.41-4 vanilla, I can.  I get one:

error: .x34e4d0: no such object

.hc

On Feb 9, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

 I'm not sure if this is related since I'm running winxp, but I was  
 getting about seventeen of the following errors when closing test.pd  
 on pd-vanilla 0.42-4:
 error: .xa22a90: no such object

 if I would:
 1) open test.pd
 2) right-click and open one of the instances of the ds-tgl
 3) click the ds in editmode and delete it
 4) save and quickly close the abstraction window (takes about 10  
 seconds)
 5) close test.pd without saving (which takes about 5 seconds)

 But as you might imagine, putting the ds in its own gop window  
 solved all these problems.

 -Jonathan

 --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote:

 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org
 Subject: Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when  
 modifying Abstractions
 To: Luigi luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de
 Cc: puredata mailing list pd-list@iem.at
 Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 4:46 AM
 So the consistency check failed:
 canvas_create_editor also happens
 on Pd-vanilla 0.41-4 but seems to be fixed in 0.42-4.  I
 checked this
 by copying the contents of extra into a
 Pd-0.42-4.app and running
 your app.  If we can track down the fix, I'll backport
 it if it is not
 too complicated.

 error: .x6cfc80: no such object seems to be
 specific to Pd-extended,
 I think this is related to a bug I've been trying to
 track down.
 Basically the canvas seems to disappear on the 'pd'
 side, while the pd-
 gui side it is still there...

 .hc

 On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote:

 Hi Hans Christian...

 All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6

 So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd
 version 0.40.3-
 extended
 dont know which exact version from the
 builds actually

 so here we go:

 1) Unzip the Archive

 2) open drummer_main

 3) with right-click go inside of
 drum_module

 4) with right-click go inside
 gg_midi_note

 5) do any modification

 6) Type CTRL-S for save or choose
 Save from the menu



 Hope that helps

 would be great to find that bugger

 Best Luigi





 example_consistency.zip



 Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:


 Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there
 an example
 patch?  I have seen some strange behavior that I
 am trying to track
 down.

 .hc

 On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff
 wrote:

 Hi List,

 I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X
 PD-extended. The occurs
 when
 i change an Abstraction, but not the original,
 but an active
 instance of a patch.

 Fpr example i have many instances of the same
 abstraction
 encapsulated
 in other abstractions.

 While patching i decide to change something -
 for example add an
 outlet - i open the instance change it and try
 to save it.

 PD seems to update all occurring abstractions
 and meanwhile the
 parent-window seems to disappear
 and it is not possible to save
 the
 patch anymore...

 I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely
 enough the change is
 saved in the abstraction. but of course it
 is totally annoying
 for
 the workflow.


 I think i had this issue before and it
 disappeared in a more recent
 release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel

 I am sorry i cannot post an example patch
 right now, maybe
 tonight...

 For now i would like to ask if anybody is
 having the same
 problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows
 under which subject
 it
 might have been saved in the archive..


 All the Best and a Happy New Year


 Luigi


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Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Ok, I get that too.  First thing I notice is that some connections are  
failing.  It looks like perhaps drum_module.pd used to have two  
outlets, but now it does not.  Does this happen for you?  Does this  
trigger the bug?

drummer_main.pd 48 0 0 0 (canvas-message) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 49 0 42 0 (canvas-message) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 50 0 32 0 (canvas-message) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 50 1 34 0 (canvas-message) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 50 1 22 0 (canvas-unpack) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 51 0 31 0 (canvas-message) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 52 0 26 0 (canvas-unpack) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 52 1 35 0 (canvas-message) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 52 1 45 0 (canvas-unpack) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 53 0 37 0 (canvas-message) connection failed
drummer_main.pd 53 1 36 0 (canvas-message) connection failed

But yes, I get the issue that you are talking about, I'll dig deeper.

.hc

On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote:

 Hi Hans Christian...

 All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6

 So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd version 0.40.3- 
 extended
 dont know which exact version from the builds actually

 so here we go:

 1) Unzip the Archive

 2) open drummer_main

 3) with right-click go inside of drum_module

 4) with right-click go inside gg_midi_note

 5) do any modification

 6) Type CTRL-S for save or choose Save from the menu



 Hope that helps

 would be great to find that bugger

 Best Luigi





 example_consistency.zip



 Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:


 Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there an example  
 patch?  I have seen some strange behavior that I am trying to track  
 down.

 .hc

 On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote:

 Hi List,

 I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X PD-extended. The occurs  
 when
 i change an Abstraction, but not the original, but an active
 instance of a patch.

 Fpr example i have many instances of the same abstraction  
 encapsulated
 in other abstractions.

 While patching i decide to change something - for example add an
 outlet - i open the instance change it and try to save it.

 PD seems to update all occurring abstractions and meanwhile the
 parent-window seems to disappear and it is not possible to save  
 the
 patch anymore...

 I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely enough the change is
 saved in the abstraction. but of course it is totally annoying  
 for
 the workflow.


 I think i had this issue before and it disappeared in a more recent
 release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel

 I am sorry i cannot post an example patch right now, maybe  
 tonight...

 For now i would like to ask if anybody is having the same
 problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows under which subject  
 it
 might have been saved in the archive..


 All the Best and a Happy New Year


 Luigi

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Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

So the consistency check failed: canvas_create_editor also happens  
on Pd-vanilla 0.41-4 but seems to be fixed in 0.42-4.  I checked this  
by copying the contents of extra into a Pd-0.42-4.app and running  
your app.  If we can track down the fix, I'll backport it if it is not  
too complicated.

error: .x6cfc80: no such object seems to be specific to Pd-extended,  
I think this is related to a bug I've been trying to track down.   
Basically the canvas seems to disappear on the 'pd' side, while the pd- 
gui side it is still there...

.hc

On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote:

 Hi Hans Christian...

 All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6

 So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd version 0.40.3- 
 extended
 dont know which exact version from the builds actually

 so here we go:

 1) Unzip the Archive

 2) open drummer_main

 3) with right-click go inside of drum_module

 4) with right-click go inside gg_midi_note

 5) do any modification

 6) Type CTRL-S for save or choose Save from the menu



 Hope that helps

 would be great to find that bugger

 Best Luigi





 example_consistency.zip



 Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:


 Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there an example  
 patch?  I have seen some strange behavior that I am trying to track  
 down.

 .hc

 On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote:

 Hi List,

 I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X PD-extended. The occurs  
 when
 i change an Abstraction, but not the original, but an active
 instance of a patch.

 Fpr example i have many instances of the same abstraction  
 encapsulated
 in other abstractions.

 While patching i decide to change something - for example add an
 outlet - i open the instance change it and try to save it.

 PD seems to update all occurring abstractions and meanwhile the
 parent-window seems to disappear and it is not possible to save  
 the
 patch anymore...

 I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely enough the change is
 saved in the abstraction. but of course it is totally annoying  
 for
 the workflow.


 I think i had this issue before and it disappeared in a more recent
 release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel

 I am sorry i cannot post an example patch right now, maybe  
 tonight...

 For now i would like to ask if anybody is having the same
 problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows under which subject  
 it
 might have been saved in the archive..


 All the Best and a Happy New Year


 Luigi

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Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I'm not sure if this is related since I'm running winxp, but I was getting 
about seventeen of the following errors when closing test.pd on pd-vanilla 
0.42-4:
error: .xa22a90: no such object

if I would:
1) open test.pd
2) right-click and open one of the instances of the ds-tgl
3) click the ds in editmode and delete it
4) save and quickly close the abstraction window (takes about 10 seconds)
5) close test.pd without saving (which takes about 5 seconds)

But as you might imagine, putting the ds in its own gop window solved all these 
problems.

-Jonathan

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote:

 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org
 Subject: Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying 
 Abstractions
 To: Luigi luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de
 Cc: puredata mailing list pd-list@iem.at
 Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 4:46 AM
 So the consistency check failed:
 canvas_create_editor also happens  
 on Pd-vanilla 0.41-4 but seems to be fixed in 0.42-4.  I
 checked this  
 by copying the contents of extra into a
 Pd-0.42-4.app and running  
 your app.  If we can track down the fix, I'll backport
 it if it is not  
 too complicated.
 
 error: .x6cfc80: no such object seems to be
 specific to Pd-extended,  
 I think this is related to a bug I've been trying to
 track down.   
 Basically the canvas seems to disappear on the 'pd'
 side, while the pd- 
 gui side it is still there...
 
 .hc
 
 On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote:
 
  Hi Hans Christian...
 
  All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6
 
  So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd
 version 0.40.3- 
  extended
  dont know which exact version from the
 builds actually
 
  so here we go:
 
  1) Unzip the Archive
 
  2) open drummer_main
 
  3) with right-click go inside of
 drum_module
 
  4) with right-click go inside
 gg_midi_note
 
  5) do any modification
 
  6) Type CTRL-S for save or choose
 Save from the menu
 
 
 
  Hope that helps
 
  would be great to find that bugger
 
  Best Luigi
 
 
 
 
 
  example_consistency.zip
 
 
 
  Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
 
 
  Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there
 an example  
  patch?  I have seen some strange behavior that I
 am trying to track  
  down.
 
  .hc
 
  On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff
 wrote:
 
  Hi List,
 
  I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X
 PD-extended. The occurs  
  when
  i change an Abstraction, but not the original,
 but an active
  instance of a patch.
 
  Fpr example i have many instances of the same
 abstraction  
  encapsulated
  in other abstractions.
 
  While patching i decide to change something -
 for example add an
  outlet - i open the instance change it and try
 to save it.
 
  PD seems to update all occurring abstractions
 and meanwhile the
  parent-window seems to disappear
 and it is not possible to save  
  the
  patch anymore...
 
  I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely
 enough the change is
  saved in the abstraction. but of course it
 is totally annoying  
  for
  the workflow.
 
 
  I think i had this issue before and it
 disappeared in a more recent
  release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel
 
  I am sorry i cannot post an example patch
 right now, maybe  
  tonight...
 
  For now i would like to ask if anybody is
 having the same
  problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows
 under which subject  
  it
  might have been saved in the archive..
 
 
  All the Best and a Happy New Year
 
 
  Luigi
 
 
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[PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-01-05 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff
Hi List,

I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X PD-extended. The occurs when  
i change an Abstraction, but not the original, but an active  
instance of a patch.

Fpr example i have many instances of the same abstraction encapsulated  
in other abstractions.

While patching i decide to change something - for example add an  
outlet - i open the instance change it and try to save it.

PD seems to update all occurring abstractions and meanwhile the  
parent-window seems to disappear and it is not possible to save the  
patch anymore...

I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely enough the change is  
saved in the abstraction. but of course it is totally annoying for  
the workflow.


I think i had this issue before and it disappeared in a more recent  
release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel

I am sorry i cannot post an example patch right now, maybe tonight...

For now i would like to ask if anybody is having the same  
problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows under which subject it  
might have been saved in the archive..


All the Best and a Happy New Year


Luigi

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