Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-09-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2011-08-31 23:04, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
 On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Tyler Leavitt wrote:
 
 I was curious if anybody has dabbled in controlling a printer through
 pd. I'm waiting for a cheap one to arrive at the local second-hand
 store, so while I wait to attempt it myself I thought I'd ask the list.
 
 If using a Parallel Port (LPT) interface on Linux, there's

if using parallel port (LPT) on linux or windows, you could try zexy's
[lpt].

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Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-09-01 Thread Georg Bosch


Am 01.09.2011 um 00:54 schrieb Martin Peach:
Yes I started out with a knockoff Apple][ and later I found an Apple  
printer with a serial (RS422) connection. After that I somehow  
acquired a Samsung dot-matrix which had the serial port feature.  
Then it was a question of finding the manuals where the graphics  
protocol was described and ultimately I could use both as plotters.  
I still have some of the printouts but the machines are all long gone.




I used Max on a old mac with serial ports to drive a imagewriter and a  
NEC 24 pin printer. Though studying the manuals I never managed to  
freely move the head around - it would only do something after  
carriage return. I did intend to write characters, so maybe I didn't  
discover graphics protocol. The NEC had a parallel port and worked  
fine with a parallel to serial adapter I got cheap on ebay.


You might want to look for a pen plotter, too. HPGL is simple to do  
and you can move around with great precision, control speed, and with  
some you even have 2 axis. Plus PD is the pen down command ;) Common  
models that don't crowd your space to much are HP 7574a and Roland dxy*


cheers,
g.

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Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-09-01 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
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On 09/01/2011 07:35 PM, Tyler Leavitt wrote:
 Thanks everybody for the responses what about if I can only find a USB
 printer? Will [hid] work? 

if your printer reports as a hid device, then sure.
there are plenty of buttons on a modern printer, so you might be able to
use it as a joystick.


oh, and please always reply to the list (which i have done now), rather
than sending me private email of general interest.


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[PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Tyler Leavitt
Hello list,

I was curious if anybody has dabbled in controlling a printer through pd.
I'm waiting for a cheap one to arrive at the local second-hand store, so
while I wait to attempt it myself I thought I'd ask the list. Specifically,
I seek to control the location of the printer needle(?) that moves
horizontally. I figured I could attach a slide to it and run a guitar string
under it for some techno-slide music.

Any input appreciated,
Tyler
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Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Martin

Well there are many kinds of printer, so the answer is 'maybe'.
For me the best are the old dot-matrix with the serial connection. If 
you have that you can program the head to go wherever you like.
Otherwise I just rip them open and keep only the rail mechanism and the 
stepper motor that drives the head along the rails. I use an arduino or 
something similar to control the stepper.


Martin

On 31/08/11 04:28 PM, Tyler Leavitt wrote:

Hello list,

I was curious if anybody has dabbled in controlling a printer through 
pd. I'm waiting for a cheap one to arrive at the local second-hand 
store, so while I wait to attempt it myself I thought I'd ask the 
list. Specifically, I seek to control the location of the printer 
needle(?) that moves horizontally. I figured I could attach a slide to 
it and run a guitar string under it for some techno-slide music.


Any input appreciated,
Tyler


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Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Tyler Leavitt wrote:

I was curious if anybody has dabbled in controlling a printer through 
pd. I'm waiting for a cheap one to arrive at the local second-hand 
store, so while I wait to attempt it myself I thought I'd ask the list.


If using a Parallel Port (LPT) interface on Linux, there's [parallelport] 
in GridFlow.


But I only used it for plugging buttons and LEDs directly into the port.

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Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Tyler Leavitt wrote:

I was curious if anybody has dabbled in controlling a printer through pd. 
I'm waiting for a cheap one to arrive at the local second-hand store, so 
while I wait to attempt it myself I thought I'd ask the list.


If using a Parallel Port (LPT) interface on Linux, there's [parallelport] in 
GridFlow.


But I only used it for plugging buttons and LEDs directly into the port.


It's actually named [parallel_port] and the argument is mandatory and 
opens the device immediately or else you get the red dashes.


The help file screenshot is 
http://gridflow.ca/help/parallel_port-help.html


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Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Martin wrote:


For me the best are the old dot-matrix with the serial connection.


I've never seen an old dot-matrix with a serial connection.

For use with the Color Computer, I had a DIN4 serial port (RS232) 
connected to a box that would reframe the data in 8-bit packets. The box 
was connected to the printer directly by a Centronics36 cable. That was 
something made by hand, by the owner of a small computer shop in the 80's. 
Otherwise, I was limited to printers that supported DIN4, which were a 
4-pen plotter and a 75-dpi CMYK inkjet (!!!).


When I connected dot-matrix printers to PC computers, it was using a 
DB25-to-Centronics36 cable, which was the normal way to do so.


I'm sure that there were RS232 dot matrix printers at one point, but they 
were not common.


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Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Martin Peach

On 2011-08-31 17:56, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Martin wrote:


For me the best are the old dot-matrix with the serial connection.


I've never seen an old dot-matrix with a serial connection.

For use with the Color Computer, I had a DIN4 serial port (RS232)
connected to a box that would reframe the data in 8-bit packets. The box
was connected to the printer directly by a Centronics36 cable. That was
something made by hand, by the owner of a small computer shop in the
80's. Otherwise, I was limited to printers that supported DIN4, which
were a 4-pen plotter and a 75-dpi CMYK inkjet (!!!).

When I connected dot-matrix printers to PC computers, it was using a
DB25-to-Centronics36 cable, which was the normal way to do so.

I'm sure that there were RS232 dot matrix printers at one point, but
they were not common.


Yes I started out with a knockoff Apple][ and later I found an Apple 
printer with a serial (RS422) connection. After that I somehow acquired 
a Samsung dot-matrix which had the serial port feature. Then it was a 
question of finding the manuals where the graphics protocol was 
described and ultimately I could use both as plotters. I still have some 
of the printouts but the machines are all long gone.
Nowadays USB printers seem to be in every trash pile, a good source for 
motors, optical sensors and 24V power supplies.


Martin

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Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Dan Wilcox
How about this? 
http://www.amazon.com/Type-Male-Centronics-CN36-Printer/dp/B000I996M6

On Aug 31, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

 On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Martin wrote:
 
 For me the best are the old dot-matrix with the serial connection.
 
 I've never seen an old dot-matrix with a serial connection.
 
 For use with the Color Computer, I had a DIN4 serial port (RS232) connected 
 to a box that would reframe the data in 8-bit packets. The box was connected 
 to the printer directly by a Centronics36 cable. That was something made by 
 hand, by the owner of a small computer shop in the 80's. Otherwise, I was 
 limited to printers that supported DIN4, which were a 4-pen plotter and a 
 75-dpi CMYK inkjet (!!!).
 
 When I connected dot-matrix printers to PC computers, it was using a 
 DB25-to-Centronics36 cable, which was the normal way to do so.
 
 I'm sure that there were RS232 dot matrix printers at one point, but they 
 were not common.
 
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danomatika.com
robotcowboy.com




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Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Dan Wilcox wrote:


How about 
this? http://www.amazon.com/Type-Male-Centronics-CN36-Printer/dp/B000I996M6


What does it appear as in the computer ?

I bet that you can't use [comport] with that... you'll need 
[parallel_port] (or [parapin])... if you have the driver for LPT-over-USB.


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