Re: [PD] Download Pd?

[Marco Donnarumma]

Hi Andras,
I agree with you, however it seems we both can't deal now with a global
"pimping" of the portal.
So, I would say, let's start working on the download section; this way we
can get familiar with Plone and a further major enhancement would be easier
in the future.

Unless someone here wants to take over the whole thing.

Besides, shall we move on the PdWeb list as IOhannes suggested?
I just subscribed.

M



>
> IMHO, the way to do these things is concept/functions/hierarchy ->
> graphical
> design -> implementation (HTML, CSS, CMS hacking). Concept making has
> already been started as far as i can see, but it's still kind of long way
> to
> actually changing anything general on the website. When we have new
> templates worked out, it won't be so hard to switch them with the current
> ones.
> Of course, small changes can be done anytime, i just think that a bigger
> revamp shall not be started by jumping in the middle of the haystack.
> A voluntary leader for the "pimp up" would be nice...
>
> Andras
>
>

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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

[András Murányi]

IMHO, the way to do these things is concept/functions/hierarchy -> graphical
design -> implementation (HTML, CSS, CMS hacking). Concept making has
already been started as far as i can see, but it's still kind of long way to
actually changing anything general on the website. When we have new
templates worked out, it won't be so hard to switch them with the current
ones.
Of course, small changes can be done anytime, i just think that a bigger
revamp shall not be started by jumping in the middle of the haystack.
A voluntary leader for the "pimp up" would be nice...

Andras

2011/3/9 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> It sounds like a number of people are interested in working on the site.
>  Right now its currently IOhannes and I doing the admin for the most part.
>  In my opinion, I'd like to see some other people take over the website
> stuff, since IOhannes and I already have a lot on our shoulders.  What do
> you think, IOhannes?  There is a certain amount that only IOhannes can do
> since only he has root access to the server itself.
>
> If some of you who spoke up here want to try to get together to make things
> happen, I'll do what I can do support that.
>
> .hc
>
> On Mar 9, 2011, at 11:35 AM, András Murányi wrote:
>
> Not that i'm not lagging with other tasks (build farm... err) but i want to
> offer my HTML/CSS skills to this initiative. I don't know Plone so much but
> I've been converting graphical designs to actual pages since 1993 so just
> tell me when you need it.
>
> Andras
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 16:45, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
>>
>> Ok, great, Marco, thanks for taking this on.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Mar 9, 2011, at 6:28 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
>>
>> Yes, sure.
>> That's what I thought. Dealing with the whole website is a major
>> commitment.
>> Let's start with downloads page, then we'll see.
>>
>> M
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think it should be ok for you to get admin access.  But just to make
>>> sure we are on the same page, we are talking about CSS/template work for
>>> just the downloads page, not the entire site.  If you want to take on
>>> the entire site, that is also possible, but that would mean getting more
>>> people involved.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 18:09 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
>>> > Ok, I'm reading the Plone documentation and as I imagined, it seems I
>>> > do need to be admin to access and modify the css style.
>>> >
>>> > IOhannes, how can we proceed?
>>> > Do I need server access too?
>>> >
>>> > Meantime,
>>> > does anyone want to share their ideas for a better looking style of
>>> > the site?
>>> > (font colors, dimensions, headers, etc, etc...)
>>> >
>>> > M
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Awesome!  I don't know specifically, maybe IOhannes can add
>>> > some
>>> > details, but it should be a fairly standard Plone template
>>> > thing, so
>>> > check the Plone docs.
>>> >
>>> > .hc
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:33 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
>>> > > Hey,
>>> > > I could give the CSS a go...
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > HC what do I need, how can I access the CSS styles?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > M
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat
>>> > 
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > Is IOhannes the only member in charge of maintaining
>>> > the
>>> > > website?
>>> > >
>>> > > 2011/3/8 Husk 00 
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Caio Barros
>>> > >  wrote:
>>> > > > Actually now the left menu and the tabs on
>>> > the top
>>> > > are redundant, and that
>>> > > > scratches my obsessive-compulsive
>>> > disorder.
>>> > > > Since it seems that the left menu is the
>>> > favorite
>>> > > one, maybe dropping the
>>> > > > top tabs should be cosidered.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Caio Barros
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm agree with that.
>>> > > thanks IOhannes for the effort...
>>> > > husk
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > when Art become pratical
>>> > > we call it technology.
>>> > >
>>> > > When Technology become useless
>>> > > we call it Art
>>> > >
>>> > > www.estereotips.net
>>> >   

Re: [PD] Download Pd?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

It sounds like a number of people are interested in working on the  
site.  Right now its currently IOhannes and I doing the admin for the  
most part.  In my opinion, I'd like to see some other people take over  
the website stuff, since IOhannes and I already have a lot on our  
shoulders.  What do you think, IOhannes?  There is a certain amount  
that only IOhannes can do since only he has root access to the server  
itself.


If some of you who spoke up here want to try to get together to make  
things happen, I'll do what I can do support that.


.hc

On Mar 9, 2011, at 11:35 AM, András Murányi wrote:

Not that i'm not lagging with other tasks (build farm... err) but i  
want to offer my HTML/CSS skills to this initiative. I don't know  
Plone so much but I've been converting graphical designs to actual  
pages since 1993 so just tell me when you need it.


Andras

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 16:45, Hans-Christoph Steiner   
wrote:


Ok, great, Marco, thanks for taking this on.

.hc

On Mar 9, 2011, at 6:28 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:


Yes, sure.
That's what I thought. Dealing with the whole website is a major  
commitment.

Let's start with downloads page, then we'll see.

M


On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
 wrote:


I think it should be ok for you to get admin access.  But just to  
make
sure we are on the same page, we are talking about CSS/template  
work for

just the downloads page, not the entire site.  If you want to take on
the entire site, that is also possible, but that would mean getting  
more

people involved.

.hc

On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 18:09 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
> Ok, I'm reading the Plone documentation and as I imagined, it  
seems I

> do need to be admin to access and modify the css style.
>
> IOhannes, how can we proceed?
> Do I need server access too?
>
> Meantime,
> does anyone want to share their ideas for a better looking style of
> the site?
> (font colors, dimensions, headers, etc, etc...)
>
> M
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner >

> wrote:
>
> Awesome!  I don't know specifically, maybe IOhannes can add
> some
> details, but it should be a fairly standard Plone template
> thing, so
> check the Plone docs.
>
> .hc
>
>
> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:33 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
> > Hey,
> > I could give the CSS a go...
> >
> >
> > HC what do I need, how can I access the CSS styles?
> >
> >
> > M
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat
> 
> > wrote:
> > Is IOhannes the only member in charge of  
maintaining

> the
> > website?
> >
> > 2011/3/8 Husk 00 
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Caio  
Barros

> >  wrote:
> > > Actually now the left menu and the  
tabs on

> the top
> > are redundant, and that
> > > scratches my obsessive-compulsive
> disorder.
> > > Since it seems that the left menu is  
the

> favorite
> > one, maybe dropping the
> > > top tabs should be cosidered.
> > >
> > > Caio Barros
> > >
> >
> >
> > I'm agree with that.
> > thanks IOhannes for the effort...
> > husk
> >
> > --
> > when Art become pratical
> > we call it technology.
> >
> > When Technology become useless
> > we call it Art
> >
> > www.estereotips.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ___
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> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marco Donnarumma
> > Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional,
> Performer,
> > Instructor
> > ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
> > The University of Edinburgh, UK
> > ~
> > Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
> > Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net
> | http://www.flxer.net
> > Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Marco Donnarumma
> Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer,
> Instructor
> 

Re: [PD] Download Pd?

[András Murányi]

Not that i'm not lagging with other tasks (build farm... err) but i want to
offer my HTML/CSS skills to this initiative. I don't know Plone so much but
I've been converting graphical designs to actual pages since 1993 so just
tell me when you need it.

Andras

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 16:45, Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:

>
> Ok, great, Marco, thanks for taking this on.
>
> .hc
>
> On Mar 9, 2011, at 6:28 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
>
> Yes, sure.
> That's what I thought. Dealing with the whole website is a major
> commitment.
> Let's start with downloads page, then we'll see.
>
> M
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
>>
>> I think it should be ok for you to get admin access.  But just to make
>> sure we are on the same page, we are talking about CSS/template work for
>> just the downloads page, not the entire site.  If you want to take on
>> the entire site, that is also possible, but that would mean getting more
>> people involved.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 18:09 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
>> > Ok, I'm reading the Plone documentation and as I imagined, it seems I
>> > do need to be admin to access and modify the css style.
>> >
>> > IOhannes, how can we proceed?
>> > Do I need server access too?
>> >
>> > Meantime,
>> > does anyone want to share their ideas for a better looking style of
>> > the site?
>> > (font colors, dimensions, headers, etc, etc...)
>> >
>> > M
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Awesome!  I don't know specifically, maybe IOhannes can add
>> > some
>> > details, but it should be a fairly standard Plone template
>> > thing, so
>> > check the Plone docs.
>> >
>> > .hc
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:33 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
>> > > Hey,
>> > > I could give the CSS a go...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > HC what do I need, how can I access the CSS styles?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > M
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat
>> > 
>> > > wrote:
>> > > Is IOhannes the only member in charge of maintaining
>> > the
>> > > website?
>> > >
>> > > 2011/3/8 Husk 00 
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Caio Barros
>> > >  wrote:
>> > > > Actually now the left menu and the tabs on
>> > the top
>> > > are redundant, and that
>> > > > scratches my obsessive-compulsive
>> > disorder.
>> > > > Since it seems that the left menu is the
>> > favorite
>> > > one, maybe dropping the
>> > > > top tabs should be cosidered.
>> > > >
>> > > > Caio Barros
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I'm agree with that.
>> > > thanks IOhannes for the effort...
>> > > husk
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > when Art become pratical
>> > > we call it technology.
>> > >
>> > > When Technology become useless
>> > > we call it Art
>> > >
>> > > www.estereotips.net
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > ___
>> > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
>> > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
>> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Marco Donnarumma
>> > > Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional,
>> > Performer,
>> > > Instructor
>> > > ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
>> > > The University of Edinburgh, UK
>> > > ~
>> > > Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
>> > > Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net
>> > | http://www.flxer.net
>> > > Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Marco Donnarumma
>> > Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer,
>> > Instructor
>> > ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
>> > The University of Edinburgh, UK
>> > ~
>> > Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
>> > Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net |
>> http://www.flxer.net
>> > Ev

Re: [PD] Download Pd?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Ok, great, Marco, thanks for taking this on.

.hc

On Mar 9, 2011, at 6:28 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:


Yes, sure.
That's what I thought. Dealing with the whole website is a major  
commitment.

Let's start with downloads page, then we'll see.

M


On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
 wrote:


I think it should be ok for you to get admin access.  But just to make
sure we are on the same page, we are talking about CSS/template work  
for

just the downloads page, not the entire site.  If you want to take on
the entire site, that is also possible, but that would mean getting  
more

people involved.

.hc

On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 18:09 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
> Ok, I'm reading the Plone documentation and as I imagined, it  
seems I

> do need to be admin to access and modify the css style.
>
> IOhannes, how can we proceed?
> Do I need server access too?
>
> Meantime,
> does anyone want to share their ideas for a better looking style of
> the site?
> (font colors, dimensions, headers, etc, etc...)
>
> M
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner >

> wrote:
>
> Awesome!  I don't know specifically, maybe IOhannes can add
> some
> details, but it should be a fairly standard Plone template
> thing, so
> check the Plone docs.
>
> .hc
>
>
> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:33 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
> > Hey,
> > I could give the CSS a go...
> >
> >
> > HC what do I need, how can I access the CSS styles?
> >
> >
> > M
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat
> 
> > wrote:
> > Is IOhannes the only member in charge of  
maintaining

> the
> > website?
> >
> > 2011/3/8 Husk 00 
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Caio  
Barros

> >  wrote:
> > > Actually now the left menu and the  
tabs on

> the top
> > are redundant, and that
> > > scratches my obsessive-compulsive
> disorder.
> > > Since it seems that the left menu is the
> favorite
> > one, maybe dropping the
> > > top tabs should be cosidered.
> > >
> > > Caio Barros
> > >
> >
> >
> > I'm agree with that.
> > thanks IOhannes for the effort...
> > husk
> >
> > --
> > when Art become pratical
> > we call it technology.
> >
> > When Technology become useless
> > we call it Art
> >
> > www.estereotips.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ___
> > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd- 
list

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marco Donnarumma
> > Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional,
> Performer,
> > Instructor
> > ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
> > The University of Edinburgh, UK
> > ~
> > Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
> > Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com | http:// 
cntrl.sourceforge.net

> | http://www.flxer.net
> > Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Marco Donnarumma
> Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer,
> Instructor
> ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
> The University of Edinburgh, UK
> ~
> Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
> Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | 
http://www.flxer.net
> Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net






--
Marco Donnarumma
Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer,  
Instructor

ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
The University of Edinburgh, UK
~
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | 
http://www.flxer.net
Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net








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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Mar 9, 2011, at 4:25 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:


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On 2011-03-09 06:07, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


It would be nice to see the website look better, I don't have an  
time to
invest in working on this project.  One easy first step would be to  
make

a mockup of what you are thinking somewhere and post it.



personally, one of the major things in my puredata.info TODO is to
update the plone instance to a newer version of Plone (Plone4 that  
is).


this should make lots of things easier and nicer, but otoh might break
some of the efforts discussed here.
the major drawback is, that this will not happen within the next  
weeks.



fgamsdr
IOhannes


PS: btw, there is a nice low-traffic mailinglist "pdweb" [1] that is
dedicated to the "puredata.info" portal. i suggest to move discussion
about new webskins to this list.


A plone4 upgrade would be awesome and worth putting time into, IMHO.

.hc



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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

[Marco Donnarumma]

Yes, sure.
That's what I thought. Dealing with the whole website is a major
commitment.
Let's start with downloads page, then we'll see.

M


On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

>
> I think it should be ok for you to get admin access.  But just to make
> sure we are on the same page, we are talking about CSS/template work for
> just the downloads page, not the entire site.  If you want to take on
> the entire site, that is also possible, but that would mean getting more
> people involved.
>
> .hc
>
> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 18:09 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
> > Ok, I'm reading the Plone documentation and as I imagined, it seems I
> > do need to be admin to access and modify the css style.
> >
> > IOhannes, how can we proceed?
> > Do I need server access too?
> >
> > Meantime,
> > does anyone want to share their ideas for a better looking style of
> > the site?
> > (font colors, dimensions, headers, etc, etc...)
> >
> > M
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Awesome!  I don't know specifically, maybe IOhannes can add
> > some
> > details, but it should be a fairly standard Plone template
> > thing, so
> > check the Plone docs.
> >
> > .hc
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:33 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
> > > Hey,
> > > I could give the CSS a go...
> > >
> > >
> > > HC what do I need, how can I access the CSS styles?
> > >
> > >
> > > M
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat
> > 
> > > wrote:
> > > Is IOhannes the only member in charge of maintaining
> > the
> > > website?
> > >
> > > 2011/3/8 Husk 00 
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Caio Barros
> > >  wrote:
> > > > Actually now the left menu and the tabs on
> > the top
> > > are redundant, and that
> > > > scratches my obsessive-compulsive
> > disorder.
> > > > Since it seems that the left menu is the
> > favorite
> > > one, maybe dropping the
> > > > top tabs should be cosidered.
> > > >
> > > > Caio Barros
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm agree with that.
> > > thanks IOhannes for the effort...
> > > husk
> > >
> > > --
> > > when Art become pratical
> > > we call it technology.
> > >
> > > When Technology become useless
> > > we call it Art
> > >
> > > www.estereotips.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ___
> > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
> > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Marco Donnarumma
> > > Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional,
> > Performer,
> > > Instructor
> > > ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
> > > The University of Edinburgh, UK
> > > ~
> > > Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
> > > Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net
> > | http://www.flxer.net
> > > Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marco Donnarumma
> > Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer,
> > Instructor
> > ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
> > The University of Edinburgh, UK
> > ~
> > Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
> > Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net |
> http://www.flxer.net
> > Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
>
>
>
>


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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

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> 
> It would be nice to see the website look better, I don't have an time to
> invest in working on this project.  One easy first step would be to make
> a mockup of what you are thinking somewhere and post it.
> 

personally, one of the major things in my puredata.info TODO is to
update the plone instance to a newer version of Plone (Plone4 that is).

this should make lots of things easier and nicer, but otoh might break
some of the efforts discussed here.
the major drawback is, that this will not happen within the next weeks.


fgamsdr
IOhannes


PS: btw, there is a nice low-traffic mailinglist "pdweb" [1] that is
dedicated to the "puredata.info" portal. i suggest to move discussion
about new webskins to this list.


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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

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On Mar 8, 2011, at 11:53 PM, ailo wrote:


On 03/08/2011 07:09 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:

Meantime,
does anyone want to share their ideas for a better looking style of  
the

site?
(font colors, dimensions, headers, etc, etc...)



I think I could help with that. I don't know plone, but I would  
assume it is possible to create personal css styles, if given the  
privilege, no?


If not, what is the best way to do testing?

Also, I think it would make sense to start with the theme that is  
used now, and just make it prettier. One step at the time?

Seems like doing a total revamp would take a lot of resources.



It would be nice to see the website look better, I don't have an time  
to invest in working on this project.  One easy first step would be to  
make a mockup of what you are thinking somewhere and post it.


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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

[ailo]

On 03/08/2011 07:09 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:

Meantime,
does anyone want to share their ideas for a better looking style of the
site?
(font colors, dimensions, headers, etc, etc...)



I think I could help with that. I don't know plone, but I would assume 
it is possible to create personal css styles, if given the privilege, no?


If not, what is the best way to do testing?

Also, I think it would make sense to start with the theme that is used 
now, and just make it prettier. One step at the time?

Seems like doing a total revamp would take a lot of resources.

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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

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On 03/08/2011 07:54 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


I think it should be ok for you to get admin access.  But just to make
sure we are on the same page, we are talking about CSS/template work for
just the downloads page, not the entire site.  If you want to take on
the entire site, that is also possible, but that would mean getting more
people involved.

.hc


It would be nice to pimp up the whole site. I've only been messing 
around a little with that, using pre-made themes as templates. Perhaps 
that could be doable?

Something clean, simple and practical.
I would like to assist in that, if nothing else.

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[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

I think it should be ok for you to get admin access.  But just to make
sure we are on the same page, we are talking about CSS/template work for
just the downloads page, not the entire site.  If you want to take on
the entire site, that is also possible, but that would mean getting more
people involved.

.hc

On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 18:09 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
> Ok, I'm reading the Plone documentation and as I imagined, it seems I
> do need to be admin to access and modify the css style.
> 
> IOhannes, how can we proceed?
> Do I need server access too?
> 
> Meantime,
> does anyone want to share their ideas for a better looking style of
> the site?
> (font colors, dimensions, headers, etc, etc...)
> 
> M
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> wrote:
> 
> Awesome!  I don't know specifically, maybe IOhannes can add
> some
> details, but it should be a fairly standard Plone template
> thing, so
> check the Plone docs.
> 
> .hc
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:33 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
> > Hey,
> > I could give the CSS a go...
> >
> >
> > HC what do I need, how can I access the CSS styles?
> >
> >
> > M
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat
> 
> > wrote:
> > Is IOhannes the only member in charge of maintaining
> the
> > website?
> >
> > 2011/3/8 Husk 00 
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Caio Barros
> >  wrote:
> > > Actually now the left menu and the tabs on
> the top
> > are redundant, and that
> > > scratches my obsessive-compulsive
> disorder.
> > > Since it seems that the left menu is the
> favorite
> > one, maybe dropping the
> > > top tabs should be cosidered.
> > >
> > > Caio Barros
> > >
> >
> >
> > I'm agree with that.
> > thanks IOhannes for the effort...
> > husk
> >
> > --
> > when Art become pratical
> > we call it technology.
> >
> > When Technology become useless
> > we call it Art
> >
> > www.estereotips.net
> >
> >
> >
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> | http://www.flxer.net
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> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

[Marco Donnarumma]

Ok, I'm reading the Plone documentation and as I imagined, it seems I do
need to be admin to access and modify the css style.

IOhannes, how can we proceed?
Do I need server access too?

Meantime,
does anyone want to share their ideas for a better looking style of the
site?
(font colors, dimensions, headers, etc, etc...)

M




On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

>
> Awesome!  I don't know specifically, maybe IOhannes can add some
> details, but it should be a fairly standard Plone template thing, so
> check the Plone docs.
>
> .hc
>
> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:33 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
> > Hey,
> > I could give the CSS a go...
> >
> >
> > HC what do I need, how can I access the CSS styles?
> >
> >
> > M
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat 
> > wrote:
> > Is IOhannes the only member in charge of maintaining the
> > website?
> >
> > 2011/3/8 Husk 00 
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Caio Barros
> >  wrote:
> > > Actually now the left menu and the tabs on the top
> > are redundant, and that
> > > scratches my obsessive-compulsive disorder.
> > > Since it seems that the left menu is the favorite
> > one, maybe dropping the
> > > top tabs should be cosidered.
> > >
> > > Caio Barros
> > >
> >
> >
> > I'm agree with that.
> > thanks IOhannes for the effort...
> > husk
> >
> > --
> > when Art become pratical
> > we call it technology.
> >
> > When Technology become useless
> > we call it Art
> >
> > www.estereotips.net
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> > Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer,
> > Instructor
> > ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
> > The University of Edinburgh, UK
> > ~
> > Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
> > Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net |
> http://www.flxer.net
> > Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
> >
>
>
>
>


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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Awesome!  I don't know specifically, maybe IOhannes can add some
details, but it should be a fairly standard Plone template thing, so
check the Plone docs.

.hc

On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:33 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
> Hey,
> I could give the CSS a go...
> 
> 
> HC what do I need, how can I access the CSS styles?
> 
> 
> M
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat 
> wrote:
> Is IOhannes the only member in charge of maintaining the
> website?
> 
> 2011/3/8 Husk 00 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Caio Barros
>  wrote:
> > Actually now the left menu and the tabs on the top
> are redundant, and that
> > scratches my obsessive-compulsive disorder.
> > Since it seems that the left menu is the favorite
> one, maybe dropping the
> > top tabs should be cosidered.
> >
> > Caio Barros
> >
> 
> 
> I'm agree with that.
> thanks IOhannes for the effort...
> husk
> 
> --
> when Art become pratical
> we call it technology.
> 
> When Technology become useless
> we call it Art
> 
> www.estereotips.net
> 
> 
> 
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> Instructor
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> The University of Edinburgh, UK
> ~
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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

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On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:28 +0100, Husk 00 wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Caio Barros  wrote:
> > Actually now the left menu and the tabs on the top are redundant, and that
> > scratches my obsessive-compulsive disorder.
> > Since it seems that the left menu is the favorite one, maybe dropping the
> > top tabs should be cosidered.
> >
> > Caio Barros
> >
> 
> I'm agree with that.
> thanks IOhannes for the effort...
> husk

They've both been there for a long time, I think this is starting to
sound bikeshed-ish.  If someone really wants to work on the website, it
should be done as a whole project, not just little changes here and
there.

As for admining the website, IOhannes bears the brunt, I do some, as
much as I can via the website.  Others have admin access too.  If people
want to learn some plone and help, I think we can give web admin access
to others as well.

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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

[Marco Donnarumma]

Hey,
I could give the CSS a go...

HC what do I need, how can I access the CSS styles?

M



On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat  wrote:

> Is IOhannes the only member in charge of maintaining the website?
>
> 2011/3/8 Husk 00 
>
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Caio Barros 
>> wrote:
>> > Actually now the left menu and the tabs on the top are redundant, and
>> that
>> > scratches my obsessive-compulsive disorder.
>> > Since it seems that the left menu is the favorite one, maybe dropping
>> the
>> > top tabs should be cosidered.
>> >
>> > Caio Barros
>> >
>>
>> I'm agree with that.
>> thanks IOhannes for the effort...
>> husk
>>
>> --
>> when Art become pratical
>> we call it technology.
>>
>> When Technology become useless
>> we call it Art
>>
>> www.estereotips.net
>>
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> Is IOhannes the only member in charge of maintaining the website?

i think he is the only one with a limited knowledge of plone and zope.
and he is the only one who has filesystem access to the server.


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Is IOhannes the only member in charge of maintaining the website?

2011/3/8 Husk 00 

> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Caio Barros  wrote:
> > Actually now the left menu and the tabs on the top are redundant, and
> that
> > scratches my obsessive-compulsive disorder.
> > Since it seems that the left menu is the favorite one, maybe dropping the
> > top tabs should be cosidered.
> >
> > Caio Barros
> >
>
> I'm agree with that.
> thanks IOhannes for the effort...
> husk
>
> --
> when Art become pratical
> we call it technology.
>
> When Technology become useless
> we call it Art
>
> www.estereotips.net
>
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Caio Barros  wrote:
> Actually now the left menu and the tabs on the top are redundant, and that
> scratches my obsessive-compulsive disorder.
> Since it seems that the left menu is the favorite one, maybe dropping the
> top tabs should be cosidered.
>
> Caio Barros
>

I'm agree with that.
thanks IOhannes for the effort...
husk

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we call it technology.

When Technology become useless
we call it Art

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[Caio Barros]

Actually now the left menu and the tabs on the top are redundant, and that
scratches my obsessive-compulsive disorder.
Since it seems that the left menu is the favorite one, maybe dropping the
top tabs should be cosidered.

Caio Barros

2011/3/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Yes, I think that's good, thanks.  Now we just need someone who can make it
> look good.  Can web/CSS people want to take a stab?  I've tried and I always
> seem to make it worse.
>
> .hc
>
> On Mar 8, 2011, at 6:23 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
>
> That's a good improvement, thanks IOhannes.
>
> M
>
>
>
>
>> > > I would like "Downloads" to point to a page where you only see three
>> > > options (with clear explanation on what each item is about):
>> > > 1. puredata
>> > > 2. pd-extended
>> > > 3. other (http://puredata.info/community/projects/software)
>> >
>> > better now?
>> >
>> > fgmasdr
>> > IOhannes
>>
>
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[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Yes, I think that's good, thanks.  Now we just need someone who can  
make it look good.  Can web/CSS people want to take a stab?  I've  
tried and I always seem to make it worse.


.hc

On Mar 8, 2011, at 6:23 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:


That's a good improvement, thanks IOhannes.

M



> > I would like "Downloads" to point to a page where you only see  
three

> > options (with clear explanation on what each item is about):
> > 1. puredata
> > 2. pd-extended
> > 3. other (http://puredata.info/community/projects/software)
>
> better now?
>
> fgmasdr
> IOhannes

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That's a good improvement, thanks IOhannes.

M




> > > I would like "Downloads" to point to a page where you only see three
> > > options (with clear explanation on what each item is about):
> > > 1. puredata
> > > 2. pd-extended
> > > 3. other (http://puredata.info/community/projects/software)
> >
> > better now?
> >
> > fgmasdr
> > IOhannes
>

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Much better indeed!

2011/3/8 IOhannes m zmoelnig 

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> On 2011-03-06 20:59, ailo wrote:
> > I guess the organization of the site is pretty close to what one would
> > expect it to be, though, some parts do seem a little messy, or outdated
> > (and I know we could all chip in and help organize a little).
> >
> > The download section I think is, if not the 1st most important page,
> > then at least the 2nd.
> > Clarity is always nice. At least for pd and pd-extended it would be
> > great if the download section for those was only one click away. And, I
> > would like it to be even clearer than before, just by glancing at the
> > page, which is pd (vanilla) and which is pd-extended.
> >
> > I would like "Downloads" to point to a page where you only see three
> > options (with clear explanation on what each item is about):
> > 1. puredata
> > 2. pd-extended
> > 3. other (http://puredata.info/community/projects/software)
>
> better now?
>
> fgmasdr
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On 2011-03-06 20:59, ailo wrote:
> I guess the organization of the site is pretty close to what one would
> expect it to be, though, some parts do seem a little messy, or outdated
> (and I know we could all chip in and help organize a little).
> 
> The download section I think is, if not the 1st most important page,
> then at least the 2nd.
> Clarity is always nice. At least for pd and pd-extended it would be
> great if the download section for those was only one click away. And, I
> would like it to be even clearer than before, just by glancing at the
> page, which is pd (vanilla) and which is pd-extended.
> 
> I would like "Downloads" to point to a page where you only see three
> options (with clear explanation on what each item is about):
> 1. puredata
> 2. pd-extended
> 3. other (http://puredata.info/community/projects/software)

better now?

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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

[ailo]

I guess the organization of the site is pretty close to what one would 
expect it to be, though, some parts do seem a little messy, or outdated 
(and I know we could all chip in and help organize a little).


The download section I think is, if not the 1st most important page, 
then at least the 2nd.
Clarity is always nice. At least for pd and pd-extended it would be 
great if the download section for those was only one click away. And, I 
would like it to be even clearer than before, just by glancing at the 
page, which is pd (vanilla) and which is pd-extended.


I would like "Downloads" to point to a page where you only see three 
options (with clear explanation on what each item is about):

1. puredata
2. pd-extended
3. other (http://puredata.info/community/projects/software)

When clicking 1, or 2, you reach a page where you choose which 
package/installer to download to which OS, or a hint that puredata 
already exists in this or that repo.


I like the list of software in 
http://puredata.info/community/projects/software. It looks like a 
beginning of a nice database, which is great, but I don't think puredata 
and pd-extended should only be listed there. Right now it's almost hard 
to find them.



On 03/06/2011 05:11 PM, George Ker wrote:






For starters:
1. Put the download folder back (attached from archive.org from
beginning of January).

2. Don't make the first distribution in the list an alpha release of
library that has no stable release for download.  (Better candidate
would be Pd-ext or Vanilla.)




I'd like that too.

I thought also a generally less clustered site would be also friendly.
thanks for you efforts


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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

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On Mar 4, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:


--- On Sat, 3/5/11, IOhannes m zmölnig  wrote:


From: IOhannes m zmölnig 
Subject: Re: [PD] Download Pd?
To: pd-list@iem.at
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On 03/04/2011 11:53 PM, George Ker wrote:

2011/3/4 Pierre Massat 


I don't need it, i just thought it was

confusing... Perhaps it isn't.




Yes, it is.
When someone asked me what version of Pd should

download and from where last

week, I realised how confusing is this and how

unfriendly for a newcomer.

You have to search to even find the main forum of the

program.

Never mind, no objection intended



do object if you need to.
even better would be to provide constructive critic on how
to improve
what is currently there.


For starters:
1. Put the download folder back (attached from archive.org from
beginning of January).


Yes, I think that's the issue that started this thread.


2. Don't make the first distribution in the list an alpha release of
library that has no stable release for download.  (Better candidate
would be Pd-ext or Vanilla.)


What we need is someone who can do (or learn) the plone templates to  
make a better downloads page a reality.  Can someone take this on?


What I think we need on the new download page is a fusion of the old  
and the 'community/projects' page.  So at the top of the new downloads  
page would be a simple clear link to downloading Pd-extended, since  
its the most newbie friendly distro (that's the aim at least).


.hc




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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

[George Ker]

>
>
>>
>> > For starters:
>> > 1. Put the download folder back (attached from archive.org from
>> > beginning of January).
>> >
>> > 2. Don't make the first distribution in the list an alpha release of
>> > library that has no stable release for download.  (Better candidate
>> > would be Pd-ext or Vanilla.)
>>
>>
I'd like that too.

I thought also a generally less clustered site would be also friendly.
thanks for you efforts


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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

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All the "é" in the digest are usually rendered as "?" here.


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> I use a non-breaking space prior to a question mark, do you see a 2nd
> question mark instead ? How many question marks do you see in my signature ?
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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

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On Sat, 5 Mar 2011, ailo wrote:


I get errors after logging in. Something like:
Site Error
   Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 188, in publish_module_standard


Actually, I do get this error too after logging in, but for the first 
error, I wasn't logged in.


Also, this latter error appears in English only, whereas the first one was 
appearing in French.


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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

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On Sat, 5 Mar 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote:


Working here.


Works now.


Perhaps a temp error on some other server?


It's puredata.info. This only has a single server, doesn't it ?

Btw, your emails report iso-8859-1 support, but quote my mails wrong. When 
I use a non-breaking space prior to a question mark, do you see a 2nd 
question mark instead ? How many question marks do you see in my 
signature ? (there are none)


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[ailo]

I get errors after logging in. Something like:

"
Site Error

An error was encountered while publishing this resource.

KeyError
Sorry, a site error occurred.

Traceback (innermost last):

Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 188, in publish_module_standard
Module Products.PlacelessTranslationService.PatchStringIO, line 34,
in new_publish
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 145, in publish

"
(etc)

On 03/05/2011 11:22 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
> Working here.
> Perhaps a temp error on some other server?
> 
> M
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>
>>> For starters:
>>> 1. Put the download folder back (attached from archive.org from
>>> beginning of January).
>>>
>>> 2. Don't make the first distribution in the list an alpha release of
>>> library that has no stable release for download.  (Better candidate
>>> would be Pd-ext or Vanilla.)
>>
>> I second that?; but also, I clicked on
>> http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/gridflow and got this?:
>>
>> Erreur du site
>>
>> Le site a rencontr? une erreur en essayant de r?pondre ? votre demande :
>>
>> Type de l'erreur
>> KeyError
>> Valeur de l'erreur
>> 20119333
>> Requ?te envoy?e au serveur le
>> 2011/03/05 03:19:10.430 GMT+1
>>
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[Marco Donnarumma]

Working here.
Perhaps a temp error on some other server?

M



> On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>
> > For starters:
> > 1. Put the download folder back (attached from archive.org from
> > beginning of January).
> >
> > 2. Don't make the first distribution in the list an alpha release of
> > library that has no stable release for download.  (Better candidate
> > would be Pd-ext or Vanilla.)
>
> I second that?; but also, I clicked on
> http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/gridflow and got this?:
>
> Erreur du site
>
> Le site a rencontr? une erreur en essayant de r?pondre ? votre demande :
>
> Type de l'erreur
> KeyError
> Valeur de l'erreur
> 20119333
> Requ?te envoy?e au serveur le
> 2011/03/05 03:19:10.430 GMT+1
>
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On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:


For starters:
1. Put the download folder back (attached from archive.org from 
beginning of January).


2. Don't make the first distribution in the list an alpha release of 
library that has no stable release for download.  (Better candidate 
would be Pd-ext or Vanilla.)


I second that ; but also, I clicked on 
http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/gridflow and got this :


Erreur du site

Le site a rencontré une erreur en essayant de répondre à votre demande :

Type de l'erreur
KeyError
Valeur de l'erreur
20119333
Requête envoyée au serveur le
2011/03/05 03:19:10.430 GMT+1

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--- On Sat, 3/5/11, IOhannes m zmölnig  wrote:

> From: IOhannes m zmölnig 
> Subject: Re: [PD] Download Pd?
> To: pd-list@iem.at
> Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 12:10 AM
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> On 03/04/2011 11:53 PM, George Ker wrote:
> > 2011/3/4 Pierre Massat 
> >>
> >> I don't need it, i just thought it was
> confusing... Perhaps it isn't.
> >>
> >>
> > Yes, it is.
> > When someone asked me what version of Pd should
> download and from where last
> > week, I realised how confusing is this and how
> unfriendly for a newcomer.
> > You have to search to even find the main forum of the
> program.
> > Never mind, no objection intended
> > 
> 
> do object if you need to.
> even better would be to provide constructive critic on how
> to improve
> what is currently there.

For starters:
1. Put the download folder back (attached from archive.org from 
beginning of January).

2. Don't make the first distribution in the list an alpha release of 
library that has no stable release for download.  (Better candidate 
would be Pd-ext or Vanilla.)

-Jonathan

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On 03/04/2011 11:53 PM, George Ker wrote:
> 2011/3/4 Pierre Massat 
>>
>> I don't need it, i just thought it was confusing... Perhaps it isn't.
>>
>>
> Yes, it is.
> When someone asked me what version of Pd should download and from where last
> week, I realised how confusing is this and how unfriendly for a newcomer.
> You have to search to even find the main forum of the program.
> Never mind, no objection intended
> 

do object if you need to.
even better would be to provide constructive critic on how to improve
what is currently there.

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On 03/04/2011 11:05 PM, Pedro Lopes wrote:
> But it goes to the http://puredata.info/community/projects/software

yes

> 
> and not the
> http://puredata.info/downloads

which is correct.
the idea is, that the former will replace the latter.
right now, the latter is still there for transition's sake

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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

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2011/3/4 Pierre Massat 
>
> I don't need it, i just thought it was confusing... Perhaps it isn't.
>
>
Yes, it is.
When someone asked me what version of Pd should download and from where last
week, I realised how confusing is this and how unfriendly for a newcomer.
You have to search to even find the main forum of the program.
Never mind, no objection intended

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But it goes to the http://puredata.info/community/projects/software

and not the
http://puredata.info/downloads

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Pedro Lopes  wrote:

> It is not HCI friendly, but see the image. Its on the top bar. Not on the
> side.
>
> 2011/3/4 Pierre Massat 
>
>> Ok, my question is : how do i get there from the main puredata.info page
>> :
>>
>> http://puredata.info/downloads
>>
>> I don't need it, i just thought it was confusing... Perhaps it isn't.
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>> 2011/3/4 IOhannes m zmölnig 
>>
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>>> On 03/04/2011 08:21 PM, Pierre Massat wrote:
>>> > Hi list, why has the Download folder disapeared from the menu in
>>> > puredata.info?
>>>
>>> i cannot really follow you.
>>> i get the following tabs (without being logged in)
>>> "download pd" "documentation" "development" "community" "members"
>>> "exhibition" at the top o the page.
>>>
>>> the 1st one directs you to the download page (hence it's name)
>>>
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Ok, my question is : how do i get there from the main puredata.info page :
http://puredata.info/downloads

I don't need it, i just thought it was confusing... Perhaps it isn't.

Pierre

2011/3/4 IOhannes m zmölnig 

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> On 03/04/2011 08:21 PM, Pierre Massat wrote:
> > Hi list, why has the Download folder disapeared from the menu in
> > puredata.info?
>
> i cannot really follow you.
> i get the following tabs (without being logged in)
> "download pd" "documentation" "development" "community" "members"
> "exhibition" at the top o the page.
>
> the 1st one directs you to the download page (hence it's name)
>
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On 03/04/2011 08:21 PM, Pierre Massat wrote:
> Hi list, why has the Download folder disapeared from the menu in
> puredata.info?

i cannot really follow you.
i get the following tabs (without being logged in)
"download pd" "documentation" "development" "community" "members"
"exhibition" at the top o the page.

the 1st one directs you to the download page (hence it's name)

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Re: [PD] Download Pd?

[Jose Luis Santorcuato]

Hi, test here

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/

Current and old releases

Best regards

José

2011/3/4 Pierre Massat :
> Hi list, why has the Download folder disapeared from the menu in
> puredata.info? It's there if you come from google and search for the
> download page, but it's not when you're in puredata.info. Or maybe i'm
> blind?
>
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[Pierre Massat]

Hi list, why has the Download folder disapeared from the menu in
puredata.info? It's there if you come from google and search for the
download page, but it's not when you're in puredata.info. Or maybe i'm
blind?

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