Begin forwarded message: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> > Date: February 18, 2012 9:02:07 PM GMT+01:00 > To: Ángel Faraldo <angelfara...@gmail.com> > Cc: João Pais <jmmmp...@googlemail.com>, "pd-list@iem.at List" > <pd-list@iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta!
>> also frequent and irregular audio clicks on mac OSX 10.6.8, no matter how >> big the delay time is set to in the audio properties. (Tested with 'test >> audio/midi patch' @ SR 44100 and 48000 Hz with built-in audio, portaudio). > What kind of computer and audio interface are you using? macbook pro 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with OSX 10.6.8. I tested it with the built-in audio and a RME Fireface 800 with similar results. > > Hmm yeah, [cputime] does seem broken. Could you post a bug report please? done ángel faraldo > > .hc > > On Feb 18, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Ángel Faraldo wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> also frequent and irregular audio clicks on mac OSX 10.6.8, no matter how >> big the delay time is set to in the audio properties. (Tested with 'test >> audio/midi patch' @ SR 44100 and 48000 Hz with built-in audio, portaudio). >> >> also, [cputime] appears not to work. >> >> (pd-0.43.1-extended-20120218-macosx105-i386) >> >> Ángel Faraldo >> _________________ >> www.angelfaraldo.info >> >> >> On Feb 18, 2012, at 6:41 PM, João Pais wrote: >> >>> It sounds as if the audio isn't synced to the system card, or something. >>> The sinus in the audio test patch has lots of irregular clicks, almost as >>> if they would be dropouts. >>> >>>> >>>> What do you mean by noisy? Can you give more information? I really don't >>>> know much about Windows, so I rely on others to tell me how things there >>>> should be handled. patco and pob have been doing a lot of valuable work >>>> there. >>>> >>>> .hc >>>> >>>> On Feb 18, 2012, at 12:13 PM, João Pais wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Hans, >>>>> >>>>> great job. But, here in XP, I get audio problems: trying to run with asio >>>>> (as I always do with 0.42), the audio is very noisy. >>>>> Audio options are -asio -audioindev 2 -audiooutdev 2 -channels 2 >>>>> -midiindev 1 -midioutdev 1 -audiobuf 40, and they always worked with >>>>> previous versions of pd-ext. >>>>> >>>>> João >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://at.or.at/hans/blog/2012/02/17/new-editing-feature-of-pd-extended-0-43-now-in-beta/ >>>>>> >>>>>> The Pd-extended 0.43 release has been brewing an extra long time, about >>>>>> 18 months now, mostly because there are lots of big improvements, and we >>>>>> wanted to make sure we got it right, so your patches all work, but the >>>>>> improvements all shine. Its now solidly beta, so we’re looking for >>>>>> testers. Download a nightly build to try here: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ >>>>>> >>>>>> First off, the pd-gui side of Pd has been re-written from scratch. When >>>>>> you run Pd, you are actually running two programs: pd is the core engine >>>>>> and pd-gui is the GUI. Since basically all computers now come with >>>>>> multiple CPU cores, this means that pd-gui will usually run on a >>>>>> separate CPU core than pd, so they don’t step on each other’s toes. pd >>>>>> can entirely take over its own core. If you want to make your patch use >>>>>> more CPU cores, then check out the [pd~] object introduced in the last >>>>>> release (0.42.5). >>>>>> >>>>>> pd still handles some of the GUI stuff, but we are working on splitting >>>>>> that out for the 0.44 release. That is a big chunk of work but it will >>>>>> also bring big gains. In particular, it means that it will be possible >>>>>> for people to write their own GUIs for Pd, covering not just the display >>>>>> of the patch, but also the editing, and everything else. You like >>>>>> OpenFrameworks, python, iOS, JUCE, Qt, etc.? Write your own pd-gui using >>>>>> the toolkit of your choice. That’s the idea at least. That will take a >>>>>> solid chunk of work, so we are looking for people to join that effort. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are so many ideas for making a better editing experience in Pd, >>>>>> this release makes big strides to address the editing experience. There >>>>>> are new features like Magic Glass, Autotips, Autopatch and Perf Mode, >>>>>> all available on the Edit menu. >>>>>> >>>>>> • Magic Glass let’s you magically see the messages as they pass through >>>>>> the cords. Just turn it on and hover above a cord, and you’ll see the >>>>>> messages as they go by. You can even look at signal/audio cords. >>>>>> >>>>>> • Autotips gives you tips about what an object does, what its inlet >>>>>> expects, and what comes out of the outlets. >>>>>> >>>>>> • Autopatch mode automatically connects objects as you create them. >>>>>> >>>>>> • Perf Mode, is a mode for performance that makes it harder to >>>>>> accidentally close windows that are part of your performance. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Pd Window is also majorly overhauled. First of all, its fast. Much >>>>>> much faster than the old one. You can now print thousands of messages >>>>>> per second to the Pd Window and still edit your patch. No more will an >>>>>> accidental dump of info cause the GUI to freeze up (well, ok, maybe if >>>>>> you send 10,000 messages/second but that is a way too many). There are >>>>>> also now 5 levels of printing messages to the Pd Window: fatal, error, >>>>>> normal, debug, all. If you are only interested in fatal errors, switch >>>>>> the Pd Window to 0 – fatal, and you’ll only see the worst problems. You >>>>>> want to see every single message to debug? Switch to 4 – all, and you’ll >>>>>> get the whole firehose. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is also the new log library, which lets you easily send messages >>>>>> for those different levels. And all messages logged with the objects >>>>>> from the log library are clickable: when you Ctrl-Click or Cmd-click >>>>>> (Mac OS X) on the line in the Pd Window, it’ll pop up the patch where >>>>>> the message came from, and highlight the specific object that printed >>>>>> it. That even works for many messages from other objects as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Pd Window also includes very basic level meters for monitoring the >>>>>> input and output levels. And for those who want to play with the GUI in >>>>>> realtime, you can type Tcl code in the Tcl entry field, and directly >>>>>> modify and probe the running GUI. >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing that you can do now is customize the GUI using GUI plugins. >>>>>> You can change all sorts of colors, some fonts, and many behaviors. Want >>>>>> to create a new object when you triple-click? Try the tripleclick >>>>>> example plugin Want to make the patch cords disappear when you leave >>>>>> Edit Mode? Check out the “only show cords in edit mode” example. Those >>>>>> are the simple ones. There is also Tab Completion, a search engine for >>>>>> the docs, a category browser for the right-click menu, a buttonbar for >>>>>> creating objects, and more. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find many GUI plugins in the new section of the downloads page >>>>>> as well as documentation for making your own. What kind of GUI plugin >>>>>> will write? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pd-announce mailing list >>>>>> pd-annou...@iem.at >>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Friedenstr. 58 >>>>> 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) >>>>> Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 >>>>> Studio +49 30 69509190 >>>>> jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during >>>> that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big >>>> Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Friedenstr. 58 >>> 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) >>> Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 >>> Studio +49 30 69509190 >>> jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> Ángel Faraldo >> _________________ >> www.angelfaraldo.info >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that > period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, > for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler > > Ángel Faraldo _________________ www.angelfaraldo.info
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