Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2011-07-12 00:47, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 Ok, I think I found it, there were lots of 32-bit .x%x.c patterns in
 the magicglass/nlet highlighting code, I replaced them with proper
 .x%lx.c patterns which should support 64-bit fine.  Try tomorrow's
 build and let me know.
 
 .x%lx.c is not 64-bit on Win64, but as long as all sys_vgui commands
 have the same bug, the bug will very very rarely show up in practice.
 

btw, wouldn't %p be the correct way to print a pointer? or are there
some compat issues with that (e.g. non-POSIX)

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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:41 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at
wrote:
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 On 2011-07-12 00:47, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
  On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
  
  Ok, I think I found it, there were lots of 32-bit .x%x.c patterns in
  the magicglass/nlet highlighting code, I replaced them with proper
  .x%lx.c patterns which should support 64-bit fine.  Try tomorrow's
  build and let me know.
  
  .x%lx.c is not 64-bit on Win64, but as long as all sys_vgui commands
  have the same bug, the bug will very very rarely show up in practice.
  
 
 btw, wouldn't %p be the correct way to print a pointer? or are there
 some compat issues with that (e.g. non-POSIX)

All I know is that the rest of the Pd code uses .x%lx.

.hc

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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:41 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at

btw, wouldn't %p be the correct way to print a pointer? or are there
some compat issues with that (e.g. non-POSIX)

All I know is that the rest of the Pd code uses .x%lx.


At the dev meeting in Graz in 2004, I was asked for a portable replacement 
for .x%lx, and I spontaneously said %p, but it turned out to be wrong, 
because on Linux/OSX, it doesn't print it exactly as .x%lx in 32-bit mode, 
because it prepends 0x... and then I later realised that on Windows, it 
does something even more different.


In any case, any change from .x%lx to something else will cause a 
problem of backwards-compat AND forwards-compat across versions of Pd, 
which will need not only a recompilation but also a global 
search-and-replace (one that can't be done by sed). This is because 
sys_vgui is too low level, causing its users to need to copy-paste .x%lx 
all over the place.


This is why the Win64 pointer bug can't be fixed.

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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


So I ran the latest build of Pd-extended 0.43.1 on a 10.6 and it ran  
fine.  Any other ideas about how to reproduce this?


.hc

On Jul 8, 2011, at 11:37 AM, James Dunn wrote:

Sure. I did exactly what I did last time and here's the console  
output:


-- done with main --
::tk::mac::OpenApplication  Connection from 'pd' to 'pd- 
gui' on 127.0.0.1:54515

Default font: Andale Mono
libdir loader 1.9
   compiled on Jul  8 2011 at 10:30:07
   compiled against Pd version 0.43.1.extended-20110708
libdir_loader: added 'vanilla' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'extra' to the global objectclass path
/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110708.app/Contents/Resources/ 
Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1- 
extended-20110708.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/ 
Gem.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
 Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110708.app/ 
Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin

 Expected in: dynamic lookup

Gem: can't load library
libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path
The Pd window filtered 13 lines
(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name .x1634dc0.c
   while executing
.x1634dc0.c itemconfigure .x101634dc0.t101635200o0 -outline  
$select_color -width 3

   (uplevel body line 1)
   invoked from within
uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command  
name .x1634dc0.c

   while executing
.x1634dc0.c itemconfigure .x101634dc0.t101635200o0 -outline  
$signal_cord -fill $signal_nlet -width 1

   (uplevel body line 1)
   invoked from within
uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd

Quoth Hans-Christoph Steiner, on 07/07/2011 16:29:
I guess I need to find me a 10.6 machine to debug on...  could you  
do me
a favor and try running that debug session again, then in the Pd  
window,
switch the log to 'debug', and copy and paste the contents in an  
email

reply to this thread?

.hc

On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:27 +0100, James Dunnja...@4thharmonic.com
wrote:
I thought I'd try and install the latest pd extended on my Macbook  
Pro
(10.6.8, 2.7GHz Intel Core i7, 64bit) but I get a lot of errors.  
This is

with the latest build of Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx106-x86_64.dmg

I've attached a screenshot. All I did was run pd, open a new patch  
and
add a bang object with command-shift-b. This created two objects,  
one
which was created at the mouse position, and another following the  
mouse

movement. Then I created an [osc~] object and got the errors in the
console.

James

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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Oops, yes, I see it now...

.hc

On Jul 7, 2011, at 6:27 AM, James Dunn wrote:

I thought I'd try and install the latest pd extended on my Macbook  
Pro (10.6.8, 2.7GHz Intel Core i7, 64bit) but I get a lot of errors.  
This is with the latest build of Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx106- 
x86_64.dmg


I've attached a screenshot. All I did was run pd, open a new patch  
and add a bang object with command-shift-b. This created two  
objects, one which was created at the mouse position, and another  
following the mouse movement. Then I created an [osc~] object and  
got the errors in the console.


James
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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Ok, I think I found it, there were lots of 32-bit .x%x.c patterns in  
the magicglass/nlet highlighting code, I replaced them with proper .x 
%lx.c patterns which should support 64-bit fine.  Try tomorrow's build  
and let me know.


.hc

On Jul 8, 2011, at 11:37 AM, James Dunn wrote:

Sure. I did exactly what I did last time and here's the console  
output:


-- done with main --
::tk::mac::OpenApplication  Connection from 'pd' to 'pd- 
gui' on 127.0.0.1:54515

Default font: Andale Mono
libdir loader 1.9
   compiled on Jul  8 2011 at 10:30:07
   compiled against Pd version 0.43.1.extended-20110708
libdir_loader: added 'vanilla' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'extra' to the global objectclass path
/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110708.app/Contents/Resources/ 
Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1- 
extended-20110708.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/ 
Gem.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
 Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110708.app/ 
Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin

 Expected in: dynamic lookup

Gem: can't load library
libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path
The Pd window filtered 13 lines
(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name .x1634dc0.c
   while executing
.x1634dc0.c itemconfigure .x101634dc0.t101635200o0 -outline  
$select_color -width 3

   (uplevel body line 1)
   invoked from within
uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command  
name .x1634dc0.c

   while executing
.x1634dc0.c itemconfigure .x101634dc0.t101635200o0 -outline  
$signal_cord -fill $signal_nlet -width 1

   (uplevel body line 1)
   invoked from within
uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd

Quoth Hans-Christoph Steiner, on 07/07/2011 16:29:
I guess I need to find me a 10.6 machine to debug on...  could you  
do me
a favor and try running that debug session again, then in the Pd  
window,
switch the log to 'debug', and copy and paste the contents in an  
email

reply to this thread?

.hc

On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:27 +0100, James Dunnja...@4thharmonic.com
wrote:
I thought I'd try and install the latest pd extended on my Macbook  
Pro
(10.6.8, 2.7GHz Intel Core i7, 64bit) but I get a lot of errors.  
This is

with the latest build of Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx106-x86_64.dmg

I've attached a screenshot. All I did was run pd, open a new patch  
and
add a bang object with command-shift-b. This created two objects,  
one
which was created at the mouse position, and another following the  
mouse

movement. Then I created an [osc~] object and got the errors in the
console.

James

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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-11 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

Ok, I think I found it, there were lots of 32-bit .x%x.c patterns in the 
magicglass/nlet highlighting code, I replaced them with proper .x%lx.c 
patterns which should support 64-bit fine.  Try tomorrow's build and let 
me know.


.x%lx.c is not 64-bit on Win64, but as long as all sys_vgui commands have 
the same bug, the bug will very very rarely show up in practice.


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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-11 Thread Leandro Damasceno
If i could i would just lend you my machine. Tell me if you need anything, rven 
if it is a remote connection.

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 
 I guess I need to find me a 10.6 machine to debug on...  could you do me
 a favor and try running that debug session again, then in the Pd window,
 switch the log to 'debug', and copy and paste the contents in an email
 reply to this thread?
 
 .hc
 
 On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:27 +0100, James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com
 wrote:
 I thought I'd try and install the latest pd extended on my Macbook Pro 
 (10.6.8, 2.7GHz Intel Core i7, 64bit) but I get a lot of errors. This is 
 with the latest build of Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx106-x86_64.dmg
 
 I've attached a screenshot. All I did was run pd, open a new patch and 
 add a bang object with command-shift-b. This created two objects, one 
 which was created at the mouse position, and another following the mouse 
 movement. Then I created an [osc~] object and got the errors in the
 console.
 
 James
 
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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-11 Thread Leandro Damasceno
The same has happened to me. It's very buggy on the 10.6. Would you like me 
debug log as well?

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 
 I guess I need to find me a 10.6 machine to debug on...  could you do me
 a favor and try running that debug session again, then in the Pd window,
 switch the log to 'debug', and copy and paste the contents in an email
 reply to this thread?
 
 .hc
 
 On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:27 +0100, James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com
 wrote:
 I thought I'd try and install the latest pd extended on my Macbook Pro 
 (10.6.8, 2.7GHz Intel Core i7, 64bit) but I get a lot of errors. This is 
 with the latest build of Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx106-x86_64.dmg
 
 I've attached a screenshot. All I did was run pd, open a new patch and 
 add a bang object with command-shift-b. This created two objects, one 
 which was created at the mouse position, and another following the mouse 
 movement. Then I created an [osc~] object and got the errors in the
 console.
 
 James
 
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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Thanks for the offer!  I think that testing the nightly builds and  
making good bug reports is very valuable.  You could try your hand at  
the whole build setup, that's a bigger project, but then you can make  
your own Pd-extended builds.


.hc

On Jul 11, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Leandro Damasceno wrote:

If i could i would just lend you my machine. Tell me if you need  
anything, rven if it is a remote connection.


Sent from my iPad

On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
h...@at.or.at wrote:




I guess I need to find me a 10.6 machine to debug on...  could you  
do me
a favor and try running that debug session again, then in the Pd  
window,
switch the log to 'debug', and copy and paste the contents in an  
email

reply to this thread?

.hc

On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:27 +0100, James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com
wrote:
I thought I'd try and install the latest pd extended on my Macbook  
Pro
(10.6.8, 2.7GHz Intel Core i7, 64bit) but I get a lot of errors.  
This is

with the latest build of Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx106-x86_64.dmg

I've attached a screenshot. All I did was run pd, open a new patch  
and
add a bang object with command-shift-b. This created two objects,  
one
which was created at the mouse position, and another following the  
mouse

movement. Then I created an [osc~] object and got the errors in the
console.

James

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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


About the double toggle, bang, etc., it seems that's a bug in Tcl/Tk  
Cocoa.  Here's a related bug report from Python IDLE:


http://bugs.python.org/issue11055

I guess we'll have to figure out a workaround...

.hc

On Jul 8, 2011, at 11:37 AM, James Dunn wrote:

Sure. I did exactly what I did last time and here's the console  
output:


-- done with main --
::tk::mac::OpenApplication  Connection from 'pd' to 'pd- 
gui' on 127.0.0.1:54515

Default font: Andale Mono
libdir loader 1.9
   compiled on Jul  8 2011 at 10:30:07
   compiled against Pd version 0.43.1.extended-20110708
libdir_loader: added 'vanilla' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'extra' to the global objectclass path
/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110708.app/Contents/Resources/ 
Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1- 
extended-20110708.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/ 
Gem.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
 Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110708.app/ 
Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin

 Expected in: dynamic lookup

Gem: can't load library
libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path
The Pd window filtered 13 lines
(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name .x1634dc0.c
   while executing
.x1634dc0.c itemconfigure .x101634dc0.t101635200o0 -outline  
$select_color -width 3

   (uplevel body line 1)
   invoked from within
uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command  
name .x1634dc0.c

   while executing
.x1634dc0.c itemconfigure .x101634dc0.t101635200o0 -outline  
$signal_cord -fill $signal_nlet -width 1

   (uplevel body line 1)
   invoked from within
uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd

Quoth Hans-Christoph Steiner, on 07/07/2011 16:29:
I guess I need to find me a 10.6 machine to debug on...  could you  
do me
a favor and try running that debug session again, then in the Pd  
window,
switch the log to 'debug', and copy and paste the contents in an  
email

reply to this thread?

.hc

On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:27 +0100, James Dunnja...@4thharmonic.com
wrote:
I thought I'd try and install the latest pd extended on my Macbook  
Pro
(10.6.8, 2.7GHz Intel Core i7, 64bit) but I get a lot of errors.  
This is

with the latest build of Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx106-x86_64.dmg

I've attached a screenshot. All I did was run pd, open a new patch  
and
add a bang object with command-shift-b. This created two objects,  
one
which was created at the mouse position, and another following the  
mouse

movement. Then I created an [osc~] object and got the errors in the
console.

James

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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-08 Thread James Dunn

Sure. I did exactly what I did last time and here's the console output:

-- done with main --
::tk::mac::OpenApplication  Connection from 'pd' to 'pd-gui' 
on 127.0.0.1:54515

Default font: Andale Mono
libdir loader 1.9
compiled on Jul  8 2011 at 10:30:07
compiled against Pd version 0.43.1.extended-20110708
libdir_loader: added 'vanilla' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'extra' to the global objectclass path
/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110708.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin: 
dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110708.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin, 
10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
  Referenced from: 
/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110708.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin

  Expected in: dynamic lookup

Gem: can't load library
libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path
The Pd window filtered 13 lines
(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name .x1634dc0.c
while executing
.x1634dc0.c itemconfigure .x101634dc0.t101635200o0 -outline 
$select_color -width 3

(uplevel body line 1)
invoked from within
uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command 
name .x1634dc0.c

while executing
.x1634dc0.c itemconfigure .x101634dc0.t101635200o0 -outline 
$signal_cord -fill $signal_nlet -width 1

(uplevel body line 1)
invoked from within
uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd

Quoth Hans-Christoph Steiner, on 07/07/2011 16:29:

I guess I need to find me a 10.6 machine to debug on...  could you do me
a favor and try running that debug session again, then in the Pd window,
switch the log to 'debug', and copy and paste the contents in an email
reply to this thread?

.hc

On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:27 +0100, James Dunnja...@4thharmonic.com
wrote:

I thought I'd try and install the latest pd extended on my Macbook Pro
(10.6.8, 2.7GHz Intel Core i7, 64bit) but I get a lot of errors. This is
with the latest build of Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx106-x86_64.dmg

I've attached a screenshot. All I did was run pd, open a new patch and
add a bang object with command-shift-b. This created two objects, one
which was created at the mouse position, and another following the mouse
movement. Then I created an [osc~] object and got the errors in the
console.

James

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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I guess I need to find me a 10.6 machine to debug on...  could you do me
a favor and try running that debug session again, then in the Pd window,
switch the log to 'debug', and copy and paste the contents in an email
reply to this thread?

.hc

On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:27 +0100, James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com
wrote:
 I thought I'd try and install the latest pd extended on my Macbook Pro 
 (10.6.8, 2.7GHz Intel Core i7, 64bit) but I get a lot of errors. This is 
 with the latest build of Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx106-x86_64.dmg
 
 I've attached a screenshot. All I did was run pd, open a new patch and 
 add a bang object with command-shift-b. This created two objects, one 
 which was created at the mouse position, and another following the mouse 
 movement. Then I created an [osc~] object and got the errors in the
 console.
 
 James
 
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[PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-06 Thread Si Mills
Hi Hans

Are the builds for os x functional at the moment?

I've just downloaded the latest 0.43.1 and it tried to open; the post window 
flashes up and immediately it quits.

Tested on 10.6.7

thanks
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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Hmm, two reports of failing on 10.6.  I use 10.5.8 and it works fine
there.  Could someone on 10.6 try running it from Terminal and sending
the log?  Here's how:

/path/to/Pd-0.43.1-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr -d 3
-verbose

.hc

On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:06 +0100, Si Mills smi...@rootsix.net wrote:
 Hi Hans
 
 Are the builds for os x functional at the moment?
 
 I've just downloaded the latest 0.43.1 and it tried to open; the post
 window flashes up and immediately it quits.
 
 Tested on 10.6.7
 
 thanks
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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-06 Thread Eduardo Patricio



On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:06 +0100, Si Mills smi...@rootsix.net wrote:
 Hi Hans
 
 Are the builds for os x functional at the moment?
 
 I've just downloaded the latest 0.43.1 and it tried to open; the post
 window flashes up and immediately it quits.
 
 Tested on 10.6.7
 
 thanks



Same here, Hans...   OSX 10.6.7


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Assunto: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

Hi Hans

Are the builds for os x functional at the moment?

I've just downloaded the latest 0.43.1 and it tried to open; the post window 
flashes up and immediately it quits.

Tested on 10.6.7

thanks
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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Could you post a screenshot?  It should also load the greek translation,
if your computer supports Greek.

.hc

On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 21:53 +0300, Kyriakos Tsoukalas
k...@labyrinthos.gr wrote:
 Hi,
 
 The application don't quit here on 10.6.7  10.6.8 but is short of ... a
 lot.
 
 On 6 Jul 2011, at 18:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
  
  Hmm, two reports of failing on 10.6.  I use 10.5.8 and it works fine
  there.  Could someone on 10.6 try running it from Terminal and sending
  the log?  Here's how:
  
  /path/to/Pd-0.43.1-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr -d 3
  -verbose
 see attached txt
  
  .hc
  
  On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:06 +0100, Si Mills smi...@rootsix.net wrote:
  Hi Hans
  
  Are the builds for os x functional at the moment?
  
  I've just downloaded the latest 0.43.1 and it tried to open; the post
  window flashes up and immediately it quits.
  
  Tested on 10.6.7
  
  thanks
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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

That looks functional to me, what's the problem?  The difference in
Pd-extended 0.43.1 is that only a few libraries are loaded by default (I
think its Gem, cyclone, and zexy only).  Use [import] in your patches to
load libraries.  Also, most of the internals are split out into the
'vanilla' library, which is loaded by default.  If you have your own
custom preferences, then the defaults won't be loaded, and then the
vanilla lib won't be loaded, so you'll be missing a lot.  The preferred
way of running Pd-extended is only using the default preferences.

.hc

On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 22:23 +0300, Kyriakos Tsoukalas
k...@labyrinthos.gr wrote:
 
 On 6 Jul 2011, at 22:05, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
  
  Could you post a screenshot?  It should also load the greek translation,
  if your computer supports Greek.
 The preferred lang is English (for non unicode-savvy apps)  then greek,
 if that matters.
  
  .hc
  
  On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 21:53 +0300, Kyriakos Tsoukalas
  k...@labyrinthos.gr wrote:
  Hi,
  
  The application don't quit here on 10.6.7  10.6.8 but is short of ... a
  lot.
  
  On 6 Jul 2011, at 18:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
  
  
  Hmm, two reports of failing on 10.6.  I use 10.5.8 and it works fine
  there.  Could someone on 10.6 try running it from Terminal and sending
  the log?  Here's how:
  
  /path/to/Pd-0.43.1-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr -d 3
  -verbose
  see attached txt
  
  .hc
  
  On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:06 +0100, Si Mills smi...@rootsix.net wrote:
  Hi Hans
  
  Are the builds for os x functional at the moment?
  
  I've just downloaded the latest 0.43.1 and it tried to open; the post
  window flashes up and immediately it quits.
  
  Tested on 10.6.7
  
  thanks
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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Ah, strange, so it worked with the old preferences, and now once you've
removed the old preferences, it doesn't work?

.hc

On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 01:05 +0300, Kyriakos Tsoukalas
k...@labyrinthos.gr wrote:
 Thank you - I cleared leftovers from previous Pd-extended reinstalled
 pd-ext0.43.1 and default libraries were loaded, except for GEM. But,
 being hasty to see new preferences:
 The application freezed by clicking the Pd 0.43.1extended-20110706
 menu before the Pd window appears. I reproduced this several times, 
 reinstalled and reproduced it again. I attached a screenshot (the menu
 opened and closed when pd window came up)
 
 regards,
 kyriakos
 
 On 6 Jul 2011, at 22:51, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
  
  That looks functional to me, what's the problem?  The difference in
  Pd-extended 0.43.1 is that only a few libraries are loaded by default (I
  think its Gem, cyclone, and zexy only).  Use [import] in your patches to
  load libraries.  Also, most of the internals are split out into the
  'vanilla' library, which is loaded by default.  If you have your own
  custom preferences, then the defaults won't be loaded, and then the
  vanilla lib won't be loaded, so you'll be missing a lot.  The preferred
  way of running Pd-extended is only using the default preferences.
  
  .hc
  
  On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 22:23 +0300, Kyriakos Tsoukalas
  k...@labyrinthos.gr wrote:
  
  On 6 Jul 2011, at 22:05, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
  
  
  Could you post a screenshot?  It should also load the greek translation,
  if your computer supports Greek.
  The preferred lang is English (for non unicode-savvy apps)  then greek,
  if that matters.
  
  .hc
  
  On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 21:53 +0300, Kyriakos Tsoukalas
  k...@labyrinthos.gr wrote:
  Hi,
  
  The application don't quit here on 10.6.7  10.6.8 but is short of ... a
  lot.
  
  On 6 Jul 2011, at 18:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
  
  
  Hmm, two reports of failing on 10.6.  I use 10.5.8 and it works fine
  there.  Could someone on 10.6 try running it from Terminal and sending
  the log?  Here's how:
  
  /path/to/Pd-0.43.1-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr -d 3
  -verbose
  see attached txt
  
  .hc
  
  On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:06 +0100, Si Mills smi...@rootsix.net wrote:
  Hi Hans
  
  Are the builds for os x functional at the moment?
  
  I've just downloaded the latest 0.43.1 and it tried to open; the post
  window flashes up and immediately it quits.
  
  Tested on 10.6.7
  
  thanks
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Re: [PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1

2011-07-06 Thread Kyriakos Tsoukalas

On 7 Jul 2011, at 01:16, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 
 Ah, strange, so it worked with the old preferences, and now once you've
 removed the old preferences, it doesn't work?
No it always worked (no vanilla lib from wrong prefs - sorry for bothering you) 
and now it works (don't be hasty featured) just fine to be listening/viewing 
your solitude right now (data structures:) - really nice piece/work by the 
way.

kyriakos
 
 .hc
 
 On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 01:05 +0300, Kyriakos Tsoukalas
 k...@labyrinthos.gr wrote:
 Thank you - I cleared leftovers from previous Pd-extended reinstalled
 pd-ext0.43.1 and default libraries were loaded, except for GEM. But,
 being hasty to see new preferences:
 The application freezed by clicking the Pd 0.43.1extended-20110706
 menu before the Pd window appears. I reproduced this several times, 
 reinstalled and reproduced it again. I attached a screenshot (the menu
 opened and closed when pd window came up)
 
 regards,
 kyriakos
 
 On 6 Jul 2011, at 22:51, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
 That looks functional to me, what's the problem?  The difference in
 Pd-extended 0.43.1 is that only a few libraries are loaded by default (I
 think its Gem, cyclone, and zexy only).  Use [import] in your patches to
 load libraries.  Also, most of the internals are split out into the
 'vanilla' library, which is loaded by default.  If you have your own
 custom preferences, then the defaults won't be loaded, and then the
 vanilla lib won't be loaded, so you'll be missing a lot.  The preferred
 way of running Pd-extended is only using the default preferences.
 
 .hc
 
 On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 22:23 +0300, Kyriakos Tsoukalas
 k...@labyrinthos.gr wrote:
 
 On 6 Jul 2011, at 22:05, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
 Could you post a screenshot?  It should also load the greek translation,
 if your computer supports Greek.
 The preferred lang is English (for non unicode-savvy apps)  then greek,
 if that matters.
 
 .hc
 
 On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 21:53 +0300, Kyriakos Tsoukalas
 k...@labyrinthos.gr wrote:
 Hi,
 
 The application don't quit here on 10.6.7  10.6.8 but is short of ... a
 lot.
 
 On 6 Jul 2011, at 18:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
 Hmm, two reports of failing on 10.6.  I use 10.5.8 and it works fine
 there.  Could someone on 10.6 try running it from Terminal and sending
 the log?  Here's how:
 
 /path/to/Pd-0.43.1-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr -d 3
 -verbose
 see attached txt
 
 .hc
 
 On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:06 +0100, Si Mills smi...@rootsix.net wrote:
 Hi Hans
 
 Are the builds for os x functional at the moment?
 
 I've just downloaded the latest 0.43.1 and it tried to open; the post
 window flashes up and immediately it quits.
 
 Tested on 10.6.7
 
 thanks
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