Re: [PD] PD sound quality question

2009-05-24 Thread Andy Farnell
On Sun, 24 May 2009 00:07:45 -0400
Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:

 So my questions are: is this aliasing a
 particular problem of my system or is this an expected result? 

It's an expected result. It isn't 'aliasing', but an effect called
quantisation, which you will hear even in perfectly sampled data.

 Is
 there anyway of avoiding it? I could post the patch here if needed.


[tabread4~] already goes some way towards avoiding it, by 
interpolating (going in-between the sample values) to make the
playback smoother. Since you seem interested in the low frequencies
found when slowing sounds down it might help to add a low pass 
filter that smoothes the signal even more.

Andy
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Hector
 
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Re: [PD] PD sound quality question

2009-05-24 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen

Andy Farnell wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 00:07:45 -0400
Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:


So my questions are: is this aliasing a
particular problem of my system or is this an expected result? 


It's an expected result. It isn't 'aliasing', but an effect called
quantisation, which you will hear even in perfectly sampled data.


Is
there anyway of avoiding it? I could post the patch here if needed.



[tabread4~] already goes some way towards avoiding it, by 
interpolating (going in-between the sample values) to make the

playback smoother.


Except Pd's 4-point interpolation is at best suboptimal...

http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-06/062878.html

Try tabread4c~ or whatever and compare..



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Re: [PD] PD sound quality question

2009-05-24 Thread Matt Barber
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 Hello,

 I'm in the process of learning more about PD so I've been checking
 some of the patches that are part of Johannes Kreidler's excellent
 tutorial Programming Electronic Music in Pd (
 http://www.pd-tutorial.com/ ). Today I was playing a bit with the
 sampler-big.pd which is a sound sampler with adjustable speed and
 start/end points. I noticed that as I made playback speed slower I
 started to hear quite noticeable aliasing. The patch uses [tabread4~]
 for reading the sound array. So my questions are: is this aliasing a
 particular problem of my system or is this an expected result? Is
 there anyway of avoiding it? I could post the patch here if needed.


 Cheers,

 Hector




If you haven't yet, read the following thread -- I think it goes well
into July of 2008:

http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-06/062878.html

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[PD] PD sound quality question

2009-05-23 Thread Hector Centeno
Hello,

I'm in the process of learning more about PD so I've been checking
some of the patches that are part of Johannes Kreidler's excellent
tutorial Programming Electronic Music in Pd (
http://www.pd-tutorial.com/ ). Today I was playing a bit with the
sampler-big.pd which is a sound sampler with adjustable speed and
start/end points. I noticed that as I made playback speed slower I
started to hear quite noticeable aliasing. The patch uses [tabread4~]
for reading the sound array. So my questions are: is this aliasing a
particular problem of my system or is this an expected result? Is
there anyway of avoiding it? I could post the patch here if needed.


Cheers,

Hector

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