subject:"\[PD\] Pd\-extended 0.41.4\-rc3 released\!"



On May 28, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Oded Ben-Tal wrote:


hi,

I hoped to follow in Hector's footsteps and install this on the  
planet's FC10. But while i didn't see any errors when installing  
when I run this Pd I don't get any audio (when I select Jack I get I/ 
O stuck; it works ok with the version that nando packages, but  
that's 0.39). It also can't find some libraries (below). It's rather  
sad really becuase I was hoping to be able to run it for a  
performance on Monday.


zexy: can't load library
freeverb: can't load library
mapping: can't load library
mrpeach: can't load library
flatspace: can't load library
unauthorized: can't load library
iemlib: can't load library
pan: can't load library
list-abs: can't load library
cyclone: can't load library
hcs: can't load library
sms: can't load library
markex: can't load library


I am guessing that you have a preferences file in ~/.pdsettings that  
doesn't load 'libdir' first.  Are those libraries in /usr/local/lib/pd/ 
extra?


/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_linux: libMagick++.so.10: cannot  
open shared object file: No such file or directory

Gem: can't load library


Looks like you need to install libmagick.

.hc





Yes, I installed the Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3-planetccrma9- 
i386.tar.bz2

package for Fedora available at
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
Hector
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:

Which package is that?  Did you try this release?
.hc
On May 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:
Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in  
Fedora
Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out  
of the

object boxes.
Regards,
Hector
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 


wrote:

I think this is basically ready to go
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard  
anything about
Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if  
you haven't
already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there  
aren't any
outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I  
think this

is
the release.
Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!
http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker
This release candidate includes:
* on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
* moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
* fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib,  
bsaylor, and

sigpack
* (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there  
are some

really flaky audio cards in Windows land
* (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware  
that I

have
tested in the past 7 years works with that
KNOWN BUGS
Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting  
bugs, and if

you
find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your
information
there.
- Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup
preferences
- pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd
- loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before  
trying to

load
it

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-28 Thread Oded Ben-Tal


hi,

I hoped to follow in Hector's footsteps and install this on the planet's 
FC10. But while i didn't see any errors when installing when I run this Pd 
I don't get any audio (when I select Jack I get I/O stuck; it works ok 
with the version that nando packages, but that's 0.39). It also can't find 
some libraries (below). It's rather sad really becuase I was hoping to be 
able to run it for a performance on Monday.


 zexy: can't load library
freeverb: can't load library
mapping: can't load library
mrpeach: can't load library
flatspace: can't load library
unauthorized: can't load library
iemlib: can't load library
pan: can't load library
list-abs: can't load library
cyclone: can't load library
hcs: can't load library
sms: can't load library
markex: can't load library
/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_linux: libMagick++.so.10: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory

Gem: can't load library



Yes, I installed the Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3-planetccrma9-i386.tar.bz2
package for Fedora available at
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

Hector

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
wrote:


Which package is that?  Did you try this release?

.hc

On May 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:


Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora
Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the
object boxes.

Regards,

Hector


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
wrote:


I think this is basically ready to go


http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything 
about
Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you 
haven't
already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there aren't 
any
outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I think 
this

is
the release.

Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

This release candidate includes:
* on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
* moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
* fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, 
and

sigpack
* (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some
really flaky audio cards in Windows land
* (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I
have
tested in the past 7 years works with that

KNOWN BUGS

Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if
you
find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your
information
there.

- Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup
preferences

- pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

- loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to
load
it




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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!



On May 28, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Oded Ben-Tal wrote:

I am guessing that you have a preferences file in ~/.pdsettings  
that doesn't load 'libdir' first.  Are those libraries in /usr/ 
local/lib/pd/extra?


So I could change the first lib to:
loadlib1: libdir

but am I correct in suspecting that would render pd-0.39  
disfunctional?
I don't presume the problem with opening the audio is linked to this  
problem which is why I'm keen to have the earlier PD functioning  
untill I manage to fix that.



Here's the FAQ on that problem:

http://puredata.info/docs/faq/when-i-upgraded-to-pd-extended-0-40-3-it-stopped-loading-all-of-the-libraries

You can just rename or move the .pdrc/.pdsettings file to try Pd- 
extended newer than 0.39.3


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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!



That bug report was closed, so I didn't see it.  I can't reproduce  
this with the Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc* on Mac OS X/Intel 10.5.6 then  
10.5.7.  If you can, please post the info and steps how to do it here:


https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1994404group_id=55736atid=478070

.hc

On May 27, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Max wrote:

what about the weired select-text-in-the-about-window-and-close-to- 
crash-pd bug? it's in the bug tracker since a while and still present.


m.

Am 27.05.2009 um 23:37 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:



Ok, I fixed another 8.5 issue, this one with the Help Browser. I am
afraid that the issue of the iemgui's label fonts looks complicated  
so

that's going to have to wait for the next release.

.hc


On Wed, 27 May 2009 00:11 -0400, Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com
wrote:
PS -- this Fedora hack almost works well for object and message  
boxes
-- some of the mappings seem wrong (fiddling with the values in  
gnome

on Fedora 10 changes nothing for me).

This hack also doesn't affect font size for labels on gui objects
(sliders, bangs, etc.) -- these are too large still.  I haven't yet
tried it in data structures.  I have a feeling something awful is
afoot.

I'll post screenshot comparisons when I can get back to my fedora
machine.


Thanks a bunch for your patience on this,

Matt





Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic:

http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small

.hc

On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:


ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size
issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has
problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font
section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on Details  
shows a
configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I  
changed
that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original  
values in

Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3.

Cheers,

Hector


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno  
hcen...@gmail.com

wrote:
Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked  
before

in
a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in
Fedora
the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:

set sizelist 5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25

For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After
getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything  
in

the
gnome settings.

Cheers,

Hector




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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-28 Thread Oded Ben-Tal

I am guessing that you have a preferences file in ~/.pdsettings that doesn't 
load 'libdir' first.  Are those libraries in /usr/local/lib/pd/extra?


So I could change the first lib to:
loadlib1: libdir

but am I correct in suspecting that would render pd-0.39 disfunctional?
I don't presume the problem with opening the audio is linked to this 
problem which is why I'm keen to have the earlier PD functioning untill I 
manage to fix that.


thanks
Oded

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-28 Thread Oded Ben-Tal



thanks (I should have figured it out myself). It did solve the loading 
problem but still no audio...





On May 28, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Oded Ben-Tal wrote:

I am guessing that you have a preferences file in ~/.pdsettings that 
doesn't load 'libdir' first.  Are those libraries in 
/usr/local/lib/pd/extra?


So I could change the first lib to:
loadlib1: libdir

but am I correct in suspecting that would render pd-0.39 disfunctional?
I don't presume the problem with opening the audio is linked to this 
problem which is why I'm keen to have the earlier PD functioning untill I 
manage to fix that.



Here's the FAQ on that problem:

http://puredata.info/docs/faq/when-i-upgraded-to-pd-extended-0-40-3-it-stopped-loading-all-of-the-libraries

You can just rename or move the .pdrc/.pdsettings file to try Pd-extended 
newer than 0.39.3


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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!



Its compiled with Jack support, but you'll need to install it on your  
machine.


.hc

On May 28, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Oded Ben-Tal wrote:


hello again,

In trying to figure out why I can't get audio working on the new  
release. I presume jack support is automatically included when  
installing, and I don't need to enable it somewhere? (just wondering  
since pdvanilla does have --enable-jack flag).


thanks
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-28 Thread Dafydd Hughes

Hi Hans-Christoph

It's so easy to reinstall Ubuntu that I did, installed pd and
everything's working great now. I remember I got pd from the Ubuntu
repository originally, then installed the extended package. I'm pretty
sure I removed the old one everything first, but maybe there was some
conflict there.

Thanks a ton.

cheers
dafydd

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 Hey Dafydd,

 It seems that you have something funky going on.  I am running Jaunty
 9.04 on my machine, and iemlib, zexy, osxc, etc. are all there and
 working.

 .hc


 On Wed, 27 May 2009 08:33 -0400, Dafydd Hughes dafyd...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Hi Hans-Christoph

 Thanks for all you work on this.

 These may be eeepc-related issues, but here are a few things I've hit
 on my eeepc 701/Ubuntu 9.04:
 zexy: can't load library
 Looks like no OSC externals, no iemlib.
 Looks like Pd is only good for 1 run per session. On second run, I
 can't open any windows (Like loading a patch, New, Test Audio  MIDI)
 and I need to kill pd manually. (almost certain that's a eeepc issue.)

 Like I said, these problems may be eeepc things, but I thought I'd
 mention. I will keep bashing at it and I'll let you know if I learn
 anything.

 Thanks again.

 cheers
 dafydd


 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:
 
  I think this is basically ready to go
 
 
  http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
 
  Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything about
  Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't
  already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there aren't any
  outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I think this 
  is
  the release.
 
  Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!
 
  http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker
 
  This release candidate includes:
  * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
  * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
  * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and
  sigpack
  * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some
  really flaky audio cards in Windows land
  * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I have
  tested in the past 7 years works with that
 
  KNOWN BUGS
 
  Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if you
  find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information
  there.
 
  - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup 
  preferences
 
  - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd
 
  - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load
  it
 
  
 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-27 Thread Si Mills


Hi Hans

Is the Jack OSX cpu issue likely to be fixed for this release? All in  
all its felling really tight this version!


cheers

On 27 May 2009, at 05:11, Matt Barber wrote:


PS -- this Fedora hack almost works well for object and message boxes
-- some of the mappings seem wrong (fiddling with the values in gnome
on Fedora 10 changes nothing for me).

This hack also doesn't affect font size for labels on gui objects
(sliders, bangs, etc.) -- these are too large still.  I haven't yet
tried it in data structures.  I have a feeling something awful is
afoot.

I'll post screenshot comparisons when I can get back to my fedora  
machine.



Thanks a bunch for your patience on this,

Matt





Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic:

http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small

.hc

On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:


ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size
issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has
problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font
section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on Details shows a
configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I  
changed

that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original values in
Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3.

Cheers,

Hector


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com
wrote:

Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked before
in
a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in
Fedora
the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:

set sizelist 5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25

For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After
getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in
the
gnome settings.

Cheers,

Hector


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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-27 Thread Dafydd Hughes

Hi Hans-Christoph

Thanks for all you work on this.

These may be eeepc-related issues, but here are a few things I've hit
on my eeepc 701/Ubuntu 9.04:
zexy: can't load library
Looks like no OSC externals, no iemlib.
Looks like Pd is only good for 1 run per session. On second run, I
can't open any windows (Like loading a patch, New, Test Audio  MIDI)
and I need to kill pd manually. (almost certain that's a eeepc issue.)

Like I said, these problems may be eeepc things, but I thought I'd
mention. I will keep bashing at it and I'll let you know if I learn
anything.

Thanks again.

cheers
dafydd


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I think this is basically ready to go


 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything about
 Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't
 already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there aren't any
 outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I think this is
 the release.

 Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

 http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

 This release candidate includes:
 * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
 * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and
 sigpack
 * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some
 really flaky audio cards in Windows land
 * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I have
 tested in the past 7 years works with that

 KNOWN BUGS

 Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if you
 find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information
 there.

 - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences

 - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

 - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load
 it

 

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Thanks, glad its useful.  I am guessing that also means its working  
for you ;)


.hc

On May 26, 2009, at 10:00 PM, Tom Dunstan wrote:


Thanks Hans

This is really amazing and has been a great help.

t

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
h...@at.or.at wrote:


I think this is basically ready to go


http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything  
about Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if  
you haven't already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know,  
there aren't any outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this  
release.  So I think this is the release.


Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

This release candidate includes:
* on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
* moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
* fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib,  
bsaylor, and sigpack
* (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are  
some really flaky audio cards in Windows land
* (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that  
I have tested in the past 7 years works with that


KNOWN BUGS

Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and  
if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add  
your information there.


- Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup  
preferences


- pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

- loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying  
to load it




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No need to upgrade before your performance.  The ones to use are the  
ones on the release candidate page.


.hc

On May 26, 2009, at 8:16 PM, João Pais wrote:

for what's worth: I'm on a sensitive moment now (final stretch to  
audio-video performance next sunday in salamanca). I can look at  
this after that, though.

are the most actual versions on the nightly builds?

2009/5/26 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at

I think this is basically ready to go


http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything  
about Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if  
you haven't already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know,  
there aren't any outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this  
release.  So I think this is the release.


Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

This release candidate includes:
* on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
* moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
* fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib,  
bsaylor, and sigpack
* (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are  
some really flaky audio cards in Windows land
* (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that  
I have tested in the past 7 years works with that


KNOWN BUGS

Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and  
if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add  
your information there.


- Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup  
preferences


- pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

- loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying  
to load it




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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!



I know little about Jack, and I think this bug is also in vanilla, so  
its pretty unlikely to be fixed this time around.  Try nagging  
IOhannes :)


.hc

On May 27, 2009, at 4:23 AM, Si Mills wrote:


Hi Hans

Is the Jack OSX cpu issue likely to be fixed for this release? All  
in all its felling really tight this version!


cheers

On 27 May 2009, at 05:11, Matt Barber wrote:


PS -- this Fedora hack almost works well for object and message boxes
-- some of the mappings seem wrong (fiddling with the values in gnome
on Fedora 10 changes nothing for me).

This hack also doesn't affect font size for labels on gui objects
(sliders, bangs, etc.) -- these are too large still.  I haven't yet
tried it in data structures.  I have a feeling something awful is
afoot.

I'll post screenshot comparisons when I can get back to my fedora  
machine.



Thanks a bunch for your patience on this,

Matt





Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic:

http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small

.hc

On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:


ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size
issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has
problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font
section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on Details  
shows a
configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I  
changed
that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original values  
in

Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3.

Cheers,

Hector


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked  
before

in
a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in
Fedora
the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:

set sizelist 5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25

For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After
getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in
the
gnome settings.

Cheers,

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!


Hey Dafydd, 

It seems that you have something funky going on.  I am running Jaunty
9.04 on my machine, and iemlib, zexy, osxc, etc. are all there and
working.

.hc 


On Wed, 27 May 2009 08:33 -0400, Dafydd Hughes dafyd...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Hi Hans-Christoph
 
 Thanks for all you work on this.
 
 These may be eeepc-related issues, but here are a few things I've hit
 on my eeepc 701/Ubuntu 9.04:
 zexy: can't load library
 Looks like no OSC externals, no iemlib.
 Looks like Pd is only good for 1 run per session. On second run, I
 can't open any windows (Like loading a patch, New, Test Audio  MIDI)
 and I need to kill pd manually. (almost certain that's a eeepc issue.)
 
 Like I said, these problems may be eeepc things, but I thought I'd
 mention. I will keep bashing at it and I'll let you know if I learn
 anything.
 
 Thanks again.
 
 cheers
 dafydd
 
 
 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:
 
  I think this is basically ready to go
 
 
  http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
 
  Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything about
  Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't
  already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there aren't any
  outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I think this is
  the release.
 
  Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!
 
  http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker
 
  This release candidate includes:
  * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
  * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
  * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and
  sigpack
  * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some
  really flaky audio cards in Windows land
  * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I have
  tested in the past 7 years works with that
 
  KNOWN BUGS
 
  Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if you
  find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information
  there.
 
  - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences
 
  - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd
 
  - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load
  it
 
  
 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

Ok, I fixed another 8.5 issue, this one with the Help Browser. I am
afraid that the issue of the iemgui's label fonts looks complicated so
that's going to have to wait for the next release.

.hc

On Wed, 27 May 2009 00:11 -0400, Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com
wrote:
PS -- this Fedora hack almost works well for object and message boxes
-- some of the mappings seem wrong (fiddling with the values in gnome
on Fedora 10 changes nothing for me).

This hack also doesn't affect font size for labels on gui objects
(sliders, bangs, etc.) -- these are too large still. I haven't yet
tried it in data structures. I have a feeling something awful is
afoot.

I'll post screenshot comparisons when I can get back to my fedora
machine.

Thanks a bunch for your patience on this,

Matt

Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic:

http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small

.hc

On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size
issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has
problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font
section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on Details shows a
configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I changed
that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original values in
Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3.

Cheers,

Hector

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked before
in
a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in
Fedora
the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:

set sizelist 5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25

For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After
getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in
the
gnome settings.

Cheers,

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-27 Thread Max

what about the weired select-text-in-the-about-window-and-close-to- 
crash-pd bug? it's in the bug tracker since a while and still present.


m.

Am 27.05.2009 um 23:37 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:



Ok, I fixed another 8.5 issue, this one with the Help Browser. I am
afraid that the issue of the iemgui's label fonts looks complicated so
that's going to have to wait for the next release.

.hc


On Wed, 27 May 2009 00:11 -0400, Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com
wrote:

PS -- this Fedora hack almost works well for object and message boxes
-- some of the mappings seem wrong (fiddling with the values in gnome
on Fedora 10 changes nothing for me).

This hack also doesn't affect font size for labels on gui objects
(sliders, bangs, etc.) -- these are too large still.  I haven't yet
tried it in data structures.  I have a feeling something awful is
afoot.

I'll post screenshot comparisons when I can get back to my fedora
machine.


Thanks a bunch for your patience on this,

Matt





Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic:

http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small

.hc

On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:


ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size
issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has
problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font
section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on Details  
shows a
configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I  
changed
that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original values  
in

Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3.

Cheers,

Hector


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked  
before

in
a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in
Fedora
the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:

set sizelist 5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25

For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After
getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in
the
gnome settings.

Cheers,

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-27 Thread Dafydd Hughes

Huh. Ok - I'll do some more digging. Thanks.

cheers
dafydd

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 Hey Dafydd,

 It seems that you have something funky going on.  I am running Jaunty
 9.04 on my machine, and iemlib, zexy, osxc, etc. are all there and
 working.

 .hc


 On Wed, 27 May 2009 08:33 -0400, Dafydd Hughes dafyd...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Hi Hans-Christoph

 Thanks for all you work on this.

 These may be eeepc-related issues, but here are a few things I've hit
 on my eeepc 701/Ubuntu 9.04:
 zexy: can't load library
 Looks like no OSC externals, no iemlib.
 Looks like Pd is only good for 1 run per session. On second run, I
 can't open any windows (Like loading a patch, New, Test Audio  MIDI)
 and I need to kill pd manually. (almost certain that's a eeepc issue.)

 Like I said, these problems may be eeepc things, but I thought I'd
 mention. I will keep bashing at it and I'll let you know if I learn
 anything.

 Thanks again.

 cheers
 dafydd


 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:
 
  I think this is basically ready to go
 
 
  http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
 
  Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything about
  Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't
  already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there aren't any
  outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I think this 
  is
  the release.
 
  Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!
 
  http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker
 
  This release candidate includes:
  * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
  * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
  * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and
  sigpack
  * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some
  really flaky audio cards in Windows land
  * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I have
  tested in the past 7 years works with that
 
  KNOWN BUGS
 
  Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if you
  find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information
  there.
 
  - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup 
  preferences
 
  - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd
 
  - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load
  it
 
  
 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-27 Thread Matt Barber

I agree.

Thanks for the help, and I'll post back if I can track down a solution.

Matt

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

Ok, I fixed another 8.5 issue, this one with the Help Browser. I am
afraid that the issue of the iemgui's label fonts looks complicated so
that's going to have to wait for the next release.

.hc

I'll post screenshot comparisons when I can get back to my fedora
machine.

Thanks a bunch for your patience on this,

Matt

Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic:

http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small

.hc

On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

Cheers,

Hector

set sizelist 5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25

For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After
getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in
the
gnome settings.

Cheers,

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[PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!



I think this is basically ready to go


http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything  
about Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if  
you haven't already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know,  
there aren't any outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this  
release.  So I think this is the release.


Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

This release candidate includes:
* on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
* moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
* fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor,  
and sigpack
* (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are  
some really flaky audio cards in Windows land
* (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I  
have tested in the past 7 years works with that


KNOWN BUGS

Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and  
if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your  
information there.


- Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup  
preferences


- pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

- loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to  
load it




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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora
Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the
object boxes.

Regards,

Hector


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I think this is basically ready to go


 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything about
 Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't
 already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there aren't any
 outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I think this is
 the release.

 Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

 http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

 This release candidate includes:
 * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
 * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and
 sigpack
 * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some
 really flaky audio cards in Windows land
 * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I have
 tested in the past 7 years works with that

 KNOWN BUGS

 Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if you
 find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information
 there.

 - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences

 - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

 - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load
 it

 

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Which package is that?  Did you try this release?

.hc

On May 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:


Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora
Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the
object boxes.

Regards,

Hector


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


I think this is basically ready to go


http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything  
about
Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you  
haven't
already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there  
aren't any
outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I  
think this is

the release.

Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

This release candidate includes:
* on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
* moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
* fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib,  
bsaylor, and

sigpack
* (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are  
some

really flaky audio cards in Windows land
* (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware  
that I have

tested in the past 7 years works with that

KNOWN BUGS

Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs,  
and if you
find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your  
information

there.

- Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup  
preferences


- pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

- loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying  
to load

it



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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

Yes, I installed the Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3-planetccrma9-i386.tar.bz2
package for Fedora available at
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

Hector

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 Which package is that?  Did you try this release?

 .hc

 On May 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora
 Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the
 object boxes.

 Regards,

 Hector


 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 I think this is basically ready to go


 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything about
 Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't
 already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there aren't any
 outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I think this
 is
 the release.

 Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

 http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

 This release candidate includes:
 * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
 * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and
 sigpack
 * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some
 really flaky audio cards in Windows land
 * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I
 have
 tested in the past 7 years works with that

 KNOWN BUGS

 Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if
 you
 find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your
 information
 there.

 - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup
 preferences

 - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

 - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to
 load
 it


 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!



Ah, I thought that Fedora Package might have meant some official  
package included in Fedora.


- could you post a screenshot?

- do you have Bitstream Vera Sans Mono installed?

- in /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd.tk, do you have this code around line  
3996:


if {$::tcl_version eq 8.5} {
set sizelist 5 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 19 25
} else {
set sizelist 8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36
}


.hc

On May 26, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:


Yes, I installed the Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3-planetccrma9-i386.tar.bz2
package for Fedora available at
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

Hector

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
h...@at.or.at wrote:


Which package is that?  Did you try this release?

.hc

On May 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:


Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora
Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of  
the

object boxes.

Regards,

Hector


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 


wrote:


I think this is basically ready to go


http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard  
anything about
Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you  
haven't
already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there  
aren't any
outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I  
think this

is
the release.

Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

This release candidate includes:
* on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
* moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
* fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib,  
bsaylor, and

sigpack
* (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there  
are some

really flaky audio cards in Windows land
* (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware  
that I

have
tested in the past 7 years works with that

KNOWN BUGS

Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs,  
and if

you
find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your
information
there.

- Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup
preferences

- pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

- loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before  
trying to

load
it




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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked before in
a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora
the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:

set sizelist 5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25

For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After
getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in the
gnome settings.

Cheers,

Hector

p.s. I attached a screenshot of the way it looks with set sizelist 5
6 8 9 10 12 14 16 19 25

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 Ah, I thought that Fedora Package might have meant some official package
 included in Fedora.

 - could you post a screenshot?

 - do you have Bitstream Vera Sans Mono installed?

 - in /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd.tk, do you have this code around line 3996:

        if {$::tcl_version eq 8.5} {
                set sizelist 5 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 19 25
        } else {
                set sizelist 8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36
        }


 .hc

 On May 26, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Yes, I installed the Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3-planetccrma9-i386.tar.bz2
 package for Fedora available at
 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 Hector

 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 Which package is that?  Did you try this release?

 .hc

 On May 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora
 Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the
 object boxes.

 Regards,

 Hector


 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 I think this is basically ready to go


 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything
 about
 Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you
 haven't
 already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there aren't
 any
 outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I think
 this
 is
 the release.

 Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

 http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

 This release candidate includes:
 * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
 * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor,
 and
 sigpack
 * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are
 some
 really flaky audio cards in Windows land
 * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I
 have
 tested in the past 7 years works with that

 KNOWN BUGS

 Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if
 you
 find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your
 information
 there.

 - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup
 preferences

 - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

 - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to
 load
 it



 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread João Pais

for what's worth: I'm on a sensitive moment now (final stretch to
audio-video performance next sunday in salamanca). I can look at this after
that, though.
are the most actual versions on the nightly builds?

2009/5/26 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


 I think this is basically ready to go


 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything about
 Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't
 already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there aren't any
 outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I think this is
 the release.

 Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

 http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

 This release candidate includes:
 * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
 * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and
 sigpack
 * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some
 really flaky audio cards in Windows land
 * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I have
 tested in the past 7 years works with that

 KNOWN BUGS

 Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if
 you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your
 information there.

 - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup
 preferences

 - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

 - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load
 it


 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread Tom Dunstan

Thanks Hans

This is really amazing and has been a great help.

t

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 I think this is basically ready to go


 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything about
 Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't
 already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there aren't any
 outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I think this is
 the release.

 Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

 http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

 This release candidate includes:
 * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
 * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and
 sigpack
 * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some
 really flaky audio cards in Windows land
 * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I have
 tested in the past 7 years works with that

 KNOWN BUGS

 Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if
 you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your
 information there.

 - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup
 preferences

 - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

 - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load
 it


 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size
issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has
problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font
section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on Details shows a
configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I changed
that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original values in
Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3.

Cheers,

Hector


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked before in
 a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora
 the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:

 set sizelist 5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25

 For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After
 getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in the
 gnome settings.

 Cheers,

 Hector

 p.s. I attached a screenshot of the way it looks with set sizelist 5
 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 19 25

 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 Ah, I thought that Fedora Package might have meant some official package
 included in Fedora.

 - could you post a screenshot?

 - do you have Bitstream Vera Sans Mono installed?

 - in /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd.tk, do you have this code around line 3996:

        if {$::tcl_version eq 8.5} {
                set sizelist 5 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 19 25
        } else {
                set sizelist 8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36
        }


 .hc

 On May 26, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Yes, I installed the Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3-planetccrma9-i386.tar.bz2
 package for Fedora available at
 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 Hector

 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 Which package is that?  Did you try this release?

 .hc

 On May 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora
 Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the
 object boxes.

 Regards,

 Hector


 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 I think this is basically ready to go


 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything
 about
 Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you
 haven't
 already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there aren't
 any
 outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I think
 this
 is
 the release.

 Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

 http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

 This release candidate includes:
 * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
 * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor,
 and
 sigpack
 * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are
 some
 really flaky audio cards in Windows land
 * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I
 have
 tested in the past 7 years works with that

 KNOWN BUGS

 Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if
 you
 find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your
 information
 there.

 - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup
 preferences

 - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

 - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to
 load
 it



 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!