Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-16 Thread Thomas Mayer
Hi,

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on it,
 report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker! 
 You can see some info about the included changes here:
 
 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
 
 Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon
 
 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
 
 .hc

The deb for Debian Lenny depends on liblame0 from Debian Multimedia
(lame 3.97), but there is also a package libmp3lame0 (lame 3.98) that
conflicts with liblame0. pd-extended 0.40.3-1 depends on libmp3lame0,
that should be the preferred one.

Keep on the good work,
Thomas
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On May 16, 2009, at 1:55 AM, Thomas Mayer wrote:


Hi,

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on  
it,

report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!
You can see some info about the included changes here:

http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

.hc


The deb for Debian Lenny depends on liblame0 from Debian Multimedia
(lame 3.97), but there is also a package libmp3lame0 (lame 3.98) that
conflicts with liblame0. pd-extended 0.40.3-1 depends on libmp3lame0,
that should be the preferred one.


Thanks for spotting that, I fixed it.

.hc




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[PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-16 Thread Jeff Sandys
This change kind of works for me.  Using: Fedora Core 9/i386: 
Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc1-planetccrma9-i386.tar.bz2 with
Fedora 10 and 2.6.26.8-1.rt16.1.fc10.ccrma.i686.rt kernel.
The install per your instructions ran quickly with no problems.

The default font size 12 is noticeably smaller than font size 12 
in the editor or terminal, more like size 9.
The relation of box size to font size is uneven, size 10, 12  16, 
just fits, but size 8, 24  36 have extra space between the end of 
the text and the box, and size 8 font is impossibly small to read.

Why does the tk program list 10 different sizes when the 
pd font choice box only lists 6 (size 8 10 12 16 24 36)?
What (or where) is the relation between this foreach and 
the pd font selection dialog?

-- Jeff

 OK, I got the font size fixed! If I change the foreach 
 (at line 3944) in pd.tk from:

foreach i {8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36} {

 to:

foreach i {4 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24} {

 The text stays withing the object boxes. Exactly what is 
 happening here I don't know. I have to analyze further 
 to find out what's going on.

 Cheers,
 
 Hector


 On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
 hans at at.or.at wrote:

 I am guessing that you could do some font sizing like is 
 in pd-devel 0.41.  Check out pdtk_pd_startup in 
 pd/src/u_main.tk.  There you can find the font measuring 
 code.  Basically, it is mapping a font to Pd's font size 
 numbers:

foreach i {8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36} {
set font [format {{%s} %d %s} $fontname_from_pd $i
 $fontweight_from_pd]
set pd_fontlist [linsert $pd_fontlist 10 $font]
set width0 [font measure  $font x]
set height0 [lindex [font metrics $font] 5]
set fontlist [concat $fontlist $i [font measure  $font x] \
  [lindex [font metrics $font] 5]]
}


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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-15 Thread Hector Centeno
Thanks to all for your replies,

I found that page about font size and Tcl/Tk 8.5 last night and
started looking for some 8.4 packages for OpenSuse but couldn't find
anything. OpenSuse 11.1 is the same as Fedora 10, they moved to 8.5
and there are no 8.4 packages (I remember Ubuntu being better for
providing older versions). I wonder if we could look into pd's code to
try to fix this with 8.5, any ideas where I could start looking?

Cheers,

Hector


On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 The text sticking out of the boxes is usually caused by Tcl/Tk 8.5:

 http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small

 The pidip error is really just a warning.  I think you can set a font then
 it'll work.  Otherwise, check out the source files for the two text objects,
 you'll see the default location is:

 imlib_add_path_to_font_path(/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType);

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 base64 problem solved. The package tcllib was needed. The only prblems
 left are with pdip not finding the fonts and with the text sticking
 out of the object boxes.

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even
 with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale
 properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error in
 the terminal:

 can't find package base64

 Thanks,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that
 it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had
 to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems
 I'm having are:

 PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP
       version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr )
 error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
       install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)
 error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text
 rendering!
       install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)

 I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I
 have to copy them somewhere else?

 Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside
 the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

 Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short
 review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required
 packages.

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help
 someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you have one
 to
 offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the build
 farm
 are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would be good
 if you
 documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE

 You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian
 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

 As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the
 whole
 thing from svn easily enough:

 svn co

 https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using
 OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does
 anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are
 not enough resources already but is there any chance of including
 OpenSuse in the building farms?

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
 h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on
 it,
 report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!
  You
 can see some info about the included changes here:

 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

 Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 .hc



 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Definitely improve the docs, its a wiki so please edit!

I have seen that on Vista.  I have found that using ASIO4ALL improves  
the situation.  Good luck with the workshop!  You should add it to the  
workshop page:


http://puredata.info/docs/workshops

.hc

On May 15, 2009, at 1:35 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:


I have two openSUSE 11.1 machines and would love to help, but they are
both 64-bit and I have no time to work on this until after my first
Puredata workshop this coming Sunday. I tried a 64-bit openSUSE build
but it broke miserably and the instructions for 64-bit Linux builds
need drastic cleanup. It's definitely something I want to do, assuming
nobody else jumps in, but I need a working Pd-extended machine for
Sunday. So I am going with Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope on an ancient
32-bit laptop.

I also have a 64-bit Windows Vista machine (it's dual-booted with
openSUSE 11.1, actually) but when I loaded pd-extended on it and tried
to run the test sine wave in the Media menu, instead of a steady tone
I got a warbling tone that was unacceptable. If there's a fix for
this, I'll test out the Windows version and possibly use it for the
Sunday workshop.

P.S.: The workshop is at

http://dorkbotpdx.org/blog/breedx/pure_data_workshop_1_of_3_introduction_to_pd

if you're near Portland, Oregon.

P.P.S.: I'll try the new Windows build tomorrow and see if the warble
goes away. :)

--
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


I am guessing that you could do some font sizing like is in pd-devel  
0.41.  Check out pdtk_pd_startup in pd/src/u_main.tk.  There you can  
find the font measuring code.  Basically, it is mapping a font to Pd's  
font size numbers:


foreach i {8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36} {
set font [format {{%s} %d %s} $fontname_from_pd $i  
$fontweight_from_pd]

set pd_fontlist [linsert $pd_fontlist 10 $font]
set width0 [font measure  $font x]
set height0 [lindex [font metrics $font] 5]
set fontlist [concat $fontlist $i [font measure  $font x] \
  [lindex [font metrics $font] 5]]
}


.hc

On May 15, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Hector Centeno wrote:


Thanks to all for your replies,

I found that page about font size and Tcl/Tk 8.5 last night and
started looking for some 8.4 packages for OpenSuse but couldn't find
anything. OpenSuse 11.1 is the same as Fedora 10, they moved to 8.5
and there are no 8.4 packages (I remember Ubuntu being better for
providing older versions). I wonder if we could look into pd's code to
try to fix this with 8.5, any ideas where I could start looking?

Cheers,

Hector


On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


The text sticking out of the boxes is usually caused by Tcl/Tk 8.5:

http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small

The pidip error is really just a warning.  I think you can set a  
font then
it'll work.  Otherwise, check out the source files for the two text  
objects,

you'll see the default location is:

imlib_add_path_to_font_path(/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/ 
dirs/TrueType);


.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

base64 problem solved. The package tcllib was needed. The only  
prblems

left are with pdip not finding the fonts and with the text sticking
out of the object boxes.

Cheers,

Hector


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Hector Centeno  
hcen...@gmail.com wrote:


OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but  
even

with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale
properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this  
error in

the terminal:

can't find package base64

Thanks,

Hector


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com
wrote:


OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it  
seems that
it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I  
only had
to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the  
problems

I'm having are:

PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP
  version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr )
error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text  
rendering!
  install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/ 
)

error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text
rendering!
  install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/ 
)


I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I
have to copy them somewhere else?

Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered  
inside

the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a  
short

review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required
packages.

Cheers,

Hector


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 


wrote:


I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy  
to help
someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you  
have one

to
offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the  
build

farm
are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would  
be good

if you
documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform? 
page=SUSE


You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get  
the

whole
thing from svn easily enough:

svn co

https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41

.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:


Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using
OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way,  
does
anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably  
there are
not enough resources already but is there any chance of  
including

OpenSuse in the building farms?

Cheers,

Hector


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
h...@at.or.at
wrote:


Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please  
hammer on

it,
report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug  
tracker!

 You
can see some info about the included changes here:

http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon


Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-15 Thread Hector Centeno
OK, I got the font size fixed! If I change the foreach (at line 3944)
in pd.tk from:

foreach i {8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36} {

to:

foreach i {4 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24} {

The text stays withing the object boxes. Exactly what is happening
here I don't know. I have to analyze further to find out what's going
on.

Cheers,

Hector


On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I am guessing that you could do some font sizing like is in pd-devel 0.41.
  Check out pdtk_pd_startup in pd/src/u_main.tk.  There you can find the font
 measuring code.  Basically, it is mapping a font to Pd's font size numbers:

    foreach i {8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36} {
        set font [format {{%s} %d %s} $fontname_from_pd $i
 $fontweight_from_pd]
        set pd_fontlist [linsert $pd_fontlist 10 $font]
        set width0 [font measure  $font x]
        set height0 [lindex [font metrics $font] 5]
        set fontlist [concat $fontlist $i [font measure  $font x] \
                          [lindex [font metrics $font] 5]]
    }


 .hc

 On May 15, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Thanks to all for your replies,

 I found that page about font size and Tcl/Tk 8.5 last night and
 started looking for some 8.4 packages for OpenSuse but couldn't find
 anything. OpenSuse 11.1 is the same as Fedora 10, they moved to 8.5
 and there are no 8.4 packages (I remember Ubuntu being better for
 providing older versions). I wonder if we could look into pd's code to
 try to fix this with 8.5, any ideas where I could start looking?

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 The text sticking out of the boxes is usually caused by Tcl/Tk 8.5:


 http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small

 The pidip error is really just a warning.  I think you can set a font
 then
 it'll work.  Otherwise, check out the source files for the two text
 objects,
 you'll see the default location is:


 imlib_add_path_to_font_path(/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType);

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 base64 problem solved. The package tcllib was needed. The only prblems
 left are with pdip not finding the fonts and with the text sticking
 out of the object boxes.

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even
 with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale
 properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error in
 the terminal:

 can't find package base64

 Thanks,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that
 it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had
 to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems
 I'm having are:

 PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP
      version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr )
 error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text
 rendering!
      install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)
 error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text
 rendering!
      install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)

 I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I
 have to copy them somewhere else?

 Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside
 the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

 Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short
 review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required
 packages.

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
 h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to
 help
 someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you have
 one
 to
 offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the build
 farm
 are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would be good
 if you
 documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE

 You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian
 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

 As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the
 whole
 thing from svn easily enough:

 svn co


 https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using
 OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does
 anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are
 not enough resources already but is there any chance of including
 

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Hey,

Let's keep these on list please.  That's an odd one, I use that all  
the time on Mac OS X and Ubuntu.  Which platform are you on?


.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 10:38 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:

The toggle shortcut key is still broken, on my machine, it will put  
a canvas on the page instead of a toggle.


~Brandon

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
h...@at.or.at wrote:


Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on  
it, report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug  
tracker!  You can see some info about the included changes here:


http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

.hc



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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread brandon zeeb
Mac OS X 10.5 i386.  Has anyone else been seeing this?


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Hey,

 Let's keep these on list please.  That's an odd one, I use that all the
 time on Mac OS X and Ubuntu.  Which platform are you on?

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 10:38 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:

 The toggle shortcut key is still broken, on my machine, it will put a
 canvas on the page instead of a toggle.

 ~Brandon

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on it,
 report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!  You
 can see some info about the included changes here:

 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

 Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 .hc


 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Phil Stone

Mac OS X 10.4 i386.  Cannot reproduce.


Phil


brandon zeeb wrote:

Mac OS X 10.5 i386.  Has anyone else been seeing this?


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
h...@at.or.at mailto:h...@at.or.at wrote:



Hey,

Let's keep these on list please.  That's an odd one, I use that
all the time on Mac OS X and Ubuntu.  Which platform are you on?

.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 10:38 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:


The toggle shortcut key is still broken, on my machine, it will
put a canvas on the page instead of a toggle.

~Brandon

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
h...@at.or.at mailto:h...@at.or.at wrote:


Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please
hammer on it, report any little bug or annoyance you might
find to the bug tracker!  You can see some info about the
included changes here:

http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


I am on the same platform.  I've never

.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 10:56 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:


Mac OS X 10.5 i386.  Has anyone else been seeing this?


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


Hey,

Let's keep these on list please.  That's an odd one, I use that all  
the time on Mac OS X and Ubuntu.  Which platform are you on?


.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 10:38 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:

The toggle shortcut key is still broken, on my machine, it will put  
a canvas on the page instead of a toggle.


~Brandon

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on  
it, report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug  
tracker!  You can see some info about the included changes here:


http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread brandon zeeb
Ok.  Well, are the shortcut keys stored in a preference file?  Could a
previous installation of Pd be effecting my 0.41.4rc1 install?  I've cleared
my prefs directory...
~Brandon


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 I am on the same platform.  I've never

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 10:56 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:

 Mac OS X 10.5 i386.  Has anyone else been seeing this?


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Hey,

 Let's keep these on list please.  That's an odd one, I use that all the
 time on Mac OS X and Ubuntu.  Which platform are you on?

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 10:38 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:

 The toggle shortcut key is still broken, on my machine, it will put a
 canvas on the page instead of a toggle.

 ~Brandon

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on it,
 report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!  You
 can see some info about the included changes here:

 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

 Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 .hc


 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread brandon zeeb
In fact, both Shift-Cmd-T and Shift-Cmd-C create a canvas.  I re-cleared my
preferences directory and tried again, I can reproduce this every time.

~brandon

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:44 AM, brandon zeeb zeeb.bran...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ok.  Well, are the shortcut keys stored in a preference file?  Could a
 previous installation of Pd be effecting my 0.41.4rc1 install?  I've cleared
 my prefs directory...
 ~Brandon



 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 I am on the same platform.  I've never

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 10:56 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:

 Mac OS X 10.5 i386.  Has anyone else been seeing this?


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
 h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Hey,

 Let's keep these on list please.  That's an odd one, I use that all the
 time on Mac OS X and Ubuntu.  Which platform are you on?

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 10:38 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:

 The toggle shortcut key is still broken, on my machine, it will put a
 canvas on the page instead of a toggle.

 ~Brandon

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
 h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on it,
 report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!  You
 can see some info about the included changes here:

 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

 Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 .hc


 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


That's a very odd bug.  I can't reproduce it.  If you want, post a bug  
report to the tracker.  Please include as much detail as possible.


.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 11:48 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:

In fact, both Shift-Cmd-T and Shift-Cmd-C create a canvas.  I re- 
cleared my preferences directory and tried again, I can reproduce  
this every time.


~brandon

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:44 AM, brandon zeeb  
zeeb.bran...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok.  Well, are the shortcut keys stored in a preference file?  Could  
a previous installation of Pd be effecting my 0.41.4rc1 install?   
I've cleared my prefs directory...

~Brandon



On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


I am on the same platform.  I've never

.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 10:56 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:


Mac OS X 10.5 i386.  Has anyone else been seeing this?


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


Hey,

Let's keep these on list please.  That's an odd one, I use that all  
the time on Mac OS X and Ubuntu.  Which platform are you on?


.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 10:38 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:

The toggle shortcut key is still broken, on my machine, it will  
put a canvas on the page instead of a toggle.


~Brandon

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer  
on it, report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the  
bug tracker!  You can see some info about the included changes here:


http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread brandon zeeb
Will do.  Are there any other relevant bits of information I can provide
(system information, dumps, logs, etc) with the ticket to help track down
this issue?

~b

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 That's a very odd bug.  I can't reproduce it.  If you want, post a bug
 report to the tracker.  Please include as much detail as possible.

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 11:48 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:

 In fact, both Shift-Cmd-T and Shift-Cmd-C create a canvas.  I re-cleared my
 preferences directory and tried again, I can reproduce this every time.

 ~brandon

 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:44 AM, brandon zeeb zeeb.bran...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ok.  Well, are the shortcut keys stored in a preference file?  Could a
 previous installation of Pd be effecting my 0.41.4rc1 install?  I've cleared
 my prefs directory...
 ~Brandon



 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
 h...@at.or.atwrote:


 I am on the same platform.  I've never

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 10:56 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:

 Mac OS X 10.5 i386.  Has anyone else been seeing this?


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
 h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Hey,

 Let's keep these on list please.  That's an odd one, I use that all the
 time on Mac OS X and Ubuntu.  Which platform are you on?

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 10:38 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:

 The toggle shortcut key is still broken, on my machine, it will put a
 canvas on the page instead of a toggle.

 ~Brandon

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
 h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on it,
 report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!  You
 can see some info about the included changes here:

 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

 Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 .hc


 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Its always good to provide the full OS version and full Pd version.   
Ideally, there are also a short series of steps to reproduce the  
problem.  That's the tricky part here.


Speaking of, anyone here good at web development stuff?  I think it  
shouldn't be hard to have the Help-Browser-report bug  include lots  
of info automatically.  I can handle the Tcl side, I just don't know  
the web side at all.  Maybe Tcl would open a local page that has a bit  
of javascript which would then open the sourceforge bug report and  
fill in the form.  I did a test of that a while back, you can use  
javascript to fill in the forms on the sourceforge page.


.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 12:02 PM, brandon zeeb wrote:

Will do.  Are there any other relevant bits of information I can  
provide (system information, dumps, logs, etc) with the ticket to  
help track down this issue?


~b

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


That's a very odd bug.  I can't reproduce it.  If you want, post a  
bug report to the tracker.  Please include as much detail as possible.


.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 11:48 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:

In fact, both Shift-Cmd-T and Shift-Cmd-C create a canvas.  I re- 
cleared my preferences directory and tried again, I can reproduce  
this every time.


~brandon

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:44 AM, brandon zeeb zeeb.bran...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
Ok.  Well, are the shortcut keys stored in a preference file?   
Could a previous installation of Pd be effecting my 0.41.4rc1  
install?  I've cleared my prefs directory...

~Brandon



On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


I am on the same platform.  I've never

.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 10:56 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:


Mac OS X 10.5 i386.  Has anyone else been seeing this?


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


Hey,

Let's keep these on list please.  That's an odd one, I use that  
all the time on Mac OS X and Ubuntu.  Which platform are you on?


.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 10:38 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:

The toggle shortcut key is still broken, on my machine, it will  
put a canvas on the page instead of a toggle.


~Brandon

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer  
on it, report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the  
bug tracker!  You can see some info about the included changes  
here:


http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

.hc



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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Hector Centeno
Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using
OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does
anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are
not enough resources already but is there any chance of including
OpenSuse in the building farms?

Cheers,

Hector


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on it,
 report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!  You
 can see some info about the included changes here:

 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

 Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help  
someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you have  
one to offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the  
build farm are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it  
would be good if you documented the build process on the wiki so  
others can follow it:


http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE

You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the  
whole thing from svn easily enough:


svn co 
https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41

.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:


Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using
OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does
anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are
not enough resources already but is there any chance of including
OpenSuse in the building farms?

Cheers,

Hector


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
h...@at.or.at wrote:


Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on  
it,
report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug  
tracker!  You

can see some info about the included changes here:

http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Hector Centeno
OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that
it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had
to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems
I'm having are:

PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP
version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr )
error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)
error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)

I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I
have to copy them somewhere else?

Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside
the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short
review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required
packages.

Cheers,

Hector


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help
 someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you have one to
 offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the build farm
 are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would be good if you
 documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE

 You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian
 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

 As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the whole
 thing from svn easily enough:

 svn co
 https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using
 OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does
 anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are
 not enough resources already but is there any chance of including
 OpenSuse in the building farms?

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on it,
 report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!
  You
 can see some info about the included changes here:

 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

 Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 .hc


 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Hector Centeno
OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even
with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale
properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error in
the terminal:

can't find package base64

Thanks,

Hector


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that
 it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had
 to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems
 I'm having are:

 PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP
        version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr )
 error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
        install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)
 error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
        install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)

 I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I
 have to copy them somewhere else?

 Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside
 the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

 Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short
 review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required
 packages.

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help
 someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you have one to
 offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the build farm
 are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would be good if you
 documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE

 You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian
 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

 As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the whole
 thing from svn easily enough:

 svn co
 https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using
 OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does
 anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are
 not enough resources already but is there any chance of including
 OpenSuse in the building farms?

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on it,
 report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!
  You
 can see some info about the included changes here:

 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

 Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 .hc


 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Hector Centeno
base64 problem solved. The package tcllib was needed. The only prblems
left are with pdip not finding the fonts and with the text sticking
out of the object boxes.

Cheers,

Hector


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even
 with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale
 properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error in
 the terminal:

 can't find package base64

 Thanks,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that
 it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had
 to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems
 I'm having are:

 PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP
        version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr )
 error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
        install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)
 error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
        install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)

 I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I
 have to copy them somewhere else?

 Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside
 the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

 Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short
 review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required
 packages.

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:

 I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help
 someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you have one to
 offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the build farm
 are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would be good if you
 documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE

 You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian
 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

 As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the whole
 thing from svn easily enough:

 svn co
 https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using
 OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does
 anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are
 not enough resources already but is there any chance of including
 OpenSuse in the building farms?

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on it,
 report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!
  You
 can see some info about the included changes here:

 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

 Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 .hc


 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


The text sticking out of the boxes is usually caused by Tcl/Tk 8.5:

http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small

The pidip error is really just a warning.  I think you can set a font  
then it'll work.  Otherwise, check out the source files for the two  
text objects, you'll see the default location is:


imlib_add_path_to_font_path(/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/ 
TrueType);


.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:


base64 problem solved. The package tcllib was needed. The only prblems
left are with pdip not finding the fonts and with the text sticking
out of the object boxes.

Cheers,

Hector


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com  
wrote:

OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even
with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale
properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error  
in

the terminal:

can't find package base64

Thanks,

Hector


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com  
wrote:
OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems  
that
it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only  
had

to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems
I'm having are:

PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP
   version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr )
error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text  
rendering!
   install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/ 
)
error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text  
rendering!
   install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/ 
)


I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I
have to copy them somewhere else?

Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside
the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a  
short

review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required
packages.

Cheers,

Hector


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to  
help
someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you  
have one to
offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the  
build farm
are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would be  
good if you

documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE

You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get  
the whole

thing from svn easily enough:

svn co
https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41

.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:


Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using
OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does
anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there  
are

not enough resources already but is there any chance of including
OpenSuse in the building farms?

Cheers,

Hector


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 


wrote:


Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please  
hammer on it,
report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug  
tracker!

 You
can see some info about the included changes here:

http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

.hc




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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Matt Barber
I was about to write about the same font problems for the release
candidate on fedoras 9 and 10 -- it finds bitstream vera just fine,
but the fonts stick out of the boxes in the same way.  If this is
because of Tcl/Tk 8.5, that's not going to be an easy one to fix,
since Fedora's moved ahead with 8.5 -- maybe it's possible to install
an 8.4 compat version.  Either way, the current fedora/ccrma nightly
builds are against 8.5.


PS
In Pd-extended on fedora 8 the bitstream vera font is not found (I
posted on this several months ago)... F8 doesn't have tcl/tk 8.5 so
newer binaries don't work.  At any rate, I haven't found a solution to
this one... maybe I'll try adding a symbolic link in the path listed
in the source file.


 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:01:32 -0400
 From: Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 Cc: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at
 Message-ID:
        695e1a650905141801k403cb7d1x40cf866d22e48...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that
 it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had
 to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems
 I'm having are:

 PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP
        version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr )
 error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
        install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)
 error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
        install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)

 I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I
 have to copy them somewhere else?

 Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside
 the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

 Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short
 review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required
 packages.


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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
I have two openSUSE 11.1 machines and would love to help, but they are
both 64-bit and I have no time to work on this until after my first
Puredata workshop this coming Sunday. I tried a 64-bit openSUSE build
but it broke miserably and the instructions for 64-bit Linux builds
need drastic cleanup. It's definitely something I want to do, assuming
nobody else jumps in, but I need a working Pd-extended machine for
Sunday. So I am going with Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope on an ancient
32-bit laptop.

I also have a 64-bit Windows Vista machine (it's dual-booted with
openSUSE 11.1, actually) but when I loaded pd-extended on it and tried
to run the test sine wave in the Media menu, instead of a steady tone
I got a warbling tone that was unacceptable. If there's a fix for
this, I'll test out the Windows version and possibly use it for the
Sunday workshop.

P.S.: The workshop is at

http://dorkbotpdx.org/blog/breedx/pure_data_workshop_1_of_3_introduction_to_pd

if you're near Portland, Oregon.

P.P.S.: I'll try the new Windows build tomorrow and see if the warble
goes away. :)

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[PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on  
it, report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug  
tracker!  You can see some info about the included changes here:


http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

.hc



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