Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
in the style of a song from 'abogado babies' : computers? i like to crash them, yeh yeh... just realize i care more about lyrics than music now, after 10 years of Mego-like stuff... i still have my Crass original prints. ydego...@gmail.com wrote: b.o. knows about it, at least about sampling to me, a type of music dies when it's getting an endless self.referencing repetition of itself sounding like a caricature.. and computer music came to that point. Greg Pond wrote: don't know if any of you have read Ostertag's Why Computer Music Sucks but here is the link http://bobostertag.com/writings-articles-computer-music-sucks.htm (this link does not necessarily represent the views or opinions of the sender) best, Greg On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Mathieu Bouchardma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Derek Holzer wrote: It's been clear for quite some time that we need more natural predators in the boring techno ecosystem. Maybe, but last time it happened, it only resulted in the proliferation of a more resistant strain of boring techno, so, watch out! _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
don't know if any of you have read Ostertag's Why Computer Music Sucks but here is the link http://bobostertag.com/writings-articles-computer-music-sucks.htm (this link does not necessarily represent the views or opinions of the sender) best, Greg On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Mathieu Bouchardma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Derek Holzer wrote: It's been clear for quite some time that we need more natural predators in the boring techno ecosystem. Maybe, but last time it happened, it only resulted in the proliferation of a more resistant strain of boring techno, so, watch out! _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
b.o. knows about it, at least about sampling to me, a type of music dies when it's getting an endless self.referencing repetition of itself sounding like a caricature.. and computer music came to that point. Greg Pond wrote: don't know if any of you have read Ostertag's Why Computer Music Sucks but here is the link http://bobostertag.com/writings-articles-computer-music-sucks.htm (this link does not necessarily represent the views or opinions of the sender) best, Greg On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Mathieu Bouchardma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Derek Holzer wrote: It's been clear for quite some time that we need more natural predators in the boring techno ecosystem. Maybe, but last time it happened, it only resulted in the proliferation of a more resistant strain of boring techno, so, watch out! _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
--- On Thu, 9/3/09, Greg Pond gregp...@gmail.com wrote: From: Greg Pond gregp...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC To: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 5:59 AM don't know if any of you have read Ostertag's Why Computer Music Sucks but here is the link http://bobostertag.com/writings-articles-computer-music-sucks.htm (this link does not necessarily represent the views or opinions of the sender) best, Greg Thanks for the link. I remember reading this a few years ago, being puzzled why Bob decided to take part as a judge and pick winners in a process that so clearly contributes to the boringness of computer music that he decries. -Jonathan On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Mathieu Bouchardma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Derek Holzer wrote: It's been clear for quite some time that we need more natural predators in the boring techno ecosystem. Maybe, but last time it happened, it only resulted in the proliferation of a more resistant strain of boring techno, so, watch out! _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live-coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Does anyone know how to watch the video on Linux? I do have Flash 10, and I can watch Youtube, Vimeo, etc. just fine. But this video when I click Play just endlessly tries to load something and never shows any video ... Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
Hmm, strange, all was ok yesterday on Ubuntu 9.04 and today, i have the same problem, impossible to watch the video ! ++ Jack Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 10:24 +0200, Frank Barknecht a écrit : Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live-coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Does anyone know how to watch the video on Linux? I do have Flash 10, and I can watch Youtube, Vimeo, etc. just fine. But this video when I click Play just endlessly tries to load something and never shows any video ... Ciao ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:24:46 +0200 From: Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org Subject: Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 20090901082446.gc19...@footils.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live-coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Does anyone know how to watch the video on Linux? I do have Flash 10, and I can watch Youtube, Vimeo, etc. just fine. But this video when I click Play just endlessly tries to load something and never shows any video ... Ciao -- Frank same here. everything works except this video player. -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer - Roma, IT LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
hmm.. i have no such problem here, but like many media providers i have noticed that sometimes bbc places an ip filter to discriminate content (the national australian broadcaster - abc, does the same). these ip filters are never particularly reliable so it wouldn't surprise me if you go between being on block lists. just a guess, dmotd Jack wrote: Hmm, strange, all was ok yesterday on Ubuntu 9.04 and today, i have the same problem, impossible to watch the video ! ++ Jack Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 10:24 +0200, Frank Barknecht a écrit : Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live-coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Does anyone know how to watch the video on Linux? I do have Flash 10, and I can watch Youtube, Vimeo, etc. just fine. But this video when I click Play just endlessly tries to load something and never shows any video ... Ciao ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
On Sep 1, 2009, at 4:24 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live- coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Does anyone know how to watch the video on Linux? I do have Flash 10, and I can watch Youtube, Vimeo, etc. just fine. But this video when I click Play just endlessly tries to load something and never shows any video ... Script, flash, and ad blockers sometimes mess with poorly implemented embedded video players. This seems like one of them. .hc ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
i had the same problem but could watch it after i turned off 'hardware acceleration' under display settings. left/ctrl click to access these. (player version 10, mac osx.5.8, intel, firefox 3) _f 1 sep 2009 kl. 14.27 skrev dmotd: hmm.. i have no such problem here, but like many media providers i have noticed that sometimes bbc places an ip filter to discriminate content (the national australian broadcaster - abc, does the same). these ip filters are never particularly reliable so it wouldn't surprise me if you go between being on block lists. just a guess, dmotd Jack wrote: Hmm, strange, all was ok yesterday on Ubuntu 9.04 and today, i have the same problem, impossible to watch the video ! ++ Jack Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 10:24 +0200, Frank Barknecht a écrit : Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live-coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Does anyone know how to watch the video on Linux? I do have Flash 10, and I can watch Youtube, Vimeo, etc. just fine. But this video when I click Play just endlessly tries to load something and never shows any video ... Ciao #| fredrikolofsson.com klippav.org musicalfieldsforever.com |# ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
Hi *, This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live-coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Enjoy! Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Hi *, This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live- coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Oh man : Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, he says, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. Nice. Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Daniel Wilcox wrote: On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Hi *, This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live- coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Oh man : Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, he says, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. Nice. Indeed. I think I might have to add that to my sig quotes. Chris, mind if I do? .hc Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
Daniel Wilcox wrote: On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Hi *, This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live- coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Oh man : Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, he says, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. Nice. that's superb, it could be the makings of a manifesto! obfuscated techno competition anyone? cheers chris ;) dmotd ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Daniel Wilcox wrote: Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, he says, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. Sounds like the bottom-up counterpart to some slogan I coined a long time ago: Readymade Solutions Require Readymade Problems; For Everything Else There Is PureData. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:43:36AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Daniel Wilcox wrote: On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Hi *, This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live- coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Oh man : Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, he says, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. Nice. Indeed. I think I might have to add that to my sig quotes. Chris, mind if I do? Of course not, I'm flattered! Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Daniel Wilcox wrote: Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, he says, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. Sounds like the bottom-up counterpart to some slogan I coined a long time ago: Readymade Solutions Require Readymade Problems; For Everything Else There Is PureData. Max and Pd allow almost anyone to synthesize uninteresting timbres almost instantly. Max Mathews in http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/latest/book-html/node5.html Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Derek Holzer wrote: It's been clear for quite some time that we need more natural predators in the boring techno ecosystem. Maybe, but last time it happened, it only resulted in the proliferation of a more resistant strain of boring techno, so, watch out! _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
On Aug 31, 2009, at 5:18 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Derek Holzer wrote: It's been clear for quite some time that we need more natural predators in the boring techno ecosystem. Maybe, but last time it happened, it only resulted in the proliferation of a more resistant strain of boring techno, so, watch out! Well, if its fun to watch, then it isn't boring, no? :-D .hc All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
