Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-05 Thread Simon Wise

On 04/02/13 23:37, Simon Wise wrote:

On 04/02/13 14:09, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:





can set a boundary range within the slider. sort of like being able to
select a range of a particular sample graphically. heres the max picture
reference link:


look at [pd edit] inside one of the helps for sliders .. [vslider-help] will do
... you can set the range of ordinary pd sliders via a message


But the point is probably to get visual feedback for a range between two
values, bounded within a min and max value. For that to work the indicator
tick must be expandable while staying within the gui border. (Well, it does
sometimes expand to 4 pixels wide right in the middle but that's a bug.)


sure, the tick is not adjustable and if you want some visual feedback [cnv] will
do the job ... here's another example, a bit more elaborate and all vanilla ...
its mid summer here, way too hot for anything serious!


here is another iteration, the end points and zoom adjustable plus some state 
saving ... just using sliders and canvases.


open rangeslider.pd, it uses vrangeslider.pd

Simon


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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-04 Thread Esteban Viveros
2013/2/4 michael noble loop...@gmail.com


 On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Esteban Viveros emvive...@gmail.comwrote:

 Have pd-extended .43.4 a equivalent to max/msp rslider object?


 Something like these?

 http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-4678-range-sliders


  Yes something like this... But I would like to have a native solution..
If it's exist.. But I like a lot of this solution.. It's a shame that
object don't work well in pd-l2ork too... pdl2ork is to well to design gui
patches..


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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-04 Thread Esteban Viveros
2013/2/4 Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com

 
  From: Scott R. Looney scottrloo...@gmail.com
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 8:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] Range Slider Object
 
 
 well i'm pretty sure as a Max user i think he means an object in which
 you can set a boundary range within the slider. sort of like being able to
 select a range of a particular sample graphically. heres the max picture
 reference link:
 
 
 http://cycling74.com/docs/max5/refpages/max-ref/images/rslider.png
 

 Interesting.  I took a quick stab at it.  (Attached.)


 Of course this falls short because the slider fails
 to obey the limits of the gui rectangle.  Of course
 if you don't need the visual feedback it's much
 easier.


:D  Your slider demo are very interesting!! It doesn't be I'm thinking yet,
but I like a lot... Manly because I like to see how this things works... I
think more in set the range with one mouse click.


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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-04 Thread Charles Goyard
Esteban Viveros wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Have pd-extended .43.4 a equivalent to max/msp rslider object?

No, but I use vrslider/hrslider from mmb. You can get them here :

https://github.com/dotmmb/mmb


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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-04 Thread Esteban Viveros
2013/2/4 colet.patrice colet.patr...@free.fr

 Hello, I dont know what is it in max but looks like something you can find
 in mapping objets library...

 May I ask if you switched from max to pd, and then why you did it?


I'm looking for like Michael Noble say:

 http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-4678-range-sliders


And I'm learning pd because two things (perhaps). I have pd classes in
university, and I think is well have knowledge about this because pd are
very flexible. At this point you can think, but max are very flexible too,
and it more polished which pd, and I think, yes, but pd is open source, and
open source is beautifull! hehehehehe

I think a lot in music education, and stuff like pdlib for android let me
think all kind of possibilities of educational stuff can be done with this
tools, for this things open source is beatifull. All mode how it is created
is beatifull too, the will to create, this make art, and learn all this is
education. ;)

Cheers


2013/2/4 Charles Goyard c...@fsck.fr

 Esteban Viveros wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Have pd-extended .43.4 a equivalent to max/msp rslider object?

 No, but I use vrslider/hrslider from mmb. You can get them here :

 https://github.com/dotmmb/mmb


 Cheers,
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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-04 Thread martin brinkmann
On 02/04/2013 12:49 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Have pd-extended .43.4 a equivalent to max/msp rslider object?

you can rather easily build something similar in vanilla
using datastructures. a quick (maybe a little clumsy)
example is attached. it is not exactly the same
(extend-mode only), but you can use it to set a range.
there are a few other drawbacks though:

-you have to deal with individual names for the templates etc. (or make
an abstraction and build your own state-saving)

-accessing the data is not as easy as with a built-in gui element.

bis denn!
martin
#N struct rangetp float x float y float l float r;
#N canvas 618 521 450 300 10;
#N canvas 111 213 797 539 rslider 1;
#X scalar rangetp 28 25 5 153 \;;
#N canvas 323 673 449 300 rangetp 1;
#X obj 8 3 struct rangetp float x float y float l float r;
#X obj 11 34 filledpolygon 111 444 1 l 0 r 0 r 20 l 20 l 0;
#X restore 89 393 pd rangetp;
#X obj 217 337 pointer;
#X obj 87 366 append rangetp x y l r;
#X msg 218 311 traverse pd-rslider \, bang;
#X obj 97 314 unpack f f f f;
#X msg 97 290 20 20 20 256;
#X obj 451 311 metro 20;
#X obj 451 368 pointer;
#X msg 451 346 traverse pd-rslider \, next;
#X floatatom 496 452 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X floatatom 552 445 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X obj 452 291 loadbang;
#X obj 168 256 t b b;
#X obj 168 234 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144
-1 -1;
#X obj 498 423 change;
#X obj 550 422 change;
#X obj 451 393 get rangetp x y l r;
#X text 185 18 - why are (sometimes?) only the top corners dragable!?
;
#X text 449 262 get the values \, maybe there is a more elegant way
using some kind of click-event whatever...;
#X text 164 205 create the range slider (needed only once \, or after
deleting the slider);
#X connect 2 0 3 4;
#X connect 4 0 2 0;
#X connect 5 0 3 0;
#X connect 5 1 3 1;
#X connect 5 2 3 2;
#X connect 5 3 3 3;
#X connect 6 0 5 0;
#X connect 7 0 9 0;
#X connect 8 0 17 0;
#X connect 9 0 8 0;
#X connect 12 0 7 0;
#X connect 13 0 6 0;
#X connect 13 1 4 0;
#X connect 14 0 13 0;
#X connect 15 0 10 0;
#X connect 16 0 11 0;
#X connect 17 2 15 0;
#X connect 17 3 16 0;
#X restore 48 52 pd rslider;
#X text 37 31 horizontal rangeslider using datastructures inside;
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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-04 Thread Simon Wise

On 04/02/13 14:09, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:





  can set a boundary range within the slider. sort of like being able to
  select a range of a particular sample graphically. heres the max picture
  reference link:


look at [pd edit] inside one of the helps for sliders .. [vslider-help] will do
... you can set the range of ordinary pd sliders via a message


But the point is probably to get visual feedback for a range between two
values, bounded within a min and max value.  For that to work the indicator
tick must be expandable while staying within the gui border.  (Well, it does
sometimes expand to 4 pixels wide right in the middle but that's a bug.)


sure, the tick is not adjustable and if you want some visual feedback [cnv] will 
do the job ... here's another example, a bit more elaborate and all vanilla ... 
its mid summer here, way too hot for anything serious!



Simon


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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-04 Thread Esteban Viveros
Hahahahaha... Yeah.. Here too.. To hot!!!


2013/2/4 Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com

 On 04/02/13 14:09, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:



can set a boundary range within the slider. sort of like being able to
   select a range of a particular sample graphically. heres the max
 picture
   reference link:


 look at [pd edit] inside one of the helps for sliders .. [vslider-help]
 will do
 ... you can set the range of ordinary pd sliders via a message


 But the point is probably to get visual feedback for a range between two
 values, bounded within a min and max value.  For that to work the
 indicator
 tick must be expandable while staying within the gui border.  (Well, it
 does
 sometimes expand to 4 pixels wide right in the middle but that's a bug.)


 sure, the tick is not adjustable and if you want some visual feedback
 [cnv] will do the job ... here's another example, a bit more elaborate and
 all vanilla ... its mid summer here, way too hot for anything serious!


 Simon

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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-04 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Have you solved it with the range x y message? That's all you need, so it
seems.

Nice to see all the options here anyway, I had done something similar for
my sampler patch, now I'll also include this idea.

cheers

2013/2/3 Esteban Viveros emvive...@gmail.com

 Sorry...

  About 4:25 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtYO_KB8J94 we
 have a rslider...

  I'm looking for a object gui like slider wich set a lowest and highest
 ranges to some activity to be defined afterward..

  For example... I would like to set the lowest and the highest possible
 frequency in a random system.


 2013/2/3 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


 You'll have to explain what rslider does since most people here don't use
 Max

 .hc

 On 02/03/2013 06:49 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Have pd-extended .43.4 a equivalent to max/msp rslider object?
 
  Thanks!
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Here's a prototype using data structures.  It has springs
instead of hard proportions, but it obeys the limits of the slider,
which gets closer to an rslider.  I think there's a hack to get it
to obey hard proportions.  Also, I'm just working with one
scalar so I'm not sure if I've got class-wide state in the patch
(as opposed to per-scalar state by storing it as fields in the
struct).

Of course this is one of those Pd-style prototypes where it
becomes increasingly difficult to do anything beyond the
prototype.  Try to encapsulate it in an abstraction and you
deal with gop resizing issues and state-saving issues.
For that matter, try making it resizable and you give up
the hard boundaries since quanta values don't accept
variables.

-Jonathan
#N struct rslider float x float y float min float max float slider
;
#N canvas 55 40 450 300 10;
#N canvas 214 83 606 534 rslider 0;
#X obj 126 53 struct rslider float x float y float min float max float
slider;
#X obj 126 423 filledpolygon 900 0 1 min(0:1)(0:100) 0 min(0:1)(5:105)
5 min(0:1)(5:105) 0 slider(0:1)(10:110) 0 slider(0:1)(10:110) 5 slider(0:1)(20:120)
5 slider(0:1)(20:120) 0 max(0:1)(25:125) 0 max(0:1)(25:125) 5 max(0:1)(30:130)
0 max(0:1)(25:125) -5 max(0:1)(25:125) 0 slider(0:1)(20:120) 0 slider(0:1)(20:120)
-5 slider(0:1)(10:110) -5 slider(0:1)(10:110) 0 min(0:1)(5:105) 0 min(0:1)(5:105)
-5;
#X obj 126 95 route change;
#X obj 126 219 -;
#X obj 126 165 change;
#X obj 126 188 t a a;
#X obj 181 288 +;
#X obj 126 288 +;
#X obj 126 328 set rslider min max;
#X obj 126 117 trigger anything anything;
#X obj 126 241 t a a;
#X obj 126 143 get rslider slider min max;
#X obj 127 389 drawpolygon 0 1 -1 -7 132 -7 132 7 -1 7 -1 -7;
#X connect 0 0 2 0;
#X connect 2 0 9 0;
#X connect 3 0 10 0;
#X connect 4 0 5 0;
#X connect 5 0 3 1;
#X connect 5 1 3 0;
#X connect 6 0 8 1;
#X connect 7 0 8 0;
#X connect 9 0 11 0;
#X connect 9 1 8 2;
#X connect 10 0 7 0;
#X connect 10 1 6 0;
#X connect 11 0 4 0;
#X connect 11 1 7 1;
#X connect 11 2 6 1;
#X restore 245 105 pd rslider;
#X obj 257 199 s foo;
#X obj 257 221 namecanvas foo;
#X scalar rslider 62 105 0.38 0.77 0.56 \;;
#X msg 257 177 scalar rslider2 20 20;
#X connect 4 0 1 0;
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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Aw, sloppy.  Try the attached one instead.

-Jonathan




- Original Message -
 From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 To: Esteban Viveros emvive...@gmail.com; Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 2:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [PD] Range Slider Object
 
 Here's a prototype using data structures.  It has springs
 instead of hard proportions, but it obeys the limits of the slider,
 which gets closer to an rslider.  I think there's a hack to get it
 to obey hard proportions.  Also, I'm just working with one
 scalar so I'm not sure if I've got class-wide state in the patch
 (as opposed to per-scalar state by storing it as fields in the
 struct).
 
 Of course this is one of those Pd-style prototypes where it
 becomes increasingly difficult to do anything beyond the
 prototype.  Try to encapsulate it in an abstraction and you
 deal with gop resizing issues and state-saving issues.
 For that matter, try making it resizable and you give up
 the hard boundaries since quanta values don't accept
 variables.
 
 -Jonathan
 
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 #N struct rslider float x float y float min float max float slider
;
#N canvas 55 40 450 300 10;
#N canvas 388 69 606 534 rslider 0;
#X obj 126 53 struct rslider float x float y float min float max float
slider;
#X obj 126 423 filledpolygon 900 0 1 min(0:1)(0:100) 0 min(0:1)(5:105)
5 min(0:1)(5:105) 0 slider(0:1)(10:110) 0 slider(0:1)(10:110) 5 slider(0:1)(20:120)
5 slider(0:1)(20:120) 0 max(0:1)(25:125) 0 max(0:1)(25:125) 5 max(0:1)(30:130)
0 max(0:1)(25:125) -5 max(0:1)(25:125) 0 slider(0:1)(20:120) 0 slider(0:1)(20:120)
-5 slider(0:1)(10:110) -5 slider(0:1)(10:110) 0 min(0:1)(5:105) 0 min(0:1)(5:105)
-5;
#X obj 126 95 route change;
#X obj 126 165 change;
#X obj 126 188 t a a;
#X obj 126 328 set rslider min max;
#X obj 126 117 trigger anything anything;
#X obj 126 241 t a a;
#X obj 126 143 get rslider slider min max;
#X obj 127 389 drawpolygon 0 1 -1 -7 132 -7 132 7 -1 7 -1 -7;
#X obj 126 288 + 0.35;
#X obj 181 288 + 0.61;
#X obj 126 219 - 0.48;
#X connect 0 0 2 0;
#X connect 2 0 6 0;
#X connect 3 0 4 0;
#X connect 4 0 12 1;
#X connect 4 1 12 0;
#X connect 6 0 8 0;
#X connect 6 1 5 2;
#X connect 7 0 10 0;
#X connect 7 1 11 0;
#X connect 8 0 3 0;
#X connect 8 1 10 1;
#X connect 8 2 11 1;
#X connect 10 0 5 0;
#X connect 11 0 5 1;
#X connect 12 0 7 0;
#X restore 245 105 pd rslider;
#X obj 257 199 s foo;
#X obj 257 221 namecanvas foo;
#X scalar rslider 62 105 0.35 0.61 0.48 \;;
#X msg 257 177 scalar rslider2 20 20;
#X connect 4 0 1 0;
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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

You'll have to explain what rslider does since most people here don't use Max

.hc

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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-03 Thread Esteban Viveros
Sorry...

 About 4:25 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtYO_KB8J94 we
have a rslider...

 I'm looking for a object gui like slider wich set a lowest and highest
ranges to some activity to be defined afterward..

 For example... I would like to set the lowest and the highest possible
frequency in a random system.


2013/2/3 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


 You'll have to explain what rslider does since most people here don't use
 Max

 .hc

 On 02/03/2013 06:49 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Have pd-extended .43.4 a equivalent to max/msp rslider object?
 
  Thanks!
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-03 Thread Scott R. Looney
well i'm pretty sure as a Max user i think he means an object in which you
can set a boundary range within the slider. sort of like being able to
select a range of a particular sample graphically. heres the max picture
reference link:

http://cycling74.com/docs/max5/refpages/max-ref/images/rslider.png

scott


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 You'll have to explain what rslider does since most people here don't use
 Max

 .hc

 On 02/03/2013 06:49 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
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  Have pd-extended .43.4 a equivalent to max/msp rslider object?
 
  Thanks!
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-03 Thread Simon Wise

On 04/02/13 09:11, Scott R. Looney wrote:

well i'm pretty sure as a Max user i think he means an object in which you
can set a boundary range within the slider. sort of like being able to
select a range of a particular sample graphically. heres the max picture
reference link:


look at [pd edit] inside one of the helps for sliders .. [vslider-help] will do 
... you can set the range of ordinary pd sliders via a message


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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes

 From: Scott R. Looney scottrloo...@gmail.com
To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at 
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] Range Slider Object
 

well i'm pretty sure as a Max user i think he means an object in which you can 
set a boundary range within the slider. sort of like being able to select a 
range of a particular sample graphically. heres the max picture reference link:


http://cycling74.com/docs/max5/refpages/max-ref/images/rslider.png


Interesting.  I took a quick stab at it.  (Attached.)


Of course this falls short because the slider fails
to obey the limits of the gui rectangle.  Of course
if you don't need the visual feedback it's much
easier.


-Jonathan




scott



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You'll have to explain what rslider does since most people here don't use Max

.hc


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#N canvas -9 19 450 544 10;
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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes




- Original Message -
 From: Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com
 To: pd-list@iem.at
 Cc: 
 Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 12:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [PD] Range Slider Object
 
 On 04/02/13 09:11, Scott R. Looney wrote:
  well i'm pretty sure as a Max user i think he means an object in which 
 you
  can set a boundary range within the slider. sort of like being able to
  select a range of a particular sample graphically. heres the max picture
  reference link:
 
 look at [pd edit] inside one of the helps for sliders .. [vslider-help] will 
 do 
 ... you can set the range of ordinary pd sliders via a message

But the point is probably to get visual feedback for a range between two
values, bounded within a min and max value.  For that to work the indicator
tick must be expandable while staying within the gui border.  (Well, it does
sometimes expand to 4 pixels wide right in the middle but that's a bug.)

-Jonathan

 
 Simon
 
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