Re: [PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data

2008-06-29 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff

Hi Rich


How is your project going ??

I cant wait to beta-test, what do you think ??

When is it ready to be released or pre-leleased..

Best Luigi

Am 29.04.2008 um 17:10 schrieb Rich E:

I re-tarred and re-uploaded trax.tar.gz, can you try it again?  
Sorry about that..


regards,
rich

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Andy Farnell  
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 On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:32:18 -0700

 Rich E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  thanks for all the comments.  I'd love to hear if people are  
getting

   it to work, having problems, making cool sounds, etc.

  Rich, I had a problem unpacking the source file .tar.gz on Linux.
  I was going to grab from CVS when I'm not so busy, but just to
  let you know.

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Re: [PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data

2008-06-29 Thread Rich E
Hi Luigi,

The SMS library is coming around okay.. and I have a prototyped pd external
that synthesizes an sms file in pd, but it doesn't do much else.  I'm still
straightening a few things in the core processing code before I write the
real ones.

I am expecting to post the first set of externals at the end of summer, and
I'll most definitely let this list know when that happens.

By the way, the synthesis is sounding excellent on simple sounds (such as a
horn).. sure beats the phase vocoder approach.  But analysing more complex
sounds (such as a piano note) are going to be tricky at first in real-time.
But I'm sure this will smooth out once the correct parameters are found.

cheers,
Rich

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Luigi Rensinghoff 
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 Hi Rich

 How is your project going ??

 I cant wait to beta-test, what do you think ??

 When is it ready to be released or pre-leleased..

 Best Luigi

 Am 29.04.2008 um 17:10 schrieb Rich E:

 I re-tarred and re-uploaded 
 trax.tar.gzhttp://www.teafordragons.com/rte/software/trax.tar.gz,
 can you try it again? Sorry about that..

 regards,
 rich

 On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Andy Farnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:32:18 -0700
 
  Rich E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
   thanks for all the comments.  I'd love to hear if people are getting
it to work, having problems, making cool sounds, etc.
 
   Rich, I had a problem unpacking the source file .tar.gz on Linux.
   I was going to grab from CVS when I'm not so busy, but just to
   let you know.
 
   a.
 
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Re: [PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data

2008-05-14 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 11:32 -0700, Rich E wrote:

 Wait until I get libsms up and running in real-time... tons of doors,
 all leading to different places.  There's lots of things I wanted to
 do with Trax, but it just isn't feasible using pd's control structure
 and the data structs alone, it seems much better to do the low-level
 stuff it in C and use pd as a controller.  I don't like having to
 graph everything using Tk either, so that part will probably be moved
 to opengl somehow.  All in due time.
 

I can't wait!

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Re: [PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data

2008-04-29 Thread Rich E
I re-tarred and re-uploaded
trax.tar.gzhttp://www.teafordragons.com/rte/software/trax.tar.gz,
can you try it again? Sorry about that..

regards,
rich

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Andy Farnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:32:18 -0700

 Rich E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  thanks for all the comments.  I'd love to hear if people are getting
   it to work, having problems, making cool sounds, etc.

  Rich, I had a problem unpacking the source file .tar.gz on Linux.
  I was going to grab from CVS when I'm not so busy, but just to
  let you know.

  a.

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Re: [PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data

2008-04-28 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff

Wow...

that opens really some doors to new sounds. Thanks very much.

I dont have a wacom unfortunately, but ia m playing around with a  
WiiRemote quite a bit.


Rich, do you have any plans for that ?

Any idea for a good mapping scheme ??




Am 25.04.2008 um 05:34 schrieb Rich E:


www.teafordragons.com/rte/trax.html

This is a patch I've been working on for quite some time now, finally
packaged with some documentation and an example qlist with it.  Trax
is a fancy additive synthesizer that stores partials in data
structures and re-synthesizes them using [oscbank~].  It gets the
sinusoidal models from SDIF files with 1TRC frames, which have to be
imported with [sdiflists].  I'd like to know how well it works for
others, it makes great sounds on my Ubuntu laptop, although I had much
worse results on a Macbook.

You can get the externals from cvs or:
www.teafordragons.com/rte/software.html

I personall control Trax with a Wacom Intuos3, so there are mappings
programmed for it that get wacom data using [linuxevent].  *note: I
chose not to use [hid] because it is possible to call the wacom with
[linuxevent /dev/input/wacom], which is always symbolically linked to
the correct /dev/input/event*.  I couldn't ever get [hid] to do find
the wacom on its own, without specifying exactly which event number it
is on.

You can also listen to a couple pieces I wrote using Trax, which also
use other fun Pd stuff and recorded in Ardour:
www.teafordragons.com/rte/music.html

Now, on to SMS, Spectral Model Synthesis, that is..

cheers,
rich

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Re: [PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data

2008-04-28 Thread Rich E
I think a wiimote would work great, but you would have to make sure to
interpolate the time-advancement (I do this for the wacom because it
is usb, although it is not as crucial).  The current frame being
synthesized by Trax is given by a timetag, which are about 10ms apart
at the original speed (although it can be faster or slower).   For
that matter, interpolating all the wii- parameters would probably make
things sound better.  As far as mappings, I have never used the wii,
so I don't know.  But you probably have to defined a fixed point for
the beginning and end of file, as well as interpolation.

 that opens really some doors to new sounds. Thanks very much.

Wait until I get libsms up and running in real-time... tons of doors,
all leading to different places.  There's lots of things I wanted to
do with Trax, but it just isn't feasible using pd's control structure
and the data structs alone, it seems much better to do the low-level
stuff it in C and use pd as a controller.  I don't like having to
graph everything using Tk either, so that part will probably be moved
to opengl somehow.  All in due time.

thanks for all the comments.  I'd love to hear if people are getting
it to work, having problems, making cool sounds, etc.

cheers,
rich

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Re: [PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data

2008-04-28 Thread Andy Farnell
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:32:18 -0700
Rich E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 thanks for all the comments.  I'd love to hear if people are getting
 it to work, having problems, making cool sounds, etc.

Rich, I had a problem unpacking the source file .tar.gz on Linux.
I was going to grab from CVS when I'm not so busy, but just to
let you know.

a.

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Re: [PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data

2008-04-27 Thread Andy Farnell


Great stuff Rich!! Amazingly powerful music and sound fx making
potential with sdif files. Thanks for sharing these sounds
and patches.

a.



On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:34:37 -0700
Rich E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 www.teafordragons.com/rte/trax.html
 
 This is a patch I've been working on for quite some time now, finally
 packaged with some documentation and an example qlist with it.  Trax
 is a fancy additive synthesizer that stores partials in data
 structures and re-synthesizes them using [oscbank~].  It gets the
 sinusoidal models from SDIF files with 1TRC frames, which have to be
 imported with [sdiflists].  I'd like to know how well it works for
 others, it makes great sounds on my Ubuntu laptop, although I had much
 worse results on a Macbook.
 
 You can get the externals from cvs or:
 www.teafordragons.com/rte/software.html
 
 I personall control Trax with a Wacom Intuos3, so there are mappings
 programmed for it that get wacom data using [linuxevent].  *note: I
 chose not to use [hid] because it is possible to call the wacom with
 [linuxevent /dev/input/wacom], which is always symbolically linked to
 the correct /dev/input/event*.  I couldn't ever get [hid] to do find
 the wacom on its own, without specifying exactly which event number it
 is on.
 
 You can also listen to a couple pieces I wrote using Trax, which also
 use other fun Pd stuff and recorded in Ardour:
 www.teafordragons.com/rte/music.html
 
 Now, on to SMS, Spectral Model Synthesis, that is..
 
 cheers,
 rich
 
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Re: [PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data

2008-04-25 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Rich E hat gesagt: // Rich E wrote:

 www.teafordragons.com/rte/trax.html
 
 This is a patch I've been working on for quite some time now, finally
 packaged with some documentation and an example qlist with it.  Trax
 is a fancy additive synthesizer that stores partials in data
 structures and re-synthesizes them using [oscbank~]. 

Damn, how cool is that!! 

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Re: [PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data

2008-04-25 Thread Jamie Bullock


On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 20:34 -0700, Rich E wrote:
 www.teafordragons.com/rte/trax.html
 
 This is a patch I've been working on for quite some time now, finally
 packaged with some documentation and an example qlist with it.  Trax
 is a fancy additive synthesizer that stores partials in data
 structures and re-synthesizes them using [oscbank~].  It gets the
 sinusoidal models from SDIF files with 1TRC frames, which have to be
 imported with [sdiflists].  I'd like to know how well it works for
 others, it makes great sounds on my Ubuntu laptop, although I had much
 worse results on a Macbook.

Fantastic stuff! Thanks for sharing, i'll definitely use this.

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Re: [PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data

2008-04-25 Thread hard off
be good to see your externals added to pd extended.
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Re: [PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data

2008-04-25 Thread Roman Haefeli

 You can also listen to a couple pieces I wrote using Trax, which also
 use other fun Pd stuff and recorded in Ardour:
 www.teafordragons.com/rte/music.html
 

holy ghost! this sounds great!!

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[PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data

2008-04-24 Thread Rich E
www.teafordragons.com/rte/trax.html

This is a patch I've been working on for quite some time now, finally
packaged with some documentation and an example qlist with it.  Trax
is a fancy additive synthesizer that stores partials in data
structures and re-synthesizes them using [oscbank~].  It gets the
sinusoidal models from SDIF files with 1TRC frames, which have to be
imported with [sdiflists].  I'd like to know how well it works for
others, it makes great sounds on my Ubuntu laptop, although I had much
worse results on a Macbook.

You can get the externals from cvs or:
www.teafordragons.com/rte/software.html

I personall control Trax with a Wacom Intuos3, so there are mappings
programmed for it that get wacom data using [linuxevent].  *note: I
chose not to use [hid] because it is possible to call the wacom with
[linuxevent /dev/input/wacom], which is always symbolically linked to
the correct /dev/input/event*.  I couldn't ever get [hid] to do find
the wacom on its own, without specifying exactly which event number it
is on.

You can also listen to a couple pieces I wrote using Trax, which also
use other fun Pd stuff and recorded in Ardour:
www.teafordragons.com/rte/music.html

Now, on to SMS, Spectral Model Synthesis, that is..

cheers,
rich

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Re: [PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data

2008-04-24 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
This looks really incredible Rich.  I can't wait to try it out.
The music is great too : )
Cheers
Luke

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Rich E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 www.teafordragons.com/rte/trax.html

  This is a patch I've been working on for quite some time now, finally
  packaged with some documentation and an example qlist with it.  Trax
  is a fancy additive synthesizer that stores partials in data
  structures and re-synthesizes them using [oscbank~].  It gets the
  sinusoidal models from SDIF files with 1TRC frames, which have to be
  imported with [sdiflists].  I'd like to know how well it works for
  others, it makes great sounds on my Ubuntu laptop, although I had much
  worse results on a Macbook.

  You can get the externals from cvs or:
  www.teafordragons.com/rte/software.html

  I personall control Trax with a Wacom Intuos3, so there are mappings
  programmed for it that get wacom data using [linuxevent].  *note: I
  chose not to use [hid] because it is possible to call the wacom with
  [linuxevent /dev/input/wacom], which is always symbolically linked to
  the correct /dev/input/event*.  I couldn't ever get [hid] to do find
  the wacom on its own, without specifying exactly which event number it
  is on.

  You can also listen to a couple pieces I wrote using Trax, which also
  use other fun Pd stuff and recorded in Ardour:
  www.teafordragons.com/rte/music.html

  Now, on to SMS, Spectral Model Synthesis, that is..

  cheers,
  rich

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