Re: [PD] ZenGarden license x Pure Data license

2010-04-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-04-19 03:49, Jarbas Jacome wrote:
 Hello all.
 Nice project.
 I have a question:
 As ZenGarden is LGPL, doesn't it allow someone to do a proprietary and
 closed software using it?
 If yes, doesn't it conflicts with Pure Data license?

why would it?
max/MSP did not conflict either

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Re: [PD] ZenGarden license x Pure Data license

2010-04-19 Thread Alexandre Porres
Wow

seems like something REALLY important here, huh!?!



2010/4/18 Jarbas Jacome jand...@gmail.com

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 Hello all.
 Nice project.
 I have a question:
 As ZenGarden is LGPL, doesn't it allow someone to do a proprietary and
 closed software using it?
 If yes, doesn't it conflicts with Pure Data license?
 thank you very much.
 jjR

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Re: [PD] ZenGarden license x Pure Data license

2010-04-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010, Alexandre Porres wrote:


Wow
seems like something REALLY important here, huh!?!


Hello all. Nice project. I have a question: As ZenGarden is LGPL, 
doesn't it allow someone to do a proprietary and closed software using 
it? If yes, doesn't it conflicts with Pure Data license? thank you very 
much.


GPL and LGPL licenses don't conflict with SIBSD.

SIBSD is the version of the BSD license that Pd uses and that most people 
mean when they say « BSD license » nowadays.


It resulted from the idea of Richard Stallman to get everybody on the BSD 
license to drop the Advertisement Clause, which was not only conflicting 
with the GPL, but also with customised versions of the BSD license...


It's a long story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_license

http://www.fsf.org/licensing/compliance/index_html/contact/education/essays/index_html/bsd.html

IanaL.

PS: Apparently, « Standard Improved BSD » is an expression that is only 
used in the Pd world. I thought I had originally read that name from the 
FSF site, but apparently, I didn't. Apparently, there is no standard name 
for that license, but that name is the one that Miller used in 
LICENSE.txt.


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[PD] ZenGarden license x Pure Data license

2010-04-18 Thread Jarbas Jacome
Hello all.
Nice project.
I have a question:
As ZenGarden is LGPL, doesn't it allow someone to do a proprietary and
closed software using it?
If yes, doesn't it conflicts with Pure Data license?
thank you very much.
jjR

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Re: [PD] ZenGarden license x Pure Data license

2010-04-18 Thread Ricardo Lameiro
from Miller's Source package license.txt

This software is copyrighted by Miller Puckette and others.  The following
terms (the Standard Improved BSD License) apply to all files associated
with
the software unless explicitly disclaimed in individual files:

Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are
met:

1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
   notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above
   copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following
   disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided
   with the distribution.
3. The name of the author may not be used to endorse or promote
   products derived from this software without specific prior
   written permission.

In my viewing, you are just restricted to use the copyright, so yest they
can, provided they add the copyright if they distribute it,
the license doesn't tell you to keep the same license when distributing
it... well its what i think, but i am not a lawyer...

2010/4/19 Jarbas Jacome jand...@gmail.com

 Hello all.
 Nice project.
 I have a question:
 As ZenGarden is LGPL, doesn't it allow someone to do a proprietary and
 closed software using it?
 If yes, doesn't it conflicts with Pure Data license?
 thank you very much.
 jjR

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